08/25/1988CITY COUNCIL MINUTES
REGULAR MEETING - AUGUST 25, 1988
A regular meeting of the City Council of the City of Grand Terrace was called
to order in the Council Chambers, Grand Terrace Civic Center, 22795 Barton
Road, Grand Terrace, California, on August 25, 1988, at 6:00 p.m.
PRESENT: Byron Matteson, Mayor
Barbara Pfennighausen, Mayor Pro Tem
Hugh J. Grant, Councilmember
Dennis Evans, Councilmember
Susan Shirley, Councilmember
Thomas J. Schwab, City Manager/Finance Director
Randy Anstine, Assistant City Manager
David Sawyer, Community Development Director
John Harper, City Attorney
Joe Kicak, City Engineer
ABSENT: Juanita Brown, Deputy City Clerk
The meeting was opened with invocation by Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen,
followed by the Pledge of Allegiance led by Councilmember Grant.
ITEMS TO DELETE
Item 5C-1 -- Reappointment of Bea Gigandet.
CONSENT CALENDAR
CC-88-167 MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER GRANT, SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER SHIRLEY,
CARRIED 5-0, to approve the Consent Calendar with the removal of
Item A -- Check Register No. 082588.
B. RATIFY 8/25/88 CRA ACTION
C. WAIVE FULL READING OF ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS ON
AGENDA
D. APPROVE 8/11/85 MINUTES
E. RENEWAL OF SAN BERNARDINO COUNTY LIBRARY LEASE
F. REJECTION OF LIABILITY CLAIMS 88-02-88-05
G. GRANTING OF HOME OCCUPATION PERMIT FOR LUCILLE
HAMBLIN
ITEM REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR FOR DISCUSSION
A. Approve Check Register No. 082588.
Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen for the purpose of
setting one item on the Check Register apart for a
separate vote, Item 18928 -- Willdan & Associates
Check and wanted it as a matter of record that she
opposed the payment of this bill and the bill
itself.
CC-88-168 MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM PFENNIGHAUSEN, SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER
EVANS, CARRIED 5-0, to approve the remainder of the Check Register
except for Item 18928.
Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen explained her reasons
for not voting on this item.
Mayor Matteson explained that this item was
approved by the City Council at a prior meeting
based on the fact that the Consultants were
required to do more than the contract had stated,
therefore, they billed us for additional charges.
CHECK REGISTER ITEM NO. 18928.
CC-88-169 MOTION BY MAYOR MATTESON, SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER SHIRLEY, CARRIED
3-2 (MAYOR PRO TEM PFENNIGHAUSEN AND COUNCILMEMBER EVANS VOTED
NOE), to approve the additional charges to Willdan & Associates.
PUBLIC PARTICIPATION
John Jensen, Merle Court, expressed his feelings
regarding allowing trucks, motor homes to park on
the streets and wanted to know what Councilmembers
voted for this ordinance.
Councilmember Evans explained his reason for his
vote in granting one gentleman a permit to park
his truck on the City Street and encouraged Mr.
Johnson to look at the video tape or listen to the
cassette tape. He concurred with Mr. Johnson
regarding boats and large RV's, pointing out that
there is an Ordinance that does govern parking such
items in residential areas and suggested he ask the
City Manager to look into it.
Councilmember Grant concurred with Councilmember
Evans and explained his reasons for voting on this
issue and that each situation would be considered
on its own merit. He stated that the City Manager
had express reservations about approving this and
shared his reason for his reservation.
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ORAL REPORTS
Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen stated that the truck
is not parked in front of anyone's house,
explaining that all but two of the residents came
in and said they had no problem with that truck
being there. She explained there is an Ordinance
that prohibits the parking of commercial vehicles,
motor homes, boats over a specified period of time
which is available to the public.
Mayor Matteson agreed with Mr. Johnson 100 percent
that if that truck was parked in front of anyone of
the Councilmembers house that voted for that
permit, they would be up at arms.
Mayor Matteson read a letter he received from Mr.
Teorey who was opposed to trucks being parked on
the streets.
Councilmember Shirley concurred with Mayor Matteson
explaining that this man was issued a permit a long
time ago stating that if there was one objection to
his truck being parked there, his permit would be
revoked and we had objections. She stated that
it was not made clear at the last Council meeting
that this was not this man's truck and that it
belonged to the people he work for.
Barbara Bayus, 22664 Eton Drive, stated that she
was acting as a representative of the San
Bernardino Board of Realtors and that she was the
liaison between them and the community of Grand
Terrace, explaining what they are about and their
future plans. She handed out flyers of their
objectives and goals to Council and the City
Manager.
Gene Carlstrom, President Elect of the Chamber of
ommerce, reported on the mixer at Grand Terrace
Ice Cream Shop.
A. Historical & Cultural Activities Committee
1. Minutes of 8/11/88
Council accepted the Historical & Cultural
Activities —Committee Minutes of 8/1/88.
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Councilmember Shirley stated there is a change
in the Historical & Cultural Activities
Committee meeting date and time for their
September meeting and that needs to be posted.
Mayor Matteson asked City Manager Schwab to
post it.
2. Plates & Plaques from Italy
Councilmember Grant asked if the Chairperson of
the Historical Committee had asked for a secure
place for these plaques and documents to be
stored.
City Manager Schwab replied it was his
understanding that they were not requesting a
secure place of putting them into a storage
vault, they indicated they would like to have a
place to store them as well as display them.
He stated that he and Assistant City Manager
Anstine had discussed buying something similar
that you can put on the wall.
Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen suggested the area
between the reception desk and Community
Services, behind the counter, elevated and
glass fronted.
City Manager Schwab explained that the
committee had asked for Council to direct Staff
to make a recommendation which would include a
cost figure and the potential to fund that.
CC-88-170 MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER GRANT, SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM
PFENNIGHAUSEN, CARRIED 5-0, for Staff to make a recommendation
which would include a cost figure and potential funding.
Application of Marie Schmidt
CC-88-171 MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER GRANT, SECOND BY MAYOR MATTESON, CARRIED
5-0, for Marie Schmidt to fill the vacancy on the Historical &
Cultural Activities Committee.
B. Emergency Operations Committee
1. Minutes of 8/11/88
Council accepted the Historical & Cultural
Activities Committee Minutes of 8/1/88.
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D. City Council Reports
Councilmember Shirley, had concerns regarding the
45 mph speed limit on Mt. Vernon to DeBerry, south
of Barton Road approaching the school and
crosswalk.
Assistant City Manager Anstine explained that the
major thoroughfares in the City have been certified
by a traffic engineer, but would be happy to go
back and research and provide Council with
information and a recommendation from the engineer.
Councilmember Evans, reported attending a South
Coast Air Quality Management District luncheon and
explained the policies that are coming out and are
currently having public hearings throughout the
district. He shared his concerns regarding air
pollution and suggested having several workshops
that would extend over a period of time for
everyone to be aware of the problems that we will
be facing at the turn of the century. He requested
that staff take a look at this and try to come up
with some ideas for educating the citizens.
Councilmember Grant, wanted to know what was the
regulation of size on banners.
City Manager Schwab replied that generally banners
are prohibited, but the Planning Director does
have some latitude to allow a temporary permit of
the banner and asked if there was a particular one.
Councilmember Grant
Apartments and Forest
Mt. Vernon, very large
for rent.
reported that Chaparral
City Dillion Apartments on
signs draped across saying
Community Development Director Sawyer reported that
Chaparral Pines which is now Terrace Pines came in
with a plan and requested a permit for what those
banners represents, a special event sign and the
Code does specifically say how large those banners
could be and how long they can remain. He
explained that the opening of those apartments is
considered a special event and the size of those
banners are within what the Code allows.
Councilmember Grant asked if the apartments on Mt.
Vernon were considered a special event.
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Community Development
it would be, but they
on that yet.
Councilmember Grant
hanging, wanting to
something like this,
Director Sawyer replied that
have not come in for a permit
pointed out that the sign is
know what do we do about
just ignore it.
City Manager Schwab stated staff will address the
responsible party and request that they come in for
a permit. He explained that when the Community
Development Director makes reference to a special
event, the Code covers this under the subdivision
area because the Chaparral Pines is a subdivision
apartment complex and allows for the same thing as
the other developments that have been in the area
to put up banners and flags and so forth on their
own property for a temporary period.
Mayor Matteson reported having two items to speak
on, one was City Council receiving a letter of
thanks from Renee Mendez, from the trailer park on
Michigan regarding Council taking action on the
safety factor of the curbs going out of the trailer
park. He stated that the other item is trying to
get a stop sign at Michigan and Main Street for
months, explaining that approximately ten days ago
there was an accident and while the officer was
finishing up his report, there was another
accident.
Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen stated that accident
occurred at her corner and that she reported that
accident, explaining that the response time was two
minutes. She explained that approximately two
years ago the City of Grand Terrace notified
Riverside County that we would like to make that a
4-way stop and we can't make that a 4-way stop
without the participation of Riverside County.
Riverside County tells us that they don't have a
record of accidents at that intersection and she
could not understand that except that Riverside
County does not respond to accidents at that
intersection; the Highway Patrol responds on behalf
of Riverside and our Sheriff Department respond on
behalf of the report from the City of Grand
Terrace. Therefore she felt it was time to get
reports from our SO and the Highway Patrol and
present those to the Board of Supervisors.
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UNFINISHED BUSINESS
Mayor Matteson asked th
copies of those accident
to Supervisor Younglove
stating the problem and
four-way stop.
e City Manager to acquire
reports and send a letter
of the County of Riverside
our suggested solution, our
Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen offered to tell them
about the accidents that she has seen.
6A-1 Council authorize the Mayor to execute escrow
instructions to purchase property described in
escrow UiI4-d, ti rst American Iltle Tor Parcel
AP 276-461-09.
City Manager Schwab reported that at the meeting of
August 11, 1988, the City Council authorized Staff
to make an offer on the Robert's parcel for
acquisition of parkland. He reported that the
parcel is 4.66 acre of parcel on the southeast
corner of Mt. Vernon to Vista Grande Way, one lot
west of the Terrace View Elementary School. He
explained that the proposal has been made to the
property owner for the purchase price of $345,000.
The individual is willing to finance the property
at 9 percent interest for approximately 12 years at
approximately $3,000.00 per month. Staff has been
able to acquire a municipal lease financing to
purchase the price over five years at 7.92
percent. Staff is asking Council to (1) accept the
lease purchase financing authorizing the Mayor to
execute the escrow to (2) appropriate $70,000.00
from the Parkland Acquisition Sinking Fund; (3)
appropriate $600.00 from the Parkland Acquisition
Sinking Fund for the payment of escrow fees; and
(4) adopt and sign a Resolution to the City of
Grand Terrace authorizing a lease agreement and the
signatories.
CC-88-172 MOTION BY MAYOR MATTESON, SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER SHIRLEY, to adopt
all four.
Councilmember Evans stated he wanted to go on
record that he does not oppose park acquisition,
felt we need some additional parkland that we can
call our own and some
based on the wishes t
survey done last year.
acquisition of this par
and is a slap in th
Recreation Committee and
therefore, he could not
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thing that we can develop
hat were expressed on the
However, he felt this
cel is an inadequate site
e face to our Park and
gave his reasons, stating
support this.
NEW BUSINESS
Councilmember Grant stated he supported this site
because it is strategically located in terms of
providing services to all of the people of this
community and will have different types of
recreation. He stated that he has been at the Park
and Recreation Committee meetings where they took a
vote and approved it, so he felt we are doing
exactly what the Park and Recreation Committee
wanted us to do and what the people in the
community need in terms of parkland and he is in
favor of this motion.
Councilmember Evans stated for a matter of record
on June 1, 1987 the Park and Recreation Committee
submitted a report in reference to proposed
parkland and although they might say this site is
okay, it still goes against what they had expressed
in that Staff Report and at that time they
identified what they wanted and he then listed
their recommendations.
Motion CC-88-172 carried 3-2 (Councilmember Evans
and Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen voted NOE).
7A. Appeal of Planning Commission decision SA-88-8
ers
Community Development Director Sawyer presented his
Staff Report regarding the approval of SA88-8
(application for a single-family home at 11870
Burns Avenue) by the S&A Review Board in July,
1988, explaining the required needed conditions
that were not met and staff's reason for requesting
a denial.
Mayor Matteson asked what was the the applicant's
reason for requesting the appeal?
Bill Mitchell, Riverside, representative of Happy
Homes Bui ers, explained that the reason for
requesting the denial of certificate of survey was
because it's a large lot, a half -acre lot and then
explained the setbacks all around the house. He
could not understand how the Community Development
Director could say there is a problem with the
setbacks for such a large lot and he was not aware
of the conditions mentioned by the Community
Development Director. He pointed out that it would
cost them approximately $5,000.00 for a survey and
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the homeowner has already agreed to sign an
agreement with the City of Grand Terrace, whereas
if the City obtain the property to the north and
south to widen the street, they would go ahead and
put in the street and gutter and pay for the
widening of the street.
Councilmember Evans asked if he understood that the
applicant was not aware of the conditions at the
time that this was reviewed by the Planning
Commission?
Mr. Mitchell, replied they were unaware of it at
the time that they came over requesting all of the
information, that was not listed as a requirement
to submit to the Planning Commission. They said we
had to have site plans, landscape plans, fifteen
copies of the building plans.
Councilmember Evans stated that he was looking at a
letter dated July 12, 1988 from our City Engineer
to our Planning Director as far as the
recommendations. One was Certificate of Survey for
subject parcel; are you saying that was not
included in the Conditions of Approval?
Mr. Mitchell asked for the date.
Councilmember Evans stated it was received on
July 12, 1988.
Mr. Mitchell stated this goes back to December 1987
when we came over and talked to them about what all
they would require and he had a copy of what was
sent to them, indicating there was not a date on
what was sent to them. He listed the minimum
requirement: Site and Architectural Review,
vicinity map, proof of legal lot recording, if
undeveloped, material board, actual sampling of
materials and colors mounted on paper; 25 copies of
site plans, floor plans; elevation and landscape
plans and filing fee of $702.00 plus $82.50.
City Manager Schwab explained that Mr. Mitchell was
reading from a standard handout for someone for
submittal, pointing out that the Planning
Commission decision was made on July 18, 1988. He
explained that one of the conditions made by the
Planning Commission was that all recommendations
listed in the City Engineer's Memo of July 12th
shall be complied with. It is that particular
aspect that he is appealing to the Council for
approval.
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Councilmember Shirley asked City Engineer Kicak
what he felt the cost would be to survey that
property?
City Engineer Kicak replied he really did not know,
but felt that was one of the areas within the City
where there is very little monumentation that has
been done, feeling if you look at their Grant Deed,
you will see a reference back through a County
Board of Supervisors accepting a right-of-way,
similar to our experience with the Vivienda
Bridge. He explained that those types of documents
are very vague. He explained his reason for
setting that condition on that particular project,
stating that when he looked at the plan and
questioned the distance along the westerly property
line of that parcel, the developer could not tell
him. There was no dimension on it and the City
Engineer asked how did he determine it and he said
he scaled it based on an assessor's map. We have
some real concern as to what is going on out there
in that whole subdivision and that particular
parcel, they don't even know what the dimension on
the westerly line or where that westerly line was.
Councilmember Shirley felt $5,000.00 was too high
for a survey and questioned if it could be done for
much less. 0
City Engineer Kicak felt it could be done for about
$2,500.00. He felt that someone has to research
that area to determine where the points are and do
a closure, indicating there may be a need for
proportioning of the lots based on what is of
record.
Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen asked Community
Development Director Sawyer what were some of the
problems that we as a City and the owners of the
property in transfer of that property could run
into when those lines are not specifically located
and monuments put there?
Community Development Director Sawyer explained
that currently the setbacks do not appear to be a
problem, but in the future if there are to be
additional buildings done on that property where
they will be building setbacks, there could be a
problem regarding identifying what we measured
those setbacks from. He stated that one of the
conditions on this map is that a fence be placed on
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the side and rear yards and if we don't know where
that property line is we might be having the
applicant put a fence on possibly a neighbors yard
and the question might come up why the City didn't
require a survey and why a fence was allowed to go
on their property.
Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen felt we have inherited
the problems from the County.
CC-88-173 MOTION BY MAYOR MATTESON, SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM PFENNIGHAUSEN,
CARRIED 5-0, to deny the appeal.
7B. REPORT ON POTENTIAL ANNEXATION
Mayor Matteson indicated that Council will address
this issue first and then he will open it up for
public participation.
Community Development Director presented his Staff
Report, regarding the un-incorporated area south of
Main Street which lies in Riverside County.
Staff's recommendation is that Council direct staff
to conduct a feasibility study regarding the
possible annexation of the area identified in the
attached map.
Mayor Matteson requested Community Development
Director to address and discuss the boundaries.
Community Development Director explained that the
boundaries begin south from Main Street on Michigan
Avenue; follows Michigan Avenue going south until
it hits Center Street; goes westerly to Garfield
Avenue; continues south along Garfield Avenue to a
point which is approximately 1,600 ft. from Center
Street and approximately 800 ft. from Spring
Street, then goes easterly in a line of Pigeon Pass
Road which extend all the way through there (would
be an extension of Pigeon Pass Road); that line
comes easterly until it hits Pigeon Pass Road and
then goes up to a point which would approximately
be even with the peak of Blue Mountain (all of that
area between Main Street and Pigeon Pass Road.)
Councilmember Evans asked for clarification, did
the recommended southerly boundaries follow the
nature gully that goes throughout that area?
Community Development Director replied yes, to the
point where Mt. Vernon would intersect that and
then continue on from there.
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PUBLIC PARTICIPATION
7C.
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Councilmember Evans asked if he was recommending
that Pigeon Pass Road be the dividing point,
northside would be in Grand Terrace and the
southside would be Riverside. The response was,
"yes "
There was a lengthy discussion on the proposed
adjustment of the Riverside County and San
Bernardino County lines and the possible annexation
of Highgrove to Grand Terrace. Several Highgrove
residents expressed their views on the proposal.
The speakers were concerned with the piecemeal
selection of the area under consideration. They
felt that the consideration should be all or
nothing. Several speakers voiced opposition to the
idea in principle and expressed pride in their
Highgrove identity.
The following Highgrove residents voiced opposition
to the piecemeal annexation:
Claude Norris, 709 Arliss Street
Danny Stauffer, 548 Main Street
Adam Morales
Dana Williams
Gordon Swain
Dana Williams, 761 Flint Street
Gordon Swinger, 540 Michigan Street, Highgrove
Dennis Kidd, 22874 Pico Street, Grand Terrace voice
his opinion regarding the annexation.
Following discussion of the issue by City Staff,
Councilmembers, and Grand Terrace residents, it was
suggested that a study be made before pursuing the
subject further. The cost of an in-depth study was
felt to be burdensome by a Council majority and the
Mayor indicated he would continue to pursue the
matter on his own and bring it back to Council at a
future date.
REQUEST TO STUDY TRAFFIC SAFETY PROBLEM ON THE
ALLEYWAY BETWEEN MT. VERNON AND HOLLY.
Councilmember Grant explained that he brought this
to the attention of the City Manager simply for the
purpose of discussion because he received some
reports from residents that a lot of children on
skateboards and bicycles are using that alley.
Speed bumps were suggested and discussed at length
by Councilmembers and staff and it was decided to
poll the homeowners before making any definite
decision.
7D. IF CRA ITEM #4 PASSES CITY COUNCIL WILL NEED TO
PROPRIATE AND TRANSFERS SALES TAX PLEDGES
GREEMENT.
CC-88-174 MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER EVANS, SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM
PFENNIGHAUSEN, CARRIED 5-0.
Mayor Matteson adjourned the City Council meeting at
9:37 p.m. until the next regular City Council meeting
which will be held on Thursday, September 8, 1988 at
6:00 p.m.
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