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05/03/1982 GRAND TERRACE PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING May 3 , 1982 The Grand Terrace Planning Commission regular meeting of May 3 , 1982 was called to order at 7 : 03 P .M . in the Terrace View Elementary School - Multi - Purpose Room , 22731 Grand Terrace Road , Grand Terrace , California by Vice Chairman Sanford L . Collins . PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE : Led by Commissioner McDowell ROLL CALL : Commissioners Present : Andress , Bartel , Cole , Collins , DeBenedet , Erway , McDowell , and Smith Commissioners Absent : None Others Present : Virginia Farmer , Director Planning Department Gloria J . Flood , Planning Secretary MINUTES : Regular meeting of April 5 , 1982 approved as submitted . PCM 82-26 MOTION by Commissioner Erway , seconded by Commissioner Cole and passed by an 8-0 VOTE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF APRIL 5 , 1982 AS SUBMITTED . NEW BUSINESS : ITEM #1 TENTATIVE TRACT MAP NO . 12218 PUBLIC HEARING KARGER CONSTRUCTION COMPANY North side of DeBerry between Mt . Vernon Avenue and Gage Canal . Virginia Farmer , Planning Director , presented the staff report . This project is a three lot condominium subdivision and complies with the State Subdivision Map Act . The developer is proposing 35 condominium units on 2 . 01 acres . The applicant is requesting a three lot subdivision for the purpose of phasing construction . The applicant , Barney Karger , spoke in favor of the project , and acknowledged that he agreed with the conditions . Commissioner Andress arrived at 8 : 00 P .M . Vice Chairman Collins stated for the record that no other people were present in the audience , therefore , the Chair waived the public hearing for this project . Grand Terrace Planning Commission Page 1 of 5 May 3 , 1982 COMMISSION DISCUSSION FOLLOWED : Vice Chairman Collins inquired that on Condition No . 23 the last sentence reads , "The subdivider shall comply with all current reg- ulations and rules of the Southern California Edison Company as filed with the Public Utilities Commission for the installation of underground or overhead electric utilities within this tract . " He asked if wires would be underground or overhead . Mrs . Farmer stated utilities will be underground . Commission asked that the words "or overhead " be deleted from Condition No . 23 . PCM 82- 27 MOTION by Commissioner McDowell , seconded by Commissioner Erway , and passed by an 8-0 VOTE TO APPROVE THE PROJECT BASED ON THE MATERIAL IN THE STAFF REPORT AND PRESENTA- TION AND THE TESTIMONY RECEIVED , MOVED TO ADOPT THE NEGATIVE DECLARATION ISSUED FOR THIS TRACT AND FURTHER MOVED TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF TENTATIVE TRACT NO . 12218 TO THE CITY COUNCIL INCLUDING THE FINDINGS AND SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS AS SET OUT IN THE ATTACHED STAFF REPORT PAGES 1 THROUGH 3 INCLUSIVE , AND AS AMENDED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION . -- ------ ------ -- ------ -------------------------------------------------- ITEM #2 SITE PLAN AND ARCHITECTURAL PUBLIC HEARING REVIEW NO . SA 82- 6 KARGER CONSTRUCTION COMPANY Virginia Farmer , Planning Director , presented the staff report . This project is for site plan and architectural review for condo- miniums to be located in Tract 12218 . Mrs . Farmer stated that models A and B have garages in the front . Models E and F have patios between the house and garage . Models C and D have patios in front . The applicant , Barney Karger , spoke in favor of the project , and stated for the record that he agreed with the special conditions . Vice Chairman Collins stated for the record that seeing no public present the Chair waived the public hearing for this project . COMMISSION DISCUSSION FOLLOWED : Vice Chairman Collins asked why the roofs are half composition shingle and half concrete tile . Mr . Karger explained that due to solar water heaters and the maintenance thereof , that tile roofs around the equipment are impractical . Composition roofs are pro- posed on the rear where solar units are to be placed . Commissioner DeBenedet asked about the unit at the corner of Mt . Vernon and DeBerry . Commissioner DeBenedet stated appearance of wall of dwelling unit is stark and would like to see it treated with wood , brick or rock . Mr . Karger explained that a window extends the two stories and that landscaping would eliminate the stark appearance . Grand Terrace Planning Commission Page 2 of 5 May 3, 1982 Commissioners Andress and Erway stated whatever change is proposed should be consistent with existing surroundings and design of the condominiums . Commissioner Collins inquired if the units shared a common wall . Mr . Karger said there are common walls where the units are identical . Commissioner Collins asked about the construction of common walls . Mr . Karger stated common walls will have double 2x4 ' s with two layers of 5/8" drywall in between 3 1/2 " fiberglass insulation . Commissioner Bartel asked about the front door overhangs . Mr . Karger stated the front overhang is about a foot and a half . After discussion Commission imposed the following conditions : 7 . Exterior treatment of unit at corner of Mt . Vernon Avenue and DeBerry Street shall have decorative wood siding . 8 . Front doors shall be solid paneled wood mahogany . 9 . Overhang over front doors on elevations C , D , F shall be given decorative treatment to be informally resubmitted to the Planning Commission for approval prior to construction . 10 . Roofs shall be concrete tile . Commissioner Erway asked the applicant about the roofs in the surrounding neighborhoods . Mr . Karger stated they are composition shingle except for the Terrace Mesa Apartments across the street . Commissioner Cole stated in his opinion roofs should be one material and asked if the Commission could limit applicants to a specific material . Mrs . Farmer stated the Commission could decide to limit the roof and that applicant has right to appeal a Planning Commission decision . Commission questioned whether the determination regarding the roofs should be in the form of a motion . Commission consensus was that the question should be in the form of a motion . PCM 82- 28 MOTION by Commissioner DeBenedet , seconded by Commissioner Bartel and passed by an 7- 1 VOTE TO REQUIRE ROOFS TO BE ALL CONCRETE TILE . Commissioner Smith voting no . PCM 82- 29 MOTION by Commissioner Erway , seconded by Commissioner Andress , and passed by an 8-0 VOTE TO APPROVE SA 82-6 BASED ON THE MATERIAL IN THE STAFF PRESENTATION AND REPORT AND THE TESTIMONY RECEIVED ; MOVED TO ADOPT THE NEGATIVE DECLARATION , AND FURTHER MOVED TO APPROVE SITE AND ARCHITECTURAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN SA 82-6 , INCLUDING THE FINDINGS AS WRITTEN IN THE STAFF REPORT AND SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF AND AMENDED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION . - - ------ ------ ------ -- --------------------------------------------- ---- Grand Terrace Planning Commission Page 3 of 5 May 3 , 1982 ITEM #3 MEMBERSHIP IN THE SAN BERNARDINO INFORMATION ITEM COUNTY CENTRAL CREDIT UNION Virginia Farmer , Planning Director , presented the staff report and reviewed benefits to the City ' s employees , Planning Commissioners stated they were interested and to keep them informed on the matter , ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ITEM #4 INTERIM CHAIRMAN AND NUMBER OF COMMISSIONERS Virginia Farmer , Planning Director , presented the staff report stating four members ' terms expire June 30 , 1982 . The City Council is not yet prepared to reappoint Commissioners so it will be necessary to appoint an Interim Chairman . Also , the City Council would like a recommendation from the Commission as to whether a seven member Commission meets with their approval , stating it is customary for cities to have five or seven member Commissions rather than nine member Commissions . COMMISSION DISCUSSION FOLLOWED : The Commissioners decided that they wished to allow Commissioners to continue and let attrition take care of reducing the Commission to seven members . Since all members of the Commission wish to continue with their present duties . PCM 82-30 MOTION by Commissioner Andress , seconded by Commissioner Erway , and passed by an 8-0 VOTE TO RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL A COMMISSION SIZE OF SEVEN AND ALLOW ATTRITION TO REDUCE COMMISSION SIZE TO SEVEN MEMBERS SINCE ALL COMMISSIONERS EXPRESSED AN INTEREST TO CONTINUE . ------------- ------ ------------------------------------------------- -- -- ITEM #5 ELECTION OF INTERIM PLANNING COMMISSION CHAIRMAN Virginia Farmer , Planning Director , outlined the procedure to elect an Interim Planning Commission Chairman . Commissioner Erway asked Vice Chairman Collins if he wished to continue as Vice Chairman of the Commission . Vice Chairman Collins stated he believed the Interim Chairman should be a member of the Commission who can be present during this period of time and that his work Schedule did not permit him the time to continue as the Interim Chairman , however , he would like to remain Vice Chairman . Grand Terrace Planning Commission Page 4 of 5 May 3 , 1982 COMMISSION DISCUSSION FOLLOWED : PCM 82- 31 MOTION by Commissioner Andress , seconded by Commissioner Erway and passed by an 8-0 VOTE TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR NOMINATIONS FOR INTERIM CHAIRMAN . Commissioner Smith nominated Commissioner Doug Erway for Interim Chairman . Commissioner Bartel nominated Commissioner John McDowell for Interim Chairman . PCM 82-32 MOTION by Commissioner Andress , seconded by Commissioner Cole and passed by an 8-0 VOTE TO CLOSE THE FLOOR FOR FURTHER NOMINATIONS FOR INTERIM CHAIRMAN . The Commission voted by secret ballot . Mrs . Farmer counted the ballots and declared Commissioner Doug Erway the new Interim Chairman . Vice Chairman Collins remained as the Vice Chairman of the Planning Commission . There being no further business , the meeting was adjourned at 8 : 55 P .M . .Respectfully submitted by , VirginA Farmer , Planning Director APPROVE - Z DOUG ERW Y , TNERZIM CHAIRMAN Grand Terrace Planning Commission Page 5 of 5 May 3 , 1982