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03/10/1980PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES CITY OF GRAND TERRACE MARCH 10, 1980 A Regular Meeting of the Planning Commission, City of Grand Terrace, was held in the First Baptist Church of Grand Terrace, 12354 Mt. Vernon, Grand Terrace, California, on March 10, 1980 at 6:35 p.m. PRESENT: Frank Tetley, Chairman Sandy Collins, Vice Chairman Vern Andress, Commissioner Winifred Bartel, Commissioner John McDowell, Commissioner Tom Rivera, Commissioner Lloyd L. Watson, Commissioner Gil Haro, San Bernardino County Planning Staff Brian Esgate, City Engineering Staff Myrna Lindahl Martine Gerg, Secretary ABSENT: William DeBenedet, Commissioner Ron Schuster, Commissioner The meeting was opened with the Pledge of Allegiance, led by Commissioner Andress, and oral roll call. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - FEBRUARY 25, 1980 Corrections were made as follows: Page one, under Location of Tract 11302 as E/s Grand Terrace Road; Page two, Paragraph two, was corrected to show Mr. Payne as speaking; and the number of project units was corrected to show 31 units. PCM-80-19 MOTION was made by Commissioner Collins, seconded by Commissioner Andress and carried unanimously to approve the Minutes of February 25, 1980 as amended. TRACT 11302 (Continued from 2/25/80) Proposal: A) 31 unit condominium on 2.69 acres B) 2 lot subdivision on 2.69 acres Location: E/s Grand Terrace Rd., approximately 459' S/o Vivienda Ave. File/Index: A) LSH/80-0010/E219-119 B) SUB/80-0011/E219-119/TR11302 Applicant: Terrado Grande, Ltd. Representative: Ray A. Bicknell Page one - PC-3/10/80 Staff, Gil Haro, made a presentation, stating the Commission, in their meeting of February 25, had requested the Applicant to submit renderings and elevations showing the site from Grand Terrace Road, and had also requested the City Engineer to attend this meeting to explain the proposed drainage. Engineering Staff, Brian Esgate, made a presentation, stating the conditions of approval propose that the Contractor is to build an inlet structure at his project entrance to conduct the water generally north to the low spot just north of Vivienda, with some outlet to prevent erosion. The water is to travel north underground alongside the road. At the intersection of Grand Terrace Road and Vivienda, the pipe will continue North until there is a sufficient elevation drop to outlet. The Contractor is to construct a culvert under Grand Terrace Road, which will become City property. The pipe will be 15-18 inches, and will be installed at a depth of approximately 10 feet. There is no expected impact on the properties downstream, since the additional drainage is not expected to exceed 1%. Chairman Tetley called upon the Applicant for input to the hearing. SUPPORTING TESTIMONY: Mr. Ray Bicknell, 8951 Chapman Avenue, Garden Grove, stated he had furnished 30 copies of a rendering showing the front elevation and the view from Grand Terrace Road at the meeting of February 25, and felt this should be adequate. He stated a willingness to comply with the Commission's requirements on the 112 foot frontage on Grand Terrace Road, but voiced objection to installing tile roofs and masonry fencing, feeling these items will increase the cost of the units to the extent they would not be affordable to young, first-time homeowners. Mr. Bicknell stated a preference of installing asphalt shingles or rock roofs, and wood or chain link fencing. Chairman Tetley called for opposing testimony, stating comments are to be limited to the four matters being heard at this time, as follows: type of roofing; type of fencing; drainage; and the appearance of the 112 foot frontage on Grand Terrace Road. OPPOSING TESTIMONY: Mr. William Liles, 21840 Grand Terrace Road, stated as long as the drainage goes north, he has no objections to the project. Chairman Tetley closed Public Hearing. In discussion, the Commission discussed roofing cost and types of fencing materials. Page two - PC-3/10/80 PCM-80-20 Following discussion, MOTION was made by Commissioner Andress, seconded by Commissioner Watson and carried unanimously that the fencing on the West side of the property along Grand Terrace Road, approximately 112 feet, is to be of wrought iron and masonry construction. PCM-80-21 MOTION was made by Commissioner Andress, seconded by Commissioner Bartel and carried unanimously that a six-foot high decorative masonry wall shall be installed around the perimeter of the site. PCM-80-22 MOTION was made by Commissioner McDowell, seconded by Commissioner Bartel and carried unanimously to accept the required building elevations and renderings as submitted by Mr. Bicknell. PCM-80-23 MOTION was made by Commissioner Andress, seconded by Commissioner McDowell that, as a condition of this project, all roofs are to be of red tile fashion. In discussion, Mr. Bicknell stated a requirement of tile roofs would require extensive structural changes in the construction of the project, and requested latitude in working with materials available. Engineering Staff, Brian Esgate concurred the tile, due to its weight, could require construction changes. Following discussion, MOTION carried on AYE votes of Commissioners Andress, McDowell, Watson and Chairman Tetley, with NOE votes by Commissioners Bartel, Collins and Rivera. MOTION was made by Commissioner Collins to allow the developer to pick some tile, or other material on the market that resembles tile, such as concrete slabs. MOTION died for lack of a second. PCM-80-24 MOTION was made by Commissioner Collins, seconded by Commissioner Watson and carried unanimously to request the developer to install an improved off -site storm drain along Grand Terrace Road as recommended by Staff. Staff Gil Haro, stated the Applicant has fifteen days in which to appeal any decision of the Planning Commission to the City Council. Mr. Bicknell indicated he plans to appeal to the City Council, and requested a copy of the Minutes, and all the terms and conditions as stated by the Planning Commission, as soon as possible. APPEAL OF MINOR DEVIATION DENIAL - E 228-113 (Continued from 2/11/80) Proposal: Appeal of Minor Deviation Denial requesting construction within road right-of-way. Location: N/s Vista Grande Way, approx. 1400' NE/o Grand Terrace Road. Applicant: Anthony Romero Page Three - PC-3/10/80 This matter was continued to allow the Commissioners an opportunity to physically view the site. Staff, Gil Haro, made a presentation including analysis, findings and recommended denial of the appeal, with the recommendation the garage be located on the west side of the residence. Mr. Haro stated the Applicant had failed to appear each of the four times this application was to have been considered, and the Applicant was duly notified each time. The Applicant, nor any individuals speaking for or against the matter, were present at the meeting. In discussion, concern was expressed regarding erosion under the existing wall, and the bluff in general. Engineering Staff, Brian Esgate, expressed concern regarding the proposed site for the swimming pool within five feet of the bluff, due to the instability of the bluff. PCM-80-25 Following discussion, MOTION was made by Commissioner Collins, seconded by Commissioner Rivera and carried unanimously to deny the Appeal of Minor Deviation - E 228-113. GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT Proposal: Amend the General Plan from "Commercial" to "Residential" 2-4 DU/AC on 3 acres. Location: South side of Minona Drive, extending south approx. 400', between Mt. Vernon Avenue and Arliss Drive. File/Index: GPA/79-0390/E225-120 Applicant: City of Grand Terrace Representative: Seth Armstead, City Manager Staff, Gil Haro, made a presentation including analysis, findings, and listed three alternatives for the Commission to consider as follows: (1) Do not amend thv General Plan from Commercial to Residential 2-4 DU/AC for 3- acres located s/o Minona Drive and n/o the Grand Terrace Independent Market between Mt. Vernon Avenue and Arliss Drive. Comment: This action will maintain the Commercial designation of the General Plan, possibly encouraging the premature conversion of the residential neighborhood to commercial land use. (2) Amend the General Plan from Commercial to Residential 2-4 DU/AC (except for A.P. #276-182-03 - Benmoor Enterprises, Owner) for approx. 2.75 acres located s/o Minona Drive and n/o Grand Terrace Independent Market between Mt. Vernon Avenue and Arliss Drive. Page four - PC-3/10/80 Comment: This action will recognize on the General Plan Map the existing residential neighborhood and prevent further encroachment of commercial development into this neighborhood. This action will also allow Benmoor Enterprises to again request a zone change to C-1-T (Neighborhood Commercial) for their parcel of land. (3) Amend+the General Plan from Commercial to Residential 2-4 DU/AC for 3- acres located s/o Minona Drive and n/o Grand Terrace Independent Market between Mt. Vernon Avenue and Arliss Drive. Comment: This action will recognize the entire neighborhood including the property owned by Benmoor Enterprises) on the General Plan Map for residential land uses. Mr. Haro then recommended the Planning Commission approve Alternative No. 2, adopt the Negative Declaration and instruct the City Clerk to issue a Notice of Determination. Chairman Tetley called upon the Applicant for input to the hearing. SUPPORTING TESTIMONY: City Manager Seth Armstead, representing the City, stated the City Council, in their capactiy as the Planning Commission, prior to establishment of the present Planning Commission, held a hearing on October 18, 1979 regarding Benmoor Enterprise's zone change request from R-1-T to C-2-T. Following the hearing, the Commission voted unanimously to deny, without prejudice, the request, and directed Staff to initiate a study of the subject area of the General Plan. Mrs. Joan Moore, 22773 La Paix, representative of Benmoor Enterprises, stated this parcel had been zoned C-2-T for 18 years, and during the course of working on the General Plan, somehow the parcel was changed to R-1-T. She requested this parcel to be allowed to remain in the Commercial designation under the General Plan and indicated concurrence with Staff's recommendation to approve Alternative No. 2. Chairman Tetley called for opposing testimony. OPPOSING TESTIMONY: Mr. Darrel McKinley, 12050 Arliss Drive, stated a preference for Alternative No. 3, to amend the General Plan from Commercial to Residential. Mr. Don Mangus, 12070 Arliss Drive, also spoke in favor of Alternative No. 3. Page five - PC-3/10/80 Mr. John R. Helt, 22592 Miriam Way, asked how the property originally had gotten zoned Commercial. Mr. Jack Hall, 12060 Arliss Drive, stated when the zone change occurred, notices had not been sent informing the surrounding residents of the proposed change. He spoke in favor of Alternative No. 3. Mr. Kenneth Howard, 22512 Minona Drive, spoke in favor of Alternative No. 3. Mrs. Marsha Mangus, 12070 Arliss Drive, spoke in favor of all residential, Alternative No. 3. Mr. Ron C. Gomez, 12045 Arliss Drive, voiced opposition to the Commercial zoning, and spoke in favor of Alternative No. 3. Mr. Ed Gregor, 11986 Arliss Drive, spoke against Commercial zoning. Mr. John R. Helt, 22592 Miriam Way, spoke against Commercial zoning. Chairman Tetley called upon the Applicant for a rebuttal. Mrs. Joan Moore stated she feels the property should be Commercial, since it is located 150 feet from the middle of town, and voiced opposition to amending the General Plan. She questioned why the residents had not opposed when the General Plan originally was being worked on. OPPOSING TESTIMONY FOLLOWING REBUTTAL: Mr. Don Mangus, 12070 Arliss Drive, stated he plans to remain in his home for a long period of time, and had he been informed his property was located within Commercial zoning, would never have purchased the house. Mrs. Marsha Mangus, 12070 Arliss Drive stated they had not previously been informed of proposed changes, and had learned of the matter from seeing a sign on the property designating it for lease as commercial. Mr. Jack Hall, 12060 Arliss Drive, stated the owner of the Grand Terrace Independent Market had wanted the Mangus property, 12070 Arliss Drive, changed to Commercial zoning. When this matter was heard at Planning Commission, the surrounding property owners opposed this, and the matter was denied by the Commission. Chairman Tetley called for a final rebuttal from the Applicant. Mrs. Joan Moore declined further comment. Page six - PC-3/10/80 Chairman Tetley closed Public Hearing. The Commission discussed the three alternatives presented, and also discussed the possibility of designating zoning of Administrative/ Professional for the property in question, and types of businesses. RESOLUTION NO. PC-80-3 A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF GRAND TERRACE REGARDING THE FIRST CYCLE 1980 GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENTS. PCM-80-26 Following discussion, MOTION was made by Commissioner Collins, seconded by Commissioner Andress to adopt Resolution PC-80-3 The Resolution was read in full. MOTION carried on AYE votes of Commissioners Andress, Bartel, Collins, Rivera and Watson, with Commissioner McDowell voting NOE. Chairman Tetley indicated the Chair will abstain, except in case of a tie. ADJOURN TO PUBLIC WORK SESSION The regular meeting of the Planning Commission adjourned to Public Work Session at 8:28 p.m. The Public Work Session adjourned at " 10:10 p.m. The next regular meeting of the Planning Commission will be held Monday, March 24, 1980 at 6:30 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Myrn Lindahl Approved• Page seven - PC-3/10/80