12/21/2010CITY OF GRAND TERRACE
CITY COUNCIL MINUTES
SPECIAL MEETING - DECEMBER 21, 2010
A special meeting of the City Council of the City of Grand Terrace was called to order in the Council
Chambers, Grand Terrace Civic Center, 22795 Barton Road, Grand Terrace, California, on
December 21, 2010 at 6:00 p.m.
PRESENT: Walt Stanckiewitz, Mayor
Lee Ann Garcia, Mayor Pro Tern
Darcy McNaboe, Councilmember
Bernardo Sandoval, Councilmember
Betsy M. Adams, City Manager
Brenda Mesa, City Clerk
Bernard Simon, Finance Director
Joyce Powers, Community & Economic Development Director
Richard Shields, Building & Safety Director
John Harper, City Attorney
ABSENT: Sgt. Carlos Espinoza, San Bernardino County Sheriffs Department
Rick McClintock, San Bernardino County Fire Department
The City Council meeting was opened with Invocation by Mayor Pro Tern Lee Ann Garcia,
followed by the Pledge of Allegiance led by Councilwoman Darcy McNaboe.
Public Comment
Barney Barnett, 474 Prospect, Highgrove, feels that it is very important for the entire
region on both sides of the County line in Highgrove and Grand Terrace to get
someone on SANBAG and SCAG Boards that will be aggressive, firm and pursue
the metrolink station stop in Highgrove.
Patricia Farley 12513 Michigan, she requested that the Council consider to not have
any financial support of the Blue Mountain Paper. She feels that it has a history of
being bias. The misuse of the paper has caused people to think that it represents the
City and she feels that it is being managed by people that have undermined things
that the City needs.
Cynthia Bidney, 12219 Pascal, thanked Mayor Pro Tern for her efforts in trying to
mitigate the South wall. She requested that the Council place the mitigation of the
South wall for open discussion and mitigation at the next meeting.
2. Consider Options to Fill Vacant City Council Seat
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Patricia Farlev,12513 Michigan Street, feels that there is no justification whatsoever
for any one other than Sylvia Robles to be appointed to the Council. She feels that
holding a special election is a waste of money and there is no reason why the Council
should not make an appointment to fill the vacant seat.
Bobbie Forbes, 11850 Burns Avenue, feels that she has the right to pick the Mayor,
the right to pick Council Members and she feels that she should have to the right to
pick who fills the vacancy.
Debra Hurst, 22950 Orangewood Court, feels that the Council should fill the vacant
seat by appointment and that they should appoint Sylvia Robles.
Roger Kowalski, 22645 Arliss Drive, newly elected School Board Member for the
Colton Joint Unified School District. He congratulated the newly elected
Councilmembers and Mayor and thanked them for attending the Special Meeting that
was held by the Board. He thanked Mayor Pro Tem Garcia for all her years of
service. He suggested appointing someone to fill the vacant seat on Council.
Robert Krause, 22710 Eton Drive, would like the Council to appoint someone to fill
the vacant seat on the Council. 0
Jeff McConnell Walnut Avenue, stated that he went to the Registrar of Voters Office
and spoke to a staff member. There is an election on August 30, 2011 but it is not
a general election and it is not one that the City can piggy back on, however we can
do a Mail Ballot Election on that day which would cost approximately $30,000.00.
He stated that May 1, 2011 is also available for that type of Mail Ballot Election. He
feels that if the Council doesn't want to spend the money for a special election then
maybe they should just leave the seat vacant.
Terry McGuire, 22525 Franklin Street, feels that the vacant seat should not be filled
by appointment. He feels that there are other people that are qualified to fill this
vacancy and should have an opportunity to do so.
Tom Roberts, 22111 Newport Avenue #148, he feels that the Council should fill the
vacant seat by appointment and not spend the money on a special election. He feels
that the Council should share with the community those who they may consider for
appointment.
Jim Stamm, 12227 Pascal Avenue, feels that the vacant seat should be filled by
appointment.
Anne Wade Hornsby. 22656 Brentwood Street, supports filling the vacancy by
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appointment.
Charles Hornsby, 22656 Brentwood Street, supports filling the vacancy by
appointment.
Herman Hilkev, 23196 Glendora Drive, feels that if the Council is able to agree on
an appointment that would be the smart thing to do, however if you can't then it
needs to go to a vote of the people.
Betty Guzman, 23225 Glendora Drive, feels that the Council should fill the vacancy
by appointment and that the Council should appoint Sylvia Robles.
Mayor Pro Tem Garcia, stated that she appreciates all of the comments that have
been made this evening and respects the views of everyone. She stated that she will
work with whoever fills the vacant seat and will work with her colleagues.
Councilmember Sandoval, stated that the Council needs to make a decision. He does
not feel comfortable spending $30,000.00 with the current budget that we have. He
feels that there are far better ways to spend that amount of money that would benefit
everyone.
Councilmember McNaboe, stated that the easy thing would be to appoint someone
to fill the vacancy and if cost were the only mitigating factor then we would say we
would save money by not appointing. We could save stipends, health insurance
reimbursement, car allowance and staff time. The cheapest option, if we are going
to go by cost, is to say don't fill it at all. However, she doesn't feel that this is what
the community wants. She has had a number of people contact her and say that they
want to vote. She stated that for anyone who believes that her agenda is served by
putting this to a vote has to realize that she doesn't have any control over who fills
that seat. There is not an agenda there. She stated that she found a couple of
organizations that provide grants for City's that want to become transparent in the
way that they do business. She stated that there are opportunities to fund technology
through grants. People aren't willing to fund elections where people have the
opportunity to stand up and vote for who they want to vote for because they believe
that it is a basic function of government. $30,000.00 to $50,000.00 is a lot of money,
people here tonight are telling the Council to appoint but there are those that have
contacted her that say they want an election. She feels that it is truly a divided
community. They can't make everybody happy no matter which choice they choose.
Mayor Stanckiewitz, stated that there are things coming up that need to be taken care
of and don't know what the costs will be. The future is unknown. He feels that the
Council really needs to consider the money when making this decision. The people
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elected them to make these decisions.
Mayor Pro Tern Garcia, feels that trust is very important. She feels that it will be
almost impossible to agree with one independent person. She stated that the four of
them could govern the City.
Councilmember Sandoval, feels that it is the Council's responsibility and due
diligence to find someone that they can compromise on. He feels that they can come
together and make a decision.
Councilmember McNaboe, questioned what the appointment process would be.
Ci1y Clerk Brenda Mesa, responded that what has been done in the past is that Staff
solicits applications from interested individuals and held public interviews are
conducted in order to make a selection.
Councilmember McNaboe, questioned how the voting was done.
City Clerk Mesa, responded that in the past each council member would rank each
individual and then based on that ranking system a nomination would be made. 0
City Attorney John Harper, stated that the Council can do the process the way that
they want to. He indicated that ultimately the person who will get appointed is the
one that has the majority vote.
Mayor Pro Tern Garcia, stated that the City of Grand Terrace is very unique and has
a very engaged community. There is a likely hood that those who want the Council
to make an appointment won't be happy with the appointment process. She too
would rather not spend the money on an election and have the Council make an
appointment. She is ok not making an appointment and having the four council
members govern the City.
Mayor Stanckiewitz, feels that it is important to have five members on the Council.
Mayor Pro Tern Garcia, building relationships takes time and she wants the
community to begin healing and she feels that whether they make an appointment or
have an election there are going to be unhappy people. She stated that all of the
Council Members want what is best for the entire community. She feels if there is
a winner half of the community will be unhappy. She stated that if the Council does
not want to spend the money on the election then they should govern the City with
the four council members and show the community that the Council can come to a
consensus.
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Councilmember McNaboe, questioned if the Council feels that if there was an
appointment process that three of the four of them could decide on an individual.
Mayor Pro Tem. Garcia, responded in the negative.
Councilmember McNaboe, questioned if there was harm in trying.
CounciImember Sandoval, questioned if they chose to appoint and they dead lock on
the appointment are there any legal ramifications.
City Attorney Harper, stated that they would just be where they are now and that it
would be too late to call an election.
Councilmember McNaboe, clarified that if the Council moves forward with the
appointment process and they don't choose someone it will be too late to call a
special election.
City Attorney Hamer, responded in the affirmative.
Councilmember Sandoval, feels that the Council needs to make a decision. You
can't make everyone happy. As long as people know that their convictions are to do
what is right they will understand.
City Manager Adams, stated that there are two options to do a mail ballot vote. One
would be May and one would be in August.
City Clerk Mesa, stated that the Council has to decide what they want to do within
30 days by law and that date is January 13, 2011. If they decide to do a mail ballot
in May the deadline is January 9, 2011.
Mayor Pro Tern Garcia, stated that she is proceeding with extreme caution.
Mayor Stanckiewitz, stated that they have been elected to make decisions and there
will always be people that don't like their decisions but feels they have a job to do.
The people elected the Council to make decisions and making no decision is telling
the community that the Council is not capable of making a decision.
Councilmember Sandoval, stated that the Council makes the best decisions that they
can with the information at hand and stick by them. He will not be able to make
everyone happy.
Mayor Pro Tern Garcia, asked the Council if their decision will be impacted by
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public opinion.
Councimember Sandoval, stated that they need to make a decision based on who they
feel is the right person for the job.
CC-2010-101 MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER SANDOVAL, SECOND BY MAYOR
STANCKIEWITZ, CARRIED 3-1-0-0 (MAYOR PRO TEM GARCIA VOTED
NO), to fill the Council Vacancy by Appointment.
3. Appointments to Various Regional Government Organizations
It was the consensus of the Council to appoint the following individuals to represent the City of
Grand Terrace as follows:
Organization
Representative
Alternate
Scheduled Meetings
Stipend
Omnitrans (Board of
Lee Ann Garcia
Darcy McNaboe
I" Wednesday of each
Yes
Directors)
month at 8:00 a.m.
Southern California
Lee Ann Garcia
Darcy McNaboe
May of each year
No
Association of Governments
General AssumbIy (SCAG)
San Bernardino Valley Water
Darcy McNaboe
Betsy M. Adams
Typically 3' or 4'
No
District Advisory
Thursday at 7:00 p.m.
Commission on Water
League of California Cities
Walt Stanckiewitz
Lee Ann Garcia
l" Thursday of every
No
Inland Empire Division
other month 6:30 p.m.
San Bernardino Associated
Walt Stanckiewitz
Lee Ann Garcia
l" Wednesday of each
Yes
Governments Board of
month at 9:00 a.m.
Directors (SANBAG)
and 2id Thursday of
every month at 9:00
a.m. for Major
Projects Committee
San Bernardino County Solid
Darcy McNaboe
Betsy M. Adams
Semi-annual
No
Waste Task Force
(ApriI/October)
Wednesday or
Thursday I:30 p.m.
California Joint Powers
Walt Stanckiewitz
Betsy M. Adams
July of each year
No
Insurance Authority (Board
of Directors)
San Bernardino County Gang
Bernardo Sandoval
Darcy McNaboe
1" Wednesday of each
No
& Drug Task Force
month 7:30 a.m.
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Mayor Stanckiewitz adjourned the meeting at 7:58 p.m., until the next regular City Council Meeting
which is scheduled to be held on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 at 6:00 p.m.
CITY CLERK of the City of Grand Terrace
MAYOR of the City of Grand Terrace