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03/12/1987CITY OF GRAND TERRACE COUNCIL MINUTES REGULAR MEETING - MARCH 12, 1987 A regular meeting of the City Council of the City of Grand Terrace was called to order in the Council Chambers, Grand Terrace Civic Center, 22795 Barton Road, Grand Terrace, California, on March 12, 1987, at 5:40 p.m. PRESENT: Byron Matteson, Mayor Barbara Pfennighausen, Mayor Pro Tem Dennis L. Evans, Councilman Susan Crawford, Councilwoman Hugh J. Grant, Councilman Thomas J. Schwab, Acting City Manager Joe Kicak, Planning Director/City Engineer Ivan Hopkins, City Attorney Alicia Chavez, Deputy City Clerk ABSENT: Randy Anstine, Community Service Director Loretta Thompson, City Clerk The meeting was opened with invocation by Pastor Larry Wilson, Praise Fellowship Foursquare Church, followed by the Pledge of Allegiance, led by Councilman Grant. ITEMS DELETED Mayor Matteson asked if there were any items to be deleted from the Agenda. The Acting City Manager advised there were none. Councilman Grant indicated that at the last Council meeting Councilwoman Crawford had asked that the name of Mr. Tony Petta be presented for appointment to the Wildnerness Park Committee. When that request was made, the City Attorney indicated that new items could not be added to the agenda. Councilwoman Crawford asked that this item be placed on the next agenda. Councilman Grant indicated this item was not on the agenda and asked for an explanation. The Acting City Manager advised this item was left off the agenda due to an oversight in the City Clerk's Department. Councilman Grant stated that at the SANBAG meeting he had attended the previous day the Chairman mentioned an item can be added to the agenda by a 2/3's vote. He asked the City Attorney to comment on this. The City Attorney advised an item could be added to the agenda. However, it would be necessary to find that the item was of an emergency nature. Councilman Grant indicated he did not feel this matter was of an emergency nature and requested that the Acting City Manager ensure that the appointment of Mr. Petta to the Wildnerness Park Committee be on the March 26, 1987 Council agenda. SPECIAL Mayor Matteson stated it was his pleasure to present a PRESENTATION three-year Service Award to Thomas J. Schwab, Finance Director/Acting City Manager. The presentation was made. CONSENT CALENDAR Mayor Matteson asked if there were any items to be deleted from the Consent Calendar. Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen requested that the following items be deleted: Item A - Check Register No. 031287 Item D - February 26, 1987 minutes. Councilman Grant indicated that he wished to have Item A deleted from the agenda as well. CC-87-34 Motion by Councilman Grant, second by Councilman Evans, ALL AYES, that the balance of the Consent Calendar be approved as follows: B. Ratify March 12, 1987 CRA Action. C. Waive Full Reading of Resolutions & Ordinances on Agenda. E. Accept 1985-86 Annual Financial Audit. F. Accept & Authorize City Clerk to Record Grant Deed for Barton Road Dedication from Pete J. & Laura F. Parker, Assessor's Parcel No. 277-121-32. G. Authorize City Clerk's Attendance to the 1987 California City Clerk's Association Conference in Sacramento, April 8-10, 1987. CHECK REGISTER Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen indicated that she had a question on Voucher No. 16810 - Ralph's Plumbing. Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen questioned where the sewer pipe was located and why it was removed and replaced. The City Engineer indicated he believed the location was at the east end of Westwood Drive through the canyon. Apparently, there was a broken pipe in the easement that was replaced. The pipe was on City -owned property. Voucher No. 16817 - Suverkrup Lumber Company - dome bronze skylight - Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen questioned where the dome bronze skylight had been used. The Acting City Manager indicated that the restroom at the park has a skylight to allow natural lighting. This skylight had been vandalized and had to be replaced. Councilman Grant questioned Voucher No. P4748 - Business Development Association. Apparently there was or there is going to be a meeting of the Business Development Association. Council Minutes - 3/12/87 Page 2 CHECK REGISTER He asked for an explanation of this meeting. Mayor Matteson advised this was a meeting held at the Ontario Airport with regards to the fast train to Las Vegas. Councilman Grant asked if this was with regards to the Mag-Lev. Mayor Matteson indicated it was. Voucher No. P4949 - Organization/Western Towns - Councilman Grant questioned what the Small City's Roundup was; when was it and who attended it. The Acting City Manager advised that it is a meeting that will be held in the future at Davis, California. He advised that Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen and Councilman Evans were planning to attend. Voucher No. P4958 - Home Depot - Councilman Grant questioned whether these generators had been budgeted for in the Emergency Operations Committee budget. The Acting City Manager advised they had been. Voucher No. 16807 - Patton Sales Corporation - Office supplies - Computer desk/type table - Councilman Grant questioned who would receive the furniture and office supplies listed. The Acting City Manager advised that the office supplies and furniture were purchased for the Administrative Assistant. CC-87-35 Motion by Councilman Grant, second by Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen, ALL AYES, that the Check Register be approved. MINUTES Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen read the first sentence of the February 26, 1987 paragraph pertaining to Mr. Dick Rollins' comments on page 15. This sentence reads as follows "Mr. Rollins stated that at present all utilities are underground, and questioned whether this means that all properties within the boundaries of the City of Grand Terrace would have to be put underground and, if so, will this then become a tax to the citizens?" Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen indicated that this sentence was contradictory and did not appear to reflect Mr. Rollins' comments. She requested that Council direct staff to review the tape and make the appropriate corrections. CC-87-36 Motion by Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen, second by Councilman Grant, ALL AYES, that the minutes of the February 26, 1987 Council minutes be approved as amended. PUBLIC Mayor Matteson invited audience participation at this time. PARTICIPATION Dick Rollins, Mr. Rollins indicated he wish to speak to Council with regards 22700 DeBerry to traffic in the City of Grand Terrace. The speed of traffic on DeBerry Street early in the morning when children are going to school is excessive. He indicated that, between 7:30 a.m. Council Minutes - 3/12/87 Page 3 and 8:30 a.m., traffic on DeBerry Street is traveling in excess of 40 mph. He further indicated that in the afternoon, between 2:00 and 4:00 p.m., traffic is consistently traveling in excess of 40 mph on DeBerry Street. Mr. Rollins stated that he had taken the trouble to pace some of these cars and knows they are traveling in excess of 40 mph. He feels that Council must look at the growth of the City and suggested that Council attempt to get a full-time traffic deputy in Grand Terrace. Mayor Matteson asked Captain Bradford to have his deputy patrol DeBerry Street in an effort to control traffic speed. ORAL REPORTS Mayor Matteson invited Committee reports. Councilman Grant asked why individual committees were not listed on the agenda as they had been previously. The Acting City Manager advised that the committees were not listed individually on the agenda in order to consolidate the agenda. Rather than asking for a report from each committee, a section of the agenda is set aside to allow any committee to give their report. Councilman Grant indicated that one of the things that concerns him is that, in time, people will forget there is a place on the agenda for committee reports if the committees are not listed on the agenda. Councilman Grant stated he realizes that 75 percent of the time some of the committees did not report anything. In fact, they were not even in attendance at the Council meeting. However, he feels the individual committees should be listed on the agenda. If it is the feeling of the Acting City Manager that it is not necessary to have the committees listed, he will not argue. However, he did feel that when people see the agenda, they will not know that we have committees or what the individual committees are because they are not listed on the agenda. EMERGENCY Mayor Matteson asked if anyone was present on behalf of the OPERATIONS Emergency Operations Committee. Mayor Matteson indicated that COMMITTEE the Emergency Operations Committee had a request for additional funding in the amount of $1,500 for the purchase of a 8'x8'x2O' shipping container. Mayor Matteson indicated that, unless it is an emergency, he would rather the Committee include this amount in the budget for the coming year. Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen indicated there were a couple of things that should be considered. One of them is, in comparing the number of volunteer hours that members of this Committee put in with the amount of money requested, the additional funds requested did not seem like very much. The other thing is that, in their request, the Committee clearly explained why this request was necessary. One of the problems that is being experienced throughout the county in attempting to get the emergency operations preparedness plans in effect is that we always look at the next budget period. The Committee has Council Minutes - 3/12/87 Page 4 prepared a list of equipment that is necessary in case of an emergency based on a list submitted by the state and the county. It is impossible to store the equipment in the facilities they presently have and still keep that facility functional in case of an emergency. Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen suggested that it would be shortsighted of Council not to grant this request so the Emergency Operations Committee could be prepared to deal with an emergency should it occur prior to July. Mayor Matteson agreed that we should purchase the storage shipping container for the Emergency Operations Committee, but questioned whether it would be a hardship for the Committee to wait until the next budget period. Councilman Grant indicated he feels the use of the generator is for emergency purposes and agreed with Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen that Council does not know when an emergency might occur. He feels this is an emergency appropriation and allocation of funds. Accordingly, he would support the staff recommendation with funds to be allocated on this basis. Councilwoman Crawford indicated that, in their report, the Emergency Operations Committee stated the shipping container will not be subject to damage under severe seismic activity. She indicated that, if there is an emergency, the equipment provided to deal with it should be available to the citizens of Grand Terrace. She felt the Committee was to be complimented for their foresight in recommending the purchase of the container to safely store their equipment. CC-87-37 Motion by Councilman Grant, second by Councilman Evans, ALL AYES, that the request for additional funding in the amount of $1,500 for the purchase of an 8'x8'x2O' shipping container be approved. COUNCIL REPORT Councilman Grant indicated he had attended the SANBAG meeting held March 11, 1987 in Ontario. He mentioned one piece of legislation SANBAG, as a regional body, is supporting is Assembly Bill 514 for Assemblyman Clute. This legislation "bans tire burning at this time". Councilman Grant stated he was delighted with this bill. Of possible interest to Council was the projection to the year 2010 for all the communities in San Bernardino County. This is a projection for the level of population, housing and employment through the year 2010. They projected that Grand Terrace's population will increase to 18,322 people by 2010. This represents a 89.84 percent increase of population from 1984. If this happens, the traffic problems will be serious. This projection also indicates that housing starts will increase by 108.50 percent. With regards to employment, the Council Minutes - 3/12/87 Page 5 projection indicated that employment will increase by 271 percent in the City of Grand Terrace by the year 2010. This does not mean people living in the City of Grand Terrace and working elsewhere, but people actually working in the City of Grand Terrace. Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen indicated she had the privilege of representing herself and the City of Grand Terrace at the festivities today celebrating 75 years of Girl Scouting in the United States. She stated it has been her privilege to be a member of this organization for twenty-three years. She suggested that a resolution be prepared by the City of Grand Terrace and given to the San Gorgonio Girl Scout Council in honor of the 75th birthday of the Girl Scouts. At the last meeting, she was appointed by Council to carry the City°s proxies to the Water Board meeting. Following that meeting, she realized that there was a date conflict. She will be in Davis, California on the date of the meeting. She has received a number of telephone calls from the citizens in regard to this meeting. She has discussed the matter with the Acting City Manager in an effort to determine the best method of dealing with this problem to ensure that the citizens of Grand Terrace were represented at this meeting. She noted that the Acting City Manager was planning to attend the Water Board meeting. She has suggested to all those who have asked her to take their proxies that they sign the proxies to the City of Grand Terrace/Tom Schwab, Acting City Manager. Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen indicated that if citizens of Grand Terrace have already submitted their proxies with her name on it, they can change this to read City of Grand Terrace/Thomas Schwab by going down to the Water Company, making the correction on their proxy card and initialling it. Mayor Matteson asked the City Attorney if Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen could transfer her proxies to the Acting City Manager. The City Attorney indicated that, if they are in Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen°s name, probably not. However, this depends on how general the proxy is. If it is general enough, yes, they could be transferred. The City Attorney suggested that citizens mark out the alternative on the form and insert the City of Grand Terrace/Thomas Schwab. Mayor Matteson asked how we could deal with the proxies already submitted to the Riverside/Highland Water Company with Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen as proxy. The City Attorney suggested that the Water Company would probably allow the Acting City Manager to vote on behalf of the citizens of Grand Terrace. Mayor Matteson asked, if Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen wrote a letter to the Water Company giving Mr. Schwab authority over all her proxies, would that suffice. The City Attorney Council Minutes - 3/12/87 Page 6 11 Li indicated it probably would. The City Attorney suggested that an alternative would be to prepare a later proxy and the later one would prevail. He further suggested this later proxy should be signed by the citizens. Mayor Matteson asked Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen if she could get a list of those people and the Acting City Manager could then contact them and have a new proxy signed. Councilman Evans indicated that, for those who read the newspaper article last week, he wished to clarify that Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen was scheduled to represent the City of Grand Terrace at the Water Board hearing. She was not vying for a position as a member on the Board as reported in the newspaper article. Unfinished Mayor Matteson indicated that Item A under unfinished business Business was to award and authorize the Mayor to execute the contract for a General Plan Update with Willdan Associates in the amount not to exceed $31,443 and appropriate $31,443 from unappropriated General Fund balance. Mayor Matteson questioned the inclusion of a freeway access study in the General Plan Update. He indicated that, in his opinion, the DeBerry and Iowa access has been discussed in depth. He suggested that this be eliminated from the study and that we look at the possibility of a Newport ON or OFF ramp. Councilman Evans indicated that, in the report presented, a figure of $11,578.80 was shown for an update Master =r Environmental Assessment (including freeway access study) and questioned how much of this was budgeted for the freeway. Mr. Al Warot, Manager of Planning Services, Willdan Associates, advised they had budgeted about $4,000 for updating the previously prepared freeway access study. If this amount was eliminated, it will reduce their total fees to about $27,000. Councilman Evans asked Mr. Warot to explain what the freeway access study will do that had not already been done. Mr. Warot indicated they will probably retrace the steps already taken in a previous study and would update cost estimates. He further indicated the figures resulting from this freeway access study will, undoubtedly, be higher than the figures presented three years ago. Mr. Warot indicated that, after reviewing the previous study, it appears the cost for the necessary improvements would probably be in the range of ten million dollars. In looking at the City Capital Improvement Program, this would amount to five or six years of capital improvement funds being totally committed to one project. From that standpoint, Mr. Warot indicated it became questionable as to what will be gained by spending $4,000 to update the cost estimate for this type of project. Council Minutes - 3/12/87 Page 7 Councilman Evans indicated he did not see the value of retracing steps previously taken with regards to the freeway access. He did not see this as a reality as we know the cost will increase. CC-87-38 Motion by Councilman Evans, second by Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen, that Council award and authorize the Mayor to execute the contract for a General Plan Update with Willdan Associates in an amount not to exceed $31,443 and appropriate $31,443 from the unappropriated General Fund Balance, less the $4,000 for the the freeway access study. In discussing this, Mayor Matteson suggested that perhaps we didn't want to delete the entire cost for the freeway access study, but that we would like to review the Newport alternative. Councilman Evans indicatd that his motion stood, as he did not wish to include the review of the Newport access. Councilman Grant indicated that he was going to argue about the value of retracing our steps as we might come up with additional information. However, as the consultant is suggesting, it would be a waste of $4,000 to do this study, he did not feel he could pursue this argument. He did state he was in support of providing as much access to the City of Grand Terrace as possible. He feels that, with the projected increase in population in this area over the next twenty -years or so, the traffic problem is going to be horrendous and every possible alternative for providing access to the City of Grand Terrace should be explored. He mentioned the clover leaf CalTrans is putting in Victorville and indicated this is being done to assist Victorville with their economic development. He agreed with Mayor Matteson that Council should look at the Newport access. Councilman Evans questioned the City Engineer as to whether or not two thousand feet was required for an access from the freeway. The City Engineer indicated this is a general guideline although he cautioned this varies with the topographic conditions. He could not recall if Newport was seriously considered in the initial study. Councilman Evans indicated it appeared, in view of this general guidleline, to be unrealistic to consider an ON/OFF ramp at the Newport area. He further suggested it would be unwise to put money into this area. Mayor Matteson indicated that, as he is not an engineer, he did not know if there was a possibility of putting an ON/OFF ramp at Newport. With the traffic to be generated by the increased population due to the apartments being built in this area, he feels we must look at the area to see if there is that possibility. Council Minutes - 3/12/87 Page 8 Motion CC-87-38 was defeated with Councilman Grant, Councilwoman Crawford, and Mayor Matteson voting NOE. Motion by Councilman Grant, that Council award and authorize the Mayor to execute a contract for a General Plan Update with Willdan Associates in the amount not to exceed $31,443 and appropriate $31,443 from the unappropriated General Fund Balance. As there was no second, the vote was not called. The Acting City Manager questioned what it would cost to look at the Newport area. This study could be only of the Newport area and could be just for an ON/OFF ramp. Mr. Warot suggested that a possible study with regards to the access at Newport would not exceed $1,000 making the cost of the total study about $28,000. Mayor Matteson invited Mr. Tony Petta to comment in this regard. Mr. Petta indicated his concern is with the population growth anticipated for the City of Grand Terrace and the valley. It is logical to assume that traffic will increase because of the increased population. Some way has to be found to disperse the anticipated traffic. We cannot wait until the problem occurs. Plans have to be made now to deal with the traffic problem. Councilman Evans agreed that something has to be done about the traffic situation. He mentioned the cost of the access outlined by Mr. Warot, stating CalTrans will not pay for the access and the City does not have the money to pay for it. Ll When we reach the point where the City can afford to pay for the access, then we can look seriously at the access. Spending any additional money on the freeway access study is foolish. Newport as an access is foolish. Councilman Evans did feel that we need to explore and work with all diligence to redesign the existing OFF ramp at Barton Road. He indicated that in 1985, Council had asked the City Engineer to contact CalTrans to look into this possibility. A couple of meetings ago the City Engineer indicated he had contacted CalTrans again at Council's direction. Councilman Evans asked what the status of this was. The City Engineer advised he had received a letter from CalTrans who advised they will be doing a study of this area which will be completed within thirty days. Once the study has been completed, they will be corresponding with the City again. Primarily, CalTrans will be looking at the increase of traffic in this area and the impact of the improvements made at that intersection since the last study. Councilman Evans suggested that before any other access is considered, the Barton Road access will have to be reworked with money being spent at the Barton Road access before it is spent elsewhere. Council Minutes - 3/12/87 Page 9 Councilwoman Crawford asked Mr. Warot what it would cost to prepare data to give a realistic proposal for better freeway access within the community. Mr. Warot advised that, as he has not had an opportunity to look at all aspects of this matter, he is not in a position to provide a cost estimate at this time. He stated that his statement in regard to the freeway access study was based purely on the economic feasibility of the study. Mr. Warot mentioned a shopping center at Montebello. Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen indicated Council was aware of the information Mr. Warot provided. When the controversy with regard to the regional shopping center came up, the cost estimate for freeway access was between eight and sixteen millions dollars. The annual income was estimated at one million dollars per year. It would have taken eight to sixteen years before the City could recognize any profit from that commercial venture. This did not make sense then, and it still doesn't. Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen indicated that she could not imagine how the Newport OFF/ON ramp would be handled, but would not rule out the possibility of that access. She stated she would support the reworking of the present Barton Road access. Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen stated she would like to see the City enter into a contract for the General Plan Update not to include the freeway access study but, based on the City Engineers comments with regards to CalTrans study, perhaps the contract could be expanded at a later date to include the freeway access study. Mr. Warot advised that within 45 days their study would be at a point where such consideration could be entertained. CC -87-39 Motion by Mayor Matteson, second by Councilwoman Crawford, carried 3-2 with Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen and Councilman Evans voting NOE, to award and authorize the Mayor to execute a contract for a General Plan Update with Willdan Associates in an amount not to exceed $28,443 and appropriate $28,443 from the unappropriated General Fund Balance. Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen requested that, once the CalTrans study has been received, Council reconsider based on the results of that study. Mayor Matteson indicated that will be done. NEW BUSINESS A request for a renewal of the 1986 Permit to conduct Religious Renewal of a Solicitation in the City of Grand Terrace was presented. Mayor Permit - Pro Tem Pfennighausen indicated that this request was submitted Religious by the same group (United States Mission/Hudson House) as last Solicitation year. CC-87-40 Moved by Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen, second by Councilman Evans, that Council approve the application from the United States Mission/Hudson House for renewal of a permit to conduct Religious Solicitation in the City of Grand Terrace subject to the conditions applied in 1986. Council Minutes - 3/12/87 Page 10 IJ The City Attorney advised that Condition No. 4 could not be allowed as, it appears discriminatory. Councilwoman Crawford questioned whether this condition could read that "All Solicitors must travel in pairs." The City Attorney agreed that this wording would be acceptable. Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen requested that her motion be amended to read "Condition No. 4 All Solicitors must travel in pairs," Second concurred. Motion No. CC-87-40, as amended, carried ALL AYES. Transportation The request to consider preparation of transportation sales tax Sales Tax resolution endorsing enabling Legislation for public vote was introduced. Mayor Matteson requested the Acting City Manager's comments. The Acting City Manager advised this is a request made by SANBAG and transmitted through Councilman Grant who had asked that this matter be placed on the agenda for consideration. At this time the development of the improvements to be funded by this tax have not been finalized. He suggested Council should open this matter for discussion, decide whether there is enough information to determine its benefits to the City of Grand Terrace and make a recommendation. Councilwoman Crawford indicated she understands this is a recommendation to put this to a vote of the people. The Acting City Manager advised that they are asking Council to endorse or recommend that enabling Legislation be put into place to allow them to create this tax. At this point, we do not know what this tax will be used for. Councilman Evans indicated that his understanding is that this is a request to support the right to put this question before the people and let them vote on it. He indicated he had no problem with supporting this request. Whether or not he could support the measure when it came to vote was another matter. Councilman Evans agreed that there is not enough information to make a decision, but he does feel that people should have the right to decide whether or not they should tax themselves. Councilwoman Crawford agreed with this statement. Councilman Grant also agreed saying that the people of the County should be given the right to decide whether or not to tax themselves. However, he suggested that anytime Council goes on record as supporting the issue being presented to the public for a vote, it implies support of the issue itself. Councilman Grant indicated he was not sure if he would support the tax if none of the funds were to be spent to enhance the Grand Terrace area. However, he did agree with supporting or allowing people to vote on it. Council Minutes - 3/12/87 Page 11 Councilman Evans reiterated that he could not support anything that appeared to support a tax increase. He will support a measure that will go to the voters and let them decide. Mayor Matteson indicated that he concurred with Councilman Grant in that, if we did support putting this question to a vote, it may be assumed that Council supported the tax itself. He also agreed we do not have enough information on which to base a decision. Councilwoman Crawford agreed with Mayor Matteson. She continued by indicating she felt the people had the right to vote, but she would like to have more information on this matter before supporting the issue. Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen did not agree that supporting an issue being placed on a ballot could be assumed to be an endorsement of the measure itself. She suggested that, when more information becomes available, it will be Council's responsibility to provide the information to the citizens so they can vote intelligently on the issue itself. CC-87-41 Motion by Councilman Grant, second by Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen, carried 3-2 with Councilwoman Crawford and Mayor Matteson voting NOE, that Council support a resolution urging approval of State Legislation authorizing a public vote for a County Transportation Sales Tax. ORDINANCE Mayor Matteson advised the next item was a proposed ordinance AMENDING THE MUNICIPAL CODE OF THE CITY OF GRAND TERRACE, TITLE 18, PERTAINING TO THE MINIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS AND RESCINDING ORDINANCE NO. 104. At Councilman Grant's request, the City Attorney reviewed the proposed ordinance. The gist of the ordinance was to establish a minimum square footage for multi -family units and residential units in the City of Grand Terrace. On reviewing the square footage being proposed for studio apartments, 1, 2 and 3-bedroom apartments, Mayor Matteson asked the City Attorney where he had obtained the square footage for each unit. The City Attorney advised that he had received this information from Councilman Evans. When asked, Councilman Evans indicated that he had computed the square footages based on what he would consider to be a reasonable size apartment complex. Councilman Evans indicated that, if Council wishes to decrease traffic and decrease population, you do not increase the square footage and livable space. He suggested that these figures are realistic and would provide a good quality development. Councilman Evans indicated one thing in the original ordinance was not included in the proposed ordinance. That is, the City will not encourage 3-bedroom apartments. He suggested this be excluded in the ordinance. Council Minutes - 3/12/87 Page 12 11 Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen indicated that, when they were originally discussing Ordinance 104, she could not see the need for studio apartments being 800 square feet. She still sees no need for studio apartments to be this size. She further indicated that she did not know of any studio apartments being sold as condominiums. She suggested that the condominium aspect of this particular unit be deleted. She could see the feasibility of a 3-bedroom condominium. However, she could not see the feasibility of a 3-bedroom apartment because it does encourage larger families, and this is the kind of thing that Council is trying to prevent in order to control school population. Based on this, large apartments with a lot of bedrooms should be discouraged within Grand Terrace. She suggested that 2-bedroom apartments with 1 bathroom or 2-bedroom apartments with 2 bathrooms lend themselves to small families in transitional state, senior citizens or singles. Three bedroom apartments lend themselves pretty much to one type of population - a family with a number of children. Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen indicated that she had discussed this proposed ordinance with a number of -,people and her research indicates that the square footage in this proposal is much more consistent with what the market place will bear and what our City can live with. Mayor Matteson invited Mr. Tony Petta to comment. Mr. Petta indicated he was here representing a number of citizens in this regard. He reviewed the process resulting in Ordinance 104. Mr. Petta indicated that citizens in his area asked him to represent them to Council in this regard and ensure that Council honored their previous commitment to the citizens. Councilman Grant requested that the matter be delayed to allow the citizens Mr. Petta said would be here an opportunity to attend the Council meeting. Mayor Matteson indicated that the Chair will table this item at this time. PUBLIC HEARING The Acting City Manager advised that at a previous Council 7:00 p.m. meeting the Community Development Block Grant Funding for 1987/88 was introduced. At that time it was determined that the Community Development Block Grant Funding for 1987/88 would be used for the acquisition of the improvement for the Mt. Vernon/Barton Road Traffic to include a left turn lane signal. According to the Federal Government Regulation, a public hearing must be held to accept public input into the use of these funds. the funds amount to approximately $20,000 which will be used for the Mt. Vernon/Barton Road Signalization Project. Council Minutes - 3/12/87 Page 13 Dick Rollins Mr. Rollins asked the Acting City Manager to explain exactly 22700 DeBerry St. what the project will entail. The Acting City Manager advised that the project will improve the traffic flow at this intersection so that there will be a left turn pocket to allow for left turns with an arrow. This particular money will be used to acquire right-of-way in the corner, where the liquor store and barber shop are located, so we can place our new equipment which is substantially larger than previous equipment. This particular money is only used for this one corner, as it is the only corner that falls into our target area for the use of the Community Development Block Grant Funding. As there were no further public participation, Council reconvened at 7:00 p.m. CC-87-42 Motion by Councilman Evans, second by Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen, ALL AYES, that Council allocate the 1987/88 Community Development Block Grant Funding for the signalization project at Mt. Vernon/Barton road. ORDINANCE Council continued their discussion on the proposed ordinance. Ame—ending Ordinance 104 The City Attorney advised, as the proposed ordinance will be amending Title 18, it would require a public hearing for public input. Council could introduce the ordinance this evening. However, it will be necessary to forward the ordinance to the Community Planning Commission for a public hearing and no further action can be taken on the ordinance until the public hearing is held and the results reported to Council for their consideration. Council's approval of the proposed ordinance will take place at a public hearing. Therefore, two public hearings will have to be held before this ordinance can be finally approved. Councilwoman Crawford indicated that when Ordinance 104 was approved, she was very much in favor of it to improve the quality of the apartment complexes and reducing the density of the complexes. She felt that her constituents will support retention of Ordinance 104. Councilman Grant indicated that he previously supported the square footage outlined in Ordinance 104 and would not be prepared to support the proposed amendment to this ordinance. CC-87-43 Motion by Councilman Evans, second by Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen, that the proposed ordinance to amend Ordinance 104 be referred to the Planning Commission for consideration. Council Minutes - 3/12/87 Page 14 Commenting to this ordinance, Councilman Evans indicated that size does not necessarily indicate quality of a development. He suggested the emphasis has to be on density. By keeping a larger square footage we encourage more traffic as well as a larger number of people in a development. Accordingly, he thinks it's realistic to go with what has been proposed. Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen indicated that she had spoken to a number of people in regards to Ordinance 104. Their questions always seemed to be; how does the City get into the situation that it is in and how can they get the development back as the City wants it. Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen indicated that apartments of inferior quality can be constructed based on Ordinance 104. She suggested that the ordinance does need to be reviewed and amended in order to accomplish what the City wishes from developments. She indicated that she would prefer no provisions for 3-bedroom apartments and more realistic guidelines for studio apartments. Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen asked that Council give the Planning Commission and the public the chance to re -hear this without cutting it off at this point. Councilman Grant indicated that the public has had input into this matter previously, Council has considered it and he did not believe there was any need to amend Ordinance 104. Mayor Matteson indicated that as each member sits on Council they pass resolutions and ordinances for the operation of the City. As time goes on, there is a need to adjust the resolutions and ordinances for the benefit of the City. These resolutions and ordinances are amended or adjusted based on legitimate reasons. Mayor Matteson indicated he did not feel there was enough scientific reason to justify going back to the Community Planning Commission in this regard. Councilman Evans indicated he would like to have the City Engineer, who has been involved in a number of apartment developments, to provide a list of apartment complexes in the City including the number of studio, 1, 2, & 3 bedroom apartments that there are and the square footage of each unit. He suggested the information gathered in this way would indicate that his figures compared favorably to the apartment already developed. Motion CC -87-43 fails 2-3 with Councilwoman Crawford, Councilman Grant and Mayor Matteson voting NOE. PARKS & Mr. Rollins asked to speak to Council to give a report on the RECREATION Parks & Recreation Committee. Mayor Matteson advised the Dick Rollins meeting had been opened for Committee reports. However, Mayor 22700 DeBerry St. Matteson allowed Mr. Rollins to present his report. Mr. J, Rollins advised they have not made any further progress on the Council Minutes - 3/12/87 Page 15 snack bar. He urges the City Staff to contact the contractor to complete the snack bar. He feels it is urgent that this project be completed as the Little League season is approaching and the School District is putting pressure on the Committee to complete the snack bar. The Acting City Manager advised that he had attended the previous Parks & Recreation Committee meeting and at that time a tender was reviewed for the completion of the snack bar. The total price of the tender was $15,000. The feeling at the meeting was that the Committee and City were not prepared to pay that kind of money for the completion of the snack bar. They have received a commitment from Mr. Barney Karger to act as a project coordinator in an attempt to get the project completed. While Mr. Karger will not be the contractor himself, he will attempt to use his contacts with other contractors and encourage volunteer help so that the project can be completed as quickly as possible and within the budget established by Council. The Acting City Manager indicated he felt it would be premature to take any further action at this time until the Parks & Recreation Committee do something to complete the project. Mr. Rollins reiterated that he felt something had to be done to complete the snack bar. F] Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen suggested that the concern seems to be the upcoming Little League season. She suggest that if the Little League is concerned about the snack bar, they can provide volunteer man power to complete it. Councilwoman Crawford included the swim team in this suggestion. 0 Mr. Rollins also mentioned that the City has completed repairs and replacements at the park site necessary due to vandalism. He indicated some action will have to be taken to cope with the vandalism taking place. Closed Session At 7:23 p.m. Council went into Closed Session with City Engineer Kicak, City Attorney Hopkins and Acting City Manager Schwab and Councilmembers participating. Council reconvened at 7:50 p.m. with all Councilmembers present. Mayor Matteson advised that Council had gone into closed session to discuss potential litigation with no decision being made. LI Council Minutes - 3/12/87 Page 16 rl� J. Council meeting adjourned at 7:52 p.m. with the next regular Council meeting to be held on March 26, 1987 at 5:30 p.m. Council Minutes - 3/12/87 Page 17 Respectfully submitted: APPROVED: