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09/08/1986H 12-8.1062 GRAND TERRACE PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING SEPTEMBER 8, 1986 The regular meeting of the Grand Terrace Planning Commission was called to order at the Grand Terrace Civic Center, 22795 Barton Road, Grand Terrace, CA 92324 on September 8, 1986 at 7:05 p.m. by Chairman Caouette. PRESENT: Norman T. Caouette, Chairman Jerry Hawkinson, Vice -Chairman Gerald Cole, Commissioner Ray Munson, Commissioner Fran Van Gelder, Commissioner Stanley Hargrave, Commissioner Daniel McHugh, Commissioner Joseph Kicak, Planning Director Ivan Hopkins, City Attorney Lynn Halligan, Planning Secretary PLEDGE OF ALLEGIENCE: Led by Commissioner Fran Van Gelder I. MINUTES A. Minutes of September 8, 1986, Planning Commission Meeting Minutes. PCM 86-82 Motion by Vice -Chairman Hawkinson and seconded by Commissioner Hargrave and passed by a 6-1-0 vote, to approve the minutes as submitted. Chairman Caouette abstained from the vote. II. Consideration for Time Extension and reconsideration of Conditional Use Permit 84-8, for E-Z Serve convenience store located at 22087 Barton Road. Chairman Caouette asked for staff presentation: Joseph Kicak, Planning Director, stated that it was not a matter of request for consideration of time extension. That when the staff report was prepared the staff felt it might be something that the Planning Commission could consider. However, the City Attorney advised staff that this Conditional Use Permit has expired and therefore has to go through the process again. Staff has scheduled a public hearing for this matter for the Planning Commission Meeting of September 15, 1986. Mr. Kicak also stated that he had included for the Planning Commission's information, the staff report and the minutes of the September, 1984 Planning Commission meeting. Chairman Caouette asked if there were any questions of staff. Commissioner Hargrave asked staff if the 88' right-of-way easement required, had been settled. Joseph Kicak, Planning Director, responded that that will be one of the Conditions of Approval. Stated that the applicant, Mr. Nabih Akar, had been in touch with E-Z Serve, the owner, and they advised staff that they will obtain the necessary right-of-way and provide the City with the additional 11 ft. on the west side of Michigan that provided for installation of improvements. Chairman Caouette asked if there were any questions or comments. Asked if the applicant would like to address the Commission. Mr. Nabih Akar, 22087 Barton Road, Grand Terrace. Stated that they would like to put in a convenience store. However, the City had asked for dedication. Stated that he did not own the land and that the owner does not want to dedicate. So, he bought the number of feet from the owner to dedicate to the City. Also, Mr. Akar stated that he is going to share in the expenses, for widening Michigan Street at the corner, with the City. Chairman Caouette thanked the applicant. Clarified with Staff that there was no further action needed at this time. Joseph Kicak, Planning Director, agreed and stated that this was information only and for the Planning Commission to review the history in the form of the minutes and staff report provided. Vice -Chairman Hawkinson asked what the nature of the off -site improvements that were proposed. Joseph Kicak, Planning Director, responded that the off -site improvements involved the dedication. It requires widening of the roadway from the present curb location to line up with the curb, which is just to the south along the frontage of the current skating rink on Michigan Stret on the west side. Also, it requires the relocation of the traffic signal and it's controller. At the time this item came before the City Council, they, the City Council, felt that the City and the applicant should both share the costs of these improvements. The formula has been established for that sharing of the costs. Vice -Chairman Hawkinson asked Staff if an additional right turn lane was being considered on that corner. P.C. Meeting Minutes 9-8-86 Page 2 Joseph Kicak, Planning Director, responded there will be widening, it will provide for a turning movement in the center lane. III. NEW BUSINESS A. Determination of Use for a proposed ITT Technical Trade School, located at 22080 Commerce Way. Chairman Caouette asked for Staff Report. Joseph Kicak, Planning Director, presented Staff Report. He pointed out the enclosed brochure, as provided by Victor Construction, for a proposal to take the existing skating rink located on the northwest corner of Michigan and Commerce Way and convert it into an ITT Technical Trade School. Stated that the staff has reviewed the Zoning Code, specifically, the C-2 CPD section. Stated that there is nothing in that Code that would either allow or prohibit this specific use. Therefore, there are two items for the Planning Commission to consider. One, is to consider the Determination of Use for this project at the location as shown. Second, if the Planning Commission determines that use is allowable within C-2 CPD Zone, to conduct a public hearing on the Conditional Use Permit f for this project. Chairman Caouette reminded the Commission that they were only dealing with determination of that type of use within a C-2 CPD Zone. Discussion took place between Commissioner Hargrave and Joseph Kicak, Planning Director, regarding Title 18 review of the C-2 CPD Zone and their recommendations. Mr. Kicak stated that they did not specifically address this type of use. Commissioner Hargrave asked Staff if they approve the use in C-2 CPD Zone, do they try and get a coordination of building standards and specifications for that particular area. Joseph Kicak, Planning Director, pointed out that there has been a proposal presented, in conjunction with this proposal, to convert the skating rink into a school, which proposes a commercial development along the frontage of Commerce Way. But, that there was no formal submittal of it. Stated that the only thing that the Planning Commission is requested to do, at this time, is to determine if it is a practicle use. Mr. Kicak stated the applicant was in the P.C. Meeting Minutes 9-8-86 Page 3 audience and might give the Planning Commission a better idea of timing for the balance of the development. Further discussion took place between Commissioner Hargrave and Joseph Kicak, regarding the C-2 CPD area. Commissioner Hargrave felt that they should have some idea of how the rest of the development is going to flow within the whole area, to keep in mind continuity of the CPD for the area, with respect to this key property. Mr. Kicak responded that the only thing they have is the proposal by the applicant and it has not yet been considered. The potential commercial development that may be proposed by the Applicant was not formally submitted with exception of this plan. Commissioner Hargrave asked if, because of some action that the Planning Commission takes or does not take on this specific parcel, and then later because of CPD requirements, it would cause the applicant hardships in their future development. Joseph Kicak, Planning Director, stated that as far as Staff is concerned, the only thing that they could recommend to the Planning Commission is what is required by the Code. It would be the responsibility of the Staff to present the proposal and up to the Planning Commission to consider; and if the applicant felt Planning Commission determination wasn't proper, then appeal process to the City Council. Chairman Caouette asked if there were any other questions of staff. Commissioner Van Gelder asked if the Commission or City had any condition of a time line when the rest of the properties would be completely developed. Joseph Kicak, Planning Director, responded that he did not think that the Planning Commission or City had any control over it, because there has been no submittal of anything other than the ITT Technical School with the adjacent parcel to be used as a parking lot. Chairman Caouette pointed out to the Commission that the only thing they should be considering is the development application itself and consider it's own merit. Asked if there were any other questions of Staff. Being none, asked if the applicant was present and would care to address the Commission. Dennis Cordoza, Victor Construction, pointed out that they own and control the 9 acres in that area as shown in the brochure. The reason they want ITT here was because they need a draw to get the rest of the property they own developed. They convinced ITT to go into the skate rink, with heavy landscaping and a good interior design and a new entry to the center and closing off the existing corner of the building. Stated that the skating rink P.C. Meeting Minutes 9- 8- 86 Page 4 parking lot is in need of asphalt repair. The landscaping is at present very minimal. The exterior is still in good condition, but the entry that they need for the school is not close to the standards required by ITT. He pointed out that they have built buildings for ITT before. They are a tenant in Buena Park. Their intent is to put ITT in there and use them as a draw for other facilites to develop the rest of the property. Stated that as far as time schedule, October 1, 1986, is when they would like to start the tenant improvements. They will improve 2/3 of the interior with 10,000 square feet for future expansion. They proposed to have that completed and open by January 1, 1987, if they get approval. He responded to Commissioner Hargrave's comment on what would happen to the rest of the property. Stated that they do have a tremendous financial interest in all of the property and that they have other tenants interested, which include a pizza restaurant and a furniture store. Stated that the restaurant would love to be by the school, and with him they could generate more clients to fill the rest of the center. Commissioner Munson asked the applicant with regard to the ITT School located in Buena Park, what type of location they were located in and have other businesses moved there because of that school. Dennis Cordoza responded that, yes, they have. The school is located by the 91 Freeway, in Buena Park, off of Knott Avenue. Adjacent to it, is McDonalds. The school supports a lot of the t fast foods there. Pointed out that ITT has a lot of experience - in exactly the parking requirements they need, the number of students that they generate and how many teachers and admini- strative staff that is required. They believe this school will be equal to the Buena Park for student enrollment because of the draw from the San Bernardino/Riverside areas. C Commissioner Munson asked the applicant if they are going to tear down the chainlink fencing, are they going to replace it with something else to prevent accidents. Dennis Cordoza responded that yes, they were going to put in a protective railing that would go along there and look generally more decorative than just chainlink fence. Stated that they have no intention of having a fence along Commerce Way, but to have it heavily landscaped. Stated that one of the Planning Department's comments was that they should have a 15' setback for landscaping. But, because of the existing building they can't physically do the 15' landscaping buffer, but propose to take out the concrete walk, around the building, and replace it with heavy landscaping along the building. Discussion took place between the applicant and Commissioner Munson regarding the sidewalk on Michigan that borders the P.C. Meeting Minutes 9-8- 86 Page 5 fence. The applicant, Dennis Cordoza, stated that they want the same landscaping along Michigan, if possible, the same all the way down Commerce Way. Commissioner Munson stated his preference to have landscaping or a green area with trees between the fence and the sidewalk, instead of all the concrete. Chairman Caouette reminded the Commissioners that they were considering the Determination of Use only. Dennis Cordoza summarized that it is critical the use be allowed, because the school is critical to their center. Stated that without the school, they would have a tough time drawing in clients. Chairman Caouette asked if there were any other questions of the applicant. Discussion took place between Commissioner Van Gelder and the applicant, Vic Peloquin, regarding the total number of schools and if each were a separate entity. The applicant responded that each ITT school is owned by the ITT Parent Company. They are not a franchise, and that if one does bad, doesn't mean that it would not be kept. Commissioner Van Gelder asked out of the 26 technical schools, how many were subsidized by some level of government. The applicant stated it was his guess that about 75% of the students have some form of financial arrangement by government grants or loans. Chairman Caouette asked the applicant if, goal to open by January 1, 1987, it would allow them sufficient time to do the inside, as well as outside work. Vic Peloquin, applicant, responded that since there will be no structural changes on the inside of the building, felt that with Building Department approval, it can be done relatively quick. There will be partition walls inside. The A/C unit is existing and only needs reducting and a new t-bar ceiling. The exterior can be done within the 2 month period of time. If they get their approval from the Building Department by October 1, 1986, they felt they could have the school completed by January. Discussion took place between Chairman Caouette and the applicant regarding the conceptual site plan, specifically, the labeling of a sportsclub.' The applicant stated that they had designed the brochure for the Sportsclub, a sports equipment outlet, but were a few days late attracting them to the site. The applicant added that they did have a furniture store that is interested in a 30,000+ sq. ft. store, also a hardware store and pizza place. P.C. Meeting Minutes 9-8-86 Page 6 C1, Chairman Caouette asked if there were any other questions of the applicant. Being none, asked if there was anyone in the audience who wished to address the Commission regarding this item to please step forward and identify themselves. Christie Reed opposed the ITT Building in lieu of the skating rink. Stated that the skating rink is the only recreational facility in Grand Terrace for kids. Felt it was important to have a recreational facility within the City. Dave Terbest, President of the Grand Terrace Chamber of Commerce, was representing the Chamber of Commerce and the Economic Development Committee, stated that the two organizations strongly support this project. He stated that they had met with the applicant and reviewed the plans that were before the Commission tonight. They felt that this development would improve the architecture of the entrance into the City, along with improving the appearance of that specific location. Mr. Terbest, in response to Ms. Reed's statements, agreed that it was important to have a recreational facility, but because of the past burglarizing of the businesses in the area, felt that the skating rink has had an adverse, as well as, positive affect. Chairman Caouette asked if there was anyone else who wished to address the Commission. Being no one, brought back for further discussion among the Commissioners. In response to Commissioner Munson's question regarding fees the school would have to pay the City, City Attorney, Ivan Hopkins stated that there are nominal fees which are imposed simply to pay the costs was all the City could impose pursuant to Constitutional Article 136. Stated that this facility would not generate sales tax. Chairman Caouette asked if there was any other questions with respect to the request for the proposed use within the C-2 CPD Zone. PCM 86-83 Motion by Commissioner Hargrave and seconded by Commissioner McHugh and passed by a 7-0 vote to approve this use within a C-2 CPD Zone and to consider the Conditional Use Permit for ITT Technical Trade school. B. Specific Plan 86-2/Conditional Use Permit 86-4 and Site & Architectural Review 86-7 for Grand Terrace West. Joseph Kicak, Planning Director, stated that this item had been scheduled for a public hearing, and was being continued at the request of the applicant. P.C. Meeting Minutes 9-8-86 Page 7 Discussion between audience, City Attorney, Ivan Hopkins, and Q Joseph Kicak, Planning Director, regarding public notice �] process. It was agreed that a new public hearing notice would be mailed to those properties within a 300 square foot radius when this project is to be considered. C. Conditional Use Permit 86-6 and Site & Architectural Review 86-10 for ITT Technical Trade School. Chairman Caouette asked for Staff presentation. Joseph Kicak, Planning Director, presented staff report. Stated that in reviewing the application, staff found that the applicant is proposing 210 parking spaces consisting of 167 ea. 9' x 19', 21 ea. 7 1/2' x 16', which are compact car spaces, which are not addressed in the City's Code. They are also proposing two (2) handicapped parking spaces, which in accordance with State requirements, are inadequate; this can be covered during the review process prior to issuance of building permit. Chairman Caouette asked if there were any questions of Staff. Asked the Planning Director if there was some mention of the interior landscaping being below minimum requirements. Joseph Kicak, Planning Director, stated that the landscaping as it is proposed right now does not meet the requirements of �f the Zoning Code. Chairman Caouette stated that his understanding in reviewing this project that if the 41 compact spaces are used, there would still be adequate parking meeting the requirements of the Ordinance 100. Mr. Kicak concurred with this statement. Chairman Caouette asked if there were any other questions of Staff. Asked if the applicant or their representatives would care to address the Commission. Dennis Cordoza, applicant, addressed several items. Stated that even without the compact car spacing, they more than adequately met the City's parking requirements, as well as ITT's parking requirements. Addressing the landscaping problem, stated that because of the physical design of the existing site, there is not much they can do other than heavily landscape the areas and cut out areas in the sidewalk, which they plan to do. However, they can't get the 15' landscaping requirement. Stated that in order to compensate for this, will cut out as much as they can away from the building to buffer the building with landscaping. Lighting was also brought out in the staff report, he stated that the final lighting will be decorative type of lighting, not only for the skating rink but all the way down Commerce P.C. Meeting Minutes 9- 8- 86 Page 8 Way the nine (9) acres to DeBerry. He also addressed the sales tax. Stated that they do not generate sales tax from the school, but their presence will generate the ability to draw tenants that will draw sales tax. Ivan Hopkins, City Attorney, indicated that in the comments for the Planning Commission determination, within the staff report, for compact spaces whether they may be applied or whether Ordinance No. 100 should apply, stated that the Planning Commission cannot approve the compact parking. And, if the applicant desires, they can request a variance from Ordinance 100. Ordinance 100 does not allow compact parking spaces within the City. Chairman Caouette asked if there were other questions of the applicant. Being none, opened the public hearing on this item. Asked if there was anyone who wished to address the Commission. James Coffin, CY Development, stated that he was supportive of this project. Stated that they are the owners of the property to the west of the property, which is in Escrow with Victor Construction. They are also the owners of the parcel on the southeast corner of Commerce Way and Michigan Street, which Victor Construction has obtained an option interest. Stated that the students would certainly patronize the facilities here in town, which would then generate sales tax. cli Dave Terbest, 22545 Barton Road, Chamber of Commerce President, reiterated the fact that the Chamber's Economic Development Committee had met and reviewed the overall impact of the area to the City. Stated that there will be significant income indirectly through sales tax, fuel tax and revenues that will come to the City. Stated again, that the Economic Development Committee is recommending to this body and will do so to other bodies of the City, that they support this project. He personally felt that it is a positive project and that the Chamber is recommending approval. Chairman Caouette asked if there was anyone else who wished to address the Commission. Being no one, closed the public hearing and returned the item back to the Commission for discussion. Chairman Caouette asked the applicant if there is a proposal for automotive repair instruction facilities. Vic Peloquin, applicant, stated that the school's primary technical training is computer training, electronics training and secretarial. Stated that several ITT Schools have this component. Stated that there would be no outside instruction for automotive repair, all of it would be done internally. P.C. Meeting Minutes 9-8-86 Page 9 It would be a classroom atmosphere, more or less like an auto shop in a high school. This is not set in concrete, but that is what the extra square footage is left for, if they choose to do that. Commissioner Hargrave asked what the approximate hours would be for the school. Vic Peloquin, applicant, responded that the school will run from 8:00 a.m. until 9:30 p.m. They run 4 hour sessions each, starting at 8:00 a.m. til 12:00 p.m., from 12:00 p.m. to 4:00 p.m. and from 4:00 p.m. until later in the evening. The training goes for 2 years, 5 days a week with a one week break per year. Commissioner Hargrave asked the applicant what was the minimum time that ITT would be leasing the structure from Victor Construction. Vic Peloquin responded that they are leasing the structure in Buena Park for 5 years with a 5 year option. They have asked, for this project, for a 10 year lease, but this has not been solidified. But, a minimum of 5 years will be their requirement with options beyond that. Vic Peloquin went on to address the landscaping. Stated that they have an existing building that they will try to spruce up and landscape heavily. But, they do have some j constraints that the building does not allow that 15' buffer. Stated that they would adhere to those specifications on future developments. But, on this particualr facility they don't have that lattitude. In response to Commissioner Hargrave's question regarding sign permit, Joseph Kicak, Planning Director, stated that the sign permit would be reviewed as a separate item and will be subject to staff level approval. The applicant stated for the record that they were aware of the C-2 CPD requirements for that area. Chairman Caouette asked the applicant what the difference was between their landscape plan and the Zoning code requirements. Vic Peloquin responded that if he understood from the staff report, that an area of the building should have a 15' landscape buffer. But, that the constraints of this building, plus their walkway and the back up distance that needs to be there, they can't get 15'. Dennis Cordoza, applicant, indicated that the property line P.C. Meeting Minutes 9-8-86 Page 10 is next to the fence where it drops down 4', it was suggested that they cut out the concrete along the fence line and put in landscaping. This would be something they could do. Vic Peloquin, applicant, stated that they would have to determine, from staff, what the staff would allow as far as streets and sidewalk width. They would be willing to relocate the trees and/or plant new trees and make the sidewalk along the curb edge. Chairman Caouette questioned the applicant about the adequate space between the parking spaces along by Michigan Street and the internal parking, asked if there was, in fact, not enough space to move. Vic Peloquin responded that that is the minimum requirements that the code allows right now. The 19' of each of these stalls with a 25' back-up turn radius and 19' in there; so, that gives them a constraint as well. Commissioner Munson asked the applicant if they provide for 15' of landscaping westerly of second entrance. Vic Peloquin responded that they might lose a few parking spaces; however, since they have more than adequate parking, this would be done. r Commissioner Cole asked the applicant if they could possibly sacrifice some parking stalls and put in a planted area 10' x 20' in the area in front of the building along Commerce Way, to break up the line of parking and to give a feeling of more landscaping. Vic Peloquin indicated that that was a good suggestion, they would replace some parking stalls and provide finger -like areas for landscaping. Commissioner Cole asked Staff as long as they meet the parking criteria with conventional stalls, would the compact stalls be acceptable. Joseph Kicak, Planning Director, indicated that he would have no problem with that. Ivan Hopkins, City Attorney, stated that the Planning Commission has to require that they meet the requirements and anything above that can be any size parking stalls they desire. Chairman Caouette asked Staff if a suggestion mentioned previously regarding a sidewalk on Michigan Street is possible from the Building Department standpoint. P.C. Meeting Minutes 9- 8- 86 Page 11 Joseph Kicak, Planning Director, clarified that Chairman Caouette meant the landscaping on Michigan. Stated' that he had no problem with that suggestion. Felt that the important thing to keep in mind was if they are going to landscaping adjacent to the property line, then the sidewalk concrete width should be a minimum 6'. If they are going to construct the sidewalk adjacent to the property line, then the City's current standard specifications would require 5' sidewalk. The total width of that parkway is 12' from the curb face to the property line. Chairman Caouette asked if the landscaping were toward the street, would it become a maintenance problem for the City. Joseph Kicak, Planning Director, responded that it would still be the responsibility of the property owner to maintain. Chairman Caouette stated that there was also discussion of a meandering sidewalk which would require significant reconstruction. Asked Staff what the Building Department would require for the permit process. Joseph Kicak responded that if the Planning Commission approved the landscaping plan as it was presented with all of the variations, the Building Department would review it based on that approval. The additional lighting is a suggested condition of approval. Prior to issuance of the building permit, the Building Dept. would review a more detailed lighting, irrigation and landscaping plan. Chairman Caouette asked if the City had a current standard for meandering sidewalks. Joseph Kicak, Planning Director, responded that the City does not have a standard for meandering sidewalks. Stated that the City does have 2 areas where meandering sidewalks have been constructed, specifically, on Barton Road in the area just east of Vivienda, as well as, northside east of Mt. Vernon and southside east of Preston. In response to Commissioner Hargrave's question regarding the trash enclosure, Joseph Kicak stated that there was not one shown on the plans, and is one of requirements listed in the Conditions of Approval. This trash enclosure must meet the requirements of the City's Ordinance. Chairman Caouette asked if there were any other questions of Staff. Commissioner Munson questioned if it would be a consideration to put a start and stop light of some sort at the intersection of Michigan and Commerce Way, due to the additional traffic 1 P.C. Meeting Minutes 9-8-86 Page 12 coming into the ITT school and the school kids walking on Michigan. Joseph Kicak, Planning Director, recognized the volume of pedestrian traffic in that area and the volume of traffic that will be generated by the school, but that he would not recommend that, as a result of this single individual facility, that the traffic signal be constructed at that location. Stated that if Commissioner Munson was talking in terms of a push button type, where the children have the right to some kind of traffic control device, was not sure if that would be any more beneficial than a stop sign. Commissioner Munson restated that his concern was for the kids using a cross walk on the way to school walking north on Michigan and the cars were going south and making a righthand turn onto Commerce Way. Joseph Kicak, Planning Director, stated that he would oppose any proposal to put a stop sign at the northwest corner of Commerce Way to stop the traffic trying to make a right turn movement onto Commerce Way off of Michigan. Commissioner Hargrave pointed out, with Mr. Kicak concurring, that the street is wide enough there so that a car can yield the right-of-way to a pedestrian without impeding traffic going in a southerly direction. Commissioner Hargrave went on to state that if any type of mechanism is put on that # northwest corner, it will jam up the light on Barton Road. He pointed out that the street should be wide enough so that cars can move over to the right coming south to turn onto this facility without much problem. Joseph Kicak, Planning Director, also concurred with this statement. Joseph Kicak, Planning Director, went on to point out that the roadway on the westerly side of Michigan between Barton Road and Commerce Way will be 32' wide, and that would provide for 2 lanes of traffic. Chairman Caouette asked if there were any comments from the audience. Barbara Pfennighausen, 22491 DeBerry Street, stated that due to the fact that most of the children walk down the easterly side of Michigan Street, because it is where the crossing guard is located. Pointed out that few children use the westerly side of Michigan, they take the easterly approach and cross at DeBerry. Felt that should not be a problem at that one intersection. Christie Reed, stated that since there is no stop or yield sign when getting off the freeway at Barton Road coming from P.C. Meeting Minutes 9-8-86 Page 13 Riverside, the City is going to have a lot of traffic backed up there. Suggested a stop sign or stoplight should be put in there. Stated that if the school is at that location that is going to generate a lot of traffic and congestion at the time most people are going and coming from work. Chairman Caouette asked if there were any further comments. Motion was made by Commissioner Munson and seconded by Vice — Chairman Hawkinson to add Condition #10 that landscaping on Michigan be put between the curb and the wall with a 6' sidewalk along the curb. To have the landscaping on Commerce Way from the second entrance onto the property going from a narrow width up to maximum width of 15', on the westerly side. And, up to 3 or 4 finger type landscaped areas in place of parking to break up that area. The following is discussion that took place amongst the Planning Commission regarding this condition. Commissioner McHugh questioned with regard to the gradual 15' length, if it might be more practicle, from a parking standpoint, if that was just a full width from beginning of the entrance on that westerly portion. Commissioner Munson stated that from an aesthetic point, he would like to see the western point be at a maximum of 15' regardless of how they get that width. .� Commissioner Fran Van Gelder objected to the tapering of that particular parcel from narrow to the 15'. She wanted to see it continue as it is indicated with the same amount of space, and then on the next parcel do what is appropriate. Chairman Caouette stated that the Planning Commission might encourage the landscaping feature that was for the entry way. Commissioner Cole thought that particular item should be up to the developer, because he will have to provide the required parking stalls, and if he can do that and leave room for entry maybe that would be something they could do. Chairman Caouette asked the motion maker and seconder if they had any objection to the applicant addressing this item. There was no objection made. Vic Peloquin, applicant, addressed all 3 items in the motion. Felt that the 6' landscape buffer along Michigan would be beneficial to that area. Stated his concern with removing the chainlink fence in that area, due to the 4' drop. Stated that if they were to do something to remove it, they might put wrought iron to meet the code. Or, they might lower the chainlink and put something like green mesh on the chainlink P.C. Meeting Minutes 9-8-86 Page 14 to secure it. Stated that they didn't like the aesthetics of the chainlink, but they didn't want to cause anybody any injury by them being able to pass through there. Having the land- scaping up against there and keeping the sidewalk on Michigan adjacent to curb will help that. Stated that he liked the suggestion of 3 or so finger type projections of landscaping across the property. Suggested 2 in front of the administra- tion building and one in the parking lot adjacent to that. Could not tell what the impact of tapering from the second driveway to 15' would be. Commissioner Hargrave after hearing the discussion, stated that he was in agreement with Commissioner Van Gelder, in keeping the continuity of that second driveway to the west. Felt that it might give enough lineage down Commerce Way so it will not look out of balance when the next parcel is ready to develop. Commission Munson called for the question. PCM 86-84 Motion by Commissioner Munson and seconded by Vice -Chairman Hawkinson and passed by a 4-3 vote, to add Condition #10 to the Conditions of Approval that: 1) Landscaping on Michigan be between the curb and the wall with a 6' sidewalk along the curb. 2) To have the landscaping on Commerce Way, from the second driveway of the + property, go from a narrow width up to a maximum of 15'. 3) Have 3 or 4 finger -type landscaped areas in lieu of parking. Vice -Chairman Hawkinson, Commissioner Van Gelder and Commissioner Hargrave voted against the motion. In response to Commissioner McHugh's question regarding inadequate handicapped parking, Joseph Kicak, Planning Director, stated that the State law preempts any action by the Planning Commission. Chairman Caouette, with no further discussion or questions, entertained a motion for the project. PCM 86-85 Motion by Commissioner Hargrave and seconded by Commissioner Cole and passed by a 7-0 vote to approve Conditional Use Permit 86-6 and Site & Architectural Review 86-10, subject to the Conditions of Approval as specified by staff, and as amended P.C. Meeting Minutes 9- 8- 86 Page 15 by the Planning Commission. Q Chairman Caouette adjourned the Planning Commission Meeting 9:00 p.m., �J to the next regularly scheduled Planning Commission Meeting. Respectully Submitted by: Q)�A' JO TH RIM, Planning Director Approved by: CH RMAN, Planning Commission P.C. Meeting Minutes 01 9-8-86 Page 16