01/15/2009CITY OF GRAND TERRACE
CITY COUNCIL MINUTES
JOINT WORKSHOP
CITY COUNCIL & PLANNING COMMISSION
JANUARY 15, 2009
A joint workshop of the City Council and Planning Commission of the City of Grand Terrace was
called to order in the Council Chambers, Grand Terrace Civic Center, 22795 Barton Road, Grand
Terrace, California, on January 15, 2009, at 6:00 p.m.
PRESENT: Maryetta Ferrd, Mayor
Lee Ann Garcia, Mayor Pro Tem
Bea Cortes, Councilmember
Jim Miller, CounciImember
Walt Stanckiewitz, Councilmember
Doug Wilson, Chairman
Matthew Addington, Vice -Chairman
Tom Comstock, Commissioner
Brian Phelps, Commissioner
Darcy McNaboe, Commissioner
Brenda Mesa, City Clerk
Steve Berry, Acting City Manager
Joyce Powers, Community & Economic Development Director
Richard Shields, Building & Safety Director
Sandra Molina, Senior Planner
ABSENT:
Tom Schwab, City Manager
Bernard Simon, Finance Director
John Harper, City Attorney
Lt. Mike Newcombe, San Bernardino County Sheriff s Department
John Salvate, San Bernardino County Fire Department
The Joint Workshop between the City Council and the Planning Commission was opened with the
Pledge of Allegiance led by Commissioner Tom Comstock.
CONVENE PUBLIC JOINT WORKSHOP
PUBLIC COMMENT
Rita Schwark, 21952 Grand Terrace Road, stated that she lives on the west side of the
freeway. She stated that the City already has two large trailer courts in her area and if the
City is mandated or has to put housing in she would prefer upper class homes. She feels that
the City does not need anymore trailer parks or apartments. She stated that the traffic in that
area is getting unbearable.
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Charles Hornsby 22656 Brentwood Street, stated that he supports the Planning Commission
remaining at 7:00 p.m. He suggested having staff members that have to go to the Planning
Commission meetings come in late on the meeting days that way there is no additional costs
involved, if the time change is due to budgetary reasons. He feels that the City should have
a budget workshop soon encouraging all the members of the public to come in and see where
all of the money goes. He feels that if we can't pay for the special events, we shouldn't have
them.
ITEM # 1 - DRAFT GENERAL PLAN HOUSING ELEMENT
Joyce Powers, Community and Economic Development Director, expressed her appreciation
for the City Council and Planning Commission participating in the Workshop. She stated
that this workshop is one of many to get us to the point of approving the General Plan. The
current Housing Element has now expired. We are required to be updated as part of the
General Plan. In addition to that, we are also required to have the Housing Element certified
by the State Department of Housing and Community Development (HCD). They have met
with staff and reviewed the drafts, their comments are included in the information provided
to the Council and Commission. She stated that Sandra Molina, Senior Planner has prepared
the presentation and will be sharing it with the Council and Commission. She feels that at
the end of the presentation the Council and Commission will have a good idea of the
decisions points that still need to be done, which are very few. Staff will spell out what is
required to be included in the Housing Element, where the Regional Housing Needs
Assessment numbers come from, which is completed by HCD. They tell all of the cities and
counties what their requirements are. HCD also puts out information on the income limits
to qualify for housing in certain income ranges, staff will go over that briefly as well. Once
the presentation has concluded staff will be happy to take comments from the Council,
Commission and general public. At the very end staff will be discussing some
recommendations to look at parcels that are already zoned for multi -family housing and how
that could assist the City in meeting the requirements of the State. In addition to that, the
City also has some single family projects that have been discussed that could also qualify to
meet that final number.
Sandra Molina, Senior Planner, indicated that this is workshop number 15, the Commission
has had a series of workshops in 2007 and 2008. We are very happy to have the Council and
the Commission discussing this very important element this evening. The first workshop that
was held with the Commission in 2007 was a brief, generalized overview of housing element
law. There was a review of the Draft Housing Element, which was a more in depth
workshop with the Commission in April of 2007. That draft was sent to HCD and they sent
the City a comment letter. An internal draft was generated, where staff responded to the
comment letter and met with them in November of 2008 and based upon that meeting staff
has generated another internal draft, which has been provided to the Council and
Commission for discussion. She indicated that she provided zoning maps for the Council
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and Commission to review potential sites. Handouts were also provided on density
information on existing multi -family projects. The Housing Element and what is to be
included in it is outlined by State Law. Part of that is a review of the progress of the prior
Housing Element, an assessment of housing needs and an inventory of resources and
constraints. Based upon that assessment, we then come up with a housing program. The
way our element is broken down into three bold action statements and then there is a series
of programs to implement those actions. They also quantify how many housing units based
on those programs they anticipate constructed within the planning period.
Our Regional Housing Needs Assessment is based upon an allocation that is given to us by
the Southern California Association of Governments (SCAG). This is a regional assessment
that is broken down to county and cities. We need to accommodate our fair share allocation
and SCAG has indicated that for us, during this planning period is 329 housing units. These
units are mixed up to accommodate different housing income groups. The 329 is broken up
as follows:
Regional Housing Need Assessment 2006-2014
Income Level
RHNA Target
Very Low
80
Low
55
Moderate
63
Upper
131
Total
329
This is based upon the median income for Riverside and San Bernardino Counties. The
median income for a family of four is $59,200.00. Staff has provided a synopsis of what they
felt the remaining issues are with the HCD. One of the things that HCD wanted them to do
was broaden the public participation efforts. Staff has done that with this joint workshop,
especially since it is a joint workshop and we are looking at making some policy decisions.
Staff placed advertisement in the San Bernardino County Sun, posted it on the website and
posted it at our usual posting locations. Staff took a further step by sending it out to local
organizations and charities that would have an interest in housing. HCD wanted staff to
reassess the Viability of identified sites in the R-2 and R-3 zone districts that were identified
to accommodate housing units. Part of the Housing Element is to go back and identify either
vacant sites or underutilized sites within the city that could accommodate additional housing
units. One of the concerns that HCD expressed was that we are a small community, we are
primarily built out and many of our R-2 and R-3 zoned districts are smaller Iots and
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technically we are meeting the requirements of the law, however, how practical is it for a
smaller lot to accommodate three or four more units. Staff was asked to focus on the larger
lots. She indicated that there is a provision in the Government Code that says that you can't
have a no net loss provision, which basically says that if we have an R-3 zoned parcel and
it accommodates 20 units and we decide for whatever reason to improve it with 10 units, we
have essentially lost 10 units and the law says where are those 10 units going to be made up
at. Staff went back and re -assessed and made modifications to the element to address their
concern. The most significant continent that was made by HCD was that the City is
technically meeting the provisions of the law and they see that the City can accommodate
the 329 units that have been allocated, however, they want the City to take it a step further.
HCD focuses on meeting the lower income groups. The senior housing project will
accommodate 108 of the lower income households. Our allocation is 135 so the difference
is 27. They are saying identify for them sites that would accommodate those 27. They are
not saying you have to build it, they are saying show us the sizes, zone it under density that
would make it more encouraging for higher density development and then you will be
meeting the requirements. They stated that there were a couple of ways to do this. One
option is to change the density to 20 units per acre or we can establish some type of
affordable housing overlay. The affordable housing overlay would only come into play when
an affordable housing project is being proposed on a particular parcel that has an overlay.
Staff feels that it is in the community's better interest to ensure that if we are going to
provide the density we are going to get the units that we need, staff is recommending the
overlay. Staff went through an exercise of identifying potential properties that could have
an overlay. We would like to focus our efforts on this and possibly get some policy direction
from Council and Commission. She indicated that the City owns a small 0.63 acre parcel
near the Highland Apartments and that it has the potential to accommodate 7 to 12 units.
Because this property is owned by the City, staff feels that this is one of the best
opportunities to create affordable housing. Other potential parcels include approximately
2.48 acres on Grand Terrace Road j ust north of Grand Terrace Mobile Home Park. This site
can accommodate 29 to 49 units (site A). A 1.47 acre parcel site at the southwest corner of
Vivienda and LaCrosse Avenue can accommodate 29 units (site B). A 1.03 acre parcel on
the northeast corner of Van Buren Street and the Gage Canal which could possibly include
an adjacent 0.38 acre parcel if they are assembled could accommodate 16 to 20 units (site Q.
There is a 1.04 acre parcel on the north side of Van Buren Street west of Mount Vernon
Avenue, which could accommodate 12-20 units (site D). HCD has asked staff to potentially
identify sites that could accommodate the 27 units. The properties that are shown and
recommended for potential overlay could in theory support more than 27 units, however,
staff is not saying that all of them will be developed. We are identifying sites that could
potentially accommodate affordable housing, however, there are other programs in the works
that could take an existing single family home and acquire that and improve it and make it
available for lower income households. We anticipate that those 27 units that HCD is
concerned with will also be made up during the Housing Element Program years through
single family housing. Staff is recommending that the Council and Commission direct staff
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to create/establish an affordable housing overlay district that would only come into play for
affordable housing at a higher density should a project come in that staff feels will meet that
27 units and direct staff to forward the Housing Element Draft based upon this direction to
HCD.
Chair Wilson, questioned what the net housing would be if an affordable housing overlay is
established.
Senior Planner Molina, responded that it would depend on the density. She indicated that
it would satisfy HCD's request. She indicated that the draft will be forwarded to HCD and
that they will be amenable to certifying it, however, they won't certify it until it goes through
the process and it is ultimately adopted by the Council. As part of the General Plan Update,
you will see this draft as well as the other elements go through the Commission hearing
process and ultimately to the City Council process. She recommends that the Council and
the Commission open the workshop up for discussion and questions. She stated that staff
is anticipating having a workshop on the Land Use Element next month.
Chair Wilson, stated that he realizes that we are talking about establishing a mean density
somewhere between 12 and 20, their default being 20 and out at this point a cap of 12, but
in order to be able to accommodate the affordable housing we are probably looking at a 14
density and that is usually what most high density developers are able to accommodate. His
concern is that if we identify these areas and satisfy the condition for the Housing Element,
how are we going to condition the appeasement in order to make these sites financially
feasible. Ordinarily they are housed in a PUD or a special plan area that allows clustering
or irregular parcel considerations, etc. It would seem to him that it would be necessary for
us to have that in our pocket before we do this.
Senior Planner Molina. responded that staff has started to have discussion with affordable
housing developers. The discussions have included exactly what Chair Wilson has
mentioned. A lot of things come into play as far as the financial feasibility of an affordable
housing project, land costs, shape, topography, development standards, set -backs, what type
of aesthetic look and height are all considered. What HCD is looking for is that we provide
the density absent of any other incentives, density bonuses, etc. There is State law that says
that if you are going to provide affordable housing units you can have development
incentives provided to you in an effort to make the affordable housing project more feasible.
There would be programs in place coupled with State Housing Law incentives to make the
site more viable for affordable housing projects.
0 Chair Wilson, indicated that he would like to participate in any of the side bar discussion that
pertain to affordable housing. He expressed his concern with the infield sites and the special
sensitivity that they will have.
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Commissioner McNaboe, requested clarification on the overlay option. If an overlay is
applied to these areas and a project goes in that is not affordable housing will the City be
penalized for not building affordable hosing.
Senior Planner Molina, responded that we would not be penalized.
Charles Hornsby, 22656 Brentwood Street, questioned staff if when the word affordable is
used does it always mean government subsidized. He stated that Planning Commissions and
City Councils tend to make a lot of decisions about what they are going to do with
neighborhoods where they don't live. He feels that all of the affordable housing has been
placed in certain areas. All of the members of the Planning Commission and City Council
should come up with affordable housing in the areas where there currently is none.
Rita Schwark, 21952 Grand Terrace Road, stated that none of her neighbors or herself
received any notification regarding this meeting.
Darryl Moore, 22750 Minona, stated that there is no way that a 10 units per acre project
would be feasible. What he feels constitutes good planning for attached units is 14 units per
acres for condos or town homes and 18 to 20 for apartments.
Senior Planner Molina, stated that this is a workshop and it is not a public hearing for a
proposed zone change. We are talking about potential sites. After we receive direction staff
will move forward with that process. Staff did not do noticing as if we were doing a zone
change. Staff notified only those individuals whose properties we talked about this evening.
Community and Economic Development Director Powers, indicated that she would like to
address the affordability and feasibility that Mr. Moore talked about. She stated that in the
moderate medium range typically you don't see assistance, those are usually built by the
market. The categories that staff is talking about is low and very low income ranges, which
are typically assisted and that is why we have our low to moderate housing set -aside fund.
Those are the funds that we used to assist the senior project and would probably recommend
assistance on the Canal street property through the low and moderate income housing set -
aside fund. In addition to that the experienced affordable housing developers typically are
able to pull together various funding mechanisms such as State and Federal Tax Credits,
Home Funds and in some cases CDBG fiends. She is familiar with those funding sources and
she is able to address that with any potential developers.
Mayor Pro Tern Garcia, questioned when this document will go through the public hearing
process and how does it work.
Senior Planner Molina, responded that if the document is certified by HCD and changes are
made after staff would keep them apprised of the changes especially if they are substantive.
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They may rescind the certification and re-evaluate.
Mayor Pro Tern Garcia, questioned what the notification will be for the public hearing
process.
Senior Planner Molina, responded that there are statutory requirements that we have to meet.
Then there is what we choose to do beyond that. Because this is a General Plan Update, the
law says that we can publish a I `8 of a page legal ad and post. The Council or the
Commission can ask that staff go above and beyond that and do other outreach efforts or
focused areas.
Mayor Pro Tem Garcia, stated that she really likes that staff chose the overlay and that it is
an incentive based program and that it will be held to the high standards of development that
we require. She thanked staff for their efforts.
Chair Wilson, asked a question of staff but cut off by end of tape.
Community and Economic Development Director Powers, responded that this can be
achieved over the plan period. In addition to the multi -unit projects we are also looking at
some single family projects, such as the acquisition program that we have been talking about.
Staff has made a couple of offers on property. She feels very confident that we can make a
good dent in the 27 without necessarily building one large multi -family project.
Commissioner Comstock, stated that staff mentioned excluding the Barton Road Specific
Plan and he knows that it has been within the last year that the Planning Commission has had
some discussions regarding some of the projects that are going on in town. He hasn't seen
any mixed use residential in the Town Square project and is unsure about the Grand
Crossings project. There were some discussions about the feasibility issues on putting some
mixed use residential in that project and that was the desire when putting together the Barton
Road Specific Plan to try and cut the emissions and be more environmentally friendly. If the
developer were to provide some low -mod housing in the Grand Crossings project, would we
be able to satisfy some of our numbers.
Community and Economic Development Director Powers, responded in the affirmative.
Councilmember Cortes, stated that as of January 1, 2009, our S13375 took into effect and that
means that every city in the State of California has to fulfill the RENA requirements and we
only have 31 f2 years to complete this program. Were not just doing this because we want
to, it is required.
It was the consensus of the City Council and the Planning Commission for staff to proceed
with preparing the "affordable housing" overlay zone and moving forward with the draft
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Housing Element program so that staff can review it with HCD prior to being incorporated
into the General Plan.
Mayor Ferrd adjourned the meeting at 6:59 p.m., until the next City Council Meeting which is
scheduled to be held on Tuesday, January 27, 2009 at 6:00 p.m.
CITY CLERK of the City of Grand Terrace
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