07/14/1988CITY OF GRAND TERRACE
CITY COUNCIL MINUTES
REGULAR MEETING - JULY 14, 1988
A regular meeting of the City Council of the City of Grand Terrace was called
to order in the Council Chambers, Grand Terrace Civic Center, 22795 Barton
Road, Grand Terrace, California, on July 14, 1988, at 5:35 p.m.
PRESENT: Byron Matteson, Mayor
Barbara Pfennighausen, Mayor Pro Tem
Hugh J. Grant, Councilmember
Dennis Evans, Councilmember
Susan Shirley, Councilmember
Thomas J. Schwab, City Manager/Finance Director
Randy Anstine, Assistant City Manager
David Sawyer, Community Development Director
Juanita Brown, Deputy City Clerk
John Harper, City Attorney
Joe Kicak, City Engineer
ABSENT: None
The meeting was opened with invocation by Mr. Tony Petta, followed by the
Pledge of Allegiance led by Boy Scouts Chris McMasters and Scott Gibson.
ITEMS TO DELETE
None.
City Manager Schwab stated that since Public
Participation was inadvertently left off of the Agenda,
it should be added after the Consent Calendar.
SPECIAL PRESENTATION
Mayor read a proclamation to Ivan Hopkins, Grand
Terrace City Attorney from 1978 to 1988.
CONSENT CALENDAR
CC-88-146 MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM PFENNIGHAUSEN, SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER
EVANS, CARRIED 5-0, to approve the Consent Calendar with the
removal of Item A -- Approval of Check Register No. 071488 and
Item E -- AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF GRAND
TERRACE ADDING SECTION 8.112 TO GRAND TERRACE MUNICIPAL CODE TO
PROHIBIT THE SALE OF REPLICA FIREARMS.
B. RATIFY JULY 14, 1988 CRA ACTION
C. WAIVE FULL READING OF ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS ON
AGENDA
D. APPROVE MINUTES OF: JUNE 13, 1988; JUNE 14, 1988
AND JUNE 15, 1988.
F. A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF
GRAND TERRACE ESTABLISHING THE APPROPRIATIONS LIMIT
FOR PROCEEDS OF TAXES FOR THE CITY OF GRAND TERRACE
FOR FISCAL YEAR 1988/89 AT $2,083,510.
G. AWARD OF ANNUAL STREET & STORM DRAIN MAINTENANCE
CONTRACT.
H. AGREEMENT TO DEFER PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS ON
MOBILE HOME DISPLAY LOT LOCATED AT 12028 LA CROSSE.
I. AUTHORIZATION TO GO TO BID FOR BARTON ROAD
IMPROVEMENTS.
J. AWARD OF ANNUAL STREET SWEEPING SERVICES CONTRACT.
K. RESOLUTION TO ADOPT REGULATIONS FOR CANDIDATES FOR
ELECTIVE OFFICE PERTAINING TO CANDIDATE STATEMENTS.
L. RESOLUTION RESCINDING RESOLUTION NO. 80-52 AND
APPOINTING JOHN R. HARPER AS CITY ATTORNEY.
M. SOLICITING PERMIT APPLICATION - TEEN CHALLENGE.
ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR FOR DISCUSSION
A. ADDroval of Check Reqister No. 071488.
Councilmember Grant asked for clarification
regarding Travel Time Tours, Caribbean Cruise.
City Manager Schwab explained that the Recreation
Department this year, in conjunction with several
other communities, was offering a Caribbean cruise,
individuals have made deposits to the City for the
cruise and we are now transmitting those funds to
the travel agency.
Councilmember Grant questioned Item 18659
Azuza-Pacific University and 18660 University of
Southern California.
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City Manager Schwab explained that the Tour de Terrace
sponsored two scholarships and the individuals who won
the scholarships will be attending those colleges.
Therefore, $500.00 is being forwarded to each of these
colleges.
Councilmember Grant referenced Item 18770, County of
San Bernardino Weed Control and Weed Abatement,
$3,526.00, and asked if they were abating the weeds.
City Manager Schwab replied that the bulk of the cost
is for the spraying along the parkway and abatement of
weeds as you come up Barton Road and along Mt. Vernon.
Councilmember Grant referenced Item P5745 and asked who
is attending the CEPO Conference.
City Manager Schwab explained that CEPO is an
organization affiliated with the City Clerk's
Association. It's continuing education towards
obtaining a City Clerk's certification and that is
training that Nita will be attending, he believed in
August.
Councilmember Grant reference Item 18739, MMASC, and
asked if that stood for Municipal Managers Association
of Southern California.
City Manager Schwab replied it's Municipal Management
Assistants of Southern California, which is a
membership for the Assistant City Manager and the
Community Development Director.
Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen referenced Item 18736,
amount for legal services for April, 1988. She
explained that she had no objections in approving this,
but would like to see a breakdown of what it is for.
City Manager Schwab replied had the Council not pulled
the Check Register, he would have pulled it himself,
explaining for accounting purposes, they needed to get
this on to get it into the proper fiscal year, but he
was going to have this item pulled so that we could
review it with the City Attorney because there was a
few items we had questions about.
CC-88-147 MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM PFENNIGHAUSEN, SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER
GRANT, CARRIED 5-0, to approve the Check Register minus Item 18736.
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PUBLIC PARTICIPATION
Item E -- A Resolution of the City Council of the City
of Grand Terrace adding Section 8.112 to the Grand
Terrace Municipal ode to prohibit the sale of replica
firearms.
Councilmember Shirley stated that she agrees with the
concept, but felt it is an unenforceable law and is
meaningless because it only goes to the City limits.
She felt f we are going to have a law like this, it
should at least be Statewide in order to be a viable
law. Since she does not agree with meaningless laws
that aren't enforceable, she could not support this.
She felt it may be more beneficial to adopt a
Resolution.
Mayor Matteson concurred explaining there is a State
Law pending to take care of that.
Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen explained that there is
legislation pending in Sacramento that would make it
illegal to sell replica firearms any place within the
State. She stated that the majority of cities that
have considered an Ordinance of this sort are hanging
loose to see what legislation is going to bring forth
and for that reason, she felt we need to wait and would
also not support it.
Councilmember Grant stated that he agreed with Mr.
Rollins' original statement when he brought this before
Council and felt if nothing more than a symbolic
gesture showing the desire of this Council, it would be
well worth approving this Ordinance.
Councilmember Evans stated that as a law enforcement
officer he could see a real need for some type of
legislation to control this type of problem and agreed
that the problem is essentially an unenforceable
Ordinance as long as it's local. He stated that
although it may be symbolic in nature, somewhere along
the line we have to start resolving very serious
problems and felt that the legislation that is pending
will take care of it.
Dick Rollins, 22700 DeBerry Street, mentioned the need
or more citizen patrol volunteers and commended the
San Bernardino Police Department for the professional
job they did two weeks and on the response time after
receiving a 911 call regarding an accident on DeBerry
Street involving two youngsters who were injured when
they rode out in front of a pickup camper.
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ORAL REPORTS
Dick Yost, President of the Chamber of Commerce, stated
that y 28, 1988, the Grand Terrace Terra Loma Real
Estate owned by Mr. Gene Calstrom, President elect of
the Board, is hosting a ribbon cutting and a open mixer
on July 28, 1988 at 5:00 p.m. and the public is
invited.
Tony Petta, 11875 Eton Drive, commended City Attorney
Hopkins for the excellent job he has done for our
City. He stated this month we celebrate the 212
birthday of our Country and gave a few words to remind
us of our freedom.
Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen expressed her feelings
regarding remembering important things such as our
country's 212 birthday and asked the Historical
Activities Cultural Committee if we couldn't get
something on the 212 birthday of our country, something
that symbolizes America.
Councilmember Grant mentioned that last year Mr. Petta
made a similar stimulating and inspiring presentation
to the people of this community and expressed his
feelings regarding Mr. Petta and his comments, hoping
that he does the same thing next year and for years to
come.
Mayor Matteson felt that what made it so special was
because Mr. Petta had come from another country and he
can really see it, indicating if you have traveled
abroad, you really know how wonderful this country is.
Councilmember Evans reported that while on vacation he
had the opportunity to travel through the areas that
were the founding areas of this country, feeling anyone
who has never visited those areas should do so because
it brings a sense of unity.
A. Committee Reports
1. Emergency Operations Committee
Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen shared her concerns
regarding the emergency plan and the completion date.
She pointed out that the EOC has been working on this
plan for about three years and if they needed some help
or information to let Council know, feeling that a plan
on paper is no good, it must be exercised. She felt a
lot has been done, but was concerned that we are not
ready. She wanted to know if they have managed to put
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together their master list of resources throughout the
community and wanted to see the inventory of the
equipment and get at least some idea as to when the
plan was going to come before Council for approval so
we can begin to exercise the components.
Mayor Matteson suggested setting up a workshop with the
EOC and getting involved.
Councilmember Grant concurred with Mayor Pro Tem
Pfennighausen's statements, stating a plan is only as
good as its implementation and felt that Council and
City Staff have a prime responsibility for assisting
the members of this Committee.
Councilmember Evans felt if the committee does need
help, it is imperative that staff start spending more
time in this area and try to coordinate. He felt staff
needs to take a look at some practical exercises and
put them into operation as to what it is we are going
to do.
A. Council Reports
Councilmember Shirley, reported attending the Omnitrans
Board meeting and the San Bernardino Associated
Governments Board meeting as an alternate. She
reported receiving complaints regarding the service at
our library regarding getting books ordered from the
other libraries in our County.
City Manager Schwab, replied he had not heard of that
complaint, but knew for a fact that many staff members
have ordered books from any place in the system. He
suggested having this person contact him and he could
find out what the problem is.
Tony Petta, stated that the library has a microfiche
file for books that are available anywhere in the
library system. He shared an incident where he came to
the library and requested three or four different books
which was not in this library and in a matter of days
he received a call from Jim Moore to come and pick the
books up. He stated that they are available in this
system here.
Councilmember Grant, stated that he encouraged the
Omnitrans Board and the County Transportation
Commission to look into the feasibility of expanding an
Omnitrans route within Grand Terrace. He concurred
with the remarks made regarding Mr. Hopkins' 10-years
with our community and wished him the best. He asked 0
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for a concensus on starting the Council meetings one
half hour later. He questioned the status on the
independent market located at the corner of Barton Road
and Mt. Vernon.
City Manager Schwab explained that originally there was
a company from the L.A. or Orange County area who was
going to open up a small market. They painted the
building and started to do some improvements and the
City informed them that they needed to come down and
get a business license. Approximately two weeks after
that, they left the area leaving a lot of their
equipment outside which we had to take away. He stated
that it is still owned by the individuals in Los
Angeles and is available for lease.
Councilmember Grant stated that the City Attorney,
City Manager and his colleagues on the Council have
suggested not appealing the decision of the Superior
Court of the Forest City Dillion Phase II Project, and
then shared his feelings regarding the appeal and
explained that the period which to appeal has already
run its course. Knowing it's not on the Agenda, he
hoped that Council would in some way indicate their
feelings on this and this feeling would be transferred
to the City Manager and to the City Attorney to proceed
posthaste with an appeal.
Mayor Matteson asked City Attorney Harper if he had a
chance to read over the lawsuit and the decision and
asked what would our chances would be of winning if we
filed an appeal.
City Attorney Harper replied very briefly, but have
reviewed all of the documents and petitions where the
mandate was granted. He felt our chances would be
extremely small. He explained what the Court of
Appeals process is. He indicated it would appear,
although it is somewhat difficult to tell from the
pleading, the basis for the courts decision. He felt
it was the combination of approving the financing and
adopting Phase I. This would allow the developer to
rely upon justifiably the fact that Phase II would be
approved and when he relied justifiably he therefore
got some vested rights, which this Council does not
have the ability to affect. Under the assumption that
that is the basis for the courts decision, the chance
of the ruling being overturned is very slim.
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Mayor Matteson concurred with Councilmember Grant and
expressed his feelings regarding the apartments. He
stated if we lose the appeal, they are going to file
for damages. He stated that based on the information
from the attorney's, he felt it comes a time when we
have to accept what is there go ahead with what we
have. He added that if there is any consolation, they
have agreed to put in garages and have done away with
studio apartments.
Councilmember Shirley concurred with what has been
said.
Tong Petta, stated that it appears that when a judge is
trying to determine who receives what, he would have to
determine the intent of the party.
City Attorney Harper stated based upon what he has
reviewed, he did not feel that the intent of any party
entered into the court's decision. The court
essentially looked at the contractual documents, and
based upon that, decided that the action of Council to
initially approve the financing and what it said and
the action to approve Phase I was sufficient to compel
the Council, at least in some form, to approve
Phase II.
Tony Petta In order that we understand the course of the events,
so that the people also understand the course of
events, because we've had a number of public hearings
where people came here in droves and the people left
here with a certain understanding and now that
understanding is no longer so and most of the people
don't know at this point exactly what happened or where
we are. So that in order to bring the picture into
prospective, it appears to me we need to review what
happened from the beginning. The beginning was the
time that the whole block, came for a rezoning to R-3,
which was a number of years ago. When that happened,
the people came to the public hearings and they had
many concerns. Those concerns revolved around the
density of the area; it revolved around the size of the
units; it revolved around the congestion that would
result on Mt. Vernon; it revolved around the horrendous
conditions that would result down at the so called
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Jap Hill; there were concerns about the impaction
that all of these apartments would have on Mt.
Vernon. At that time, the Council and the
developer convinced the public that were here at
the public hearing that those concerns that they
had would be adequately addressed at the time that
the developer submitted his Conditional Use Permit
and his Specific Plan. Now, I must assure that we
understand that when the zone was changed from
residential to R-3, that change permitted the
developer to build 9-units per acre, no more, until
such a time as a developer submitted to the
Planning Commission and then to the City Council a
Conditional Use Permit and a Specific Plan and
through these public hearings, the developer was
allowed to submit his case so that the people,
Planning Commission and the City Council could then
address, yes, more than 9-units per acre or no,
9-units per acre would stand. Now, that has to be
clear because on a number of occasions there has
been comments from members of this Council that the
problem resulted when the zone change took place.
That is not when the problem resulted, the problem
resulted subsequent to that action. Lets talk
about Phase I, eventually the developer came to the
Planning Commission and submitted a Conditional Use
Permit and a Specific Plan for 248 units for
approval, the Planning Commission had grave
concerns about this project in reference to
density; primarily, size of the units; parking; the
horrendous impaction upon Mt. Vernon; the
bottleneck on the so called Jap Hill. These are
all of the concerns expressed by the people
initially when the zone was first changed. The
people were told that at the time of the
Conditional Use Permit and the Specific Plan, those
concerns would be addressed. So, the Planning
Commission was addressing those same concerns that
the people were addressing initially and as a
result of those concerns, the Planning Commission
rejected the Conditional Use Permit and the
Specific Plan without review. It is important that
I emphasize this, without review, without
addressing the conditions of the Specific Plan. I
have here Minutes of that particular occasion where
it says the Planning Commission denial was based on
inconsistencies in the Specific Plan; the proposed
development would be detrimental to the health,
safety, morals, comfort or general welfare of the
persons residing or working within the neighborhood
of the proposed use and the impact on the City's
infrastructure and circulation element.
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Recommended conducting the Public Hearing, then
determine whether to deny, approve or modify the
Conditional Use Permit and Specific Plan for return
to the Planning Commission for consideration. The
developer appealed this denial by the Planning
Commission to the City Council. At that particular
appeal the City Council considered essentially the
matter of density because that was a major problem
of the Planning Commission because density also
affects the traffic on Mt. Vernon. After
determining the matter of density, the Planning
Commission reverted this plan back to the Planning
Commission for consideration of the conditions of
the Specific Plan. It was at this point that the
developer objected to the Planning Commission's
review of the Specific Plan because the developer
said the City Council at the appeal already
approved our Conditional Use Permit and the
Specific Plan. Staff, City Engineer, City
Attorney, Planning Commission and City Council all
understood that we tackled the matter of density,
reverting the plan back to the Planning Commission
for the consideration of the conditions. All of us
understood that, but the developer prevailed what
we thought was to be so was not so, and as a result
of that, the developer received an approval of 248
units which are now under construction without the
benefit of review of conditions either by the
Planning Commission or the City Council. How did
we get to that point, and I must pinpoint certain
instances which are important in the determination
of how we got to that point. It's no secret, I
think we all know the two Council members who
supported these apartments vigorously with a
passion, continually attacked our staff, the
Planning Commission and even Council members.
Worked closely with developers, used privileged
information to undermine, and I must say this next
word, even sabotage the activities of this City
Council. Therefore, adversely attacking the well
being of the people of this City. These two
Council members continually met in private to
formulate plans, their plans, then used their power
as Council members to relentlessly apply pressure
upon the City Engineer, upon the Planning Director
and upon the City Attorney. Now, if you reference
it as Phase I, the same two Council members met
with these staff members that I have just mentioned
in private, and yes, behind closed doors, so as to
influence to support the apartments. This is an
illegal action, but they got away with it. Even at
the Council table through leading questions, 0
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pressured staff until they got the answers that
they wanted, this is all documented in the Minutes
and on video tape. We have all watched the
performance of these two individuals for pressing,
and I must use the word, not only our staff, but
the citizens of this community and when the people
expressed their opinions, at opened advertised
Public Hearings in reference to these apartments,
we all read in the newspapers, they were called
uninformed individuals, even, yes, mob ruled. Who
do you think benefited, surely not the people of
this City. And so to summarize this instance of
Phase I, the Planning Commission rejected it
without review; the developer appealed to the City
Council; the City Council resolved the density
problem; sent it back to the Planning Commission
for normal processing and review of conditions in
the Specific Plan and these conditions merely made
reference to the square footage of the units;
attached one -car garages; adequate parking and
landscaping. Everybody, staff, City Engineer,
Planning Director, the Planning Commission, the
City Attorney and the City Council felt that that
was normal procedure. However, the developer who
objected to the review said it's too late. Now,
the result is that we have a project that does not
meet the standards of our Ordinance. I think we
best all admit that those two Council members won a
victory. To close the loopholes so that this
didn't happen again, the City Council appointed an
Ad Hoc Committee to review Title 18 which made
reference to the Zoning Ordinance and to make
recommendations to the City Council. The makeup of
that Ad Hoc Committee was two Planning
Commissioners, two City Council members and two
citizens at large. And among the recommendation of
the Ad Hoc Committee was to set minimum standards
for apartments, a 1-bedroom unit no less than 800
sq. ft., 2-bedroom unit 1,000 sq. ft. and 3-bedroom
unit 1,200 sq. ft.; garages minimum 1-car attached;
minimum parking. Based on this recommendation, the
City Council enacted Ordinance 100 and 104
addressing these minimum standards which was lost
in Phase I, but timely for Phase II, so the City
Attorney informed the City Council. The reason for
this minimum standard is basically to alleviate the
impact that these projects would have on the
existing neighborhood. Why a minimum square
footage requirement, small units cater to
transients and population, essentially as opposed
to a stable family -oriented neighborhood, not in
conformity with our established neighborhoods.
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Why minimum parking, look at the DeBerry Apartments, 328
units, cars parked everywhere along the street, total
congestion and the area across the street does not
develop as yet. Wait until that area is developed,
where are you going to put the cars, people will park
wherever space is available and we don't want this here
on Mt. Vernon. Why minimum single -car attached garages,
generally apartments have a minimum of car space. The
garages may not be used to put cars in, but if they are
there, they will be used to put the belongings of the
individuals and they will not be all over the place.
Why minimum landscape, that's what makes a city
beautiful and a beautiful place in which you wish to
live. The City lost out on Phase I, now enter Phase II,
we were told we were in a timely manner, plenty of time,
Ordinance 100 and 104 in place, the minimum must be met,
so what happens. In July 1986, the developer went
before the Plannina Commission reauestino a variance of
Ordinance 100 and 104 which is the same ones we have
been talking about. The Planning Commission denied
waiving those conditions. On August 14, 1986, the
developer appealed the Planning Commission decision to
the City Council. In answer to questions by Council
members, City Attorney, Ivan Hopkins said and I quote
"the proposed project Mt. Vernon Villas Phase II came
after the adoption of Ordinance 100 & 104; the proposal
was not in compliance with the ordinance. If the appeal
is denied, the project is dead and would have to start
all over again. Council denied the appeal 3-2. Is that
project dead, not by a long shot. Since that time, on
separate occasions, the same two Council members
attempted to scuttle Ordinances 100 and 104. Each made
motions, seconded by the other to do away with those
ordinances. Each time the motion failed; vote was 3-2.
October 22, 1987, the same plan that was submitted to
the Planning Commission and then back to the City
Council came once again to the City Council. Again,
ignoring the City's minimum standard Ordinance, the
Council Chamber was full if you remember, that was the
night that a petition was signed by 1,100 people and was
submitted to the City Council and again the City Council
rejected the plan; was Phase II dead not by a long
shot. Remember the expressed anger of those two Council
members, I need go no further into that, but they did
vow to the people within the community that those
apartments would be built, we heard more than once.
Remember all the talk about affordable housing and about
legal action that would be taken, they made their
promise good. At the last Council meeting and again
here, by our new City Attorney, we were told that the
judge resolved that when the bond issue was approved,
Phase II was approved, is that right John.
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Mr. Harper Not quite, it was the combination of the bond issue
and the fairly explicit description of the
project which is contained in the bond issue
documents combined with the approval of the first
Specific Plan at the same time gave the developer
certain rights to build an apartment project
essentially the same as Phase I.
Mr. Petta You pointed out that the bond issue had an explicit
description of Phase II. Lets talk about the bond
issue. The developer is ready to build Phase I,
which was at that point declared approved.
Therefore, it was ready to finance Phase I.
However, the developer requested the City Council
to approve financing for Phase II also, since a
larger bond issue is more cost -effected. Phase II
it's true, was identified in the bond issue, and
because of that, the City Council asked our Bond
Council Attorney, George McFarlin questions. I
might point out that the developer was present when
this happened and he heard the questions, and the
questions of the City Council members that bond
attorney who is an expert in these manners were:
(1) How about Phase II, the answer by the bond
attorney, Phase II is a project that can happen,
but not necessarily. Phase II has to go through
the planning process as any other project.
Questioned by City Council members -- are we tied
to Phase II, Answer -- unqualified, no; the bond
money will be in the bank and if it is not used,
can be returned. City Council approved the bond
issue. Please note, that the bond attorney
represented the City Council and the developer.
The developer was present when this explanation
took place and offered no objection. The developer
went before the Planning Commission and twice
before the City Council and each time ignored City
ordinances and each time the project was denied. I
have an article here that was in the Sun Telegram
on July 27,1986, says apartment plan delayed for
revision. The developer last week sought approval
of the project's Specific Plan and Conditional Use
Permit that would allow a density of nearly 16
units an acre where only 9-units are allowed and
carports instead of garages. The first phase of
the apartment project consists of 248 units north
of the second phase's site. City Planning
Director, Joe Kicak, said the development may be
reconsidered by the Planning Commission when the
plans are revised. Why am I reading this, even the
developer didn't know that Phase II was approved
through the bond issue. Does that specify the
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intent of the developer and the City Council. How
could a judge find other than how the intent of the
parties was. This clearly substantiates that the
developer was well aware of the intent that the
bond issue was approved and to give automatic
approval approval of Phase II. Apparently the
developer did not know that Phase II received
approval with passage of the bond issue.
Otherwise, why go through all of these planning
processes with the Planning Commission and City
Council. Clearly the intent of both the developer
and the Planning Commission was that Phase II was
only a possibility after going through the planning
process. Otherwise, three members of this City
Council would not have voted for that bond issue.
We've spent a lot of time going through this
planning process. Time spent by staff, City
Engineer, City Attorney, Planning Director,
Planning Commission, City Council, hundreds of
hours and many thousands of dollars and then people
coming here for Public Hearings, was all of this an
exercise in futility. Is that government of the
people, by the people and for the people.
Mayor Matteson asked the City Attorney if that
changed his opinion.
City Attorney Harper replied, unfortunately no, I'm
sure that Mr. Petta, who was here throughout the
process is aware of what the intent of the parties
was and perhaps what he is reflecting is accurate.
Unfortunately, I expect that the court didn't
really try and reconstruct what the intent was
since it had documents to rely upon. I expect, and
again supposition on my part, that the court, if
this Council had of approved a Specific Plan, which
was in some way different than Phase I, I don't
think that either the Bond documents are the action
of the Council would have been overturned, but
there was something implicit in its initial
actions, which would require Council to approve at
least a substantially similar project to Phase I.
That is kind of the end of the story from where
Tony left off. I don't believe Council could have
changed the zoning and made the Specific Plan area
number two into industrial and expected that the
developer had some rights based upon earlier
actions to build some type of apartment complex and
again, supposition, but I expect that those type of
things the court weighed and took under submission
for quite a while.
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Mayor Pro Tem When all of this started tonight, I had determined
Pfennighausen that I wasn't going to speak to the issue. It was
my hope that the issue had become a non -issue.
You've been told that from the very beginning that
two members of this Council, and obviously I was
one of them, was crazy about apartments and wanted
overcrowded schools and wanted impacted streets and
wanted all of these terrible things. If that's
true, then I would suggest that you commit me to
Patton. Nobody would sit in this seat and want the
things you've been told I wanted. I have a problem
with that though and now call this to the attention
of Grand Terrace for two years that we live under a
system of law and based strictly on that system
that Mr. Petta so elegantly supported earlier this
evening, the warning was constantly there. I have
before me a voting record, I can tell you how many
times certain people voted on the apartment issue
to put apartments in and how many times they voted
against it. I'm not going to waste your time with
that because the apartments are going to be there
whether we like it or not. Some allegations were
made during the presentation that now make it
impossible for me to sit here and not respond to
this and hope this never has to be done again. I
am now going to read to you out of the bond
document, the project that Mr. Petta, Mr. Grant and
the rest of the Council members voted on that this
project was based on, and it's very simple, five
paragraphs. Mr. Petta made several remarks that
are totally untrue and he's aware that they are
untrue, but folks welcome to Campaign '88 because
that's exactly what you are seeing here tonight.
Mr. Petta eluded to the fact that either I or and I
assume tnat ne is talKing about uounclimember
Evans, or the combination of the two of us, held
illegal meetings with the staff members. Now, the
only thing that would make a meeting illegal with a
staff member is if three members were there and the
public wasn't invited. Any member of this Council,
and Mr. Petta is fully aware, may meet with staff
at any time to get direction, to find out what is
going on not only a privilege, it's your
responsibility. It's a responsibility that I do
not take lightly and I avail myself of constantly
and I will continue to do that as long as I sit on
this Council and that's up to the citizens of this
community when that gets terminated. I have
participated in no illegal meetings as Mr. Petta
has told you with staff. I know of no member of
this staff that presently is with the City that is
so weak that I as one person, could possibly walk
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in and intimidate them and make them back down.
And I would hope that you all can see that for
exactly what it's worth, it's worth nothing, it's
hogwash. So why was I meeting with developers, a
person that owns property within this City, whether
it be a single-family home or whether it be a large
piece of commercial property or whether it be an
apartment developer, has the same right in my
office. I have not sought them out, I have not
held illegal meetings with them. I want that made
clear and I do not want to hear it anymore. It is
a lie, it's campaign rhetoric, plain and simple.
Mr. Petta referenced the parking problems at the
Terrace Mesa Apartments and the fact that they
don't have adequate parking on that site and that
is why all of those horrible apartment dwellers
park their cars on DeBerry. I happened to have
lived in that apartment complex for nine months and
I can tell you that inside of that complex there is
adequate parking for every single tenant. Why
don't they park there, because it's a closed
concealed area considered not safe; it is not open;
people cannot see into it; it allows a place for
people to hide; it allows people to come in and rob
cars and put them on jack stands, not people that
live in the apartment, we built a trap and we were
asked to build another one and I'm afraid that we
have. At the time that the garages were an issue
with Phase II, I sat here, and it's a matter of
Minute record, that I argued that the people in
Grand Terrace do not park in garages, there was an
observation made when I walked in three campaigns,
they park their spare stuff in the garages and at
that time Mr. Petta argued with me that that was
not true, as did the Mayor and other members of
this Council. Now Mr. Petta comes through and
tells us that that is true, people aren't going to
park in their garages, but they'll park their stuff
there. When they were circulating the petition,
they were telling people that lived as high as
three blocks from Mt. Vernon that the people were
going to be parking in front of their houses and
they would have no privacy if they build those
apartments. And they knew that wasn't true. Yes,
the people are confused, they really are confused
because they got a lot of bad information. They
will build those garages, and they will store their
stuff in them, but they still will park inside the
project. At least if this project has no
three -bedroom apartments in it, there is one in
town that does and they are built illegally. I'm
sorry, Mr. Petta, that being in office is so
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important to you that you could come forth and
blatantly lie, stretch the truth, twist it around
to your advantage and I no longer have to sit here
and allow it to happen to me. I spent thirty-five
years or I will even expand that to forty-six
years, a victim in this world, a victim of you and
other people like you, I will no longer be a victim
in this world, I have done nothing wrong, I've
tried to do my job well . I come to this Council
table prepared, I do not lie to people and I do my
best to serve. If that is not what this City
wants, then they need to replace me because that is
what they are going to get for the next two and a
half years. And now as promised, I am going to
read to you what Mr. Petta and I both voted on.
The project, by the way was $30,000,000.00 of which
this City received $75,000.00, went into our
coffers and we spent it. She proceeded to read the
bond issue. She stated that the unique quality of
the 2-bedroom and 2-bathrooms was put in as a
result of one of these horrible secret meetings
with the developer when it was called to the
attention of certain members of the Council through
a seminar that we had attended that senior citizens
had certain needs that could be met in units where
there could be joint living facilities, two -master
bedrooms, 2-master bathrooms with a joint living
room and kitchen. One of the sad things about
senior citizens' lives is that they spend too much
time alone, we need to be sensitive to that. Those
types of units were designed in this project after
I met with them and called to their attention that
there was a need for this kind of housing because I
was getting those kinds of calls from the
community. I guess my mistake is that I listened
and was sensitive to what was needed. No one ever
wanted apartments in the beginning. While I was on
the Council in the very infancy of my term, we all
voted against it. There were reasons that
apartments, multi -family residential were mandated
into this City. And I tell you this, the reasons
today are more imperative than they were four or
six years ago. The latest Western Cities Magazines
cites the fact that thousands and thousands of
people are going to be put onto the streets because
there is no affordable housing for them. So I put
it to you, we need to become sensitive to the needs
of people who live differently and have different
needs, or are we going to have to deal with them in
a way that we don't want to and I make no
apologies. At this point, I make none. My
r-1 position from the beginning was no apartments, but
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if we have to, get the best damn apartments we can
get and I feel that that is what we have. So far,
as being a single woman, if I were going to rent in
those apartments I would be in Phase I where the
people driving on Mt. Vernon could see me when I
get out of my car that is parked in that horrible
carport as opposed to driving around like I had to
do at the Terrace Mesa Apartments where no body can
see who is going to grab me and drag me in, thank
you very much.
Councilmember Evans It is my turn now, I had an opportunity to read a
b'lography about Thomas Jefferson and a point he
rude was the education of the people that lived in
this country, because he felt that education made a
more intelligent group of people and hopefully with
that education, we would be able to understand what
needed to be done and why progress must have come.
It is very interesting that Mr. Petta likes to use
buzz words talking about pressing, sabotaging,
formulating plans, illegal action on my part, as
well as my colleague. If I did anything illegal, I
would like for you to prove it Mr. Petta, I haven't
done anything illegal and I will take you on any
time you like to discuss this whole matter one on
one. I'm going to educate you folks, why we are
where we are at. This is the record. In March
1984, the previous City Council approved a General
Plan Land Use 5-0. That included Mr. Petta and
included Mr. Grant, that vote was 5-0 and that
designated apartment construction in the area where
the controversy has been. April 1984, they
formally adopted the rest of that General Plan,
guess what Mr. Petta and Mr. Grant again voted
AYE. In that document there is an element that is
referred to as the Housing Element. One of the
comments within that Housing Element states Grand
Terrace recognizes that in order for low and
moderate housing development to be economical
viable, density from 18 to 20-dwelling units per
gross is necessary. With this reason development
up to 20-units an acre is allowed in all
multi -family areas. The General Plan, I believe
Mr. Harper is a legal document, is it not, people
rely upon that document to go through Public
Hearings. If they are opposed to apartment
construction, then why did they approve the
document that had language in it such as that. Now
it starts to get interesting after people start
buying lands relying upon a legal document that
these individuals just voted AYE on and supported
saying it's okay for you to do. In June 1984, 0
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McMillan Development is now Forest City and was the
first one to come into this City, they submitted
what they called an inducement resolution asking
will this council support bonding for an apartment
project. Now, at that particular time, that was on
14 acres and it stated that they were proposing to
build a 280-unit apartment complex, that was at
20-units per acre. Guess what folks, Mr. Petta and
Mr. Grant voted AYE to do that. July 1984, the
City Engineer had vision to recognize that if
apartments are going to have to be constructed in
that particular area, then there's some engineering
problems that needed to be worked out. So, he
suggested to this particular developer, as well as
another developer who had come in and presented a
plan, that they jointly work together for an
apartment project that would be planned with unity
within that `area. July 1984, that conceptual
Master Plan was presented, was voted in support of
5-0, which included Mr. Petta and Mr. Grant
supporting a project, these are apartments.
September 1984, we have another apartment project
that was brought before Council. Another
inducement resolution asking are you going to help
us out with some bond funding if we go ahead with
this project. That was referred to as Chaparral
Pines. Chaparral Pines was never built. However,
the project referred to as the Britton Project,
which is the project at Barton and Canal is part of
that original proposal. September 1984, Mr. Petta
supported the resolution for funding on apartments.
Again, that was specific as to how many they
intended to build. This was the first deviation of
Mr. Grant. Through October, there were public
hearings held on zoning in that area. Mr. Harper
you probably could educate us to the fact that
there is a Government Code Section that states that
zoning must be brought into compliance with the
General Plan Land Use, is that correct.
City Attorney Harper City Attorney Harper stated, yes, there is an
obligation to have zoning comply with the General
Plan.
Councilmember Evans Here, several months later after the City said it
is okay to go with apartments, they are now
complying with the law. Mr. Petta supported the
zone change on one portion of that area, however,
he opposed the zone change in the other area,
inconsistent, in my opinion. Then we had
Election '84. In November of 1984, there was a
request for rehearing on the denied zone area.
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Mr. Petta and Mr. Grant supported the request for a
rehearing. February 1985, that came before this
Council and Mr. Petta supported the zone change,
keep in mind folks that if you are opposed to
apartments, why is it that you are supporting them
all along. I have to give Mr. Grant credit that he
voted NOE. However, it was immaterial since the
Government Code says it has to be brought into
compliance. June 1985, the horrendous Mt. Vernon
Villas Phase I came to Council, this project is
under construction right now, guess what, Mr. Petta
voted for it, if he didn't want it, why didn't he
vote against it. July 1985, another conceptual
Master Plan was brought before Council again,
trying and bring some kind of unified plan to that
whole area. That Master Plan was approved 5-0 by
the Council, which included Mr. Petta and Mr.
Grant. July 1985, 5-0, Council approved the
Specific Plan for Phase I of the Mt. Vernon
Villas. August 1985, there was another apartment
project in the same area, that was USA Properties.
USA Properties is now incorporated into Phase II of
the Mt. Vernon Villas. That project got approved,
it was never built, because they sold the rights to
the now Forest City Dillion. That's another
apartment project that was approved 5-0. Now, if
these people are against apartment construction,
why are they voting for it. December 1985,
$30,000,000.00 multi -family housing revenue bond
issue came before the Council and you have already
heard a summary of what that document entailed.
That was voted 5-0 and that incorporated both
phases of the Mt. Vernon Villas Project. That is
just the Mt. Vernon Villas, there were several
other projects which came before us. After the
General Plan was approved questions were asked,
staff must produce documents for us in which we can
deny projects. There is a Government Code Section,
65589.5, I don't want to put you on the spot Mr.
Harper, but I can vouch for the accuracy. That
within there it states that written findings
supported by substantial evidence on the record
that both of the following conditions exist: You
can't deny a project just because of density where
it is going to be an impact upon the public health
and safety and if there is no other way, other
feasible methods to satisfactorily mitigate those
properties, you can deny it. We are dealing with
the law. I didn't want to see apartments; I've
never supported apartments; if there was anyway we
could deny that project, we would have been more
than happy to do that, but guess what, the wheels
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were set in motion before I came here. I do my
homework and I study, and I try to understand the
ramifications that my vote is going to make.
Personally, I don't feel that some of the other
members present and in the past really understand
what they vote on and the implications that it
entails. Unfortunately, this City was brought by
the denial of Phase II through court and a judge
rendered a decision. He rendered a decision not
out of the clear blue, he rendered a decision that
was based on case law. He wasn't paving new
ground. And to appeal a decision as previous legal
Council, the City Management, and now this one
feels that we have a very slim to non -chance of
winning. It's going to incur a very serious
financial burden onto this City. This City must be
operated as a business, common sense must be
dictated and when you throw that out of the window
for political ambitions, we'll certainly start down
the road to ruin. You've heard the term
Campaign '88. I strongly urge everybody, you
better look at the facts because you've been fed a
bunch of incorrect information that has created a
lot of serious problems for this City.
Tony Petta The remarks that I made are a matter of record and
they stand. R-3 Zone vote for apartments was, R-3
stands for 9-units per acre no more until approved
by the planning process for more. When Mr. Evans
said that the project cannot be denied because of
density, he is correct. However, the project can
be denied because of the horrendous impaction that
would be created on Mt. Vernon. When he said,
"I've never supported apartments," I think that
everybody in Grand Terrace knows different.
Mayor Pro Tem Pfenni hausen, brought up a concern
ot hers regarding a crosswalk at Barton Road and
Canal. She stated that at a prior Council meeting
that issue was brought up. She had suggested that
prior to the installation of a traffic signal at
Barton and Michigan, that two flashing caution
lights be installed to warn drivers that there is
something ahead. She had suggested with the
support of Councilmember Grant that those flashing
lights be moved to a location to warn drivers that
that crosswalk was upcoming. She stated those
lights were never moved and reported that she had
received a telephone call from a resident who
observed an old lady trying to cross in that
crosswalk and jumped back and fell to avoid being
struck by a motorist. She felt that the issue may
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NEW BUSINESS
have fallen through the cracks, but would like to
see flashing yellow lights installed at the
earliest possible time.
Mayor Matteson, felt that when we widen the street,
that problem is going to increase and indicated
that he had two items to discuss. He stated that
if anyone had problems with mosquitos, flies, rats,
etc., they should call San Bernardino County at
387-4663 and they will take care of the problem.
He stated that he wanted to clear up some
misconception about some remarks he made at the
last Council meeting regarding the trailer court on
Michigan. He stated that if any development ever
goes in doW there, the people will be taken care
of. He felt development is years down the road.
Regarding fencing the vacant apartments behind the
retirement hotel. He felt we should contact the
developer to see if they could fence it without
blocking the entrances so that some of the problems
could be eliminated.
Community Development Director Sawyer reported
there are two entrances to the now vacant
apartments behind the retirement hotel. Both of
those are required entrances for the retirement
hotel for fire access and stated that staff could
look at some alternatives, but the reason why those
entrances are there are for fire access to the
retirement hotel. Hopefully, we are going to have
that problem taken care of soon, they have applied
for demolition permits and those buildings will be
coming down in a short time.
5a. T.J. Austyn Inc., request for exemption from
residential development moratorium Tract No. 13205.
Community Development Director Sawyer read his
Staff Report regarding T.J. Austyn's request for
exemption from the City's residential development
moratorium for T-13205. He stated that the
Planning Department recommends that the City
Council exempt this project from the residential
moratorium at this time.
CC-88-148 MOTION BY MAYOR MATTESON, SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM PFENNIGHAUSEN, to
approve T.J. Austyn's request for exemption from the residential
development moratorium.
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Councilmember Evans stated that if this particular
motion passes, he suggested that you consider
removing the building moratorium so that we don't
have to go through this effort continuously. He
listed names, dates and his reasons for suggesting
the removal of the moratorium.
Mayor Matteson explained that the ones he listed
were granted their request because they are not in
any planned zone change and we do have planned zone
changes to keep that in line with the zone change
program that Planning is bringing forward and that
is the reason for holding that moratorium. He
explained that we don't want someone coming in with
a plan and the zone is going to be changed.
Motion CC-88-148 carried 5-0.
Mayor Matteson explained that at an adjourned
regular meeting on June 27, 1988, the City Council
interviewed applicants to fill two vacancies on the
Planning Commission. The two applicants that were
selected are Mr. Dan Buchanan and Mr. Herman Hickey
whose terms will expire on June 14, 1992.
CC-88-149 MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER EVANS, SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER GRANT,
CARRIED 5-0.
Mayor Matteson adjourned the City Council meeting
at 8:45 p.m. until the next regular City Council
meeting which will be held on Thursday, July 28,
1988 at 5:30 p.m.
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