06/25/1987CITY OF GRAND TERRACE
COUNCIL MINUTES
REGULAR MEETING - JUNE 25, 1987
A regular meeting of the City Council of the City of Grand Terrace was called to
order in the Council Chambers, Grand Terrace Civic Center, 22795 Barton Road,
Grand Terrace, California, on June 25, 1987, at 5:35 p.m.
PRESENT: Byron Matteson, Mayor
Barbara Pfennighausen, Mayor Pro Tem
Dennis L. Evans, Councilman
Susan Crawford, Councilwoman
Hugh J. Grant, Councilman
Thomas J. Schwab, City Manager/Finance Director
Randy Anstine, Assistant City Manager/Community Service Director
Loretta Thompson, City Clerk
Ivan Hopkins, City Attorney
Joe Kicak, City Engineer
David Sawyer, Planning Director
ABSENT: NONE
The meeting was opened with an invocation by Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen and by
the Pledge of Allegiance led by Councilman Grant.
ITEMS TO DELETE Mayor Matteson asked if there were any items to be deleted from
the agenda. The City Manager asked that the Item 2(I) --
Approve appropriation of $1,096.00 from the General Fund
Balance for the installation of a security and monitoring
system for the Grand Terrace Civic Center -- be deleted from
the agenda.
CONSENT
CALENDAR
Mayor Matteson asked if anyone wished to have any items deleted
from the Consent Calendar. Councilman Evans requested that
item 2(F) -- A resolution of the City Council of the City of
Grand Terrace, CA, supporting AB 1637 providing for county
election on half -cent transportation sales tax -- be withdrawn
from the Consent Calendar.
CC-87-135 Motion by Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen, second by Councilwoman
Crawford, ALL AYES, that the following Consent Calendar items
be approved:
Item A - Approve check register No. 062587
Item B - Ratify June 25, 1987 CRA action
Item C - Waive full reading of ordinances and resolution on
agenda
Item D - Approve minutes: (1) May 28, 1987; (2) June 11, 1987
Item E - Approve and authorize the Mayor to execute renewal of
contract (GTC86-10) for street sweeping with Dickson
Company in the amount of $60.02 per hour.
Item G - Approve attendance of Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen,
Councilman Grant, Councilman Evans, and Councilwoman
Crawford at the Mayors' and Councilmembers' Executive
Forum, July 22-24, 1987 in Monterey.
Item H - Approve and authorize final year-end budget
adjustments.
Item F Councilman Evans stated he understands this resolution only
supports placing this issue on the ballot in November 1987 to
allow the citizens of the county an opportunity to vote on it.
Councilman Evans noted he will support the resolution to place
this issue on the ballot. However, this does not mean he is
supporting the half -cent sales tax.
Councilman Grant stated this is the position he took when
SANBAG endorsed AB 1637. He emphasized his support of this
resolution does not necessarily mean he supports the one
half -cent sales tax. It simply means he supports getting the
issue on the ballot.
CC-87-136 Motion by Councilman Evans, second Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen,
that a resolution of the City Council of the City of Grand
Terrace, CA, supporting AB 1637 providing for County Election
on half -cent transportation sales tax be approved.
Mayor Matteson indicated he will not be voting in favor of
this motion as he does not support tax increases of any
nature. Therefore, he is not prepared to vote in favor of
putting this issue before the citizens on a ballot.
Motion CC-87-136 carried with Mayor Matteson voting NOE.
PUBLIC
PARTICIPATION
Mayor Matteson opened the meeting for public participation.
No one signified a wish to speak to Council at this time.
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ORAL REPORTS
Parks and Mayor Matteson noted that a Parks and Recreation Committee
Recreation report was submitted requesting that Council consider
Committee appropriation of an established financial purchase schedule for
future park(s). Mayor Matteson asked Mayor Pro Tem
Pfennighausen to comment on this matter.
Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen noted that, in reviewing the
discussion regarding this matter at the last Council meeting,
she found that no action had been taken on the Parks and
Recreation Committee's report. Council should officially
accept the Committee's report and act on one of the three
alternatives presented. Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen suggested
there was some confusion with regards to what the next step
should be in this process. In order for staff to take any
action on this matter, Council must officially accept the
recommendation from the Parks and Recreation Committee.
CC-87-137 Motion by Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen, second by Councilman
Evans, that Council accept the Parks and Recreation Committee
report and recommendation to appropriate with an established
financial purchase schedule for future parks.
Councilwoman Crawford asked if there was a specific site
recommended. Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen indicated that a
general area was designated but no specific site recommended.
At the direction of Council, the Chairman of the Parks and
Recreation Committee was to meet with the City Manager and the
Director of Planning, in accordance with the procedure
established, to provide information to the consultant doing the
General Plan update. In order for the City to take some
positive action on the Parks and Recreation Committee's
recommendation, it is necessary for Council to act on this
report.
Councilwoman Crawford indicated she would prefer to accept the
report, advised the Committee Council has established a reserve
for future parks and delay any further decision until the
consultant has submitted his report on the General Plan update.
Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen stated Councilwoman Crawford had
repeated her previous comments. The Parks and Recreation
Committee recommends that Council consider appropriation with
an established financial purchase schedule for future parks.
The recommendation did not include a suggested location or
amount. Because of Grand Terrace's limited land size and the
rapid development in the area, Council cannot afford to wait
for another ten years before taking action on this matter.
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Councilwoman Crawford agreed with Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen's
comments regarding the park(s). However, she maintained
Council should proceed with the consultant's recommendation.
Councilman Grant noted that, at the last Council meeting,
Council voted against targeting specific sites for future
parks within the area designated by the Parks and Recreation
Committee. Council also suggested the Parks and Recreation
Committee work with the Director of Planning and the City
Manager to provide input to the consultant doing the General
Plan update with regards to the need for parks in the
community. This supports Councilwoman Crawfords comments.
While agreeing with the need to own parkland, in addition to
possibly leasing parkland from the Edison Company, Councilman
Grant feels Council should wait for the consultant's
recommendation. Councilman Grant indicated he was content with
the area designated by the Parks and Recreation Committee.
There are numerous factors that must be taken into
consideration. One factor to consider is the residents of the
mobile home park. He is aware that Councilmembers Mayor Pro
Tem Pfennighausen and Councilman Evans met with these residents
from time to time, but Council has never come up with a
specific proposal. The anticipated development on Barton Road
will also affect the residents of the mobile home park.
Councilman Grant stated that, as much as he supports the
potential development on Barton Road, he will not support it if
it adversely affects the residents of the mobile home park.
Councilman Grant anticipates that Council can find a location
within the area designated by the Parks and Recreation
Committee for a future park site. However, Council made it
clear to the Parks and Recreation Committee that Council wanted
the Committee to work with the Director of Planning and the
consultant. Further, Councilman Grant questioned how Council
could appropriate money for a park since Council does not know
how large the potential park will be or what it will cost.
Councilman Grant stated that he has supported parks since the
City of Grand Terrace was incorporated. However, in his
opinion, Council should not make a decision until they have
received the consultant's recommendation.
Mayor Matteson asked Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen to repeat the
motion.
Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen stated the motion is to appropriate
with an established financial purchase schedule for future
parks. The resolution does not designate any specific site.
It simply suggests Council establish a schedule so that staff
can proceed to review potential park sites, with the consultant
and the Director of Planning, in accordance with the General
Plan update, and set a time -line to begin to acquire land for a
future park site.
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Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen stated that, if there is grant
money available for purchase of park sites, it will be
necessary to have a specific site in mind. Therefore, she
feels it is necessary to officially adopt the Parks and
Recreation recommendation. Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen
reiterated that she is not stipulating any monetary amounts or
specific locations.
Councilman Evans noted it was interesting that Councilman grant
mentioned the mobile home park. When potential development
within the City of Grand Terrace was first considered, it was
recognized that the needs of the residents of the mobile home
park could not be disregarded. The entire City has been
reviewed to determine where the mobile home park could best be
relocated. It appears that the most acceptable location is the
southwest portion of the City.
Councilman Evans stated it is very crucial to consider the
matter of the mobile home park when looking at the issue of
parks. He and Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen are not ignoring the
residents of the mobile home park in their support of
additional parkland.
Councilman Evans said every factor must be considered when
encouraging development or seeking additional parkland. For
instance, one factor that must be considered is the school
impaction problem in Grand Terrace. Councilman Evans stated he
and Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen have arrived at a tentative
plan which he feels is viable and will be confirmed when the
consultant's recommendations are received. Councilman Evans
stated he supports Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen's recommendation
that Council approve the Parks and Recreation Committee's
report. However, he suggested the Committee should begin to
identify potential areas within the boundaries they designated,
identify what will be needed within that facility, how large
they feel the facility should be, and obtain cost estimates for
the facility excluding land acquisition. Councilman Evans
stated Council cannot wait for the General Plan consultant to
make a recommendation in this regard. In fact, the consultant
probably wants Council to tell him what the city wants. The
Parks and Recreation Committee, through the Director of
Planning, the City Manager, and the consultant can certainly
begin to provide this input.
Mayor Matteson stated he does not see how Mayor Pro Tem
Pfennighausen's motion differs from the position taken by
Councilman Grant and Councilwoman Crawford. The motion does
not state where or what the cost of the park will be.
Councilman Grant indicated the significant difference between
the motion and his position is that the motion, as worded,
includes the entire report of the Parks and Recreation
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Committee. The report implies certain areas for parks within
the area designated. He reiterated that, if Council accepts
this Committee report, they are, in effect, making economic
decisions before planning decisions have been reached.
Councilman Evans has stated that Council supports parks but, at
the same time, Council is not allowing the Committee to provide
input to the consultant which Councilman Evans feel the
consultant wants. Councilman Grant felt that, to allow the
Committee access to the consultant, as Councilman Evans is
suggesting, we are telling the consultant how to draft his
recommendation. He expressed his dissatisfaction with this
procedure.
Mayor Matteson asked Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen to clarify her
motion suggesting that Councilman Grant feels a particular park
site is being specified.
Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen indicated no specific site is
mentioned in the motion. The motion is that Council is making
a commitment and establishing a time -line for the acquisition
of parkland. Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen did say the only area
that appears to be big enough for a park site is the area east
of the freeway and west of Michigan. However, a specific site
is not included in the motion. With regard to advising the
consultant of what the City wants, Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen
indicated the consultant needs to know what Council feels the
community requires so that he can review the entire community
and include these needs in the appropriate location.
Councilwoman Crawford indicated she had the same concerns
expressed by Councilman Grant. However, Mayor Pro Tem
Pfennighausen has clarified her intent. As she concurred with
this intent, Councilwoman Crawford called for the question.
Motion CC-87-137 carried with Councilman Grant voting NOE.
Historical and Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen noted that, in the minutes of
Cultural June 1, 1987 meeting of the Historical and Cultural Activities
Activities Committee, there was a paragraph dealing with the showcase for
the lobby. Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen read the paragraph
concerning the showcase in which mention was made that Viola
will ask Council for a plaque for the showcase showing it was
donated by the Historical and Cultural Activities Committee.
Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen stated that donations come from
individuals or groups of individuals. With this in mind, she
thought that perhaps the members of the Historical and Cultural
Activities Committee had made this showcase a gift to the
City. She found that the Committee had recommended the
purchase of the showcase and Council had authorized the
expenditures. The showcase was not donated by the Historical
and Cultural Activities Committee. Therefore, Mayor Pro Tem
Pfennighausen stated that a plaque is not in order to honor a
donation.
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Councilman Grant noted he had discussed this with Mrs. Gratson,
Chairman of the Historical and Cultural Activities Committee,
and this wording appears to be an error. The Committee is
aware who appropriated the money for the showcase. What was
being said was that the Historical and Cultural Activities
Committee put in a lot of hours with little recognition and
what the Chairman was asking for was something on the showcase
to recognize the Committee's hard work. Councilman Grant
stated he would support a plaque thanking this hardworking
Committee for their dedication.
Councilman Grant expressed his appreciation for the thorough
reports Council is receiving from Committees. He felt the
minutes from the Historical and Cultural Activities Committee
illustrated the type of thorough report being received. His
comments included all committees that do not have city staff to
provide services as does, for instance, the Planning
Commission.
COUNCIL REPORT
Barton Road
Councilwoman Crawford asked the Assistant City Manager when the
and Palm
light in the triangle at Barton Road and Palm would be
replaced? The Assistant City Manager advised the light that
was in that location is being re -ordered.
National Council
Councilwoman Crawford indicated she had attended a National
for Urban
Council for Urban Economic Development Workshop on developer's
fees. The workshop was very educational. She will be
Economic
preparing a report on the workshop for distribution to Council
Development
and staff at a later date.
Minutes
Councilman Grant stated he is increasingly happy with the
minutes prepared by the City Clerk. He noted he made some
rough criticisms of the City Clerk's initial minutes. However,
the minutes that were approved at this meeting were excellent.
Southern
Councilman Grant stated he was honored when Council appointed
California
him as their representative to the Southern California Joint
Joint Power
Power Insurance Authority. However, he has not attended any of
Insurance
their meetings as they meet in La Palma, California. He does
not intend to drive to this particular location to attend the
Authority meetings. He questioned the value of attending the
meetings of this organization as he feels this organization
concentrates their efforts on the activities of the Los
Angeles/Orange County area. Therefore, Councilman Grant
submitted his resignation from the Southern California Joint
Powers Insurance Authority.
Arliss Drive
On overhearing Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen's comments with
Curbs
regard to a disaster area in Grand Terrace to the north of
Barton Road and to the east of Mt. Vernon, Councilman Grant
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stated he had inspected the area. He saw a tremendous amount
of mud. A closer examination of both sides of that street,
particularly between Barton Road and Minona Drive, reveals that
the street has been resurfaced several times. As a result,
there has been an accumulation of materials along the curb,
especially in the gutter area. This has consequently
diminished the curb height. On certain portions of that curb,
the curb itself slopes down. Councilman Grant expressed his
concerns about this situation. He asked staff to review the
situation and determine what action can be taken to eliminate
the problem.
Graffiti Councilman Grant stated that Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen had
mentioned, several months ago, the graffiti in the city,
particularly in the southern part of the City. Councilman
Grant advised he had investigated this matter and found Mayor
Pro Tem Pfennighausen was correct. This graffiti was
atrocious. He suggested that whenever the City constructs
fences and walls, graffiti is being invited. The people who
commit this type of crime are only hurting themselves and the
beauty of this city.
Pit Bulldogs Councilman Grant indicated that in this morning's paper there
was an article about Pit Bulldogs. He suggested that other
communities have passed legislation prohibiting the animal and
questioned why the City of Grand Terrace could not legislate
prohibition of Pit Bulldogs, as well. Councilman Grant
requested that staff look into this possibility.
Arliss Drive Mayor Matteson asked the City Engineer to prepare a report on
Arliss Drive with suggestions on what can be done to improve
the curb and gutter situation on Arliss Drive.
Councilman Evans suggested this report will encompass the
complete grading of that street, the laying of new asphalt,
and the construction costs. He questioned whether Arliss Drive
was one of the streets designated for an overlay in 1987.
The City Engineer indicated he did not believe Arliss Drive was
included in the schedule for an overlay in 1987. He further
stated he did not believe there has been an overlay done on
Arliss Drive since the incorporation of the City. The curbs,
as they exist now, are probably an accumulation of the overlay
done before the incorporation of the City. The only thing the
City of Grand Terrace has done in that area is a slurry seal
about four years ago.
The Community Services Director stated that, when the City of
Grand Terrace does any overlay work, they require the contract
to "feather in" with the existing curb or match the gutter
grade. In those areas where the AC is above the gutter flow
line, the City grinds it down so that it does meet flush.
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The City Engineer suggested that, in this area, there may not
be much gutter. It is likely there is just a gutter and
asphalt that was laid against that curb. The roughness of that
"flow line" along the gutter line is the result of high
velocity water eroding the asphalt. He believes Council is
asking what is necessary to bring these streets to a standard
the City now finds acceptable.
Mayor Matteson agreed that is what Council is requesting.
Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen indicated she believed the standard
street number height on the curb is 3 inches and asked if this
was correct. The City Engineer indicated that the normal
numbers height, with a frame, would be greater than 4 inches.
One of the pictures Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen circulated
shows the curb is so shallow that half of the numbers are
laying on top of the curb and half are laying on the face of
the curb. At a maximum, that curb is 1 1/2 to 2 inches high.
Where the driveways come down, in many driveways, the asphalt
rises 3/4 of an inch to 1 1/2 inch above the driveway
entrance. The water is trapped there and cannot go any place.
She asked if the City Engineer will have the report for Council
at the next meeting. The City Engineer indicated he would.
Michigan and Councilman Evans mentioned there are potholes at the
Pico intersection of Michigan and Pico. He asked that this be
remedied.
I-215/Barton Rd. Councilman Evans indicated that earlier this year he had asked
Interchange the City Engineer to contact Caltran to request an update on
their participation on the Barton Road/I-215 interchange. He
asked if any further studies had been completed pertinent to
that. The City Engineer advised there has been no response to
his last request. Councilman Evans asked the City Engineer to
follow up with Caltrans to determine what action has been taken
in this regard.
Beautification Councilman Grant mentioned that a month or so ago he raised the
of the Freeway issue of beautification of the freeway area by Caltrans. He
Area asked what the chances were of getting some kind of shrubbery
added to the plants which are already there. The same question
should be raised with Caltran with regards to the population
sign. The present signs are not accurate and Councilman Grant
would like the people coming up Barton Road to know that the
population is the same as coming in from Riverside.
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Council Meeting Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen suggested that Council needs to
Date give consideration to changing the date of the last Council
meeting in July due to the Mayor's and Councilmember's
Executive Forum being held in Monterey, July 22-24, 1987.
Council concurred that the July 23rd Council meeting will be
postponed until July 30, 1987.
Mobile home
Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen indicated she had a call from Mrs.
Park
Mendes who lives in the mobile home park on Michigan. Mrs.
Mendes advised there is a tan or beige Ford pickup parked in
front of the mobile home park which has been there for three
weeks. The vehicle is inoperable. A tenant owns the vehicle
and Mrs. Mendes has asked them to remove the vehicle. They
refused to do so. Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen asked if
Lt. Reynosa would investigate this and take the necessary
action.
Skating Rink
Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen indicated problems are beginning to
occur at the skating rink again. These problems have a direct
impact on the residents of the mobile home park across the
street. With the warmer weather and the longer evenings, the
kids at the skating rink tend to get rowdy and to wander to the
front area of the mobile home park. She asked that Lt. Reynosa
look into this matter.
Planning
Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen stated she is greatly concerned
Commission
about the Planning Commission's Minute book not being
Minutes
maintained adequately. To prepare for this meeting, Mayor Pro
Tem Pfennighausen indicated she checked the Planning Commission
Minute book to do some research. She found that the last set
of minutes in the book were dated January 19, 1987. Mayor Pro
Tem Pfennighausen stated she becomes upset when information is
not available when she wishes to do research. More
importantly, the Planning Commission Minutes are legal records
of the action of the Planning Commission. Mayor Pro Tem
Pfennighausen asked that the Planning Commission Minute book be
brought up-to-date within the next two weeks.
America Lung
Mayor Matteson advised he had attended the American Lung
Association
Association meeting held June 24, 1987. During that meeting
Mayor Matteson accepted a proclamation on behalf of the City of
Grand Terrace for passing their smoking ordinance.
Gene McMeans
Mayor Matteson congratulated Mr. Gene McMeans for being named
citizen of the year for the City of Colton.
Jim Goode The City Manager advised that a request had been received from
21800 Barton Rd. Mr. Goode, owner of the Barton Business Plaza, 21800 Barton
Business Plaza Road, for special consideration in the M-R area where his
building is located. Mr. Goode received a conditional -use
permit for the development of the Barton Business Plaza. For
every tenant that Mr. Goode wishes to locate in this building,
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he must obtain a separate conditional -use permit. This
requires paying the required fee and having a public hearing on
the application. Staff requested that during the interim
period, while Title 18 is being reviewed, the Director of
Planning be allowed to have discretion in issuing conditions on
the conditional -use permit for this particular development with
a fee to be set at one hundred ($100.00) dollars. The Director
of Planning would be allowed the discretionary powers until the
Title 18 Review is completed and a possible recommendation for
change to the M-R zone is submitted.
Councilman Evans indicated this is not a new problem. It has
been in existence since before the building was constructed.
the staff's proposal is realistic.
CC-87-138 Motion by Councilman Evans, second Councilman Grant, ALL AYES,
that Council approve and authorize the City to enter into an
agreement with Mr. Jim Goode, 21800 Barton Road, Barton
Business Plaza with terms as outlined in the staff report.
Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen indicated that this situation could
have been prevented. When this project was considered
originally, she called this possibility to the attention of
Council. Council, at that time, indicated that there would be
no problem.
Councilwoman Crawford stated she finds it disturbing that a
businessman has to go through this procedure just to lease a
building. She questioned whether there was some other way
Council could get around this problem and avoid re-creating
problems in the future. Councilwoman Crawford feels Council
has to make Grand Terrace a pleasant place in which to live and
do business. Otherwise businesses will not be attracted to
Grand Terrace.
Motion CC-87-138 carried ALL AYES.
The City Attorney advised that the action taken tonight would
satisfy this particular problem. If there is a particular
problem with a proposed use, the Director of Planning would
then require a conditional -use permit for that one use. It is
the staff's intent that the zoning ordinance be amended, in
this particular regard, to eliminate future problems.
The City Manager advised that the zoning ordinance is being
reviewed in all zones to make it more friendly.
Jaeger Mayor Matteson advised a request had been received from Jaeger
Development Development Company for authorization to expand classroom
Company operation (ITT) at 22365 Barton Road. The City Manager noted
that, currently, in a C-2 zone, a school is not permitted.
Staff has attempted to work with Jaeger Development and ITT to
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initiate an amendment to Title 18 for consideration during the
Title 18 review. The proposed amendment would facilitate a
school in a C-2 zone with a conditional -use permit. The City
Manager reviewed the process which began in February 1987 when
the staff found that a school was in operation at this
location. It appeared that ITT was unaware that a school was
not a permitted use in a C-2 zone. An agreement was worked out
with ITT to complete their current semester. The agreement
terminates on July 5, 1987. The present request is for a six
month extension of this agreement. Staff feels that a ninety
day extension would be sufficient to go through the Title 18
revision process to determine if a school would be an allowable
use in a C-2 zone. The City Manager advised that the staff
recommendation is to allow non -enforcement to continue for a
period of ninety days and that no expansion of the school
facilities be made at this time.
Councilwoman Crawford indicated that, considering ITT is a
business and, if this request is not approved, ITT will need to
relocate, she does not feel their request for six months is
excessive. If their request is refused, ITT will need time to
plan a relocation.
The City Manger advised that six months would put ITT into
their fall semester and ITT would, probably, request a further
extension in order to complete the fall semester. He advised
that ITT is preparing a proposal on that site for Council's
consideration. They will be asking Council for a limited use
of four classrooms, until Title 18 can be revised. It appears
there will be a solution to this problem before the end of
July.
Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen stated she has a real problem with
this particular issue and the way it started. Council tried to
be accommodating by allowing ITT to complete their term. Mayor
Pro Tem Pfennighausen indicated she had attended the Planning
Commission meeting where the Commission dealt with this
request. While she could not quote any specific action of the
Planning Commission because the minutes were not available, she
recalled that parking was not the only concern. The Planning
Commission was also concerned about circulation in and out of
that site. ITT was supposed to provide more information
regarding vehicular access, but they did not do so. However,
Council let ITT proceed so as not to impact their students for
the term. Now Council is going to allow them to continue into
another term at the end of which a request for a further
extension may well be presented.
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Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen stated she did not feel this was a
good site for a school. The problems discussed at the Planning
Commission were valid. The parking solutions are horrendous.
One proposed solution was to purchase a lot on Barton Road and
turn it into a parking lot. This site would not be adjacent to
the school. Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen questioned whether
students would park in a parking lot not adjacent to the school
if parking was available closer to the facility.
Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen advised that when ITT originally
located in Grand Terrace their intent was to build a new
building that would enhance the community. Council can
effectively eliminate this possibility of a new building being
constructed by allowing this illegal use to continue. If ITT
proposed to build a building in Grand Terrace, she would be in
favor of giving them a limited extension.
Councilman Evans asked if the current zoning ordinance would
allow technical or vocational school use in C-2 zones. The
City Attorney advised that current C-2 zones will not allow
schools as a permitted use.
Councilman Evans asked what procedure would have to be followed
to allow a school in a C-2 zone. The City Attorney advised
that the school would have to request a zoning ordinance
amendment which would allow school usage in a C-2 Zone.
Councilman Evans questioned whether they would be able to get a
conditional use or variance to allow them to locate in a C-2
zone. The City Attorney advised the school could request a
variance but the variance would not solve the problem.
Councilman Evans questioned whether Jaeger Development or ITT
sought to have an amendment to the zoning ordinance. The City
Attorney advised that, at one time, such an amendment was
scheduled to come before the Planning Commission. The
applicant requested that the request be taken off the Planning
Commission agenda. Councilman Evans asked when that took
place. The City Attorney advised this action took place in
March 1987.
Councilman Evans asked when ITT occupied the building. Mr.
McNeil of Jaeger Development indicated he believed ITT occupied
the building in February 1987. For clarification, Councilman
Evans questioned whether ITT had occupied the building before
Jaeger Development initiated the amendment to the Title 18.
Mr. McNeil confirmed this understanding. After ITT moved in
Jaeger Development found ITT would not be granted a business
license to operate in this location. His firm approached the
City Attorney who explained that an amendment to the C-2 zoning
would be required. As of that time, Council was planning to go
through a Title 18 Review. Jaeger Development decided to ask
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to be included in this review and were advised that the Title
18 Review would take place in April or May of 1987. This
review has still not taken place. That is the main reason
Jaeger Development is requesting this extension.
Councilman Evans re -stated the situation and asked the City
Attorney whether ITT was located in the building illegally.
The City Attorney advised ITT was cited for being an illegal
use.
Councilman Evans asked Mr. McNeil what Jaeger Development has
done to attempt to rectify this problem other than the proposal
before Council at this time. Mr. McNeil advised they had
filed, through the City Attorney, a request that Jaeger
Development be included in the Title 18 Review. Once the C-2
area was amended, Jaeger Development planned to apply for a
conditional -use permit.
The City Attorney advised that, after citing ITT and Jaeger
Development Company for the illegal use of the facility, they
were notified they would have to request an amendment to the
zoning ordinance. It was suggested that proceeding through the
title 18 Committee would probably take too long because of the
hearing requirements and the length of time it would take. It
was suggested that Jaeger's application for an amendment to
Title 18 should be made separately. The proposed amendment to
the zoning ordinance was then scheduled as a separate item
before the Planning Commission and then removed at the request
of the applicant. Because the City wished to assist ITT, the
City staff have not recited ITT even though they continued to
be in violation of the zoning ordinance. Staff agreed to allow
ITT to complete the semester with the agreement terminating
July 5, 1987. The City Attorney advised that is why this issue
is before Council at this time. If Council chooses to continue
with non -enforcement, that is their decision.
Councilman Evans echoed Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen's concern
on this issue. He was also present at the Planning Commission
meeting where this issue was discussed. While parking was an
issue, circulation in and out of that facility was also a major
concern. Whether or not the C-2 zone is amended as requested,
there will always be a problem at this location. Councilman
Evans' major concern was allowing an operation to begin without
obtaining all the necessary permits. Allowing this to continue
would simply perpetrate the problem. Councilman Evans stated
he could not support the request.
Mr. McNeil advised their original agreement with ITT was for
one hundred and twenty days to try to satisfy the requirements
of the Planning Commission. This time -frame was based on when
it was anticipated the zoning ordinance would be reviewed. He
originally understood the review would be undertaken sometime
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in April. Now it looks like it will be the end of July or
sometime in August before the review will be done. Jaeger
Development is requesting enough time to bring a formal
proposal before Council. He felt this could be done in ninety
days.
Mayor Matteson indicated he would support Staff's
recommendation for several reasons. This building is hard to
rent and a large number of vacancies in the city is not
conducive to attracting developers to Grand Terrace.
Councilman Grant expressed concern about what seems to be a
non -resolvable parking problem. He stated he would be opposed
to the proposal for parking. There is land along Barton Road
that will, ultimately, be used to improve a very tenuous tax
base in this community. He could not see using this property
to park cars to provide space for students who, while spending
some of their money in this community, are not going to be
creating the revenue this community needs as compared to other
developments that could go into the same space. Councilman
Grant noted that he would support the staff recommendation
merely to see what would be proposed. However, he did emphasis
he has grave reservations about the parking problem.
CC-87-139 Motion by Mayor Matteson, second by Councilwoman Crawford,
carried with Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen and Councilman Evans
voting NOE, that Council authorize the non -enforcement for a
period of ninety days and allow operations to continue at the
current level of activity with no expansion of school
activities.
PUBLIC HEARING
Determination The City Attorney advised this is an appeal of a decision of
of use the Planning Commission regarding the language and the
Robert Keeney determination of use made by the Planning Commission. The
Northwest corner applicant is Robert Keeney. The Planning Director provided the
Barton/La Crosse staff report and advised that staff recommends that Council
uphold the Planning Commission's determination that a
recreational vehicle park is not a permitted use in the City's
C-2 zone.
PUBLIC
PARTICIPATION
Mayor Matteson opened the public hearing at 6:45 p.m. He
invited those who wish to speak in favor of the appeal to make
their presentation at this time.
Mayor Matteson advised he had received two letters with regards
to this issue. One letter came from Mr. and Mrs. Glen Clark,
who opposed the proposed land project, and the other letter was
from the Grand Terrace Chamber of Commerce Economic Development
Committee, who supported the project.
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Mr. Robert Mr. Keeney stated he wished to appeal the Planning Commission
Keeney decision regarding the determination of use in a C-2 zone for a
recreational vehicle park. Mr. Keeney emphasized he is
requesting a determination of use and not requesting approval
for a specific project. However, the project needs to be
discussed because the determination of use specifies that this
project or similar projects will not be approved without a
conditional -use permit.
Several factors are involved that lend themselves to the use of
this property for a multi -use project. First the property is
approximately two hundred seventy five (275) feet on Barton
Road and over a thousand (1000) feet the other way. The front
one third (1/3) of the property is ideally suited for a
commercial project, and it has good exposure to Barton Road and
fairly good exposure to the freeway. However, farther back,
there is no exposure and retail development would not succeed
in that area. Secondly, the surrounding uses are compatible to
commercial uses and a recreational vehicle park. Directly to
the east of this property, there is an older commercial center
tentatively scheduled for renovation and a vacant piece of C-2
property and to the west there is an older mobile home park in
need of renovation and to the north there is an R-3 zone on
which there has been a great deal of discussion and a
moratorium has been placed. The proposed project would not be
effected or affect this R-3 property. Mr. Keeney pointed out
that it is almost three hundred (300) feet from this property
to any R-1 zone. Mr. Keeney suggested that, because of the
limited amount of money being invested in the project, the
recreational vehicle park could be demolished and a major
development constructed.
Mr. Keeney stated the intent is to put a showcase on this
corner that would be the guideline for the architectural
development of that area.
Another reason he feels a recreational vehicle park would be an
appropriate use for that area is that the class of people using
recreational vehicles is usually middle class or upper class
who can afford a thirty to fifty thousand ($30,000.00 -
$50,000.00) dollar vehicle. Mr. Keeney discussed the type of
people who would be frequenting a recreational vehicle camp
with representatives of Camping World to get an idea of what
could be expected. The owner of Camping World indicated that
the majority of the people will, likely, be fifty or fifty-five
years old or older. He has never seen a noise problem in a
recreational vehicle park. Mr. Keeney stated that, if this
project is approved, a six (6) feet block fence will be
constructed around their project. This fence will be more for
aesthetics than for noise control. He stressed the
recreational vehicle park will bring in people who are very
affluent and who will be spending money in Grand Terrace.
However, they will not tax any of the City's social services.
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Mr. Keeney stated he understands there are legitimate concerns
by the neighbors of the proposed project. He is prepared to
attempt to mitigate these concerns as much as possible.
Traffic is always a problem with any type of development. The
proposed recreational vehicle park has a hundred seventeen
(117) spaces and the average stay is three (3) days. Mr.
Keeney suggested that if these vehicles left and returned each
day, there would be only two hundred and forty trips a day or
about ten (10) an hour. Mr. Keeney noted most of the traffic
generated by the recreational vehicle park will be after the
City's peak traffic hours. Locating the recreational vehicle
park close to the freeway may possibly limit the recreational
vehicle traffic within the City itself.
One of his major concern is that, if the commercial area is
developed to the front of the property and nothing to the back,
there will be nothing there to draw people to the commercial
center. The commercial retail center will definitely benefit
from the recreational vehicle park and the recreational vehicle
park will benefit from the commercial retail center.
Mr. Keeney stated that by putting their recreational vehicle
park there, the process of cleaning up the front entrance to
Grand Terrace will begin and, hopefully, this will generate
additional renovation and construction in this area.
Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen indicated that, while the
discussion is not project specific, it is difficult not to be
project specific when you know there is a particular project
L planned for that area. She stated she has received numerous
comments with regards to the possibility of developing an
recreational vehicle park in this area. The comments deal with
the possibility of the recreational vehicle park creating a
noise problem and becoming an eyesore. She indicated that in
all the recreational vehicle parks that she had patronized,
there were curfews which were strictly enforced by on -site
twenty-four (24) hour management. She asked Mr. Keeney if he
plans to have management on -site twenty-four (24) hours a
day.Mr. Keeney advised that he did.
She suggested the average person using the recreational vehicle
park, as long as the length of stay was restricted, would be
acceptable. She further indicated she felt that the length of
stay would have to be established and rigidly enforced. She
suggested a seven (7) day limit.
Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen stated her other concern is the
access to the recreational vehicle park. She suggested that
the turning radius for some of the larger recreational vehicles
would make it difficult to safely enter the park as proposed.
Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen asked the City Engineer whether,
from the point the recreational vehicle leaves the freeway and
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enters Barton Road to where they intend to enter the
recreational vehicle park, the large recreational vehicles
would have problems making this turn.
The City Engineer advised that, presently, they would. He
suggested the driveway would have to be widened considerably to
provide the turning radius for a 5th wheeler. It could be
done, but it would restrict the parking on the northerly side
of Barton Road between the entrance of the driveway and some
distance beyond that.
Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen asked whether, if the parking on
the northerly side of Barton Road was restricted, a fair amount
of property would be required to provide adequate access into
the recreational vehicle park.
The City Engineer indicated the width of the driveway will be
the deciding factor. He feels that a twenty (20) foot driveway
(a commercial driveway) will provide adequate turning space for
a 5th wheeler.
Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen stated her concern was
not,specifically, with the volume of traffic but with a
recreational vehicle's ability to make the turn into the
recreational vehicle park.
Mr. Keeney indicated Stater Bros trucks used this road
everyday. They have a commercial driveway and they do not
appear to have trouble making the turn. Mayor Pro Tem
Pfennighausen stated that the Stater Bros trucks do not have to
come off the freeway onto Barton Road and immediately make a
turn into a driveway. Mr. Keeney indicated there is almost two
hundred fifty (250) feet before the entrance into the proposed
recreational vehicle park. While Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen
understood what Mr. Keeney was saying, she still had concerns
about the entrance into the proposed recreational vehicle park.
Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen indicated that, since this
determination of use was first suggested, it has been stressed
it is not project specific. However, she feels, in a City the
size of Grand Terrace, it is understood that a proposed
recreational vehicle park will go into this area only and no
other area in the City of Grand Terrace. Mayor Pro Tem
Pfennighausen stated she can see a recreational vehicle park as
a use similar to a motel. She stated she would be in favor of
an recreational vehicle park on this particular location.
However, she would not be in favor of an recreational vehicle
park in any other C-2 property within the City of Grand
Terrace.
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Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen stated that, while she has no
personal objection to this as a project, she would have to be
assured that the commercial project would be completed before
the recreational vehicle park is developed. She further stated
she has received nothing but negative feedback from the people
adjacent to the site. Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen indicated
her preference would be for the property in this area to be
assembled and a meaningful project developed. She also
suggested that a good deal of money is going to have to be
spent to get this project underway, and the City will probably
be asked to forgive various fees. She is not prepared to waive
a lot of fees later. Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen emphasized
again that she does not see a recreational vehicle park as an
acceptable use in all C-2 zones in Grand Terrace and she would
not support that.
Councilwoman Crawford agreed it is necessary to be project
specific in discussing this proposal. She further suggested
that Mr. Keeney has addressed the Director of Planning's major
concern which is that the developer has indicated a willingness
to demolish this development if another development is proposed
that would better benefit the City. Councilwoman Crawford
stated that she would like to see both the recreational
vehicle park and the commercial development open at the same
time. Her reason for this was that, if a commercial was put in
before the recreational vehicle park they may have difficulty
becoming established. If both the recreational vehicle park
and the commercial center opened at one time, it would be more
logical from a business point of view.
Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen said she could agree with this
position.
Councilwoman Crawford stated she did not feel she could support
a recreational vehicle park in any C-2 zone other than the site
suggested. Personally, she feels that the proposed site for
the recreational vehicle park is an excellent location and that
the recreational vehicle park is a good interim use for this
property.
Councilman Grant asked Mr. Keeney what he saw as the traffic
flow onto Grand Terrace Road by way of the east/west land
connecting with Grand Terrace Road. Mr. Keeney advised that he
owns the property and sees no traffic flow from that lane onto
Grand Terrace Road. The intention is to have property
available for emergency vehicles only. There will be no
recreational vehicle traffic out of the park onto Grand Terrace
Road. Mr. Keeney indicated this piece of property will be
gated to ensure that no traffic leaves the recreational vehicle
park onto Grand Terrace Road.
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Councilman Evans indicated he understood that Mr. Keeney had a
U-store approved for this location at one time. Mr. Keeney
indicated that was correct. Councilman Evans asked why the
building was not constructed. Mr. Keeney advised, that by the
time he received approval for this development, there were two
similar stores in the area and he did not feel it was
economically feasible to proceed with the development.
Dick Yost Mr. Yost stated that the Chamber of Commerce Economic
Chairman of Development Committee prepared a letter to Council in support
Grand Terrace of this project. He read the letter for Council's
Chamber of information. Mr. Yost indicated the Chamber of Commerce
Commerce Economic Economic Development Committee would like to see the
Development determination of use for this property approved so that the
Committee project can proceed to the next stage. In his opinion, this
development would be a good project for the entrance to Grand
Terrace.
Mayor Matteson asked Mr. Keeney what type of uses were being
considered for the commercial center.
Mr. Keeney advised that, at this time, they have no tenants.
He plans to construct a laundry that would be used by both the
recreational vehicle park and the general public. Camping
World has indicated they are prepared to establish a small
store in this recreational vehicle park. Mr. Keeney has also
been talking to a hardware store.
Mayor Matteson asked if they had considered the inclusion of a
restaurant in this commercial area. Mr. Keeney indicated they
are considering a restaurant. He suggested that one of the
reasons there is a problem in getting a restaurant in the area
is that there is nothing there to attract people to the area.
If a project is developed in this area, Mr. Keeney feels they
will be able to attract a restaurant and other commercial uses
into the area.
Mayor Matteson invited those who wished to speak in opposition
to the project to do so at this time.
Ken McClellan Mr. McClellan indicated he is not opposed to this proposal. In
21882 Grand fact, the proposal could be a lot better than many things that
Terrace Road could be put into this area. Mr. McClellan is opposed to the
change in the zoning. It appears that everytime there is
something done with the zoning there is a need for a variance
or a conditional use permit. Since the City is presently in
the process of a General Plan revision, Mr. McClellan suggested
the decision on this matter be held in abeyance until the
revision is completed and include this possible use in the
General Plan if that is Counci l's wishes. Mr. McClellan feels
that a zoning ordinance should list all the uses that can be
included in a particular zone and then adhere to those rules.
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He reiterated that he is opposed to changes in the zoning
ordinance but not to the specific project, providing it is
constructed in the manner described.
Marie Stauber
Ms.-Stauber indicated she agreed with Mr. McClellan. There is
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a General Plan revision under way. This area is the first area
Terrace Road
being considered in the General Plan revision. Ms. Stauber
indicated she feels uncomfortable with all the changes to the
zoning ordinance. She recommended that this matter be held in
abeyance pending the completion of the General Plan Update.
Once the General Plan and the zoning ordinance have been
updated, Ms. Stauber suggested they be adhered to.
Lois Pierce
Ms. Pierce indicated she would have no objection to a
Mobile Home Park
recreational vehicle park if it was adequately supervised.
This would be one means of bringing additional businesses to
the City of Grand Terrace.
Mr. Keeney indicated he wants to be a good neighbor. There is
no way the project will succeed if it is poorly planned or
poorly managed.
The public hearing adjourned at 7:25 p.m.
Councilman Evans stated his position always has been that the
City of Grand Terrace has neglected sound, comprehensive
planning since incorporation. In his opinion, we are seeing
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the beginning of good planning with the General Plan revision.
He suggested that the point was well taken that we wait for the
General Plan consultant's recommendations before making a
decision in this regard. Councilman Evans recognizes we are
discussing whether or not a recreational vehicle park is a
compatible use in a C-2 zone, not the project itself. However,
we have to be project specific when we look at that area.
Councilman Evans stated that the best utilization of the area
is to assemble several parcels for a large development. He
further indicated that traffic will be a horrendous problem.
Councilman Evans stated he could not support the request
tonight. He believes the Planning Commission was very pointed
in their concerns. Vice Chairman Hawkinson made a valid point
when he stated he did not feel a recreational vehicle park is a
project that he would like to see in any C-2 zone in Grand
Terrace. In his opinion, Councilman Evans stated a
recreational vehicle park is not a compatible use for this
area. He suggested the upgrading of the interchange would have
to be investigated and further that the entrance into the
proposed recreational vehicle park would have to be review in
detail.
CC-87-140 Motion by Councilman Evans, second by Mayor Pro Tem
Pfennighausen, that Council take no action on Mr. Keeney's
appeal pending the General Plan Update.
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The Director of Planning advised that the portion of the
General Plan that will be considered in July will concern the
General Plan and the zoning for that area. It will not concern
revising C-2 zones itself. The M-2 portion of that lot may be
changed to C-2 destination. The C-2 zoning may be changed or
it may remain depending on the recommendation from the
consultant. However, the consultant will not be looking at the
C-2 zoning to be able to say that a recreational vehicle park
would be a permitted use. The consultant will be looking at
the residential zones and not the commercial zones. That
decision will not come about until about September.
Mayor Matteson indicated that what is being considered is
whether a recreational vehicle park would be a permitted use
with a conditional use permit. Council is not looking at
actually approving the proposed development at this time.
Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen asked, if the Planning Commission
approved Mr. Keeney's development and Mr. Keeney constructed
the proposed recreational vehicle park, meeting all the
conditions as established by the Planning Commission, and
another developer came in with a proposal for a recreational
vehicle park, and was prepared to meet all the conditions
required of Mr. Keeney, could the second proposal for a
conditional -use permit be denied. She asked how the recent
Supreme Court decision would affect the City of Grand Terrace
in this regard.
The City Attorney indicated he did not believe this decision
would affect the City of Grand Terrace at all in this
particular situation. However, Council's decision this evening
would have a direct, precedent setting affect in that Council
would have made the determination that this use was an allowed
use in a C-2 zone. He advised that conditional -use permits are
meant to address specific projects and to protect the City,
neighborhood, and community from particular projects by
imposing conditions. Council's decision would have a precedent
setting affect for future recreational vehicle parks that might
be located in Grand Terrace. However, each project will have
to stand on its own merits when it comes to conditional -use
permits.
Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen restated her question by saying
that, given two similar pieces of property and identical
developments, could Council refuse a second request for a
recreational vehicle park in any C-2 zone in the City of Grand
Terrace, providing Mr. Keeney's project is approved and in
place at the time?
The City Attorney advised that, given similar circumstances,
Council will not be able to refuse a conditional -use permit for
a second recreational vehicle park.
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Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen indicated this was her concern with
regards to this request for the determination of use. She
suggested that if the determination of use is made in favor of
the proposal being considered at this time, Council would be in
a position of having to continually support their position that
this project is good for this particular site but not for any
other C-2 site in the City. While not opposing the proposed
project, Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen indicated she has a lot of
concerns with regard to it and is against making it an
allowable use in a C-2 zone.
Councilman Grant indicated several concerns mentioned were very
valid. One being that the commercial center not be developed
before the recreational vehicle park is developed. His concern
was that once the determination of use is given in favor of the
developer, how much control could be exercise over what is
placed in the development. Councilman Grant stated he liked
the proposal submitted by Mr. Keeney. However, he would not
like the project if the recreational vehicle portion was
emphasized to the detriment of the commercial portion of the
project. He also agreed that the commercial portion of this
project would benefit the City. He agreed that the City of
Grand Terrace does have the reputation for changing zoning
relatively frequently. However, he feels this will be
addressed with the revision to the General Plan. He is
concerned about the possible precedent being established here.
He emphasized he does not have some of the concerns expressed
by Councilman Evans and Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen with
regards to access to the recreational vehicle park. Councilman
Grant indicated he feels it is very important no decision is
made on this issue until the consultant's report with regards
to the General Plan Update has been received. Councilman Grant
indicated that, while he fully supports the project,
particularly if the emphasis is given to the commercial portion
of the project, he cannot support any action at this time
pending the results of the General Plan Review.
Councilwoman Crawford indicated that, in general, there does
not appear to be any opposition to this particular project
except opening up the zoning to this type of project. She
indicated there was a problem with the use of the area and
requested that staff come back to Council with a recommendation
that will solve the problem.
Councilman Grant suggested that, if the motion before Council
passes, he wishes to make it clear that his position may
reverse once he has the consultant's report in this regard.
The City Attorney suggested that one way of handling this
situation is by granting a variance, which would mean going
back to the Planning Commission and holding hearings.
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In that way, it would not be
decides to do this, the City
be fair to waive the fee for
precedent setting. If Council
Attorney suggested it would only
applying for variance.
Mayor Matteson indicated that when a developer comes into a
city and proposes a development, Council does not support the
proposal. The area to be developed is the gateway to the
City. Council has an opportunity for a nice development in
this area. However, it appears that Council is going to
discourage this project as well.
Councilwoman Crawford requested that the motion be re -stated.
Mayor Matteson indicated that the motion was to deny the
recommendation of the Planning Commission.
Councilman Grant indicated he understood the motion was to
sustain the recommendation of the Planning Commission.
Councilman Evans, maker of the motion, agreed that the intent
of the motion was to sustain the recommendation of the Planning
Commission. Mayor Pro Tem Pfennighausen, who seconded the
motion, agreed.
Councilwoman Crawford asked the City Attorney, if Council does
sustain the Planning Commission decision, could the developer
apply for a variance. The City Attorney advised they could.
Councilwoman Crawford asked if the City Attorney was positive.
The City Attorney advised all the Planning Commission has said
is that they do not feel that, within the meaning of the City
zoning ordinance, in a C-2 zone a recreational vehicle parks is
an allowable use. And obviously, if it was, it would require a
conditional -use permit. If the Planning Commission's
recommendation is upheld, Council is just accepting with their
interpretation. The applicant could then approach the
Commission with a request for a variance.
Councilwoman Crawford questioned whether this would make
Council's position and the Planning Commission's position
stronger if a similar proposal was submitted in the future that
was not desired. The City Attorney agreed that is correct.
Motion CC-87-140 carried with Mayor Matteson voting NOE.
CC-87-141 Motion by Mayor Matteson, second Councilman Grant, carried with
Councilman Evans voting NOE, that Council waive the variance
fee if the developer chooses to apply for a variance.
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The meeting adjourned
Council meeting which
5:30 p.m.
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at 7:45 p.m. until the next regular City
will be held Thursday, July 9, 1987 at
Respectfully submitted:
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