03/09/1989CITY COUNCIL MINUTES
REGULAR MEETING - MARCH 09, 1989
A regular meeting of the City Council of the City of Grand Terrace was called
to order in the Council Chambers, Grand Terrace Civic Center, 22795 Barton
Road, Grand Terrace, California, on March 09, 1989, at 6:00 p.m.
PRESENT: Byron Matteson, Mayor
Hugh J. Grant, Mayor Pro Tem
Barbara Pfennighausen, Councilmember
Jim Singley, Councilmember
Gene Carlstrom, Councilmember
Thomas J. Schwab, City Manager/Finance Director
John Harper, City Attorney
David Sawyer, Community Development Director
Juanita Brown, Deputy City Clerk
Joe Kicak, City Engineer
ABSENT: Randy Anstine, Assistant City Manager
The meeting was opened with invocation by Pastor Salim Elias, Azure Hills
Seventh Day Adventist Church, followed by the Pledge of Allegiance led by
Counctlmember Carlstrom.
Mayor Matteson convened City Council meeting at 6:06 p.m.
Mayor Matteson reconvened City Council meeting at 6:10 p.m.
ITEMS TO DELETE
None.
SPECIAL PRESENTATION
Mayor Matteson read a Proclamation proclaiming the
month of April as "Earthquake Preparedness Month."
CONSENT CALENDAR
CC-89-30 MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM GRANT, SECOND BY MAYOR MATTESON, CARRIED
5-0, to approve the remainder of the Consent Calendar with the
removal of Item A - Check Register No. 030989.
B. RATIFY 03/09/89 CRA ACTION
C. WAIVE FULL READING OF ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS ON
AGENDA.
�� D. APPROVE MINUTES OF 02/09/89 & 02/23/89
ITEM FOR DISCUSSION
3A. APPROVE CHECK REGISTER NO. 030989
Councilmember Pfennighausen had questions regarding
Item No. 19662.
City Manager Schwab explained that item is the cost
for a copy of the deposition that the court ordered
regarding the current sewer lawsuit between Colton
and the City of Grand Terrace.
Councilmember Pfennighausen had questions regarding the
$636.01 for Check No. 19675 - Complete Business System
extra copies.
City Manager Schwab explained that the rental of our
copier allows us to have so many copies per month and
anything over that we are charged.
Mayor Pro Tem Grant indicated Item 19703 - Law
Enforcement Overtime and questioned if we get a weekly,
bi-weekly or monthly breakdown regarding the reason for
overtime. He asked if there was a noted degree of
variation in the overtime and shared his feelings
regarding what should be done when looking at the
budget this year.
City Manager Schwab explained that this particular bill
is for two months, but we are billed overtime as it
occurs. He explained that the City receives a summary
of the classification of officers and how many hours
are worked. He stated that an estimated amount was
budgeted for overtime and that we are still within the
budget this year.
Councilmember Singley shared his knowledge regarding
the budget in the Sheriff's Office.
CC-89-31 MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM GRANT, SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER SINGLEY,
CARRIED 5-0, to approve Check Register No. 030989.
PUBLIC PARTICIPATION
None.
ORAL REPORTS
5A. COMMITTEE REPORTS
1. Historical & Cultural Committee
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Accept Resignation of Linda Lee Laufer
CC-89-32 MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM GRANT, SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER
PFENNIGHAUSEN, CARRIED 5-0, to accept the resignation of Mrs. Linda
Lee Laufer with deep regret, authorize Staff to submit a letter of
gratitude and advertise the vacancy.
5B. COUNCIL REPORTS
Councilmember Pfennighausen, reported that on February 9,
1989 she brought the —subject up regarding raising
compensation for Planning Commissioners by $10.00 a
meeting, feeling they have been given an additional
responsibility of acting as Code Enforcement hearing
officers. She requested that this be placed on the next
Agenda.
Mayor Pro Tem Grant shared his views and concurred with
Councilmember Pfennighausen.
Councilmember Pfennighausen reported on a phone call she
received from a resident that lives west of the freeway in
the area of the Vivienda Bridge complaining about the
graffitti and shared her feelings regarding graffitti.
She felt some type of policy should be established
regarding its removal. She shared her views regarding the
gravel that was placed in the playground of the park,
feeling the gravel should be removed. She stated that she
was informed it was requested by the Parks & Recreation
Committee who explained it wasn't their idea. She
requested comments from the other Councilmembers.
Mayor Pro Tem Grant indicated being at the meeting and
explained that apparently the soil had become compacted to
the extent of being very hard and the only response that
Staff was able to provide was that this was standard
material used in playgrounds and other parks within the
County. He explained that he had the same concern as did
a member of the Parks and Recreation Committee who had
called him prior to this meeting regarding the injuries
that might occur to the children and the problem it could
create for the City's equipment. He reported that it was
suggested at the meeting to just leave the gravel and see
how things work out, feeling it wasn't a good idea.
City Manager Schwab reported on receiving phone calls
concerning this, explaining if it is the concensus of the
Council to take the gravel out and replace it with sand,
Staff will do that.
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Councilmember Pfennighausen did not feel sand could just
be dumped there, it's been done before and became
compacted and hard, feeling it needs to be monitored. She
requested a Staff Report listing the locations of the
areas within the County using gravel so she can go out to
see them.
Councilmember Singley explained his association regarding
gravel and sand, indicating that sand can be thrown into
children eyes and that neither were good alternatives. He
reported that there is a rubber outdoor styrofoam cover
that can be placed on top of the hard -packed dirt to
provide safety, feeling Council needs to direct Staff to
look into providing a better alternative than sand or
gravel and bring it back to Council.
Mayor Matteson inquired about the City's policy regarding
removing graffitti?
City Manager explained that the City has two maintenance
employees that do all of the street maintenance as well as
the parks. Generally, when complaints are received, a list
is made and it's done on a time -available basis, it's
worked into their schedule. He explained there is no set
firm policy. He stated if Council wanted Staff to look
into establishing a policy for their review, Staff will do
that, explaining it would affect the manpower if a
commitment is made to go out and take it off in a day.
Mayor Matteson questioned the average.
City Manager Schwab indicated not knowing the average,
explaining that he was unaware they had painted it back
again, feeling it might be two weeks and Vivienda Bridge
might be longer.
Mayor Matteson stated that apparently everyone has received
calls regarding the Vivienda Bridge and requested that
Staff take care of that right away.
Councilmember Singley, reported attending three committee
meetings since the last Council meeting. He shared his
feelings regarding the sign -in sheet that was distributed
to the committees, explaining that all memo's sent out to
committee's should go through all Councilmembers to be
approved and not just one Councilmember before being sent
out.
Councilmember Pfennighausen explained how the memo started,
stating that she did not direct Staff to send the memo and
it isn't her policy to go to Staff and direct them to do
anything. However, she is in support of the Staff person
that sent it, feeling it is a good idea and should be
continued.
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Mayor Matteson explained that he attended various meetings
throughout the month with the County, different cities and
groups and everyone that he attends passes out a sign -in
sheet. He did not see any problem knowing who is attending
the meetings.
Mayor Pro Tem Grant shared his feelings regarding the
sign -in sheet and method. He explained the difference
between the Council and other committees and concurred with
Councilmember Singley.
Mayor Pro Tem Grant, reported attending the Omnitrans Board
meeting on Marc 1, 1989 as alternate and attended the San
Bernardino Associates Government Transportation Commission
meeting the same day as principal member. He reported on
the San Bernardino Associated Government Commuter -rail
Committee which is being formed is being developed to
commute between Los Angeles, San Bernardino and perhaps
Redlands which will reduce the problem of I-10. He
indicated they may be selecting people that are not on that
corridor and he might be asked to sit in on that. He
reported on the Geographic Information Management System
and explained what it meant, feeling that perhaps it could
be applied to cities as well as the County Government
System.
ORAL REPORTS
5A. COMMITTEE REPORTS
PUBLIC HEARINGS
2. Crime Prevention Committee
Ed O'Neal, 22608 Minona Drive, gave a report on their
upcoming events and an update on what CorTnunity Services
Officer Kargon is doing with a request to remember her at
budget time.
6A. Consideration of Negative Declaration SA-88-2 - 24,000 s .
t. Commercial/Office Center
Community Development Director Sawyer read his Staff Report
regarding the 24,000 sq. ft. center which is to be located
on Commerce Way (APN 277-451-17). He reported that the
Planning Commission recommends Council amend the Initial
Study as stated and consider appropriate mitigation
measures before approving the Negative Declaration and that
the Planning Department recommends Council approve the
Negative Declaration as presented by Staff.
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Mayor Matteson had a question regarding the direction of
the location.
Councilmember Pfennighausen referenced the Dept. of
Transportation letter dated March 2, 1988, regarding the
plans not adequately showing how drains are to be handle
and not showing building setbacks from their undefined
right-of-way. What is an undefined right-of-way.
Community Development Director Sawyer explained that it
means the property line between Caltrans property and this
particular property owner's property. He stated that he
questioned Caltrans regarding this comment and they said
they did not always know where their properties and
right-of-ways are. They didn't want to make any comments
until it was reviewed by the Site and
Architectural Review Board. He explained that Staff is
working with Caltrans and this will be handled when the
site is actually surveyed.
Michael Atencio, Environmental Planning System, referenced
Attachment B letter, stated that the first letter addressed
did identify their concern of where the right-of-way was.
He stated that he met with Caltrans and explained the
situation to them that this was identified and the property
lines were on a recorded map. Caltrans indicated they sent
a second letter which is Attachment E and that letter
indicates that at this time they did not identify the
Interstate right-of-way in order for Caltrans to verify
where their boundaries are, but the paragraph above this
says Caltrans is not concerned with the date and time that
these conditions are met just so long as they are met prior
to the issuance of the building permit. He stated that
they will take care of this particular issue.
Councilmember Pfennighausen questioned why this was a good
project and why it should be there?
Mr. Paul Westburg, Architect, Environmental Planning
System, explained that in the City's General Plan
identifies certain types of land uses to go with certain
areas, and the land use that's being proposed is in
compliance with the General Plan. He explained that this
project will provide employment and a place to shop within
the City.
Councilmember Singley questioned if anyone had shown an
interest in renting a space within this project and if so,
who are they and what type of business are they proposing?
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Mr. Westburg, explained another project he designed and how
this project came about. They do not have any preleased
tenants at the present because they can't offer such items
until they have all of the City's approvals.
Councilmember Carlstrom, referencing Attachment A, San
Bernardino County Flood Control Easement, questioned how
the buildings are going to be arranged on that property in
relation to that easement.
Mr. Westburg, explained that the two structures proposed
are on each side of the easement and the easement goes
through the parking lot so there are no structures directly
on that easement.
Stanley Hargrave, 12048 Canary Ct., Chairman of Planning
Commission, requested Council to take the Planning
Commission's recommendation regarding the Negative
Declaration and rule in favor of their decision. He read
part of the Negative Declaration, Item 13F and 14C and
explained the Commissioners' reason for their decision.
Mr. Atencio, 329 W. State St., Redlands, stated they did an
anaFYsi's--oT the project and a commercial project such as
their 24,800 sq. ft. will generate approximately 115
vehicle trips per day. The studies prepared by Wildan &
Associates, focusing on Commerce Way, southeast area of the
City, indicates that the traffic volume is going to be
18,290 on Commerce Way and the report indicates that the
southwest area will result in 31,148 additional vehicle
trips, the net increase of 24,185 vehicle trips for the
General Plan area and our project is within the General
Plan area and we will contribute 115 vehicles toward that
number and they are willing to work with mitigation
measures that would be required. The mitigation measures
that you have on board as the City develops are to provide
for signalization and widening of various streets
throughout the City to deal with this particular traffic.
This project will be attributing approximately $6,000 to
the school because of the 25 cent sq. ft. for commercial
development and they can perhaps use that money to deal
with the noise factor with the district.
Mayor Matteson asked how can you tell how many cars will be
generated if you don't know what type of business will be
located there?
Mr. Atencio explained that this is based on the Institute
of Transportation Engineering Trips Generation Manual for
urban land uses.
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Stanley Hargrave, pointed out that regarding traffic
pattern, the studies done by Wildan & Associates are based
off of the study that was done in 1985, so there is at
least a 3-year minimum time period that have lapsed.
Mr. Paul Westburg, stated that his practice is basically a
school practice, explaining the school district should
approach another alternative other than assessing the
private sector for these improvements, there are other
alternatives through the local systems or State funding.
Councilmember Singley stated that he did not like to go
against the Planning Commission, but he talked to Community
Development Director Sawyer, looked at the Plans and
investigated a couple areas, he did not feel the school
should hold the City and developers back and stop
commercial development in this City. He felt the school
had an opportunity to negotiate with the City for certain
improvements and during that time they did not mention the
sound wall, but they did get air conditioners. He
indicated not being able to go with a "yes" change and will
have to support the Planning Department. Regarding 13F, he
felt the developers when they developed this project went
with the only written information they have and the zoning
give them certain guidelines which he felt they followed
and he did not feel the City should not hold up a
development of that one project, therefore, he is against
changing that to a "yes" vote also.
Councilmember Pfennighausen shared her concerns and
feelings regarding Negative Declarations; School District
obligations; children safety; location of the Grand Terrace
Elementary School; commercial developments in the City;
goals the City should work towards and eating
establishments being allowed to serve alcoholic beverage.
She questioned if Orco Tool put in a sidewalk in front of
their business.
City Engineer Kicak replied that he did not believe it was
in the Agreement for a sidewalk, and he did not recall if
there was one there now.
Councilmember Pfennighausen shared her feelings regarding
sidewalks in deferment agreements and asked for information
regarding whether this commercial development is being
required to put in sidewalks. She questioned if the
Forestry and Fire Warden was satisfied with the driveways
in this development?
Community Development Director Sawyer replied that the Fire
Department gave the final approval and any changes that are
necessary will be done in the Plans prior to Building
Permits.
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Councilmember Singley wanted to know who has to provide
mitigation course of action?
City Attorney Harper explained that it pertains to the
yard -stick by which the Negative Declaration is measured.
You adopted the General Plan and as part of the General
Plan and you did a variety of zoning. You considered an
Environmental Impact Report (EIR) which pertains to that
zoning. What this Negative Declaration does is use that
zoning standard, the one you already approved and the one
that's already subjected to EIR as the standard by which to
measure "yes's or no's." What you do, and the purpose
of CEQA is to compare it with what the permissible uses are
in the zone that you've already adopted in the EIR,
Circulation Plan and General Plan. So, it's legitimate to
say, "no" there is no significant environmental impact.
Councilmember Pfennighausen felt it is encumbant upon a
legislative body to also look to the future and see when
they are adopting Plans what kinds of impacts they are
going to immediately have to face and in the long range
have to face. I want to see the project and our commercial
area opened up. She stated that she did not feel
comfortable in adopting the Negative Declaration that the
Planning Department is asking.
Mayor Matteson stated that in light of what City Attorney
Harper brought out as far as the Negative Declaration, he
was going to move to approve the Planning Department
recommendation with the set of conditions as listed.
CC-89-33 MOTION BY MAYOR MATTESON, SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER SINGLEY, to
approve the Planning Department's recommendation with the set of
conditions as listed.
Mayor Pro Tem Grant shared his feelings regarding the
Negative Declaration and concurred with the motion.
Motion CC-89-33 carried 4-1 (with Councilmember
Pfennighausen voting NOE), to approve the Planning
Department's recommendation with the set of conditions as
listed.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
7A. Agreement To Defer Public Improvements On A Sin le-famil
Home Located at 11645 Grand Terrace Court Hieb
Community Development Director Sawyer read his Staff Report
regarding dealing with the 5-year limitation on when the
City can appropriately call the improvements due. The
Agreement has been amended, but does not have that
limitation time -period in it.
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CC-89-34 MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER PFENNIGHAUSEN, SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER
SINGLEY, that the Lien Agreement be drawn as presented by the
Attorney.
Mayor Matteson asked City Attorney Harper if this leaves
this open at anytime that the City desires and does it pass
on as the property is sold?
City Attorney Harper replied, yes to both questions.
Motion CC-89-34 carried 5-0.
7B. Award Contract for Demolition of Garden Home Apartments
City Manager Schwab read his Staff Report regarding
demolishing the Garden Home Apartments. He stated that
Council did appropriate $20,000 in the past for the work
and staff is recommending Council award the contract to All
Pro Construction for $25,600, direct the City Clerk to
place a lien on the property for that amount for recovery
in the future and to appropriate an additional $5,600.00
from the General Fund Unappropriated Balance to bring it up
to a total of $25,600.00.
CC-89-35 MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM GRANT, SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER
PFENNIGHAUSEN, to approve Staff's recommendation of awarding the
demolition contract to All Pro Construction Company for demolishing
the Garden Home Apartments. 0
NEW BUSINESS
8A. Contract for Public Relations and Media Services
City Manager Schwab read his Staff Report regarding a
proposal from Copeland & Associates to provide public
relations and media communication services on an as -needed
basis. He stated that Staff is recommending that Council
approve entering into a Consultant Agreement for a trial
period of six months for the described services and
evaluate its effectiveness in six months to determine its
potential and to appropriate $3,000 from the Unappropriated
General Fund Balance.
Mayor Pro Tem Grant asked if Highland or Loma Linda had
been contacted regarding their feelings about Copeland &
Associates?
City Manager Schwab explained that both cities have only
been in involved with Copeland & Associates for about a
month or month and a half.
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Mayor Pro Tem Grant wanted to know if this was something
the City could do?
City Manager Schwab felt Staff could do something similar,
but felt time spent would probably be more than $500.00 a
month and we do not have the equipment needed.
Councilmember Carlstrom stated that this will give us
better exposure to promote our City.
Councilmember Singley felt a need to wait approximately
three months before approving this recommendation.
Jim Copeland, President of Copeland & Associate, informed
Council that his company has been in existence for
approximately two years. He stated that he has done public
relations work for the City of Loma Linda and the City of
Highland. He felt, while he owned Foothill Journal that he
had a pretty good track record, providing quality news
coverage for our City.
Councilmember Carlstrom felt Mr. Copeland has been very
visible in the community and would give us our money's
worth if we decide to go with him.
Mayor Matteson felt Mr. Copeland did a good job with the
Foothill Journal as far as giving out good coverage. In
reference to Councilmember Singley's comments, budget time
will come up in June and if we give Mr. Copeland a try now,
it could be decided in June whether or not to continue.
Mr. Dennis Evans, 22064 DeBerry, asked City Manager Schwab
if he personally felt this type of service would be a
benefit to this community and asked for justification?
City Manager Schwab replied, "yes", and currently because
we are a little city, the coverage tends to be somewhat
less than what it deserves and the community deserves an
opportunity to have a trial period of six months.
Mr. Evans, asked City Manager Schwab to share with the
community how much money the City pays the Foothill Journal
for the ad we currently have.
City Manager Schwab replied, approximately $400.00 a month.
Mr. Evans asked if this more than what we currently have in
the ad.
City Manager Schwab stated this will not replace the ad,
the Agenda would continue to be put in the Foothill
Journal.
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Mr. Evans had some concerns referencing the money that is
being spent, felt if Mr. Copeland is hired, the Foothill
Journal should be terminated. He inquired if a Request for
Proposals been sent out to give all an opportunity to bid
for the service.
City Manager Schwab explained that has not been a
competitive bid situation, it's a professional service that
was proposed to us, but if the City Council wishes to
direct Staff to solicit a Request for Proposals, Staff will
do that.
Mr. Evans felt a Request for Proposal is the correct route
to take.
Councilmember Singley, felt if we are going to into a
public relations firm, the proper process would be to
solicit.
Mr. Copeland stated as far as he understood, the proposal
is just for when the City felt there was a need to have the
service provided to them. It is my understanding by Loma
Linda that it would fall under consultant type work and
did not need a bid. He stated that he became involved by
City Councilmembers saying they wanted to have some control
and be able to put out some positive media out on their
city and get good coverage.
Mr. Evans stated that providing the services that Mr.
Copeland has brought before you is a good idea, what he is
saying is if you are going to hire a consultant, it is fair
to go out for a competitive bid.
Mr. John R. Taylor, 22843 Vista Grande Way, asked City
Manager Schwab to share what the expectations would be for
the $500.00 and also if you have considered giving the
Chamber of Commerce funds for their publicity committee if
the have one.
City Manager Schwab explained that the City supports the
Chamber 100 percent by giving them $30,000.00 per year to
assist in their activities. He stated that when he attends
meetings and people look at his name tag, they ask where is
Grand Terrace, so it's those types of things we are trying
to overcome, some community identity. We want to get
exposure in the newspaper locally so people can identify
where is Grand Terrace because we are proud of our City.
He felt $500.00 a month to get that type of exposure is a
small price to pay if we can get that kind of exposure. We
are looking at it on a trial basis.
Councilmember Singley had concern about conflict between
the cities when working with the same consultant.
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City Manager Schwab explained that one of the future goals
is the future child care program which is something that
you don't really see in this area. We want people to look
` at the image of Grand Terrace and see it as a quality
community.
Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen felt that if we wait until
budget time, we still haven't seen a track record, but
supported entering into a contract at this time on a trial
basis, but reserved the right to have a change of mind at
the upcoming fiscal year budget time if there is a need.
Mayor Matteson asked City Attorney Harper if we could enter
into this type of contract without going out to bid?
City Attorney Harper replied, yes, it's a consultant
agreement. The only public bidding requirements contained
in the Code are for public works projects.
Councilmember Pfennighausen stated that we are talking
about doing something for six months that obligates two
months into another budget year. If we are going to do it
at all, it should not extend past three months. As a point
of clarification, do I understand that we don't need to
appropriate $3,000.00 because we don't know whether Jim is
going to do $3,000.00 worth of work, if it's time and
material?
Mrs. Pe Taylor, 22843 Vista Grande Way, inquired how
o ten the Agenda ad is ran in the Foothill Journal?
City Manager Schwab explained that since we contracted with
the Foothill Journal it has run every single week that we
had a Council meeting. Since the Foothill Journal sold,
they get an Agenda package every week and they have been
just publishing our Agenda. This is the first meeting
since the Foothill Journal changed hands and the new owners
did not know that they automatically publish our Agenda.
It didn't show up this week, it won't happen again and
there will be an adjustment on the bill.
Mrs. Taylor asked who sits on the RFP Committee?
City Manager Schwab explained there is no formal RFP
Committee, it just depends on what area it pertains to.
Generally, it's him and if it has something to do with
Planning, the Planning Development Director will sit on it,
if it has something to do with road maintenance, the
Assistant City Manager usually sits on it.
Mrs. Taylor asked if one person could make a decision on
the RFP's that is presented and the low bid is always
taken?
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City Manager Schwab explained that the low bid is not
always taken. We just recently contracted for the housing
element and we took the second to the lowest bid. In
public works projects there is a tendency because they do
provide performance bonds to take the low bid because they
are providing the bond that says they will do the job.
Under the consultant contracts, it's not always low bid.
Mrs. Taylor inquired if the interviews were personal or
were they strictly on the RFP itself?
City Manager Schwab explained that generally they are
personal interviews. It depends on the scope and level of
the job. Our RFP for the fire engine have many people who
are back east; much of it will be done by telephone.
Mrs. Taylor stated that the reason she was asking this is
because she did hear a little undercurrent that many of the
Council people have such a great friendship with this
gentleman, who she did not know, that he might get the bid
if it went through RFP because he knew everyone on the
Council. She stated that the reason she is inquiring was
because she wanted to know if the City has ever considered
forming a separate entity that would consist of more than
one person for an RFP Committee?
City Manager Schwab stated that in the five years he has
been here, to his knowledge it has never been considered.
Mayor Matteson addressed Mrs. Taylor's comment regarding
conflict, stated that he has never been in any organization
that is as straight as the City Council here, they don't
spend a dime, they don't turn in expense reports, they
spend a lot of their own money.
Mrs. Taylor stated that she wasn't referring to that, she
was only saying for Council's own protection because it
would only have to happen one time, if they have ever
considered having an RFP Committee.
Councilmember Singley, addressing Mr. Copeland, stated that
he made a statement that by contracting with Highland and
Loma Linda the City might put him in conflict at times.
For instance, we are having a Safety Fair on June 5th and
the City of Loma Linda is having one the same day, how are
you going to deal with that?
Mr. Copeland stated that it depends on what role you want
me to play in that fair. If I was just sending out news
releases saying it is going to happen, there would be no
conflict. If I was trying to bring in the Sheriff's Staff
to get involved or something like that, the only thing I
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could do is give you the advice of whoever is planning it
first to let you know there is a conflict that the Sheriff
won't be available or whatever the case may be. I don't
think that that's a problem as far as my role would go.
Generally, I'm going to handle the public relations on it
and try to get the word out that it's happening to the Sun,
Press, radio or whatever media.
Mr. Ed O'Neal, 22608 Minona Drive, was in favor of
contracting with Mr. Copeland.
CC-89-35 MOTION BY MAYOR MATTESON, SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM GRANT (Motion
carried 4-0-0-1 with COUNCILMEMBER PFENNIGHAUSEN ABSTAINED), to
enter into four months contract with Mr. Copeland and appropriate
$2,000.00 from the Unappropriated Fund Balance.
8B. Lighting Construction & Maintenance District
City Manager Schwab read his Staff Report regarding
installation of street lights. He stated that Staff is
recommending Council to authorize Staff to prepare all
necessary documents and proceed with the formation of a
Grand Terrace Lighting Construction and Maintenance
District and to allocate the $35,000.00 from the General
Fund to allow us to do all of the preliminary assessment
work necessary to bring it back to the Council for a Public
Hearing.
CC-89-37 MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER SINGLEY, SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM GRANT, to
accept Staff's recommendations and approved it as proposed.
Councilmember Pfennighausen shared her and some residents
of this community feelings regarding the assessment issue.
She felt the voters needed to have a chance to express
their desires on this issue and if people in certain areas
wished to form an Assessment District, that's possible to
do.
City Attorney Harper stated that this will be formed under
the 1972 Street Lighting Landscaping District Act and it
requires mail notices to the property owners and a Public
Hearing. Regarding some residents being interested in
street lights and some not being interested, you are not
obligated to put street lights everywhere. The Code
requires that assessments be based upon benefits, so that
if one section of the town didn't want lights and Council
didn't think lights were appropriate, then those people
wouldn't be assessed. It doesn't preclude the energy cost
for common lighting from being spread throughout the
community.
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Councilmember Pfennighausen stated that the presentation
from the City Manager is that we will do the assessment or
we won't. She felt the people have spoken loudly on this
issue prior to this. She stated that she understands that
every property owner will be notified and will be have an
opportunity to come before a Public Hearing to express
their thoughts and desires. She explained that it has been
her observation over the years that she has been involved
in government that Public Hearings do not get good
response. People are intimidated by them and as a result
of that, there are usually a very vocal minority of people
that manage to put the pressure on the legislatures to get
something done.
Mayor Matteson concurred with Councilmember Pfennighausen,
he hated to see that $35,000.00 spent and go down the
drain. He stated he would rather see some type of survey
to find out if it's going to be a functional thing and the
desire of the citizens. There are a lot of streets that
need lighting. He felt rather than risk that $35,000.00 we
should do a survey and find out if it is something that we
sell and if it isn't, then maybe we can do sections of the
City, but everybody should have that opportunity to express
their desires. If we don't have the majority of the City,
it's going to be defeated.
Councilmember Singley, felt there would be a lot of
response to this issue during the public Hearing. He felt
that Council needs to realize that there are certain
liabilities in not acting in a positive manner. He felt
this program could be sold to the citizens because this is
a needed expense to make our City a nicer environment.
Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen felt there are two ways in
order to accomplish this, the people can scream and holler
and say that they don't want it, but the ultimate decision
sits with this Council in the formation of that district.
All the Public Hearing does is meet a legal process and
give Council input, but it is up to Council to make that
decision in the end.
Mayor Matteson inquired if what Councilmember Pfennighausen
said was true regarding the ultimate decision on creating
that district.
City Attorney Harper replied, "yes." If 50 percent plus of
the people in the community file a written protest, then it
dies.
City Manager Schwab stated that it's parcel not people.
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City Engineer Kicak explained that protest is measured by
area of the property and if more than 50 percent plus
area property owners protest, the District cannot proceed.
That doesn't say that the City Council has to approve a
District with less than 50 percent protest.
Mayor Matteson asked if he was saying that one man that has
ten acres has as much voice as a subdivision in ten acres.
The response was, yes.
City Attorney Harper shared his experiences with other
agencies who have tried to establish street lighting
landscaping districts and the difficulty is in explaining
adequately what you are attempting to do and what the costs
are when you haven't gone through the process of getting
the cost. He stated what the City Engineer is guessing
what the actual assessments are going to be and it's
difficult for people to say anything other than "no" when
it's kind of an open-ended question.
Councilmember Pfennighausen stated that twice tonight I've
heard comments regarding the tragic death of a lady on
Barton Road and the reason for her death is being cited as
inadequate lighting. She stated that if her memory serves
her correctly, at the time Council questioned what was the
implication of her death and what were the things the City
needed to be concerned about because that lady was hit by
an employee of this City. She stated that accident had
absolutely nothing to do with lighting, the lady was
disoriented, moving into traffic and the girl that hit her
couldn't avoid her at all. She felt if it goes as
explained in certain areas of the City it will lose because
the majority of new construction is required to put in
street lights. The area under consideration is the older
area and they don't have 50 percent of the land area in the
City.
City Manager Schwab clarified if he misled any member of
the Council, I should have said that I feel that that
contributed to the death of that individual. Had it been
in broad daylight or had flood lights been up and down
Barton Road, maybe she wouldn't have gotten hit. As a
general rule, having lights is probably safer than not
having lights from a pedestrian's standpoint.
Motion CC-89-37 carried 4-1 (With Councilmember
Pfennighausen voting NOE).
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8C. Arrangements for Community Goal -Setting Workshop
This item was continued to the next City Council meeting in
order to allow Council a chance to review Councilmember
Pfennighausen's proposal for the Community Goal -Setting
Workshop.
8D. Council Consideration of Telephone Undergrounding at Barton
and LaCrosse
City Manager Schwab explained that the current retail
commercial development at LaCrosse and Barton Road is
required, as part of their improvements, to underground the
telephone trunk cable that fronts their property from
LaCross west to Grand Terrace Road. The City has been
approached by the developer, Keeney and Son, to cooperate
in a joint effort to continue the undergrounding from Grand
Terrace Road west to the Southern Pacific Railroad
right-of-way. He stated that Staff recommends that Council
authorize joint undergrounding of the Pacific Telephone
Trunk Line Cable from LaCrosse east to the railroad
right-of-way and appropriate $16,024.00 for the City's
share of the project.
CC-89-38 MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER PFENNIGHAUSEN, SECOND BY MAYOR MATTESON,
CARRIED 5-0, to approve Staff's recommendation.
8E. Appropriation for Legal Fees - Cities vs. Garb Oil
City Attorney Harper explained that this issue pertains to
a tire burning lawsuit. We participated with the County
and other cities in the vicinity in prosecuting this
lawsuit. We were unsuccessful the first time. It's the
unanimous feelings of all the cities involved as well as
their legal council that we file a petition with the
Supreme Court. Grand Terrace participates in 1/18 of the
cost of prosecuting the lawsuit and it's anticipated that
the additional cost would be a maximum of $35,000.00 making
the percentage approximately $2,000.00. Based upon the
discussion last week, it is my recommendation that you
appropriate $2,000.00 to continue to prosecute the lawsuit.
CC-89-39 MOTION BY MAYOR MATTESON, SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER SINGLEY, to
appropriate $2,000.00 for legal fees.
Mayor Pro Tem Grant stated that since he was unable to
attend that meeting, he questioned if was anything else
took place.
Mayor Matteson explained that it was the consensus to
appeal the lawsuit and to go back to the trial court and
file on four other issues. Our chances for appeal are very
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slim, but we have better chance of going back to trial
court. It was the consensus of all the legal councils to
go ahead and fight this all the way.
Motion CC-89-39 carried 5-0.
Mayor Matteson asked City Attorney Harper to notify the
proper authority that we have approved this.
Mayor Matteson adjourned the City Council meeting at 9:10
p.m., until the next Regular City Council/CRA meeting which
will is scheduled to be held Thursday, March 23, 1989 at
6:00 p.m.
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