04/13/1989CITY COUNCIL MINUTES
REGULAR MEETING - APRIL 13, 1989
A regular meeting of the City Council of the City of Grand Terrace was called
to order in the Council Chambers, Grand Terrace Civic Center, 22795 Barton
Road, Grand Terrace, California, on April 13, 1989, at 6:00 p.m.
PRESENT: Byron Matteson, Mayor
Hugh J. Grant, Mayor Pro Tem
Barbara Pfennighausen, Councilmember
Jim Singley, Councilmember
Gene Carlstrom, Councilmember
Thomas J. Schwab, City Manager/Finance Director
Randall Anstine, Assistant City Manager
John Harper, City Attorney
David Sawyer, Community Development Director
Juanita Brown, Deputy City Clerk
Joe Kicak, City Engineer
ABSENT: None
The meeting was opened with invocation by Reverend Dale Goddard, Inland
Christian Center, followed by the Pledge of Allegiance led by Councilmember
Pfennighausen.
Mayor Matteson convened City Council meeting at 6:05 p.m.
Mayor Matteson reconvened City Council meeting at 6:10 p.m.
ITEMS TO DELETE
None.
SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS
2A. Mayor Matteson Presented Dick Rollins with a
Proclamation for his many hours of civic service.
2B. Tony Petta explained the objectives of the "Pride of
Home" awards and presented the participants to the
Mayor for their awards.
Bea Gigandet
Mr. & Mrs. John Helt
Mrs. Debbie Harber
CONSENT CALENDAR
CC-89-49 MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM GRANT, SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER
PFENNIGHAUSEN, CARRIED 5-0, to approve the remainder of the Consent
Calendar with the removal of Item F. 0
A. APPROVE CHECK REGISTER NO. 041389
ITEM FOR DISCUSSION
B. RATIFY 4/13/89 CRA ACTION
C. WAIVE FULL READING OF ORDINANCES ON AGENDA
D. APPROVE 3/23/89 MINUTES
E. CITY MANAGER'S ATTENDANCE AT THE 1989 LEGISLATIVE
SEMINAR
3F. BOND RELEASE - FOREST CITY - PHASE I
Mayor Pro Tem Grant indicated that he wanted this
item voted on separately so he could go on record
opposing it.
CC-89-50 MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER PFENNIGHAUSEN, SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER
SINGLEY, CARRIED 3-2 (MAYOR MATTESON AND MAYOR PRO TEM GRANT VOTED
NOE), to release the bonds on Forest City Grand Terrace, Phase I.
PUBLIC PARTICIPATION
None.
ORAL REPORTS
5A. COMMITTEE REPORTS
1. Crime Prevention Committee
Dick Rollins, 22700 DeBerry St., reported that the
June 4th Safety Fair is progressing and would like
Council to help in any way they can to make this a
successful event.
2. Emergency Operations Committee
Council accepted the Minutes of January 23, 1989.
3. Historical & Cultural Committee
Council accepted the Minutes of March 7, 1989.
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5B. COUNCIL REPORTS
Councilmember Pfenni hausen, suggested that the Public
Hearing Notices, which are sent to the residents, have a
brief description of the topic to be addressed in language
that is easy to understand.
Mayor Pro Tem Grant, reported that he attended the
Omnitrans Board meeting as the alternate on the 5th of
April and the County Transportation Commission SANBAG
meeting as the principal on the same day. He indicated
that he was also appointed to the Commuter Rail Committee
of the SANBAG on the governing board.
Mayor Pro tem Grant requested an analysis of the benefits
the City is receiving as a member of SANBAG.
Mayor Matteson, asked the City Attorney to explain what the
City can do regarding the billboard issue.
Ci ty Attorney Harper, explained that billboards are
classified as off -site signage and you can't do away with
them, although, the City can impose restrictions on the
size and design to ensure nice signs and charge a business
license fee.
Mayor Matteson requested that the City Manager investigate
and make a proposal to Council at their next meeting.
NEW BUSINESS
8A. Report on Plexco Industries in Colton.
City Manager Schwab, reported that he and the Mayor were
given a tour of the facility and gave a report of his
findings.
Mayor Matteson indicated that he found it to be a very
clean operation and recommended that the other
Councilmembers and interested residents tour the facility.
Councilmember Pfennighausen had concerns regarding the
safety of the facility and suggested that those who have
concerns continue to watch the operation.
PUBLIC HEARING
6A. Planning Commission Recommendation to Adopt Z-89-1.
Community Development Director Sawyer presented his staff
report and approched the map pointing out various changes
in the zoning. He went through the Zoning Ordinance
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stating proposed changes using view graphs for the
residential area.
Mayor Matteson opened the discussion to the public.
Chauncey Eller, 23100 Vista Grande Way, Grand Terrace; We
bought our property in 1955, started building, and moved in
in 1957. Last fall we decided to sell a piece of our
property. About that time is when we got the overlay area
maps showing that we were in the overlay. Our property is
in section 8 and it had been established that this would be
zoned R 20,000. I attended the Planning Commission meeting
and Mr. Sawyer indicated that perhaps I would be able to
get a variance and recommended that I attend the meeting
tonight. I have some sketches to pass out. If you will
note, the dotted line represents the south edge of the
Southern California Edison easement and you can see where
we have our dwelling. I built that within 6 inches of the
easement, and in that easement you can't build a structure
above or below the ground, nor can you put a hard surface
driveway. You will note where I have the proposed lot
size. I could go back a little further to the east and get
10,000 sq. ft., but if I have to stick to 20,000, then I
would have to go to the north across the driveway under the
easement, way back to the edge of our property. Then I
could get the 20,000, but that would cut us off from the
road. We would have to build a road down along the side,
which would not be acceptable at all. Therefore, I
respectfully request that you return section 8 to R 7,200
or if you have to increase it, don't go beyond 10,000
square feet.
Councilmember Single stated that he had met with Mr. Eller
and did some investigation and contacted a Dr. Darwin, who
did not agree and had some severe concerns regarding Mr.
Eller's lot split and suggest that Mr. Eller contact Dr.
Darwin to discuss this.
Mr. Eller agreed.
Community Development Director Sawyer explained the
agricultural overlay proposal.
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not to continue. The original tentative map in effect
graded the entire 80 acres from the top of the property at
its highest point to the bottom. We recognize that
subsequent to that time hillside areas have become more
socially sensitive, and I think that the staff will
acknowledge that we've submitted two or three different
schemes just for study purposes. I did submit comments in
writing to the Planning Commission that I think rezoning
property in hillside areas to an arbitrary configuration of
one acre really destroys the capacity to plan the
property. We have no objection to the sensitivity of the
hillside, and would expect to develop the property in
keeping with those concerns. However, when we're now being
faced with the rezoning that in effect establishes a
density of 80 units maximum, we're placed in the position
of coming in for a reduction in lot size by using a
specific plan procedure. If the zoning were left alone you
could utilize the laws that you already have, primarily the
subdivision map act, which almost mandates you to deny
property development that's not compatible with topography.
We now can use lot size in the more developable portion of
the property that allows us to acquire the yield that is
necessary for us to continue with the economic development
of the property. We have been before the Planning
Commission and it was alluded to a night that the hillside
overlay is following this zone. You couple those two
together and in effect this property may be undevelopable
with all of the anticipated laws. It was explained to us
by the Planning Commisssion that the specific plan does
allow us to come in and create a unique zone for the
property and that the intended zoning that's before us
tonight in effect establishes a yield as opposed to lot
deminsions that's critical to us. I'm not sure what the
yield does to us because we haven't analyzed the property
with an 80-lot development. We would prefer that the
zoning be left in tact and that if it is your desire that
we plan these hills in a way that's sensitive to the
hillside itself, that we be allowed to do that without
looking down the barrell of 150 to 200 ft. lots. That
certainly is the element position that the City has the
opportunity to take.
Gene McMeans, Riverside Highland Water Co., 1450 Washington
St., Colton; indicated that he would like to see Council
follow staff's recommendation.
Bill McKeever, 12714 Blue Mountain Ct., Grand Terrace; I
would like to see the overlay considered for area 11. We
live there on a 1 1/2-acre parcel and we have horses. I am
concerned about losing the ability to have animals there
because the property is developed to provide for that, and
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�or�p the ability would constitute a loss in value of the
Barney Kar, er, 11668 Bernardo Way, Grand Terrace; I live in
area 8. I recently found out that I live in an area that is
zoned 7,200 sq. ft. I think we need more communication
with the people of this City so you can be aware of what we
want. I don't trust that the Blue Mountain Court area
will get an agricultural overlay. If you're going to pass
this thing lets pass it with the agricultural overlay at
that time. Many years ago, area 8 north of Barton Rd., was
zoned out of its horses and its cattle and goats, so that
we couldn't get rid of our animals and get them back later
legally. Area 8 north of Barton Rd. and area 11 should be
allowed to have animals. I don't know why we're dropping
the Planned Urban Development (PUD) designation, it should
be left in for the benefit of the people. I believe, in
the past, the state required 20 units to the acre, this is
not being complied with. I recommend that you do more
research on this issue.
Dennis Kidd, 22874 Pico St., Grand Terrace; my property is
currently -being used for agriculture and I would like to
see it remain zoned for agriculture.
Bill Addington, 12055 Westwood Ln., Grand Terrace; the
piece that I will address is parcel 9. It wraps around and
takes its access from Westwood Dr. in Honey Hills. Our
concern in Honey Hills is that it develop consistent with
the property that is already there. Honey Hills has been
developed at about one unit per acre. I was pleased that
the City showed a lot of concern for that hillside
property. I'm in favor of that 40,000 sq. ft. zone. I
think it is consistent. I do request that in general all
of the minimum lot sizes in the residential zones for the
City are the same, 1,350. However, I appreciate the fact
that not everybody that wants to build on a lot wants to
build 2,600 or 3,600 ft., but I think that as a general
rule you'll find that there is a 2,600 sq. ft. minimum in
that area. I certainly wouldn't ask the Planning
Commission or City Council to make that a hard fast rule
that would not permit someone to do something slightly less
than that, but I think it would be appropriate for the
minimum lot size in the R1-40 to be 2,600 sq. ft.
_Mary Anderson, 22872 Main St., Grand Terrace; I have the
52-acre parcel at the south of Main in the current
agricultural zone. The one thing I have not heard about
tonight is the density transfer that would allow the
acreage on the part of the mountain that is deemed
undevelopable to be transfered to the lower portion, which
is better developable. I discussed several concepts with
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Mr. Sawyer and including 10,000 sq. ft. lots 15,000, 20 and
40 lending itself to the various areas in order to achieve
the maximum yield out of 52 acres, where only about half of
it can be used. So, I feel comfortable with it so long as
it is all under the specific plan, which is a fairly
protective measure. I would like to keep the Al overlay.
Mar orie McQuory stated that she has 3 1/4 acres, which
borders Gage Canal. She stated that her lender told her
that if she wants to do any extensive repairs she probably
could not increase her loan because of a nonconforming use
if rezoned from agricultural, and asked if anyone knew
anything about this.
Cit Attorney Harper replied that he cannot speak for a
bank, but common sense says that if you have security you
could increase your loan. He was sure any bank would loan
her money; home improvement loans are the easiest loans to
get.
Community Development Director Sawyer stated that if she
needed something from the City for her lender, we would be
happy to help her.
Mayor Matteson recessed City Council meeting at 8:25 p.m.
Mayor Matteson reconvened City Council meeting at 8:31 p.m.
Councilmember Pfennighausen stated in relation to living
area - minimum square feet - multiple family - "studio,"
that she wanted studio removed from the Code due to the
fact that it is unrealistic to develop an 800-square foot
room. A studio apartment, in our code, has to have the
same amount of square feet as a one -bedroom apartment. She
hoped Council would seriously consider removing "Studio
Apartments" from the Code completely. Therefore, we would
only be able to build one -bedroom or two -bedroom
apartments.
Ma or Matteson felt it should be left in since it is
addressed; 7 as to be addressed some place.
Mayor Pro Tem Grant felt it should be left in, but agreed
with ounce member Pfennighausen that to make it the same
square footage as a one -bedroom apartment is absurd.
Councilmember Pfennighausen asked, if left in, could the
square ootage be reduced to 650 square feet.
Mayor Pro Tem Grant agreed.
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Councilmember Carlstrom asked what do you do about the
additional dwelling that is not allowed the kitchen, but it
is allowed a living room and sleeping space in the living
room?
Councilmember Pfenni hausen replied that is clearly defined
in the Code as a guest house.
Community Development Director Sawyer explained that a
guest house is a detached structure that does not have a
kitchen.
Councilmember Single stated that he agreed with
Councilmember P ennig ausen, and suggested that maybe it
could be listed as a footnote.
CC-89-51 MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER CARLSTROM, SECOND BY MAYOR MATTESON, FAILED
3-2 (MAYOR MATTESON AND COUNCILMEMBER CARLSTROM VOTING AYE), to
leave in studio apartments.
CC-89-52 MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER PFENNIGHAUSEN, SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER
SINGLEY, CARRIED 3-2 (MAYOR MATTESON AND COUNCILMEMBER CARLSTROM
VOTING NOE), that the designation of studio apartments under
multiple family be removed from our Code.
CC-89-53 MOTION BY MAYOR MATTESON, SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER SINGLEY, CARRIED
5-0, to add a footnote to table 18.12.030, which clarifies multiple
family dwellings as 1,2 and 3 bedroom units only.
Because of major concerns with the documents as presented, some
changes were suggested and it was returned to staff for rework;
therefore,
CC-89-54 MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER PFENNIGHAUSEN, SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER
CARLSTROM, CARRIED 5-0, that Sections 18.12, 18.15, 18.18, 18.2,
and 18.24, in relation to residential zoning, be continued to May
11, 1989.
CC-89-55 MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER PFENNIGHAUSEN, SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER
SINGLEY, CARRIED 5-0, that Section 18.09, in relation to the Zoning
Map, be continued to May 11, 1989.
CC-89-56 MOTION BY MAYOR MATTESON, SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM GRANT, CARRIED
5-0, that Section 18.60, in relation to the City's Off -Street
Parking, be continued to April 27, 1989.
6B. Appeal of Planning Commission Decision SA-88-17 (California
Spirits).
Councilmember Carlstrom left Council table due to a
potential conflict of interest.
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Community Development Director Sawyer, gave a report and
made a recommendation that ounce deny the applicant's
appeal.
Terry Haden, Haden Architects, 506 N. Eureka, Redlands;
stated that the problems at this point with the project in
terms of the design are fairly minute. It became clear at
the early Planning Commission level that the question was
not one of design execution, but whether the project was
desirable. We certainly have no problem in working with
the City to make whatever architectural enhancements the
City requires if this were determined to be an acceptable
project. What we have here is a couple of small guys who
bought a piece of property that they wanted to develop.
They've been penalized now for some period of time. Their
property is now under a cloud, in that they can't develop
it, they can't even sell it because the property has no use
based on the current decision of the Planning Commission.
Stan Ceratola, California Spirits; We purchased the
property two years ago. At that time the point was brought
up that we were in our right to build and we had the proper
zoning and we could do this. So we came up with the money
and purchased the property because we had an approval from
the City. We waited a year and decided to go ahead with
this, now it has been two years. I don't think its fair to
be kept waiting.
Council concurred that the project is not in the best
interest of the City at this time.
CC-89-57 MOTION BY MAYOR MATTESON, SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM GRANT, CARRIED
4-0-0-1 (COUNCILMEMBER CARLSTROM ABSTAINING), to deny the appeal.
ORDER OF ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Matteson adjourned the City Council meeting at 9:50 p.m.,
until the next regular City Council/CRA meeting, which is scheduled
to be held Thursday, April 27, 1989.
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