08/02/1982 GRAND TERRACE PLANNING COMMISSION
MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING
AUGUST 2 , 1982
The Grand Terrace Planning Commission regular meeting of August 2 ,
1982 was called to order at 7 : 10 P . M . in the Terrace View Elementary
School Multi - Purpose Room , 22731 Grand Terrace Road , Grand Terrace ,
California by Vice Chairman Sanford L . Collins .
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE : Led by Commissioner McDowell
ROLL CALL : Commissioners Present : Cole , Collins , DeBenedet ,
McDowell , Munson and Smith
Commissioners Absent : Andress (excused ) , Erway
( excused ) , and Bartel
Others Present : Virginia Farmer , Director
Planning Department
Tom Coyle , Administrative Assistant
Gloria J . Flood , Planning Secretary
MINUTES : The minutes of the regular meeting of July 12 , 1982
were approved as submitted .
PCM 82-48 MOTION by Commissioner DeBenedet , seconded by Commissioner
McDowell and passed by a 6-0 VOTE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES
OF JULY 12 , 1982 AS SUBMITTED .
NEW BUSINESS :
ITEM #1
Virginia Farmer , Planning Director , introduced Ray Munson as new
Planning Commissioner to fill the vacancy left by the resignation
of Chairman Frank 0 . Tetley .
Ray Munson took the Oath of Office administered by Mrs . Farmer .
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ITEM #2
SITE PLAN AND ARCHITECTURAL PUBLIC HEARING
REVIEW NO . SA 82- 11
JOE L . AND RUTH PORTILLO
Virginia Farmer , Planning Director , presented the staff report . The
project is a Site Plan and Architectural Review for a single family
dwelling unit located 296 feet North of Barton Road on the West side
of La Cadena .
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The property is zoned for R 1- 20 and proposed house is to be placed
on lot sideways .
The proposed dwelling unit will be 1700 square feet with Mission
Clay tile on the roof.
Commissioner McDowell stated the side of the house seen from La
Cadena is very barn like . Mrs . Farmer stated the house is set
far back and with landscaping it will not look that stark .
Commissioner DeBenedet asked why the Commission did not receive
a set of plans for the house . Mrs . Farmer stated the Ordinance
does not require a set of building plans only elevations .
Commissioner DeBenedet stated fascia board with this heavy style
roofing should be a minimum of 2" x 8" . Mrs . Farmer replied that
the Commission could add a condition to this effect .
Commissioner McDowell expressed concern for the driveway which
he feels interfers with the porch . Mrs . Farmer stated it was a
small entry patio .
PCM 82-49 MOTION by Commissioner McDowell , seconded by Commissioner
DeBenedet and passed by a 6-0 VOTE TO ADD CONDITIONS
REQUIRING A DECREASED PATIO AREA IF NECESSARY FOR A
TURNAROUND AREA AND 2 " x 8" FASCIA BOARDS .
Commissioner Cole asked if it was customary to approve a project
without the applicant being present . Mrs . Farmer stated applicant
was given proper notification and did not choose to attend the
meeting .
Vice Chairman Collins stated for the record that since applicant and
public were not present the public hearing was waived .
COMMISSION ACTION :
PCM 82-50 MOTION by Commissioner Cole , seconded by Commissioner
DeBenedet and passed by a 6-0 VOTE TO ADOPT THE NEGATIVE
DECLARATION AND BASED ON THE MATERIAL IN THE STAFF
PRESENTATION , REPORT AND LACK OF TESTIMONY RECEIVED ,
MOVED TO APPROVE SA 82- 11 , INCLUDING THE FINDINGS AS
WRITTEN IN THE STAFF REPORT AND SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS
RECOMMENDED BY STAFF AND AS AMENDED BY PLANNING COMMISSION .
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ITEM #3
RESOLUTION OF INTENT
PC NO . 82-02
Virginia Farmer , Planning Director , presented the staff report . The
land was under study by the ad hoc Economic Development Committee .
The City Council requested the Planning Commission to consider a town
center overlay on the C-2 land so that orderly development might take
place . Mrs . Farmer further stated that a Resolution of Intent must
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be passed and the people notified by mail pursuant to the Zone
Ordinance requirements before the Planning Commission holds a
public hearing.
Commissioner Collins asked what an overlay zone meant . Mrs . Farmer
stated the overlay provided for the orderly phasing and development
criteria similar to a PUD .
Commissioner Smith asked if the individual property owners could
develop their property . Mrs . Farmer stated it could be done
if it were in parcels of 30 acres or more .
COMMISSION ACTION :
PCM 82 -51 MOTION by Vice Chairman Collins , seconded by Commissioner
Cole and passed by a 6-0 VOTE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO .
PC . 82-02 .
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ITEMS #4 & #5
PROPOSED MINIMUM HOUSING STANDARDS
ORDINANCE AND PROPOSED NUISANCE
ABATEMENT ORDINANCE
Virginia Farmer , Planning Director , presented the staff reports for
the proposed ordinances concurrently . Mrs . Farmer stated the City
Council has authorized codification of all the City ' s Ordinances .
By codifying , the City will then sort out any duplications that appear .
There are many duplications within the San Bernardino County Code
and the City ' s Ordinances . In addition , codification requires
inclusion of certain ordinances ordered by the State for General Law
Cities .
Mrs . Farmer further stated that many duplications of the provisions
in the model ordinances and that a contract City had minimal staff
for enforcing ordinances that already exit . She therefore ,
recommended denial of the proposed ordinances .
Mrs . Farmer stated that some sections of these ordinances may infringe
on civil rights and/or property rights and they could be brought to
court . The maximum fine on Zoning violations is $500 .
Commissioner DeBenedet asked how other cities enforce their laws and
ordinances . Mrs . Farmer stated most zoning is enforced by complaints .
Tom Coyle , Administrative Assistant and Code Enforcement Officer ,
stated that other cities enforce their ordinances on a complaint
basis such as our City . A complaint is made and then the City
Enforcement Officer checks the complaint out . Code Enforcement is
a difficult area to enforce where a public nuisance is concerned .
Judges trying public nuisance and housing standards cases have been
found to be very lenient with violators . If private property is
involved and one is trying to put his City ' s standards to their use
of property , one must have a reason to show that it does affect the
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health and general well -being of the neighborhood . Mr . Coyle
further stated these laws or ordinances are contained in most
part by either the State codes or the County codes .
Commissioner DeBenedet stated something should be done as far as
having ordinances to protect the rest of the citizens . Mrs .
Farmer stated codification should be completed sometime around
the first of the year and maybe we could defer these ordinances
and find out what has been left out and study the subject at
that time .
COMMISSION ACTION :
PCM 82-52 MOTION by Commissioner Smith , seconded by Vice Chairman
Collins and failed by a 3-3 VOTE TO CONTINUE THE
PROPOSED ORDINANCES UNTIL FEBRUARY 15 , 1983 .
Vice Chairman Collins , Commissioner Munson and Smith
voting aye . Commissioners Cole , DeBenedet and
McDowell voting noe .
PCM 82-53 MOTION by Commissioner Munson , seconded by Commissioner
Smith and passed by a 4-2 VOTE TO POSTPONE DECISION
OR DISCUSSION UNTIL FEBRUARY 15 , 1983 ON THE PROPOSED
MINIMUM HOUSING STANDARDS ORDINANCE OR WHENEVER THE
CODIFICATION IS COMPLETED.
Commissioners DeBenedet and McDowell voted in opposition
to this motion .
PCM 82-54 MOTION by Commissioner DeBenedet , seconded by Commissioner
Munson and passed by a 6-0 VOTE TO POSTPONE DECISION
AND/OR DISCUSSION UNTIL OCTOBER ON THE PROPOSED NUISANCE
ABATEMENT ORDINANCE AT WHICH STAFF WILL BRING BACK
COMPARISONS BETWEEN THIS ORDINANCE AND COUNTY CODES .
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The meeting was adjourned at 8 : 45 P . M. to an adjourned regular
meeting on Monday , August 16 , 1982 at 7 :00 P . M . in the Planning
Department Conference Room , 22795 Barton Road , Grand Terrace , CA.
Respectfully submitted by ,
Vire nia Farmer , Planning Director
APPROVED :
DOUGLAS RWAY , CHAIRMAN
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