08/05/1985 12-8.1043
GRAND TERRACE PLANNING COMMISSION
MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING
AUGUST 5, 1985
The adjourned regular meeting of the Grand Terrace Planning Commission
was called to order at the Grand Terrace Civic Center, 22795 Barton
Road, Grand Terrace, CA 92324 on August 5, 1985, at 7:00 p.m. by
Chairman Norman T. Caouette.
PRESENT: Norman T. Caouette, Chairman
Jerry Hawkinson, Vice-Chairman
Gerald Cole, Commissioner
Ray Munson, Commissioner
Sanford L. Collins, Commissioner
John McDowell, Commissioner
Joseph Kicak, Planning Director
Ivan Hopkins, City Attorney
Lynn Halligan, Planning Secretary
ABSENT: Vern Andress, Commissioner Excused
William DeBenedet, Commissioner Excused
Pledge of Allegience: Led by Vice-Chairman Jerry Hawkinson
I. MINUTES
Minutes of July 1, 1985
PCM 85-70 Motion by Commissioner Collins,
seconded by Commissioner Munson, and
passed by a 6-0 vote to approve the
minutes of July 1, 1985, as submitted.
Commissioner Collins requested a copy of minutes for the Joint Planning
Commission/City Council meeting held on July 8, 1985.
Joseph Kicak, Planning Director, responded that the Planning Department
will distribute these minutes for Planning Commission approval, at
their next regularly scheduled meeting of August 19, 1985.
II. Site and Architectural Review SA 85-10, approve single family
residence at 12660 Sandburg Way. The applicant is sir. J. Wilson.
Joseph Kicak, Planning Director, presented the Staff Report to
the Planning Commission. Staff recommended approval of SA
85-10 subject to the conditions of approval.
Chairman Caouette opened discussion on this item, asked if
there was anyone in favor of or in opposition to this project.
Chairman Caouette felt that a tile roof should be included as
part of the conditions of approval.
Commissioner Collins felt the individual homeowner-builder is
always required to put in tile roofs, while Griffin Homes can
build 85 homes without a tile roof.
PCM 85-71 Motion by Chairman Caouette, seconded
by Vice-Chairman Hawkinson, and passed
by a 5-1 vote to include Condition
No. 7 for SA 85-10, indicating that the
structure shall have a tile roof as
approved by the City Engineer.
Commissioner Collins voted against the
motion.
PCM 85-72 Motion by Commissioner Collins and
seconded by Vice-Chairman Hawkinson,
and passed by a 6-0 vote to approve
Site and Architectural Review SA 85-10,
including the findings as written in
the staff report and the conditions
recommended by Staff.
II-B Site and Architectural Review SA 85-12, approve single family
residence at 12670 Sandburg Lay. The applicant is Mr. Victor
A. Yanasheski.
Mr. Kicak, Planning Director, presented the Staff Report to the
Planning Commission, noting that the house would have a tile
roof.
There being no comments from the public or the applicant,
Chairman Caouette closed the public hearing.
PCM 85-73 :Motion by Commissioner Munson, seconded
by Commissioner Cole, and passed by a
6-0 vote to approve SA 85-12, including
the findings as written in the Staff
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Report and the conditions recommended
by Staff.
II-C Lot Line Adjustment, Lots 21 and 23 Tract 9772 requested by
Griffin Homes.
Mr. Kicak, Planning Director, explained the proposed lot line
adjustment to the Commission and stated that both lots would
meet minimum City requirements.
Chairman Caouette opened the Public Hearing and asked if anyone
wanted to speak in favor of or in opposition to the proposal,
there being no response the Public Hearing was closed.
PCM 85-74 Motion by Vice-Chairman Hawkinson, and
seconded by Commissioner McDowell, and
passed by a 6-0 vote 'to approve the
Lot Line Adjustment for Lots 21 and 23
of Tract 9772, including the findings
and recommendations of Staff.
II-D Site and Architectural Review SA 85-13, Building addition to the
Korean SDA Church at 12408 Mt. Vernon. Requested by Mr. Frank
Lee.
Mr. Kicak, Planning Director, explained to the Commission that
the Korean Church is planning to construct a new building on
the existing site, adding approximately 9600 sq. ft. to be
used for classrooms and social functions. He also explained
that the Korean Church has a reciprocal agreement with the
adjoining Baptist Church for each to use each others parking
lot. Since services are held on different days, parking is not
a problem.
Commissioner McDowell expressed concern about the appearance of
the buildings, the lack of landscaping and asked if an archi-
tectural review could be used to upgrade the property.
Mr. Kicak, Planning Director, referred the question to the City
Attorney, pointing out that the Staff Report stated that the
landscaping does not comply with current City standards.
Mr. Ivan Hopkins, City Attorney, informed the Commission that a
new condition was not necessary, but the Commission should
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direct the Staff to enforce the existing conditions.
A discussion followed between the Commission and the Applicant
concerning future expansion plans of the Church.
PCM 85-75 Motion by Commissioner McDowell and
seconded by Vice-Chairman Hawkinson
and passed by a 5-1 vote, to direct
the Planning Staff to implement and
enforce the current Planning conditions
and requirements for SA 85-13.
Commissioner Collins voted against the
motion.
Chairman Caouette opened the Public Hearing and asked if anyone
wanted to speak either for or against the project, there being
no response, the Public Hearing was closed.
PCM 85-76 Motion by Commissioner Collins,
seconded by Commissioner Cole, and
passed by a 6-0 vote to approve Site
and Architectural Review SA 85-13,
including the findings and recommenda-
tions written in the Staff Report.
Commissioner Collins voted against the
motion.
III-A Discuss Report to City Council On General Plan
Chairman Caouette asked the City Attorney if the matter could
be continued for two weeks without opening the public hearing.
Mr. Ivan Hopkins, City Attorney, informed the Commission that it
was not necessary to open the Public Hearing, if the Commission
wished to continue the matter.
PCM 85-77 Motion by Chairman Caouette, and
seconded by Commissioner Cole and
passed by a 5-1 vote, to continue the
Report to the City Council on the
General Plan, until the August 19,
1985 Planning Commission Meeting.
Commissioner Collins voted against the
motion.
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III. B School Impaction Study
Chairman Caouette opened the discussion by noting the
Commission had received the Impaction Report from the Colton
School District along with supplemental information from the
City Staff.
Mr. Addison Colvert, from the law firm of Parker and Colvert,
1901 E. 4th Street, Suite 312, Santa Ana, CA. , was the Attorney
representing the Colton Unified School District.
Mr. Colvert addressed the School Impaction issue and the impact
that future housing development will have on the School District.
Mr. Colvert introduced Mr. Daniel Carrasco, Director of
Administrative Services for the Colton Unified School District.
Mr. Carrasco was available to answer any questions regarding
the School Impaction Report.
Mr. Colvert stated that this is not an unusual situation, since
school fees are being required from other cities within San
Bernardino County.
The Planning Commission asked Mr. Carrasco several questions.
PCM 85-78 Motion by Commissioner Collins and
seconded by Commissioner Munson and
passed by a 5-1 vote to recommend to
the City Council that a School Impac-
tion be considered.
Commissioner McDowell voted against
the motion.
III. C. Traffic Study & Speed Zone Survey
Mr. Kicak, Planning Director, presented the Staff Report to -the
Planning Commission.
Mr. Kicak informed the Planning Commission that a Traffic
Study of various City Streets was conducted by the San Bernardino
County Road Department Traffic Division. This study, which is
conducted every 5 years, was undertaken, so that the Sheriff's
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Department could enforce the posted speed limits.
PCM 85-79 Motion by Commissioner McDowell and
seconded by Chairman Caouette and
passed by a 6-0 vote, to accept the
Traffic Study and Speed Zone Survey
and recommend to the City Council
that such report be accepted by the
City Council.
III. D. announcement and discussion of Funds Available to Planning
Commission Members for attending Educational Seminars.
Before this item was discussed, Chairman Caouette asked Mr.
Kicak to inform the City Council that September 28, 1985, was
an acceptable date for a joint City Council/Planning Commission
workshop.
Mr. Kicak, Planning Director, informed the Planning Commission
that there is approximately $2,000 in this year's budget that
the Planning Commissioners may use to attend various educational
activities.
III. E. Funds Available for Undergrounding Electrical Lines
Mr. Kicak, Planning Director, informed the Planning Commission
that under Rule 20, based on electrical meters, the City of
Grand Terrace is allocated a certain amount of funds for
undergrounding existing overhead electrical lines. The City
has thus far accumulated $85,000. Staff recommended that the
City continue to accumulate these funds at least for another
year.
PCM 85-80 Motion by Commissioner Collins and
seconded by Commissioner McDowell and
passed by a 6-0 vote, to save 1985
Rule 20 Allocations until enough is
available to do a significant project,
and sometime within the next year
select an area for the first under-
grounding.
III. F. Resolution requesting Action on Proposed Amendment to
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Title 18 - Municipal Code Dealing with Appeal Procedures.
Mr. Ivan Hopkins, City Attorney, informed the Planning Commission
that the appeal procedure as set forth in the City of Grand
Terrace Municipal Code does not comply with the requirements of
the law. The law gives the right to adjoining property owners
to appeal unfavorable decisions. The law does give property
owners that right, therefore, Staff recommends that this section
of the Grand Terrace Municipal Code be made in compliance with
State Law. A public hearing must be set by the Planning
Commission before this Amendment to the Municipal Code is
approved.
PCM 85-81 Motion by Vice-Chairman Hawkinson and
seconded by Commissioner Cole and
passed by a 6-0 vote, to set a public
hearing on the first Planning Commission
meeting in September, 1985. The intent
of the public hearing is to consider
the proposed amendment to Title 18 of
the Municipal Code dealing with Appeal
Procedures.
III. G. Resolution requesting Action on Proposed Amendment to
Title 18 - Municipal Code Dealing with Banner Signs.
Mr. Hopkins, City Attorney, informed the Planning Commission
that the City Council had received a great deal of input from
local merchants and businessmen regarding the use of temporary
banner signs.
Based on this input Staff recommends that the Planning Commission
set a public hearing date to consider an amendment to Title 18 -
Grand Terrace Municipal Code. The proposed amendment would
change the time limit for special signs from forty-five days a
year to thirty days twice a year.
PCM 85-82 Motion by Vice-Chairman Hawkinson and
seconded by Commissioner Collins, and
passed by a 6-0 vote, to set a public
hearing on the first Planning Commission
meeting in September, 1985. The intent
of the public hearing is to consider the
proposed amendment to Title 18 of the
Municipal Code dealing with Special
Event Signs.
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Chairman Caouette requested a short break at 8:40 p.m. and the Planning
Commission reconvened at 8:55 p.m.
IV. Unfinished Business
IV. A. Corrected Meeting Minutes of May 20, 1985. Continued from
the July 15, 1985 Planning Commission Meeting.
PCM 85-83 Motion by Commissioner Collins and
seconded by Vice-Chairman Hawkinson
and passed by a 6-0 vote to approve
the corrected Planning Commission
minutes of May 20, 1985.
IV. B. Barney Karger - Site and Architectural Review SA 84-15/
Buffer Zone Variance; 2- two story office buildings
located at 22220 Barton Road.
Mr. Kicak, Planning Director, presented the Staff Report to
the Planning Commission.
The applicant, Mr. Barney Karger, 11668 Bernardo Way, Grand
Terrace, addressed the Commission and answered questions
regarding his project.
PCM 85-84 Motion by Commissioner Munson and
seconded by Chairman Caouette and
passed by a 6-0 vote, to approve
a variance for SA 84-15 that will
modify the requirements of Section
18.48.060 (M) of Title 18 from a 25 ft.
buffer zone to a 4 ft. buffer zone.
Require a 6 ft. masonry wall along the
north property line and waive the wall
requirement along the remaining property
lines for SA 84-15. Allow the number of
required parking spaces for SA 84-15 to
be based on gross floor area. Adopt the
Negative Declaration and approve Site
and Architectural Plan 84-15, including
the findings as written in the Staff
Report and the conditions recommended
by Staff, subject to ratification of the
Negative Declaration by the City Council.
IV. C. T.J. Austyn, Inc. - Terrace Hills Tentative Tract Map No.
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13050/Specific Plan 85-10, construction of 176 detached
single family units on 44.3 gross acres, located at the
eastern terminus of Van Buren Street adjacent to Blue
Mountain. This item was continued from the July 15, 1985
Planning Commission meeting.
Mr. Kicak, Planning Director, presented the Staff Report to
the Planning Commission.
After much discussion among the Planning Commissioners, the
applicant was given an opportunity to speak in behalf of
his project.
The applicant Mr. Bill Storm, T.J. Austyn, Inc. , 800 N.
Newport Blvd. , Newport Beach, CA. , agreed with all the
conditions of approval, with the exception of three items.
The first item was on wording, which has since been corrected.
The second item was Observation Drive, which Mr. Storm has
committed to full width from where it ends at the Griffin
Tract to Van Buren Street. The applicant will be improving
that 1/2 portion that was not a requirement but will solve
drainage problems and improve traffic circulation. The third
item was the waiver of the 6 ft. perimeter wall. The
applicant indicated that this requirement would be very
expensive and provide little benefits to the property.
After much discussion, Chairman Caouette opened the public
hearing. Anyone in favor of this project was asked to come
forward.
Mr. Barney Karger, 11668 Bernardo Way, spoke in favor of this
project.
Chairman Caouette asked if there was anyone who wished to
speak in opposition to this proejct. Since no one spoke in
opposition, Chairman Caouette closed the public hearing.
PCM 85-85 Motion by Vice-Chairman Hawkinson,
and seconded by Commissioner Munson,
and passed by a 6-0 vote, that in the
event the City does recognize impaction
fees, those fees would be a condition
of this project.
PCM 85-86 Motion by Vice-Chairman Hawkinson and
seconded by Chairman Caouette, and
passed by a 6-0 vote to delete the
6 ft. perimeter masonry wall as a
project requirement.
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PCM 85-87 Motion by Commissioner Collins and
seconded by Vice-Chairman Hawkinson
and passed by a 6-0 vote, to amend
Condition No. 16 under Conditions of
Approval, to read that backyard
fencing will be presented along with
the Site and Architectural Review of
the project.
PCM 85-88 Motion by Vice-Chairman Hawkinson and
seconded by Chairman Caouette and
passed by Chairman Caouette, and passed
by a 6-0 vote, to allow the applicant
to construct full width improvements
to Van Buren and allow the applicant
to bond for 1/2 width improvements of
Observation Drive, to the southerly
boundary. Allow the applicant to
improve Pico Street within the Tract
boundary with 33 feet of right-of-way
and curb at 22 feet north of centerline.
There was a 5 minute recess at 9:45 p.m. due to tape machine
difficulties.
Chairman Caouette reconvened the meeting at 9:50 p.m.
PCM 85-89 Motion by Commissioner Collins and
seconded by Commissioner Cole, and
approved by a 6-0 vote, to adopt
the Planning Commission Resolution
recommending to the City Council
adoption of the Negative Environmental
Declaration and approval of Tentative
Tract Map No. 13050/Specific Plan
85-10, subject to the findings as
written in the Staff Report and
subject to the conditions recommended
by Staff.
V. New Business
A. Charles Tsang - 88 Unit Senior Citizen Rest Home, located at
22325 Barton Road. Conditional Use Permit 85-9 and Site &
Architectural Review SA 85-9.
Mr. Kicak, Planning Director, presented the Staff Report to
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the Planning Commission.
Chairman Caouette expressed concern on approving the
Conditional Use Permit and Site & Architectural Review at
the same time.
Mr. Kicak, Planning Director, agreed with Chairman Caouette
that the applicant needed additional information such as
dimensions.
Chairman Caouette asked the applicant to address the
Planning Commission.
Mr. Charles Tsang, the applicant/developer, 1205 Ashford,
Artesia, CA. , indicated that there was a need for this type
of resthome in this area. The applicant agreed with all the
conditions set forth by staff.
Mr. Tsang answered questions from the Planning Commission.
Chairman Caouette opened the Public Hearing and asked if there
was anyone who wanted to speak in favor of this project.
Mary Suppert, lived at the Garden Home Apaartments for 19 years,
she spoke in favor of this project.
Chairman Caouette asked if there was anyone else who wanted to
speak in favor or in opposition to this project. Being no
further public comments, Chairman Caouette closed the public
hearing and referred this item to the Planning Commission for
further discussion.
Commissioner Munson did not want to approve the Site &
Architectural Review that evening. He felt he needed
additional information regarding the type of construction and
the size of the buildings.
PCM 85-90 Motion by Commissioner McDowell and
seconded by Commissioner Collins, and
failed by a 5-2 vote to approve
Conditional Use Permit 85-9 and Site
& Architectural Review, including the
findings as written in the Staff
Report and subject to conditions as
recommended by Staff.
Commissioner McDowell and Commissioner
Collins voted in favor of the motion.
PCM 85-91 Motion by Vice-Chairman Hawkinson and
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seconded by Commissioner Cole and
passed by a 5-1 vote, to approve
Conditional Use Permit 85-9 only.
Commissioner McDowell voted against
the motion.
Chairman Caouette asked that the Planning Commission address
specific Site & Architectural concerns on SA 85-9.
Commisioner Cole wanted to know the type of materials that
were going to be used on the building.
Commissioner Munson asked for additional information on the
temple located on top of the building. He wanted to know
the purpose of the top twenty feet of the tower.
Mr. Tsang, the applicant, indicated that the tower was there for
visibility purposes only and would eliminate it if the
Planning Commission so desired. Mr. Tsang also pointed out
that the dimensions of the rooms could be scaled out, but
agreed that the Architect should have labeled the dimensions.
Chairman Caouette adjourned the Planning Commission meeting at 11:00 p.m.
to the next regularly scheduled meeting at 7:00 p.m. August 19, 1985.
Respectfully submitted,
J SEPH KICAK, Planning Director
ai In, la Zing Commission
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