11/16/1987GRAND TERRACE PLANNINGCOMMISS_I.O_N__
M_IN_UTES OF REGULAR MEETING
NOVEMBER 16,--1987 ------
The regular meeting of the Grand Terrace Planning Commission was
called to order at the Grand Terrace Civic Center, 22795 Barton
Road, Grand Terrace, California, on November 16, 1987 at 7:00
p.m. by Chairman, Norman Caouette.
PRESENT: Norman Caouette, Chairman
Fran Van Gelder, Vice -Chairwoman
Jerry Hawkinson, Commissioner
Gerald Cole, Commissioner
Jim Sims, Commissioner
ABSENT: Stanley Hargrave, Commissioner
Ray Munson, Commissioner
Pledge of Allegiance: Fran Van Gelder, Vice -Chairwoman
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WORKSHOP CONVENED AT 6:30 P.M.
Chairman Caouette opened discussion on the
Memorandum regarding the Moratorium, dated
11/16/87.
The Planning Director stated that at the last City
Council Meeting, the City Council enacted a
Moratorium on all residential development which in
essence put stops on all permits and applications
for planning items, until the General Plan is
adopted or until six months is up whichever comes
first. Until the next City Council meeting they
will be accepting only applications that are
replacement type applications for building
permits. We will go back to the Council to inform
them as to what their action has done and make
some recommendation regarding exceptions to them.
These will probably include patios, pools, room
additions on to owner occupied single family
residences.
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The Planning Director stated that the purpose of
the moratorium was to prevent any further
applications and permits to be granted prior to
the completion of the General Plan, that includes
the multi -family issues as well as the development
of single family homes in areas that may be
changed from residential to commercial type
zoning.
Commissioner Hawkinson stated that it seemed to
him that there was some question regarding people
that have an approved plan and have not ,yet pulled
their permits.
The Planning Director explained that staff is
going to go forward with the permits that have
been applied for and accepted by the Planning
Department.
The Planning Director presented the approved
September 8, 1987 minutes with noted corrections.
He also included the July 20, 1987, and the
September 21, 1987 minutes.
Commissioner Sims asked for the status of the
General Plan.
The Planning Director explained that the EIR and
General Plan Review should begin in December and
the public hearings are scheduled for the last few
weeks of January. He explained that the draft
review by the consultant was overdue.
Chairman Caouette asked for any further
discussion.
The Planning Director brought up the minutes and
asked if further discussion was needed.
Chairman Caouette referred to the minutes of July
20, 1987,page 7, motion PCM-87-30. He would like
to recommend that it be changed to simply state,
"Chairman Caouette stated that there seems to be a
misunderstanding on interpretation of conditions
of approval and that the conditions of the
tentative tract map 13205 Specific Plan remain as
approved, including that approved by City Council
on June 26, 1986."
Commissioner Hawkinson referred to the September
21, 1987 meeting, page 9, in the middle paragraph
it indicates that he was suggesting a revision of
garages to carports. He stated that he actually
asked of the feasibility of upgrading Phase I from
carports to garages for architectural continuity
between the two phases.
The Planning Director acknowledged the
corrections.
Commissioner Hawkinson mentioned that he would
have to abstain from voting on the July 20, 1987
minutes due to his absence at that meeting. He
also mentioned that Commissioner Sims was not a
Planning Commissioner at that time either. He
questioned if that would leave enough for a quorum
to pass the minutes.
The Planning Director stated that the July 20,
1987 minutes would have to be continued.
Chairman Caouette asked if there were any
suggested changes to the September 21, 1987
minutes.
Chairman Caouette referred to page 1. He stated
that to read correctly "The workshop adjourned at
7:00 p.m. and the planning commission meeting
convened at 7:00 p.m."
Chairman Caouette also referred to the page 12,
statement (marked by asterisk signifying previous
correction) made by Commissioner Hargrave and
noted that it should read correctly Commissioner
Hawkinson.
Commissioner Hawkinson stated that he thought he
made that statement because his recollection was
that it was 12 units and a bonus of 3.75
designated as senior units.
The Planning Director acknowledged the correction.
Chairman Caouette asked for any further comments
on the September 21, 1987 minutes.
No further discussion.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING CONVENED 7:00 P.M.
Chairman Caouette called the Planning Commission
meeting to order.
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MOTION
PCM-87-78
Chairman Caouette mentioned that there was a
request to have the July 20, 1987 minutes
continued to the next meeting.
Chairman Caouette asked for a motion regarding the
September 21, 1987 minutes.
Commissioner Hawkinson moved that the minutes of
September 21, 1987 be accepted as corrected by the
discussion in the workshop session. Commissioner
Sims seconded the motion.
MOTION CARRIED, ALL AYES. 5-0-0-2.
ITEM #2
TPM-87-9
STEPHEN FOX
S.E. CORNER OF
PICO STREET &
BLUE MOUNTAIN CRT.
The Planning Director presented the project with
the conditions and recommendations by staff and
the reviewing agencies.
Chairman Caouette asked for any discussion by the
Planning Commission.
The Planning Director added one condition. He
explained that on the map a dedication of Blue
Mountain Court right-of-way was indicated and the
City Engineer has removed that condition from his
requested conditions. The Planning Director
stated that staff would like to add another
condition on to the resolution to read, " ...A
corrected tentative map shall be submitted to the
Planning Department eliminating the dedication of
Blue Mountain Court as indicated on the tentative
tract map prior to City Council consideration."
Chairman Caouette opened the Public Hearing.
PUBLIC HEARING CONVENED AT 7:05 P.M.
David Boraquin
CG Engineering
2227 S. Waterman
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San Bernardino, CA.
He mentioned that they reviewed the final
conditions of the latest revision of the parcel
map. They were in agreement with the conditions,
however, he did have a couple of questions. The
first was regarding condition #12 which dealt with
ornamental street lights. He assumed that meant
to the satisfaction of the engineer who wanted a
street light fronting on the property on a
dedicated street.
The Planning Director explained that was the City
Engineer's standard verbage for requiring the
normal standard street lights that have gone in on
all of the other projects in the city.
Mr. Boraquin stated the other question they had
had was regarding the latest change that was made
and that was agreeable with them. He referred to
the condition that a corrected tentative map be
submitted prior to the Council date.
The Planning Director stated that the next Council
date was December 3, 1987.
Chairman Caouette asked for any further discussion
in favor of the project.
STEPHEN FOX
382 E. BONNIEVIEW
RIALTO, CA.
Mr. Fox stated that they made a lot of different
changes on their project. He said that he felt
this project would work out for everybody
concerned.
Chairman Caouette asked for any further discussion
in favor of the project.
Chairman Caouette asked for any discussion against
the project.
No further testimony.
Chairman Caouette closed the Public Hearing.
PUBLIC HEARING ADJOURNED AT 7:10 P.M.
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PLANNING COMMISSION DISCUSSION AT 7:10 P.M.
MOTION
PCM-87-79
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Commissioner Hawkinson stated that this was the
third time that this particular project came
before the Planning Commission during the last
several meetings and each and every time the
object of concern was the number of lots. At the
last meeting when the applicant submitted a three
lot split for this parcel the majority of the
landowners in the area said that if it were down
to 2 lots then they would certainly have no
objection. Based on the fact that
it is now a request for 2 lots seemed to eliminate
all of the objections and problems.
Commissioner Hawkinson moved that TPM-87-9 be
approved as conditioned. Vice -Chairwoman Van
Gelder seconded.
Commissioner Cole praised the applicant for his
compromise on the project.
MOTION CARRIED, ALL AYES. 5-0-0-2.
Chairman Caouette stated that the business on the
agenda was concluded and asked for any further
discussion.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING ADJOURNED AT 7:13 P.M.
Respectfully Submitted,
liavia Sawyer,
Planning Director
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Approved by:
Norman Caouette,
Planning Commission