07/16/1991CITY OF GRAND TERRACE
CITY COUNCIL MINUTES
SPECIAL MEETING - JULY 16, 1991
A special meeting of the City Council of the City of Grand Terrace was called
to order in the Council Chambers, Grand Terrace Civic Center, 22795 Barton
Road, Grand Terrace, California, on July 16, 1991 at 6:00 p.m.
PRESENT: Byron Matteson, Mayor
Hugh J. Grant, Mayor Pro Tem
Gene Carlstrom, Councilmember
Ronald Christianson, Councilmember
Herman Hilkey, Councilmember
Thomas J. Schwab, City Manager/Finance Director
Randall Anstine, Assistant City Manager
Patrizia Materassi, Planning Director
Brenda Stanfill, Deputy City Clerk
John Harper, City Attorney
Joe Kicak, City Engineer
ABSENT:
None
r
The meeting was
Pfennighausen, followed
opened
with invocation by former Councilmember Barbara
by the Pledge of Allegiance led by Councilmember
Christianson.
Mayor
Matteson convened City Council meeting at 6:00 p.m.
Mayor
Matteson reconvened City Council meeting at 6:10 p.m.
CONSENT CALENDAR
CC-91-119 MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER CARLSTROM, SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER
CHRISTIANSON, CARRIED 5-0, to approve the Consent Calendar.
A. APPROVE CHECK REGISTER NOS. 063091 & 071191
B. RATIFY 07/16/91 CRA ACTION
C. WAIVE FULL READING OF ORDINANCES ON AGENDA
D. APPROVE 06/27/91 MINUTES
PUBLIC COMMENT
Barbara Pfenni hausen, 22111 Ladera St., Grand Terrace; cited the City
Manager's statement, from the June 27, 1991 City Council Meeting,
whereby he which indicated that the abandoned trailer at the mobilehome
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park at the junction of Barton and Grand Terrace Roads would be removed
within ten days, and she pointed out that the coach has not been
moved. Expressing chagrin, she inquired as to the City's plan to
resolve the matter.
Cit Manager Schwab,
violation of the ten
the situation will be
demolish the trailer,
for the dumping fees.
ORAL REPORTS
5B. Council Reports
concurred that the mobilehome park owner is in
day notice but reassured Ms. Pfennighausen that
rectified once arrangements are made to remove or
adding that the property owner will be assessed
Mayor Matteson, read from a letter, written by Sheriff's Detective
Nash, complimenting the support and friendship Mr. Nash found in
the City and informing the Council, the City Staff, and the
citizenry of his promotion to Sergeant and subsequent assignment to
the West Valley Detention Center, effective July 13, 1991. He
requested that a letter of appreciation be sent to Sergeant Nash.
In reference to a meeting that occurred between City
representatives and members of The Sun newspaper, commented that
although many in attendance expressed satisfaction with the
publication, the City has received inadequate local news coverage
from that newspaper. However, he indicated his pleasure that a
positive press release detailing the City's financial stability was
published recently on the front page of The Sun.
Councilmember Christianson, inquired of the City Manager whether
Me City has a report from B.F.I. on the progress of the recycling
program.
City Manager Schwab, responded that the City has not received a
statistical report from B.F.I. on the amount of tonnage that is
being collected for recycling but added that the report will be
available upon completion of the month of July 1991. He stated
further that a visual inspection of the City indicates a high level
of participation from the citizens.
Councilmember Carlstrom, reported on the League of California
Cities Conference, which he recently attended in Monterey with the
City Manager and Mayor Pro Tem Grant, announcing that the City of
Grand Terrace is one of the few cities in the state with an
operating budgetary surplus. He stated that the issues of import
at the Conference were the number of cases of child abuse in
California and the number of children living in poverty state-wide,
adding that only 11% of children in the state live in a normal
family environment. He expressed his belief that many senior
citizens are unaware of childrens' issues in the state, asserting
that seniors' votes against the school system are harmful to
children. He added that 72,000 newborns have been exposed to Crack
Cocaine and stated that 60-70% of children in the state are behind
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in normal motor skill development due to a lack of adequate play
areas and indicated that the state park system needs improvement.
He expressed satisfaction with the speech given by the
representative from the Sacramento office of the State Department
of Education and Child Development, Maureen DeMarco.
Councilmember Hilkey, stated his intention to bring slides and
information about the construction and subsequent failure of the
nuclear plant at Chernobyl to a future Council Meeting. He read an
excerpt from a work written by one of the scientists who was a part
of the team studying the Chernobyl incident which indicates that
the situation was worsened by the anxious reactions of the area
residents, and he extrapolated that the City of Grand Terrace needs
to be aware of not only the affects of radiation contamination but
the fear radiation generates. He expressed his belief that the
recycling program appears to be successful but added that there are
several thieves targeting the recycling bins, and he suggested that
the City pass legislation to prevent this type of theft. He
indicated his desire that Staff initiate communication with B.F.I.
to develop a recycling program for yard wastes, which he contends
constitutes 20-35% of solid waste. Expressing dissatisfaction with
the amount of graffiti in the City, he requested that Staff enhance
the graffiti program to ensure a 24-hour response time and to
provide for a wider selection of paint colors to cover the
graffiti. Specifically referring to the old GTI Market, he
suggested that the fence be painted in a redwood tone since it is
in a public area.
City Manager Schwab, indicated that recycling yard waste is the
next component of the recycling program, which will enable the City
to meet its goal of a 50% reduction in the wastestream. He
indicated that San Bernardino County has not yet implemented a
curbside yard waste collection program but remarked that the City
is working with B.F.I. to examine the recycling options. He
indicated that the City will paint over graffiti and will provide
the labor if a property owner provides the correct paint color but
added that attempting to match property owners' color schemes is
uneconomical. He stated further that, although the City can
shorten the graffiti response time and will attempt to reduce the
current time of 48 hours by utilizing work release crews on
weekends, graffiti has actually increased in the City since the
implementation of the program, and he speculated that those
involved in spreading graffiti have entered into a game with the
City. He stated further that eventually the City may need to hire
a part-time Staff member in order to remove graffiti within 24
hours but assured Council that the City is committed to eradicating
graffiti on public and private property. He indicated that the
City has used many graffiti removal products but commented that
those products have a limited effectiveness.
Mayor Pro Tem Grant, inquried as to the ownership of the wall at
the old GTI MarkFt' and questioned the punishment for creating
graffiti. He concurred with the City Manager's assessment of the
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amount and cause of the graffiti increase in the City, expressing
frustration with the problem and suggesting that the City consider
reimbursing an owner for the cost of painting their own property as
long as the cost is not prohibitive. He also concurred with
Councilmember Carlstrom regarding the value of the League of
California Cities Conference and stated that he personally
benefited from several of the workshops. He complimented the
positive article that appeared in The Sun and lauded the City
Manager's performance.
City Manager Schwab, commented that the owner of the old GTI Market
indicated that the ownership of the wall is currently in litigation
and added that the owner refused to sign a release form so that the
graffiti could be removed at that location.
City Attorney Harper, revealed that the courts might impose a
clean-up sentence on those who perpetrate the defacing of property
in Grand Terrace and supported the City Manager's reluctance to
provide custom graffiti removal, indicating that other cities cite
homeowners for graffiti abatement. He commented further that the
City can enter private property without the owner's permission
under the Nuisance Abatement Ordinance.
Ma or Pro Tem Grant, emphatically expressed his wish that the City
enforce the Nuisance Abatement Ordinance.
City Manager Schwab, asserted that the Nuisance Abatement procedure
requires notification and a hearing and is a time consuming
process.
Assistant Citx Manager Anstine, reported that the City, in
conjunction with the Sheriff's Department, has been able to
identify a number of individuals who have been responsible for
graffiti in the area and has compelled those individuals to rectify
their vandalism in the City through a clean-up program. He
clarified that the culprits were residents of Grand Terrace and
were not minorities.
Mayor Pro Tem Grant, expressed satisfaction that some of the
individuals responsible for graffiti in the City have been
apprehended.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
7A. Award Mini Study on School District Feasibility
City Manager Schwab, "At the meeting of June 13, 1991,
Councilmember Hilkey presented a proposal by Stallings and
Associates to conduct a mini study for the feasibility of a Grand
Terrace Unified School District. At that same meeting, Council
directed staff to solicit additional proposals. Staff had
initially sent out proposals to Stallings and Associates, Far West
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Laboratories, Hawkins Mark -Tell, and the University of California
at Riverside. Subsequent to that time, we had three more requests
for proposals, one of which was to School Services of California.
We received back two proposals. One was the initial proposal by
Stallings and an additional proposal by School Services of
California.
In looking at the two proposals, Stallings and Associates had a
composite bid that was for the entire study with no additional
costs. School Services of California had indicated that their base
fee would be $2,850 plus additional costs. In looking at the
proposal, it seemed in order to make a fair comparison between the
two proposals, I would need to contact School Services to find out
what they really felt would be additional costs, and I think, in
talking with them and what they would need to do in order to come
down and properly perform a study, I would estimate that a proposal
for School Services would probably be closer to $6,000 total cost.
So, Staff is recommending that should the Council wish to conduct a
mini feasibility study, that I would recommend that you award the
contract to School Services of California at a total cost of $6,000
from the unappropriated General Fund Balance."
Mayor Matteson, "We have some people who want to speak on this
issue plus I would like to read a letter received from citizen Kim
Hathaway:
To the Grand Terrace City Council:
As a thirty year resident of Grand Terrace and a graduate of Colton
High School , I thought that it was time I speak out and state my
opinion on what is happening in our city and school district.
I am appalled and embarrassed that our city is being represented by
a councilman that seems to have such a supremacist racist
attitude. He is suppose to be mindful of what's good and fair for
our city and be the voice of the people. What Mr. Herman Hilkey
wants in the way of our own school district is not in the city's
best interest, and he certainly does not speak for me and my
family, nor the majority of people I know in Grand Terrace.
In 1965, my husband and I graduated from Colton High and in 1986 so
did our daughter. Next year our son will also complete his four
years there. .The four of us managed to go through there without
incident, and none of us are the mindless morons that Hilkey paints
Colton students to be. My husband is successful and provides a
good life for us. My daughter and I both have college degrees and
my son has made the principals honor roll every semester since he
started at Colton High. His future is still ahead.
We do not need our own high school or school district, maybe what
we need is new leadership.
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The rest of the Council seems to be so passive, and willing to just
give away City funds for a study that has already been done several
times. Come on Mr. Grant, Mr. Carlstrom, and Mayor Matteson, I've
seen you work for a long time and I used to believe you had the
best interest of the Grand Terrace Citizens in mind, but now I'm
not so sure. Stand on your own two feet and stop this ridiculous
idea of our own school district or high school. You all know that
this City cannot support, nor does it need it's own district. If
this passes, you won't just have the handful of families moving
because they don't want their children at Colton, you will have
countless people moving to avoid paying the tax increases that we
will have to pay, and I will be one of them. I never thought I
would ever consider moving from Grand Terrace but I am tired of all
the hatred and nonsense that has been going on here, not to mention
that we are already taxed to the max.
I am extremely involved in our community and in projects that are
throughout our state. I have always been actively involved with my
children in this school system. From kindergarten through the end,
I have been an aid in their classrooms so that I could know first
hand what was going on. I have not always been happy with some of
the things that I've seen so I have worked with the schools for
change, not change my child from the school.
Maybe if Mr. Hilkey and his friends would turn their hostilities to
positive energy and work to help the Colton School District, we
could all make it an even better system.
We got along fine for years without Mr. Hilkey and separate
schools, and we still can.
I am not superior, not racist, not a liberal, not an ultra
conservative, I am a positive person with positive ideas and I am
deeply concerned about the affect that all of this ugly negative
talk is having on our young people.
We need to learn and live together, not apart. You get out of
school and life just what you put into it.
We are not superior to Colton and their children. I believe that
our city council needs to start looking beyond the broken garden
gate and see the beautiful flowers that are blooming on the other
side.
A deeply concerned citizen,
Kim Hathaway
Wendy Patrick, 22725 Robin Way, Grand Terrace; "Before I speak, I
do have two letters that were delivered to me by families that are
of this community that share the views that I am giving and that
Ms. Hathaway gave. I'll pass those on when I am finished. I have
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been a resident of this community for the greater portion of the
past 29 years. I am here this evening to address this Council as
it relates to the expenditure of monies to conduct a feasibility
study pertaining to the formation of a school district in Grand
Terrace not to debate the issue of separate school districts. As a
citizen and taxpayer of this community, I strongly object to the
expenditure of any monies by our City government for the purpose of
evaluating or studying the feasibility of a separate school
district for this community. City governments have no jurisdiction
over schools. In my opinion, it is not an appropriate expenditure
of taxpayers' money. What would this Council's reactions and the
reactions of the taxpayers of the Colton Joint Unified School
District be if the School Board opted to appropriate monies to
conduct a feasibility study as to whether or not Grand Terrace
should have its own police department? We all know that the School
Board would have no jurisdiction over a police department in Grand
Terrace. The expenditure of monies that is before this Council is
no different. If, in fact, there is a large group of residents of
this community who believe strongly that this community should look
at the possibility of the unification and if the group is as large
as Mr. Hilkey would lead you to believe, then they should be
willing to fund whatever cost would be required to conduct the
appropriate survey. If there were 100 families interested in
seriously addressing this issue, they should be willing to put
their money where their mouths are and for a minimal investment of
$65.00 per family, they can get the survey that they desire. Mr.
Hilkey has expressed the concern that the information that would be
received from the Colton Joint Unified School District and the San
Bernardino County Schools Office would be biased and not accurate.
From what source will the information generated for a feasibility
study be drawn? Is Mr. Hilkey not biased in his way of thinking?
I have resided in this community far longer than Mr. Hilkey and the
majority of his followers. I can tell you that I am tired of
sitting back and allowing this Council and a small voice to
continue to down grade the schools of this district. I have been
actively involved in our school system since my son entered
kindergarten. He will be entering seventh grade in September. I
have served as PTA President at Terrace View; have served the PTA
at Terrace View in numerous other capacities; I will be President
of Terrace Hills PTSA this coming year; and I sit on several
committees of the Colton Joint Unified School District. I am not
an uninformed member of this community. No school district is
perfect or without problems but personal experience has convinced
me that this district continues to strive for excellence and
constantly reevaluates the approaches they are taking to seek out
better solutions to its problems. What we need are more members of
f the community who are truly committed to being part of the
solutions rather than part of the problems. Please consider
carefully the decision before you. I encourage you to vote against
the expenditure of any monies by this City for any feasibility
study relating to schools. I encourage you to appropriate those
monies to more worthwhile activities which might
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include youth sports, teen programs, drug and alcohol awareness
programs, and better yet, to provide some scholarships to benefit
graduating teens of this community. We have many students in our
community who could benefit tremendously from a scholarship
program. I can assure you, if this expenditure is approved by this
Council, I will seek to pursue other avenues to determine the legal
appropriateness of this expenditure. Mr. Hilkey says he represents
the views of this committee. I ask you who will represent myself
and those who share my views. I am not here alone this evening."
Wendy Curran, 22755 Kentfield, Grand Terrace; "Good evening Mayor
and Councilmembers. Tonight I speak to you in order to clarify
some facts - to set the record straight, if you will. Over the
last several weeks, information has been presented to you that
paints a lopsided view of the high school our students attend. In
addition, an image has been created depicting the funding at the
elementary schools as dismal. It is incorrect to draw the
conclusion that the Board of Education or the District
Administration purposely under funds any school as has been
implied. That simply does not happen. First you need to
understand that each school determines their spending decisions at
the site and that the allocation is based on enrollment figures.
Last year, our district received $3,057.59 per student, and we are
expecting the same amount this year as there appears there will be
no cost of living adjustment or COLA. Approximately 85% of our
resources go to salaries and benefits, which leaves about 15% to
fund the rest. Lottery monies are also alloted to each school
based on enrollment and we are expecting about 1/3 less lottery
revenue this year. Additionally, each site receives supplemental
grant monies for text books and may qualify for other grant
monies. Some sites qualify for additional monies through
categorical programs such as Chapter 1, which is federally funded;
State Compensory Education, which is funded by the State;
Bi-lingual Education Aid; and School Improvement Program monies.
Recently, both elementary schools in Grand Terrace have qualifed
and are receiving SIP monies or School Improvement Program monies.
Each school site makes the decisions on how the money is spent at
that site. As to the high school, much has been misrepresented.
Again, you need to understand how the CAP figures are interpreted.
The figures you have been given previously were for the 1989-90
school year, and since the State of California did not fund the CAP
test last year, no school in California took the CAP test for the
1990-91 school year. The CAP test is in a state of flux and many
revisions have taken place. As I understand it, when the test is
again implemented, students in grade 4, 5, 8, and 11 will be
tested. It is unclear when this will occur. You also need to
understand how CAP scores are reported. The State gives us two
ways to interpret scores: state ranking, which compares the high
school to all high schools in the State; and relative ranking,
which reports how we fare with schools that are similar to us. You
have been given the state ranking and not the relative rank for
1989-90. Colton High School's relative rank was in the upper 1/3.
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In a recent School Performance Report Study Summary for 1989-90
released from the State Department of Education, Colton High School
met twelve of the fifteen target areas that the State Department of
Education had established. Yes, there are still areas to improve
in. The keyword is improve, and yes, we are doing that. Last year
the SAT scores placed us second in math and third in verbal skills
in the County of San Bernardino, this while we almost doubled the
number of students who took the test. I have long believed that if
you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.
Looking for solutions is what keeps me awake at night. We as
adults need to help our kids develop self-esteem. We need to
encourage them, set parameters, and serve as examples. Many
parents are re -dedicating themselves to our young people and by
doing so set many positive forces into motion. Once students have
the backing of their community, I believe that there isn't anything
that they cannot achieve. I believe in our students. I expect
them to achieve and will continue to find ways to bring the best to
their education. The path is long and winding. I would encourage
this Council to be supportive of our students in both word and
deed. Who knows what our young people can achieve when we join
forces to be supportive."
Mayor Matteson, "For those of you here who don't know, Mrs.Curran
0 is also on the Colton School Board."
John R. Taylor, 22843 Vista Grande Way, Grand Terrace; "I have
concerns for the concerned parents, having attended the meeting
with the former official of Colton, Mr. Dickinson. Mr. Dickinson
has left. Evidently, someone will take his place. I would very
much like to see them make an attempt to contact the new people in
Colton before any expenditures are made. I know, Mayor Matteson,
you have been quite conservative and I can't think of a time I've
disagreed with you until this time has come up, and I would hope
that the Council would give further consideration before they would
make such an expenditure."
Rod Lambert, 22914 Palm, Grand Terrace; indicated that he has been
a resident 17 years in Grand Terrace and prior to that 20 years in
Colton and also an alumni of Colton High School. Mr. Hilkey and
his group, I can appreciate the want of having our own school
district whatever. I remember when we first became a City one of
the goals that we were involved with was trying to get our own Post
Office. We found out that financially it was not feasible to do.
We wanted our own phone prefix. We even fought to get 783- into
the 825 but again we ran into a financial thing that we could not
obtain. Here again, today, we have a situation that is not
financially feasible and it doesn't make sense. I spent 30 minutes
on the phone today talking with the State Board of Education and
they won't side one way or the other about the feasibility of doing
things, and I'd be glad to give you the people I talked to and
their numbers after. Right now, according to the gentleman I
talked to up there, they have about a billion dollar backlog of
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funds needed just for improvements in schools that are already in
existence. Any new projects would be at least ten years down the
road. The only way that something would be put on the front burner
is if you are out in the middle of the desert and put together a
community and needed a school at that point in time. The other
thing is, and I don't know if this has been checked into but was
brought to my attention there when I talked to them, if Colton is a
charter City, it would be virtually impossible to break that
unified school district. I called City of Colton and the people I
got hold of, the City Manager wasn't there, didn't know if they
were general law, if they are charter or what, but it was my
understanding from the State of California and this was the
Administrator of School Districts that if that was a charter City,
you would be wasting your money. I have a few questions if we were
to go forward with that. First of all, where is the land for the
high school. Where would the funds, because the State, as it was
mentioned, is $14 billion dollars in a deficit, so the funds for
building the school would be questionable. If we had our own
school district, we would need a school board, a superintendent of
schools, secretaries, busses, maintenance people. Besides
teachers, you need substitute teachers probably, although I don't
know what the ratio of substitute teachers to teachers is, but if a
teacher gets sick, you've got to have somebody to cover them.
That's increased cost. You take a town of this size, we'd have a
school district of approximately 3,000, maybe 700 at a high school
and that would take the kids who enjoy sports put them in a league
that would be transporting them to mountain communities out in the
middle of the desert to participate in sports because we'd be such
a small school we wouldn't be in the larger CIF school district. I
don't like to come with negative things unless I have suggestions
because, as said, unless you have a solution you're part of the
problem. I think working through the present system that has been
stated is the way to do it. That brings change and we can do that
strictly by voting for those that are with our feelings. The other
thing is exploring the possibility of maybe bringing Loma Linda
into the Colton Unified School District. Loma Linda, at this time,
is taxing Redlands. Redlands was unable to pass a bill to build a
high school. They have a high school that is overcrowded. Their
schools are overloaded. If we could bring Loma Linda along with
Reche Canyon, there would be a need for a new high school to be
built probably in the Reche Canyon, Grand Terrace, Loma Linda
area. Colton has another high school over in Bloomington so we
know they can handle more than one. If this were to come to be, it
would also bring probably an extra Board member onto the School
Board and would shift the weight probably a little more this
direction so that if there's things that we're unhappy with, we
would have a larger voice on that Board of the School District.
Again, it was mentioned about the school deficit of $14 billion
dollars and we're throwing $6,500 dollars away on something that
has already been checked, phone calls that have been made, and I
would ask the Council also to vote against appropriating that
money. Thank you."
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Kathy Bowler, 22317 Van Buren, Grand Terrace; "I come to you
tonight as a parent of two Colton High students and a freshman that
will be coming in this next school year, so I will have three
students there. My husband and I both graduated from Colton High
and I was embarrassed as a citizen of Grand Terrace when I watched
the meeting of June 13th and I read the article that was in the
paper. Our time at Colton High has not always been perfect. We've
had problems there and they've always been handled quickly and
efficiently and we've been happy with the way things turned out. I
dealt personally with Mr. Dissinger and always been happy with the
way things turned out. I pray every night that my children will be
good examples to their brothers and sisters, to the people in their
community, and to the people that they deal with all the time, and
I don't want to make them more narrow minded and only be examples
to the people just right around them but to the people of this
whole area and the school district. Thank you."
Ron Wright, 22914 De Berry, i
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a high school. We may not even need a
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additional expenditures, but we need professionals to do the study
that are not biased, that are not tied to the City or tied to the
school district or to the community. We need a professional,
objective study. I think it would answer a lot of these questions
once and for all. The other thing that I find at this forum is
that opposing viewpoints can be openly addressed. There's been a
lot of discussion about getting involved in the system, work with
the system, try to evolve change through working with the system.
Believe me, there have been a number of parents in this community
that have tried that. We have attended a number of the School
Board meetings. We tried to present our views at the School Board
meetings. We've tried to address the School Board relative to
certain financial issues and certain political issues involving the
body politic of Colton - the influence and impact of planning
issues in the City beyond just the educational issues, but always
it's we're outsiders. We don't belong here. Why are you here?
Also what I find most disgusting, when you talk at their forum,
they're sitting there with a stopwatch and at five minutes you're
up, but I don't see this here. This is an entirely different light
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between here and down there, and I think what we're trying to
achieve is local control - a voice in the action - some stake in
the pie. My views may be unpopular, the other views may be
unpopular to the other sides, but I think this is an alternative
for once and for all to decide whether or not we can have a control
in our school system and I think the money is well spent. Thank
you."
Councilmember Hilke , "I'd like to respond without getting into a
debate. I have never said the information from the San Bernardino
County Superintendent of Schools would be biased. I have said that
the study that was done in 1988 by the School District and
information given by the School District was biased. I wanted to
clarify that. I have never said anything derogatory until today.
Things changed today. I've never said anything derogatory about
any students or any Staff in the Colton School District. I have
simply reported statistics that were given, not by myself, but by
the School District, by the County, and by the State. I gave you
charts and presentations that were presented by other people. I
have never said that the elementary schools are dismal. I do not
understand why the two Grand Terrace schools get less money than
any other schools in the School District. One might prefer state
ranking versus relative ranking. In state ranking, the elementarys
do better. If you look at relative ranking in the Colton School
District for elementarys, they do worse. So, if you take the one,
you're going to look better at the high schools, if you take the
other, you'll look better at the elementarys. It depends on which
one you take and then you have multiple scores and you have to take
each one individually. CAP scores are out this year because they
didn't fund them and there are some new tests coming in. I'm
concerned about what Ron said about new schools. I keep on hearing
this new high school and I don't know where that's coming from. We
have enough classrooms in this City to support the students we
have. We import more students than we export. True, I'm not
concerned with football as much as I am academics. Really, I'm
not. Colton is not a charter City. It also relates to City school
districts, like San Bernardino City Unified. It doesn't relate to
Colton Joint Unified. We contacted Loma Linda. I talked to a
couple of people over there. Tom Tillinghast indicated that Loma
Linda is very much into private schools because they get involved
with religion and those who don't like the private schools go to
Redlands and the people I've talked to over there, there's no
interest at all in splitting off from Redlands School District.
This isn't a comfortable thing for me to do, but I have so many
parents coming to me complaining about the results, and I see
statistics showing the results that are so poor. I'm more
concerned with finding examples, finding ways to improve the
results. I'm not concerned with personalities or personnel, and I
don't see any alternative. I have many inputs that say we want our
own school, just look into it and that's my intentions. It's
simply responding to a barrage of people asking to just look at our
own school district."
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Mayor Matteson, "Mr. Grant, would you read the letter we have
received from the Superintendent?"
Mayor Pro Tem Grant, "I think this is important that we share this
letter from Mr. Herbert Fischer, the newly appointed Superintendent
of the Colton Unified School District, with the Council and with
the people in the audience. That's particularly pertinent in view
of what appears to be, at least the possibility of less than
maximum participation, on the part of the public at School Board
sessions either because of or in spite of the previous
Superintendent. So, I found this correspondence from Mr. Fischer
to be quite refreshing and very positive. It reads as follows.
It's addressed to the Council:
As the newly appointed Superintendent of the Colton Unified School
District, I am looking forward to meeting members of the Grand
Terrace community, including the elected leadership. Within the
first weeks of my arrival in the District, I have had the
opportunity to meet with Councilmember Herman Hilkey, City Manager
Tom Schwab, and Assistant Randy Anstine, and I look forward to
visiting with the other Councilmembers as schedules permit.
My background as an educator and resident of the San Bernardino
area has provided me insight on the needs of local communities, and
I, therefore, am very aware of the challenges that confront the
Inland Empire, and I know that interagency cooperation is essential
to address these issues.
And then he concludes by saying, 'As previously indicated, I will
be available to discuss common areas of concerns, and I look
forward to this opportunity.' That's the letter and, Mr. Mayor,
I'll have some comments to make as you recognize the different
Councilmembers."
Councilmember Carlstrom "I'd like to respond to a couple different
letters that stated that we were passive in our views towards this
thing and maybe the audio portion of the television and the meeting
of 6/27 wasn't working, but, at that time, and it's recorded in the
minutes, I stated that my belief is that the school district issue
is creating a breach between the Colton Joint Unified School
District and the City of Grand Terrace and I think that this
dissension is harmful to the students. Now, I don't think that's a
passive statement, and I support the Colton Joint Unified School
District. I find no fault in it. If there is a majority of the
citizens of Grand Terrace that want a study to check the
r feasibility of providing us with a new high school, then it's my
civic duty to go along with that, but I'm not doing that from the
standpoint that I find fault with the Colton Joint Unified School
r- District. We have some very capable leaders up there. We have a
very positive School Board, and I want to cooperate with the school
system in every way that I can. If that's being passive, then I
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guess I'm passive or if I'm guilty, I'm guilty by association, but
that's not my feeling. I do think that this has created a problem
over the last two years, and I'd like to see the thing go away once
and for all. If it costs $6,000, I thought maybe that's the easy
way out, but I'm not so sure that we should spend that money
because I went, I say, to this conference where we have a $14
billion dollar State deficit. They're telling us that if they shut
down every public institution in the State of California this next
year, that we would still have a $6 billiondeficit. Now, those are
startling figures, and we're throwing $6,000, apparently, to the
wind. And it was my understanding that the County Board of
Education has a committee that will provide this information for us
for free if we want it; however, when I called the County
Superintendent of Schools to have a representation here at the last
City Council meeting, they didn't have anybody they could send.
So, I wanted somebody that we could bounce some questions off of to
get some positive information. Here again, we didn't have that
assistance last time. So, apparently we're hearing from the silent
majority tonight and that's wondering why that's been so long in
coming."
Councilmember Christianson, "I originally was in support of the
study because I thought once and for all we could answer the
questions and each side could argue from an unbiased study and
saying it's going to cost the citizens of Grand Terrace X amount of
dollars for a new school district, but the public dissension on
both sides that I've seen since our last meeting when we discussed
it, I think, has changed my mind as a Councilman supporting this
because I think it's tearing the community apart. I'm not sure
that funding the study through the City is the way to go. I
believe Ms. Patrick had an appropriate comment when she said there
should be enough families out there who are in support of the study
to fund it at this minimal cost. So, at this point, I'm not in
favor of the study as far as the City funding it."
Councilmember Hilkey, "The last City Council meeting the audience
was full of those for the study and you heard a lot of testimony of
people who have problems, especially with the high school, who had
some faith in the elementary schools, some faith in the junior
High, had a problem at the high school level. At that time,
everybody was for the study. We needed to move on with it.
Tonight, we've got some people that show up and it's not going to
be an easy course. We ask what's incomplete about our school
district, incomplete about our City, and we hear a couple of
things. Number one we hear about is the retail area. The second
thing we hear about is the high school. If we don't address it as
a City and we don't hear the complaints from the citizens, then we
do separate our town. Citizens who live in this tovin are leaving
it because by the time the kids get to high school, they don't have
faith in the system, and they want to leave. The problems of now
and the ones who had the problem leave and we don't hear from
them. They're the silent majority. They leave. They move out of
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town. They walk with their feet and the survey we conducted a
couple of years ago, even though it was not a scientific survey,
the majority of people wanted you to look into forming its own
school district. If we hold our position and get the study done,
we'll know not only if the school district is possible, they'll
also point out other things that maybe there's other alternatives
available to answer the problem of a pre -collegiate or more
academic oriented high school, but I think we need to remember what
the audience looked like last meeting. I think some of you are
forgetting what the audience looked like last meeting."
Mayor Matteson, "I haven't forgotten all the people that were
there. They must have lined up and took straws - you go one week
and you go the next, but, anyway, I was appalled at the treatment
that many of the parents were receiving when they were going to the
School Board meetings. Lately, I've seen the tide changing. The
letter Mr. Grant just read from the new Superintendent extending
his hands out to talk to us, School Board member Wendy Curran
attending the last couple of meetings, showing her interest and her
concern, leads me to believe that maybe there is some room for
negotiations. As Mr. Taylor pointed out, with these changes, maybe
we should go back to the drawing table and see if there are some
possibilities of working something out, and if there isn't, then we
can always come back to this scenario. My feeling is that we
should table this and see if there's possibilities of working
something out with the School District and all the parents. Now,
apparently we've been hearing from a vocal group, concerned
parents, not just a few, quite a few, and tonight we're hearing
from the other side. If you've been reading the newspaper,
there'll be a letter in one day expressing one view, next day
there's a letter expressing the other view. So, somewhere in the
middle, there's got to be a solution. So, I would support tabling
this and seeing if we can't work something out, and then if we
can't or if the parents can't and they're not satisfied, then we
can always come back to this situation."
Mayor Pro Tem Grant, "I've indicated in the past that I experienced
conflicting mood swings on this kind of a issue. This is one of
the areas in which you have to take a position and you cannot
straddle the fence. As background, again, for those of you who
haven't heard it, I felt that the 1988 study was an adequate
study. I don't believe it was biased. I had confidence in City
Staff who conducted the study. Once the recommendation was made
and the observations were provided, I was satisfied to put this to
rest. That's the first thing that I've said before. The second
thing that I've said before is that my daughter is a graduate of
Colton High School. It's been quite a few years now. Pat knows
her. She's no worse for wear as a result of that experience. I
have talked to her. She thought it rather strange. 'Why are you
talking to me about Colton High all of a sudden?' I said, well, I
need probably the best input I can get from anybody. I never
attended Colton High. My wife never did but my kid did, so I
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talked to her about it. There were bad days, there were good days,
but she went through the whole ball of wax. She went through every
school in Grand Terrace. She went through Colton High. She
graduated, and she's doing quite well, and I'm proud of her. So,
the experience of seeing how well she did and my observation of the
1988 study, while it was not a sophisticated, in the sense or
professional in the sense that it was not a paid consultant who
specialized in these things, I feel it was certainly an adequate
study, and it certainly satisfied me as a layman on the subject as
to the feasibility. I recognize, and if anyone has had the
opportunity to read this response to the request for proposals from
this particular vendor, he's basicly saying he's going to kind of
provide a broad brush stroke to the issue of the educational
process within this district. I get the impression that they're
not going to be specific recommendations relative to things that
have been pointed out by some of the folks not only tonight, but
previous occasions. I think one of the most crucial things,
though, that has affected my thinking, is the thing that I didn't
until I walked up to my little office here in the Council building,
and I read this letter from Mr. Fischer. Now, he does not refer
specifically to this problem, this controversy, but here's an
individual who's saying, 'Hey, I'm the Superintendent. I may not
be a member of the School Board, but I have a lot to say because I
am the Superintendent. The School Board must have faith in me.
They hired me. Therefore, I do have some influence. Therefore, I
want to look at things objective. I want to start fresh with all
the communities - Bloomington, Colton, Grand Terrace and all the
unincorporated areas.' I thought that this was a breath of fresh
air. This guy doesn't seem to have an ax to grind. He's new.
He's the new guy on the block. Someway, somehow Mr. Fischer should
be given an opportunity to show that there can be substantive
changes in the way our children in Grand Terrace are educated.
This is very important to me because I'd like to see the success of
my daughter carry on with the children that are now getting ready
to go to Colton High. So, you know Mr. Mayor, again I felt that
the study would put this issue to bed once and for all. I said
that two years ago. I thought that the informal study would put
the issue to bed once and for all. It did not. I'm gratified that
the vendor that you recommended is $500 cheaper. Table it. I think
that's a good idea. Let's get together with Herbert R. Fischer.
We've had a School Board member get up tonight and make some very
valid statements. Let's get together. Let's reason together. We
can do this again. This is not over with. If it turns to be
wrong, then we can bring it back. There's no statute of
limitations on this. If we're not happy, we can bring it back. I
think the Mayor's recommendation is good. I think we should give
the School District. They know we're upset. They know this
community's upset, but we want to be darn sure of what it is we're
upset about. So, let's sit down, figuratively speaking, with Mr.
Fischer and his Staff and whoever on the Council. First of all, I
think Ron Wright's statement about the limitations of the meetings
of the School Board does have some merit. I'm proud of the fact
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that this Council has never had that time restriction. Now, maybe
the press of business precludes them allowing more time although I
question that. I think they ought to have a better opportunity.
The citizens who pay the taxes ought to have more than having to
look at someone's watch to hurry up, but, all in all, I think that
we should give the School District a little bit more time to maybe
resolve the problems. And let's face it, we will save $6,000. So,
at this time, Mr. Mayor, I'm still ambivalent about the issue, but
I do not feel that we are serving the youngsters in this community
well by rushing head long into this thing at this point because,
again, we've had a study. I've had personal experience with
success of that high school. Again, maybe if I had another kid and
she had gone through, she'd have been a failure, I don't know, but
all I know is it worked out."
Mayor Matteson, "I just noticed that another School Board member,
Pat Nix, is also sitting up there in the audience. That shows me
some concern. So, the Chair's going to make a motion to table this
survey until we make another attempt at working the problems out
with the School District."
Councilmember Hilkey, "Do you have a time frame? I think we owe it
to those who put an effort in to put a time frame, put a monument
ahead of us. To look at it at a set time."
Mayor Matteson, "If your committee or your group of people would
draw up some type of grievance paper, I will personally take it and
discuss it with the Superintendent and see if we can't work out the
concerns of everybody involved. I think if we get two people that
are not emotionally involved, we might come up with some solutions
and bring it back to you. It is hard to put a number of days on
it. It depends on what your concerns are. Whether your concerns
takes 30 days or six months."
Councilmember Hilke , "Are you suggesting that we put together a
list o concerns and change requests?"
Mayor Matteson, "Whatever you feel. Whatever else's on your mind.
Write it down. Give it to me. I will make an appointment with the
Superintendent of Schools and sit down and discuss it with him and
that'll be a starting point. Let's do that. If we can work
something out, satisfy both sides, then we're better off for it."
Councilmember Hilkey, "I'm going to lose this, so I've got to go
along with it whether I like it or not. There's two concerns I
have, and they both relate to time. The first is the children who
are looking at what they feel is unacceptable atmosphere over the
next couple of years are going to lose six months by the action
you're taking tonight. Secondly, they will form a committee. And
on that committee will be people who, as in the past they always
pick committees and we found out later in the newspaper that they
had a parent committee, I'm concerned if they form a committee,
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who's on that committee. Typically school districts form
committees."
Mayor Matteson, "Well, I think that it only makes common sense that
when you form a committee that you have people that represent both
avenues of thought so that you come up with something that's
workable for both sides rather than one side because if you go
one-sided, you're going to end up right where we are right now.
So, it has to be something that's workable. So, let's do that, and
we'll take from there and discuss it as we go along. Ninety days.
We'll take that as a target date and see what we work out."
City Manager Schwab, "That would be the second meeting in October."
Councilmember Hilke , "We need you to put it well in front of the
e ection or well after the School Board election."
Mayor Matteson, "Well, it all depends on what your requirements
are. We cant give you a date until we see what you're looking
at. There are certain things that can't be turned around in a
couple of months, but you will have information before that because
I will meet with the Superintendent shortly after I get the concern
letter. By the October 24th meeting. I mean I'll report to you
after our meeting as we go along. I won't wait until October."
Councilmember Hilkey, "O.K. By October 24th."
CC-91-120 MOTION BY MAYOR MATTESON, SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM GRANT, CARRIED
4-1 (COUNCILMEMBER HILKEY VOTED NO), to table the awarding of a
contract to conduct a feasibility study regarding the possible
establishment of a Grand Terrace School District until the October
24, 1991 City Council Meeting.
NEW BUSINESS
8A. Annual Levy of Assessment - FY 1991-92, City of Grand Terrace
Landscaping and Lighting District 89-1
CC-91-121 MOTION BY MAYOR MATTESON, SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER CARLSTROM,
CARRIED 5-0, to adopt the Resolution ordering the preparation of
plans, specifications, cost estimate, diagram, assessment and
report for proceeding for the annual assessment levy after
formation of a District; to adopt the Resolution approving the
Engineer's Report regarding the City Council's intention to provide
for an annual levy and collection of assessments for maintenance in
an existing Landscaping and Lighting District; and to adopt the
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Resolution relating the intention of the City to set the Public
Hearing for Thursday, August 8, 1991, at 6:00 p.m.
8B. A Resolution Providing for Final Approval of Lease Agreements in
Connection with the Issuance by the Grand Terrace Public Financin
Authority of Not to Exceed 5 0 00 Principal Amount of 1991
Lease -Purchase RevRue Bonds, Series A, and Providing Oth9r Matters
Properly Relating Thereto
A Resolution_ Authorizing the Issuance of Not to Exceed $3,500,000
Principal Amount of 1991 Lease -Purchase Revenue Bonds. Series A.
Authorizing and Directing Execution of an Indenture of trust and
Lease Agreements, uthorizin the Sale of Bonds Approvin5 UT ic1a
Statement and Providing Other Matters Properly Relatinq Thereto
A Resolution Pledging as Additional Security Monies Credited to the
Motor Vehicle License Fee Account in the Transportation Tax Fund
Established Pursuant to Sectivo= 001 of the Revenue and Taxation
CC-91-122 MOTION BY MAYOR MATTESON, SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER CARLSTROM,
CARRIED 5-0, to adopt the Resolutions relating to Lease Agreements
between the City of Grand Terrace and the Public Financing
Authority and the issuance of lease -purchase bonds, Series A, with
the stipulation that the bond issue will return to Council should
the interest rate exceed 8% and with the deletion of improvements
to Pico Park.
ORDER OF ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Matteson adjourned the City Council meeting at 8:00 p.m., until
the next regular CRA/City Council meeting, which is scheduled to be
held on Thursday, July 25, 1991.
Deputy City Clerk of the(City of
Grand Terrace
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