03/26/1987CITY OF GRAND TERRACE
COUNCIL MINUTES
REGULAR MEETING - MARCH 26, 1987
A regular meeting of the City Council of the City of Grand Terrace was called to
order in the Council Chambers, Grand Terrace Civic Center, 22795 Barton Road,
Grand Terrace, California, on March 26, 1987, at 5:35 p.m.
PRESENT: Byron Matteson, Mayor
Barbara Pfennighausen, Mayor Pro Tem
Dennis L. Evans, Councilman
Susan Crawford, Councilwoman
Hugh J. Grant, Councilman
Thomas J. Schwab, Acting City Manager
Joe Kicak, Planning Director/City Engineer
Ivan Hopkins, City Attorney
Loretta Thompson, City Clerk
Randy Anstine, Community Services Director
ABSENT: NONE
The meeting was opened with invocation
by Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen, followed by
the Pledge of
Allegiance, led by Councilman
Evans.
ITEMS DELETED
There were no items
to delete from the
agenda.
CONSENT
The Councilmembers
did not ask to have
any items deleted from
CALENDAR
the Consent Calendar.
CC-87-44
Motion by Mayor Pro
Tem Pfennighausen,
second by Councilwoman
Crawford, ALL AYES,
that the following
Consent Calendar items
be approved:
Item A - Check Register No. 032687
Item B - Ratify 3/26/87 CRA Action
Item C - Waive full reading of Ordinances on agenda
Item D - Approve 3/12/87 Minutes
Item E - Accept & authorize the City Clerk to record the
following Grant Deeds for Barton road dedication from:
Loma Linda University Medical Group - A.P.N.
275-242-12; Constance Nissenson - A.P.N. 277-121-19.
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Item F - Approve & authorize the Mayor to execute a contract
with the County of San Bernardino for the City's
Participation in the County's Weekend Work Program.
Item G - Approve transfer of $20,000 from the Fund 18-912-255
(Slurry Seal) to Fund 16-900-258 & appropriate an
additional $160,000 from the unappropriated fund
balance of the Transportation Development Act Fund for
Street Improvements.
PUBLIC
PARTICIPATION
Ed O'Neal Mr. O'Neal circulated a Memo from the group known as Concerned
22608 Minona Dr. Citizens of Grand Terrace, requesting Council to take the
necessary action to continue the contract for a Community
Services Officer with the Sheriff's Department. Mr. O'Neal
reviewed the background of this contract and outlined reasons
for continuing the contract.
ORAL REPORTS
Thomas Schwab, Mayor Matteson indicated the Acting City Manager had something
Acting City to discuss. The Acting City Manager advised that a budget call
Manager for the 1987/88 Fiscal year has been sent out to committees.
This year Council is being given an opportunity to have input
into the budget procedure before the budget is developed. He
asked Council to establish a date for a preliminary budget
planning session. He indicated that Staff will be receiving
budget forms April 1 and the sooner we can get Council's input
the better.
Council agreed to a workshop session to be scheduled April 16,
1987 at 5:30 p.m. in the Conference Room adjacent to the City
Manager's Office.
Dick Rollins Mr. Rollins spoke to Council with regards to the Parks and
22700 DeBerry St. Recreation snack bar on school property. He indicated that, at
this time, he could not make a statement for the Parks and
Recreation Committee, its membership, the Grand Terrace Lion's
Club, or the City of Grand Terrace with regards to completion
of the snack bar. This project seems to have come to a
complete standstill with nothing having been done since the
last Council meeting. This matter will have to be considered
seriously at the next Parks and Recreation Committee meeting.
The Committee will have to consider securing the building with
doors, lock it up, complete the roof, take the fence down,
clean up the area and leave it up to the individual
organizations to complete the snack bar. At this point, nobody
seem to be very interested in its completion. The school
district's view is that, if the snack bar is not completed,
they want it torn down.
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Councilman Evans indicated that, at the last Parks and
Recreation Committee meeting, there was a discussion about
contracting to complete the snack bar. He asked if the
possibility of completing this project by contract has been
looked into.
Mr. Anstine indicated he received a bid from a contractor who
is willing to complete the project. His estimate to complete
the project was between $21,000 and $25,000. Mr. Anstine
indicated he has also been in contact with other contractors
who have expressed an interest in the project. However, they
are apprehensive about taking over the project as they were not
involved initially.
Councilman Evans indicated it is apparent that we are having
problems with the completion of this project. He indicated
that, in his opinion, time is of the essence and suggested
that, with Council concurrence, Staff be directed to go out to
bid for the completion of this project following all the
necessary guidelines.
Mr. Rollins indicated another point that was brought to his
attention deals with the sewer line, the sewer hookup and sewer
connection. The cost of this service will have to be bourn by
the citizens, as the school district does not wish to assume
these costs. He questioned who would pay for the water and
electricity used. These are things that the Committee did not
look seriously at when they embarked on this project. Mr.
Rollins advised that Mr. Karger had indicated the Committee
could save enough on donated material and supplies to complete
the project within the $15,000 figure. He indicated he did not
know how much the City still had left to pay for this project
or how much the Lions Club is still willing to donate. There
are still a lot of unanswered questions to be dealt with. The
school district is becoming irritated about having the
unfinished building on their property.
Councilman Evans indicated that Council did understand and
appreciate Mr. Rollin's comments. However, Council must now
proceed in getting this matter completed as quickly as
possible.
CC-87-45 Motion by Councilman Evans, second by Mayor Pro Tem
Pfennighausen, that Council direct Staff to go out to bid for
the completion of the snack bar and to bring a comprehensive
report back to Council for further consideration.
Mayor Matteson asked Mr. Rollins if he had contacted any other
organization that may be interested in completing the snack
bar, such as the Lions' Club or the Chamber of Commerce.
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Mr. Rollins indicated that the Lions' Club is the only viable
organization that generally does what they say they are going
to do. Mr. Rollins indicated that, in as much as the Lions
Club have offered funds for this project, he has not gone back
to them and asked them to provide labor for the project.He
indicated that when he can't get the youth organizations,
especially the Little League Organization, out to do something
on this project, he becomes very disappointed as the snack bar
was for the youth organizations use. There doesn't seem to be
any interest in completing this structure at all.
Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen indicated that it seems
inconceivable that we cannot get this project completed.
However, we cannot leave it half done and it does not make any
sense to tear it down. Therefore, we must complete it. She
suggested we might consider a percentage breakoff for the City
on what the snack bar makes to cover the expenses. This may
not cover the cost, but may help defray the expenses of water
and electricity.
Mayor Matteson asked how much money has been invested in the
snack bar to date. Mr. Rollins indicated it would be difficult
to estimate the actual financial investments in the project as
a majority of the material and labor has been donated. The
only actual financial investment in the project has been the
funds expended by the City.
Councilman Grant indicated Council should give serious
thought, in the future, before embarking on a project where we
depend on volunteers who are well meaning initially, but whose
enthusiasm later wanes. He further indicated he feels we have
a possibility of a liability problem here. And, as reluctant
as he is to have this City drawn in like this, he agreed with
Councilman Evans that something has to be done.
Mayor Matteson agreed with Councilman Evans' comments and
indicated he feels Staff should bring in a further report
before a final decision is made.
Councilwoman Crawford indicated that on the agenda tonight is a
contract with the Sheriff's Department for the City's
participation in the County's Weekend Work Program. She
questioned whether these people would have the expertise to
contribute labor to the snack bar. Mayor Matteson asked
Detective Gilbreth, of the Sheriff's Department, if he had any
comment in this regard. Detective Gilbreth indicated he could
not answer the question at this time. However, he stated he
would investigate and report to Council.
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Mr. Rollins indicated he felt he should remind Council that
Mr. Anstine did go to bid for the completion of this project
and received one bid. He also spoke to other contractors. The
point Mr. Anstine brought out was that the contractor who
assumes the responsibility for completing the snack bar also
assumes the liability because there has been no building
permit, no building inspection and no participation by the
City's Building Department. Councilman Evans indicated the
situation is fully understood as it now stands. What Staff
must do now is bring back a report outlining the problems that
exist and alternative solutions to the problems so the building
can be completed.
Motion CC-87-45 carried ALL AYES.
Wilderness Park Mayor Matteson asked what the Wilderness Park Committee was,
Committee how many members serve on it and how often does it meet.
Councilwoman Crawford indicated that the Wilderness Park
Committee is an Ad Hoc Committee that was formed three years
ago. It's membership included Susan Crawford, Jerry Hawkinson,
Joe Ramos, Doug Erway, Frank Ferre, and former Councilman Petta
would sit in on these meetings. Councilwoman Crawford
indicated she had resigned when she was elected to Council.
The Committee met periodically when there was something to
discuss. The purpose of the Wilderness Park Committee is to
create a Wilderness Park consisting of the lands on Blue
Mountain that are not buildable.
Mayor Matteson asked how many times this Committee met in
1986. Councilwoman Crawford indicated she did not believe the
Committee met in 1986. They had reached a point where the
Committee felt they were at a standstill with Council as far as
acquiring land on Blue Mountain. Councilwoman Crawford
indicated she would like to rejuvenate the Committee.
CC-87-46 Motion by Councilwoman Crawford, second by Councilman Grant,
that Mr. Tony Petta be appointed to serve on the Wilderness
Park Committee.
Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen indicated she had no objection to
the appointment of Mr. Tony Petta to serve on the Wilderness
Park Committee. She did have concern about the Committee
itself. When the Committee was formed, Mayor Pro Tem
Pfennighausen indicated she had expressed concern about the
liability the City would be assuming in the Wilderness area as
soon as the property belonged to them. She still has the same
concern. People have hiked and used the side of that mountain
probably as long as the mountain has been there. Nobody is
keeping the people off the mountain. She indicated that, in
case of a law suit, if the City owns the property, the person
bringing suit will be more apt to press for a high financial
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settlement. People are still using the mountain. Leaving the
City open to liability claims seems inconsistent with Council's
job.
Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen further indicated that Mr. Dennis
Kidd, owner of a majority of the property on Blue Mountain,
indicated that, if the City did not take any action on his
offer to sell the property by December 1, 1986, the offer would
be withdrawn as he would not be in a position to take advantage
of tax laws. The situation became more complicated with a
property exchange offer made to Mr. Kidd by Council. The offer
was to exchange Mr. Kidd's property on Blue Mountain for useful
City -owned property that would bring in revenue for the City.
That, along with the fact that the Parks and Recreation
Committee had, on at least two occasions, recommended against
the City becoming involved with the side of that mountain as a
park and recreation facility. She indicated she felt it was
foolish for the City to continue to pursue the use of Blue
Mountain as a City facility. Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen
indicated that she is prepared to make a motion to dissolve the
Wilderness Park Committee, if the motion before Council fails.
Councilman Grant indicated that, as none of the other
Councilmembers were aware of Mr. Kidd's comments to Mayor Pro
Tem Pfennighausen regarding the withdrawal of his offer for the
property, he could not comment on that. However, if the City
is concerned about liability, he would recommend strongly that
we: close down the Park on DeBerry Street immediately; not
build the Park on Pico; not let anyone use Gage Park because he
would not want Edison involved in liability problems.
Councilman Grant stated the City must assume some risks with
regards to recreation facilities. He indicated he was not
talking about going into areas where the City would be inviting
liability problems. He did not think the Wilderness Park is
that kind of situation. He supports this.motion because he
feels that, if we are going to have any continuity in terms of
wilderness or natural park developments, it's going to be
through the auspices of this City. If it is left to private
individuals, it will be left as it is with nothing being
developed. Councilman Grant indicated he feels Council would
be negligent in addressing the recreational needs of the City,
if we avoid this extremely valuable opportunity to have
something to say about the future of that very natural area.
Councilman Evans indicated that he supports Mayor Pro Tem
Pfennighausen's comments as they relate to hiking on the
mountain. This mountain has been hiked for years and it will
continue to be hiked whether the City owns it or not. And,
since it is a mountain and has steep inclines, you incur a
certain amount of danger when you hike there. This would lead
to the possible liability problem, if the City owns the
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property. He feels there is a certain amount of gamble anytime
a public entity assumes responsibility for a public facility
that is going to be used by the citizens. He feels the gamble
has to be taken with regards to the DeBerry Street Park and the
Pico Park Site. He feels it would be foolish to support a
committee unless Council could give 100 percent cooperation for
its purpose. He indicated that he could not support the
development of the Wilderness Park. In his opinion, the funds
should be spent in developing the Pico Park site and upgrading
other parks or other recreation facilities.
Councilwoman Crawford indicated that the object of the
Wilderness Park Committee is to preserve the park for the
citizens, not to spend a lot of money on it. There was never
any intent to spend a great deal of money on the mountain. We
have the opportunity to preserve something in Southern
California that there is not going to be very much of in the
future. She referred to the wild life and to the plant life.
Further, everyone using the mountain is trespassing on private
property. She feels it will be an asset to the community to
have that area as a part of the community to preserve and to
improve it by doing a minimum amount of work.
Mayor Matteson indicated that, as the Wilderness Park Committee
has not met in over a year, he would be in favor of disbanding
it. However, if Councilwoman Crawford wishes to reactivate the
committee, he sees no problem with it. The Committee cannot
make any decision unless they come back to Council for
approval.
Motion CC-87-46 carried with Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen and
Councilman Evans voting NOE.
PLANNING Councilman Grant indicated that members of Council received a
C_O_M_M_I_S_S_I.O_N letter from Mr. Daniel McHugh submitting his resignation from
the Planning Commission. Councilman Grant wished to have a
letter sent to Mr. McHugh expressing Council's deep and sincere
regret on his resignation. He also wished to have Council
proceed to recruit a replacement for Mr. McHugh with the
selection process to be as it has been in the past. Council
concurred with Councilman Grant's suggestions.
COUNCIL
REPORTS
Mr. Arkebauer Councilman Grant advised that one of the "No Parking" sign
installed in front of Mr. Arkebauer's home is missing. He
suggested that another sign be reinstalled.
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Trash To Energy Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen advised she attended the "Trash To
Energy" meeting in San Bernardino and came back quite
frightened at some of the things the testimony brought out.
She mentioned that twelve plants are proposed in the Los
Angeles area and that the prevailing winds make Grand Terrace a
depository for all their pollution. This is something the
citizens of this community need to become informed about.
Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen indicated that there is a petition
here tonight to stop the tire burning plant in support of a
piece of legislation Assemblyman Clute is carrying to place a
moratorium on this type of facility until they know more about
it. The testimony she heard the other night would indicate
they should never build the tire burning plant. The solutions
are not going to be simple, but the people are going to have to
buy into them.
Traffic Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen advised she has spoken to a number
Mt. Vernon Ave. of citizens who are becoming increasingly concerned about the
traffic on Mt. Vernon Avenue at peak traffic time, especially
when children are going and coming to school. People in that
area who have children going to school are asking Council to
put in crosswalks and a four-way stop at Van Buren and Pico.
Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen indicated she would like Council to
consider and discuss the possibility of installing crosswalks
and installing four-way stop signs at Van Buren and Pico
immediately.
On the Mayor's request, the City Engineer indicated that he
would have no problem with the proposal for installing four-way
stop signs at the two corners mentioned. As far as the safety
of the children is concerned, he does not have the count on
pedestrian traffic at those intersections and he does not
recall what the Traffic Engineer's Study of two years ago said
about these two intersections, if anything. If Council wishes
to take action from a technical point of view, Mr. Kicak had no
problem with it.
The Acting City Manager advised that, in discussing this matter
with the City Attorney, it is the City Attorney's opinion
that, if Council wishes to give this direction to Staff, they
could do so at this meeting as it is a health and safety item.
CC-87-47 Motion by Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen, second by Councilman
Grant, Council direct that four-way stop signs be installed at
Van Buren and Pico on Mt. Vernon and that pedestrian
crosswalks be painted immediately.
The Acting City Manager indicated, that along with the
direction from Council, it will be necessary to appropriate the
funds required to install the four-way stop signs and to paint
the pedestrian crosswalks. The City Engineer indicated the
cost of the stop signs and the crosswalks would not exceed
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$2,500. Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen indicated that she would
amend her resolution to include the appropriation of the
necessary funds, second concurred.
Motion CC-87-47 carries ALL AYES.
Riverside/ Councilman Grant indicated he had a suspicion that Council may
Highland Water have done a disservice to the Acting City Manager when they
Board designated him to represent the proxies as well as the City's
shares at the Water Board meeting in the sense that he did not
feel Council gave the Acting City Manager adequate advice on
how to proceed. Councilman Grant indicated he got the
impression that the people in the community were expecting much
more from the City's representative at the Water Board than
they should have. To what extent they were led to believe that
great things would happen if they signed over their proxy he
had no idea. He indicated his understanding is that we did not
have that many shares. That is not totally the City's fault as
you only have the shares people sign over to you. He suggested
that, in the future, if we are going to do this type of thing,
Council should give more concise direction to our
representative as to how to vote on items that are on the
agenda, so that our representative is not being sent in
unprepared.
Councilman Evans indicated that the citizens of Grand Terrace
must realize that the City of Grand Terrace cannot control the
Riverside/Highland Water Board in making decisions favorable to
a residential community. When the City reaches the point where
it carries the majority of shares so that we can make an impact
and ensure that the Board be impaneled with members that are
more favorable to our representation, then we must go out and
make an all-out effort prior to the meeting so that everyone
knows what the City's position is and we can support or reject
it by giving the proxies.
Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen indicated that two things occurred
that may have influenced this situation. One was inaccurate
reporting by the newspaper. Two, while a retraction was made,
it was printed on page six of the paper in very small print.
Therefore, people were not aware that what was reported was
inaccurate. Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen indicated she spent
two days contacting people who had signed over their proxies to
her in an effort to get them cleared so that the Acting City
Manager could act as representative for the City and for the
proxies signed over to the City. She indicated she had cleared
all but ten of the proxies. She indicated she understand that
some of the citizens are upset that the Acting City Manager
left before the meeting was over. She indicated he did what he
thought was correct based on the directions he had. The Water
Company did their usual change and made those votes
ineffective. She thinks that the most important fact that can
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be brought out at this time is that, according to the Chairman
of the Board, Bill McKeever carried a thousand proxies. The
City of Grand Terrace carried a hundred and two proxies. This
would indicate that a lot of citizens did not send in their
proxies. She estimated that probably two thousand did not
submit their proxies. The Water Company belongs to all the
citizens, not just to the City. And we all have to get
involved.
Mayor Matteson indicated that it behooves the City to solicit
all the proxies before the next meeting which would give us
enough power to offset those held by Mr. McKeever. Mayor Pro
Tem Pfennighausen indicated that we have to get more than that
to override the grove owners who are on the Board.
Traffic on Palm Councilwoman Crawford raised the issue of traffic on Palm. She
indicated it is still traveling in excess of 35 mph when Palm
is posted at 25 mph. She indicated she had not seen a patrol
car on Palm since the last City Council meeting. There is the
problem of children on Palm catching the school bus at the
corner of Palm and Preston. Every morning and every afternoon
there are parents who walk their children to school and are
waiting for them in the afternoon. There are no crosswalks on
Palm. She suggested that the only place she could see the
possibility of breaking up traffic was at the corner of
Paradise and Palm. She suggested that perhaps consideration
could be given to installing a four-way stop at this location.
Mayor Matteson asked if there was a particular time when the
excess speed was heavier. Councilwoman Crawford indicated that
traffic on Palm is not particularly heavy, but it is
excessively fast.
Mayor Matteson asked Detective Gilbreth if he would have his
officers patrol Palm to ensure that the speed limit is obeyed.
Detective Gilbreth indicated he would do so.
Mayor Matteson indicated the petition Mayor Pro Tem
Pfennighausen mentioned previously was Assemblyman Steve
Clute's effort to prevent the construction of tire burning
facilities in the Inland Empire. It's for Assembly Bill 514
and Assembly Bill 515 which would create a five-year moratorium
on tire burning plants in urban areas. Mayor Matteson advised
that the petition was available for signature if any citizen
wished to sign it.
Girl Scouting At the March 12, 1987 Council meeting, Mayor Pro Tem
Pfennighausen asked that a resolution be prepared recognizing
the 75th Anniversary of Girl Scouting. She commented on the
week-long celebration of the 75th Anniversay of Girl Scouting
and read the resolution.
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CC-87-48 Motion by Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen, second by Councilwoman
Crawford, ALL AYES, that a RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF
THE CITY OF GRAND TERRACE, CA, RECOGNIZING THE 75TH ANNIVERSARY
OF GIRL SCOUTING be approved and forwarded to the San Gorgonio
Girl Scout Council.
Council recessed at 6:28 p.m.
Council reconvened at 7:00 p.m.
P_U_B_L_IC_ H_E_A_R_IN_G A Public Hearing was held at 7:00 p.m. with regards to a
request for approval of a tentative Parcel Map No. 10439 for a
period of two (2) years.
The City Engineer printed out the location of the proposed
tentative Parcel Map and explained that the proposal is to
subdivide a single parcel into two parcels. The staff analysis
of the proposal is that it would divide a single parcel into
two parcels and that all of the utilities are now available to
both parcels. City improvements exist along Barton Road
frontage. Access to the rear parcel is available by mutual
easement agreement between the City and the property owner.
Staff recommended that the Planning Commission conduct a public
hearing on tentat4iwlsarcel Map No. 10439 to make the findings
as follows:
(A) The proposed Map is consistent with both the General and
Specific Plans.
(B) The design or improvements of the proposed Parcel Map is
consistent with the Specific and General Plans.
(C) The site is specifically suitable for the proposed density
of the development.
(D) The design of the subdivision or the proposed improvements
will not cause substantial environmental damage or
substantial unavoidable injury to fish or wild life or
their habitat.
(E) The design of the subdivision or the type of improvements
will not cause serious health problems.
(F) The design of the subdivision or type of improvements will
not conflict with easements required by the public at
large for access to or use of property within the proposed
subdivision.
This proposed tentative Parcel was submitted to the Planning
Commission who recommends approval of the tentative Parcel Map
No. 10439 to City Council including the findings as outlined in
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the Staff Report and subject to the conditions recommended by
Staff.
There was no public participation in the Public Hearing.
Public Hearing adjourned at 7:03 p.m..
CC-87-49 Motion by Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen, second by Councilman
Evans, ALL AYES, that Council approve tenative Parcel Map
No. 10439 for a period of two (2) years.
Colton High Diane Covarrubias, A.S.B. Vice President, Colton High School
Yellow Jackets Yellow Jackets, was present and advised that the A.S.B. Council
is sponsoring a poster contest. They invited a member of the
Grand Terrace Council to sit on the judging panel for this
contest. Diane indicated that Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen had
agreed to serve on the judging panel as a representative from
the City of Grand Terrace Council. Diane thanked Mayor Pro Tem
Pfennighausen for her willingness to participate in this event.
Riverside/ Mayor Matteson indicated it is his understanding that there are
Highland Water four thousand nine hundred and eighty-eight shares of the
Company Riverside/Highland Water Board available. Two thousand one
hundred and ninety-four and one quarter shares is the
majority. It will be necessary to have two thousand five
hundred seventy-five and one-half votes presented by the next
meeting in order to have an impact on the meeting.
Ed O'Neal Mr. O'Neal outlined, for Council's information, the previous
22608 Minona Dr. submission he had made to Council with regards to the Concerned
Citizens of Grand Terrace's offer to solicit proxies to be used
at the Riverside/Highland Water Board meeting. Mr. O'Neal
indicated that this offer is still available.
Meeting adjourned at 7:08 p.m. with the next regular Council
meeting to be held on April 9, 1987 at 5:30 p.m.
Respectfully submitted:
APPROVED:
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