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03/28/1985CITY OF GRAND TERRACE COUNCIL MINUTES REGULAR MEETING - MARCH 28, 1985 A regular meeting of the City Council of the City of Grand Terrace was called to order in the Council Chambers, Grand Terrace Civic Center, 22795 Barton Road, Grand Terrace, California, on March 28, 1985, at 5:38 p.m. PRESENT: Hugh J. Grant, Mayor Byron Matteson, Mayor Pro Tempore Tony Petta, Councilman Barbara Pfennighausen, Councilwoman Dennis L. Evans, Councilman Seth Armstead, City Manager Ivan Hopkins, City Attorney Joe Kicak, City Engineer Myrna Erway, City Clerk ABSENT: None The meeting was opened with invocation by Don Crawford, Southern California Gas Company, followed by the Pledge of Allegiance, led by Councilwoman Pfennighausen. SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS Mayor Grant read and presented a Citizenship Award from the City and the Crime Prevention Committee to Orville Hollstein, a mail carrier in the City. Sheriff Floyd Tidwell, San Bernardino County, presented a Distinguished Service Award to Orville Hollstein in appreciation for outstanding service and dedicated law enforcement for providing information to the Sheriff's Department which resulted in the arrest and imprisonment of an individual responsible for 103 residential burglaries, including 12 within the City. Mayor Grant advised that a Certificate of Commendation from the City was presented to Deputy Keith E. Larson on March 22 upon his retirement from the San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department. Mayor Grant read and presented a Proclamation designating the month of April as "California Child Abuse Prevention Month" to Susan Crawford, Chairperson of the Crime Prevention Committee. DELETED AGENDA ITEM - Minutes of 3/7/85. ADDED AGENDA ITEMS -- 1D - Resource Recovery Facility; 9D - Roberti Z erg Park Grant Funds. Page 1 - 3/28/85 Southern California Gas Com any Presentation - Donald Crawford, Inland ivision District Manager, intro uce im ing as the new District Manager for this area and presented a status of the natural gas industry; advised the Company is available to resolve any problems which might occur and still provides many free services to the residents. CIVIC CENTER CONSTRUCTION BRIEFING City Manager Armstead advised Item 5 on Architect's Field Report No. 53 should state that a safety switch was put on the podium and was not disconnected. Notice of Completion - Councilman Petta declared a potential conflict of interest on this matter since he was named in the report. Architect Larry Wolff stated at the time of substantial completion of the Civic Center a punch list was established listing all architectural, structural, mechanical and electrical deficiencies, including comments from the City Engineer, which basically have been corrected. Recommended filing the notice of completion, as required by the contract documents and specifications. Realizes the City's position relative to accepting final completion due to the relationship with the contractor throughout the project due to disagreements on some deficiencies. Agrees with the contents of the City Manager's March 27 letter. In the event any or all deficiencies remain after the 35-day period, recommended that he meet with the City Manager and City Attorney to determine a reasonable value to correct the remaining deficiencies, either by the general contractor or a different contractor, to withhold that amount for each related condition, and release the remaining retention monies. Mayor Grant stated a distinction is being made between the notice of completion and the release of retention funds; questioned what happens to the retention monies after the 35 days. The City Manager stated filing the notice of completion starts the 35-day period in which liens can be filed against the contractor; the City is required to withhold sufficient funds to honor those claims until resolved. Sufficient funds will be retained to cover the cost of any deficiencies not corrected. The performance bond will also remain in effect for one year which is 100% of the total project. City Attorney Hopkins advised the contract documents contain a requirement that the contractor guarantee workmanship and materials one year. The performance bond guarantees performance of the contract, so any claim within the one-year period would be a potential claim upon the performance bond. Mayor Grant stated the notice of completion and non -release of retention monies has more force than the performance bond because that is immediate. The building is leaking and has locks that don't work which must be fixed. Page 2 - 3/28/85 EI Councilwoman Pfennighausen thought an alarm button was planned for the Finance area. Architect Wolff advised the contract documents provided for the conduit and a push button which he understands the City has. The telephone company is responsible for the wiring and installation. The City Manager advised a similar device will be installed on the Council dias; concurred installation is not the architect's responsibility. Mayor Pro Tem Matteson thought the deficiencies could remain indefinitely if all monies are released except the value of those items. Thought the contractor would expedite completion of the project if the funds are withheld. Mayor Grant questioned and was advised staff's recommendation is to file the notice of completion and retain funds if the deficiencies are not completed. City Attorney Hopkins stated the contract documents require a notice of completion to be filed when the project is substantially complete. The architect indicated in a letter dated March 14 to the contractor that in his opinion the contract is substantially complete and the project is ready for filing the notice of completion. If Council does not concur it may delay filing the notice. The City Manager's letter recommends filing a conditional notice of completion specifying the completion of deficiencies and to retain sufficient monies to ensure completion of the deficiencies. Recommended retaining ample funds as an incentive for completion. Mayor Grant questioned who determines when the notice of completion is no longer conditional. City Attorney Hopkins stated when Council determines the conditions outlined by the City Manager have been met. If the deficiencies are complete at the expiration of the 35 days the funds will be released; the funds cannot be released prior to that time. Mayor Grant stated the purpose of the conditional notice of completion must be made clear to the contractor in writing. CC-85-62 Motion by Mayor Pro Tem Matteson, Second by Mayor Grant to file a conditional notice of completion but don't release any funds until the conditions listed in the City Manager's letter of March 27, 1985 are met, carried 4-0, with Councilman Petta abstaining. MINUTES (2/28/85) CC-85-63 Motion by Councilwoman Pfennighausen, Second by Councilman Evans, ALL AYES, to approve the Minutes of February 28, 1985, amended to reflect 100 hours of compensatory time on page 8 under the Mid -Year Budget Review. Page 3 - 3/28/85 CONSENT CALENDAR CC-85-64 Motion by Councilwoman Pfennighausen, Second by Councilman Petta, ALL AYES, to approve the following Consent Calendar Items: A. Check Register No. 032885; B. Ratify 3/28/85 CRA Actions. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION Eileen Hodder, 22253 Van Buren, questioned if Council is considering including the air conditioning of Terrace Hills Jr. High School in the FY 1985/86 Budget. Council advised a decision cannot be made on this matter until the upcoming Budget sessions are conducted. Councilwoman Pfennighausen recommended the School District consider year -around schools to make better use of the facilities. COMMISSION/COMMITTEE REPORTS Planning Commission - The April 1 Agenda and March 4 Minutes were provided. PARKS & RECREATION COMMITTEE Chairman Dick Rollins reported: (1) No quorum at last meeting; (2) Committee thinks the senior citizens exercise course should be located on land to be donated by Griffin Development since the present park is crowded and many senior citizens will not go into the park due to the young groups present; (3) Present park is heavily used; new park site will be needed. Mayor Grant stated he would like a status summary on the problems at the park with recommendations on what should be done and what Council can do to make it a better park. Mr. Rollins stated problems exist in every city; the City has better control of the park than many small cities. Very little vandalism occurs in proportion to surrounding cities. The problems are pretty well under control since the Sheriff assists with closing the park at night. Thinks the rapid growth of the City is creating problems; new residents don't seem to take care of the park or drive as carefully; an educational program is needed. Commended Jayne Ainsworth on the excellent job she is doing, stating he thinks the City has one of the best recreation programs for a city of its size. Councilwoman Pfennighausen thought the exercise course would be for the use of the entire community and the young people will not necessarily stay away from the other area. Mayor Grant questioned and was advised SCE now indicates it will retain Cage Park. It can be scheduled for use by the public. Page 4 - 3/28/85 11 ROBERTI-Z'BERG PARK GRANT FUNDING RESOLUTION NO. 85-04 - A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF GRAND TERRACE, A, —APPROVING THE APPLICATION FOR GRANT FUNDS UNDER THE ROBERTI-Z'BERG URBAN OPEN -SPACE AND RECREATION PROGRAM FOR ACQUISITION OF EQUIPMENT FOR RECREATION TINY -TOT PRORAM AND ACQUISITION AND INSTALLATION OF EXERCISE STATIONS FOR NEW CITY PARK. The Staff Report indicated $4,000 would be used to augment City -approved funds to purchase an exercise station(s) and $749 would be used to acquire furniture for the tiny -tot program. Councilman Petta questioned if the grant funds could be used for other projects other than those specified; questioned purchasing furniture since it is available at the Community Center. Councilwoman Pfennighausen concurred with the furniture purchase, noting using folding chairs and large tables is a safety hazard for toddlers. Councilman Petta, Councilwoman Pfennighausen and Councilman Evans questioned purchasing the exercise course, since similar courses in the area are seldom used. Councilwoman Pfennighausen and Councilman Evans recommended attending the next Seniors' Meeting to ask them if such a course would be used. Council questioned if the funds could be used for other projects. Community Services Director Anstine stated the funds must be committed within 30 days; recommended adopting the Resolution submitted so it could be mailed to the State to encumber the funding, then designating different uses for the funds at the next meeting, if desired. CC-85 65 Motion by Mayor Pro Tem Matteson, Second by Councilman Petta, ALL AYES to adopt Resolution No. 85-04 and to approve the appropriation of $1,080 from the Park Development Fund Balance to be transferred to Line Item No. 13-4444-701, leaving a fund balance of $3,920. CRIME PREVENTION COMMITTEE Chairperson Susan Crawford reported: (1) The first Town Meeting was held March 27 in the Council Chambers; an excellent film on Neighborhood Watch was shown; hopes to have better attendance at the next meeting on April 17 at 7:00 p.m.; (2) Stated Clove cigarettes being purchased by young people in the City are dangerous. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ADHOC COMMITTEE Mayor Pro Tem Matteson stated questionnaires were mailed out in the Chamber Newsletter; the next meeting is April 2. Tom Schwab, reporting for Chairman Rigley, thanked United Safety Associates for the use of the business reply permit for the questionnaires. City Manager Armstead stated he has asked Mr. Schwab to see if the Committee would be interested in locating possible school relocation sites and to coordinate the matter with the school district. Councilwoman Pfennighausen disagreed with this as a committee function. Stated this matter should be related to the district site Page 5 - 3/28/85 committee to look into potential school sites. Mayor Pro Tem Matteson stated Staff was directed to consider potential school sites and report back to Council. CITY ATTORNEY REPORT 0 City Attorney Hopkins reported the following: (1) Noted the matter of Gage Canal access was discussed during a Planning Commission Public Hearing conducted March 25; since negotiations with Gage Canal and the City of Riverside relative to acquiring access have been unsuccessful, the City Manager directed the City Engineer and him to pursue necessary procedures to acquire access. Information and the necessary resolutions will soon be brought before Council for consideration. Councilman Evans questioned realigning Canal Street. The City Engineer stated once alignment is determined, they would proceed with either the acquisition or condemnation to acquire only the portion needed; however, all the roadway north of Newport is on Gage Canal property. Noted he had suggested the City plan the circulation within the triangular R-3 area, since the City is involved in planning of property owned by several developers. Mayor Pro Tem Matteson felt the City should not assume expense to benefit the developer. Felt residents objected to R-3 zoning because they foresaw traffic problems. Councilman Evans stated he was not suggesting the City assume developer costs; felt if the developer doesn't address the circulation of traffic in the Specific Plan process, the City will have to determine where the streets will be. Felt problems would exist whether zoning is R-1 or R-3. Recessed at 7:16 p.m. and reconvened at 7:34 p.m. with all present. COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT PROGRAM City Engineer Kicak advised the two applications for CDBG Grant funding are eligible projects. The two projects are a water system on the northwest side in the vicinity of Vivienda, Burns, Maple and Walnut Avenues, and bridge replacement across the Southern Pacific Railroad on the western portion of Barton Road. The City is entitled to approximately $90,000 for the next three-year funding cycle; recent estimates indicate approximately $94,000 may be available. The purpose of the Public Hearing is to receive community input on projects which could be considered within the target area as defined by HUD. Requested project prioritization following Public Hearing. The County Office of Community Development would like the cities to consider projects in the initial year, 1985-86, which would encumber all funding allocated to the cities under the entitlement through 1987-88. Mr. Kicak stated 50% of the Barton Road bridge is located in Colton; a field review was conducted with FHWA, Caltrans, local officials and Page 6 - 3/28/85 Colton; Colton is interested in the project provided CDBG and city funding is available for the local share of the cost. The estimated cost is $860,000, with the local costs to be proportioned between the two cities; the proposal is to construct a two-lane bridge. Staff contacted all affected property owners on the water system, as directed, requesting a response by March 15; five responses were received, with four indicating an interest in participating and one indicating no interest. Mayor Pro Tem Matteson questioned if the bridge replacement could be four -lane or constructed with the intent to widen it to four lanes in the future. Mr. Kicak stated Caltrans thought the limitations, such as an EIR, would eliminate the possibility of available funding during this bridge replacement cycle. The major improvement would be the vertical alignment. Any bridge can be widened. Cost is the factor. Councilman Evans questioned and was advised a response has not been received from Colton; felt the project should be four lanes and would be beneficial to Colton since that area is industrially zoned. Councilman Evans requested that the City Engineer prepare a list of affected property owners in the water system area to allow personal contact. Mayor Grant questioned and was advised there has been no further contact with Supervisor Riordan; her staff has indicated portions of the funding on those projects would be of high priority, but no funds could be committed until the City has selected projects. Mayor Grant opened Public Hearing; receiving no public input, Mayor Grant closed Public Hearing. CC-85-66* Motion by Councilwoman Pfennighausen, Second by Councilman Petta, that the fire protection and water system improvements receive first priority, and the Barton Road bridge replacement as low -priority number two, disagreeing with a two-lane bridge replacement. Councilman Evans recommended actively pursuing a four -lane bridge replacement by gathering all data and means of funding. Mr. Kicak stated the City may be unable to take advantage of the present bridge replacement funding if it insists upon a four -lane bridge. This bridge was placed on a bridge replacement program while under County jurisdiction. Staff has not actively pursued this funding. Recommended requesting that Caltrans keep the bridge on the list and asking what is needed to get the bridge widened to four lanes. Mayor Pro Tem Matteson recommended proceeding with a two-lane bridge with future widening to four lanes if a four -lane bridge is not feasible at this time. Mr. Kicak stated it is preferred but not mandatory to commit the entire $90,000 at this time. The City could fund the entire cost of $54,000 for the water system if desired. Other projects can be identified later if funding is available. Page 7 - 3/28/85 * Motion by Councilwoman Pfennighausen, Second by Councilman Petta to amend Motion No. CC-85-66 to remove the Barton Road Bridge replacement from the priority list and to only consider the fire protection and water system improvements at this time. 0 In discussion it was clarified that the bridge or other projects can be identified later for CDBG Grant funding, which would require the same process of determining eligibility and conducting a public hearing. It was also clarified that this Motion is adopting the water system as a project and is not indicating that the City will pay the full cost of $54,000 for that project. Motion No. CC-85-66, as amended, carried, ALL AYES. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF GRAND TERRACE, CA, AMENDING GRAND TERRACE MUNICIPAL CODE, SECTION 10.16.020, RELATING TO THE STORAGE OF COMMERCIAL VEHICLES (First Reading) City Attorney Hopkins read the Ordinance; stated it deletes the provision for eight -hour parking, thereby prohibiting commercial vehicles to park in residential areas except for loading or unloading. Mayor Grant opened the meeting to public input. Dick Rollins, 22700 DeBerry, recommended additional advertising of tFis or—Td nance to ensure awareness throughout the community. James Roberts, 22009 DeBerry, questioned and was advised commerclaT-vehicles are not prohibited from parking on private property. Councilwoman Pfennighausen stated she was asked to read a letter addressed to the City Council dated 3-28-85 from Vivian Aldrete, 12656 Michigan, indicating the many truck drivers living in the City must park their vehicles where they can take care of them. Councilman Evans questioned any truck drivers in the audience if there is a reason why the trucks must be parked in residential areas in lieu of a bigger location; the public did not respond. Mayor Pro Tem Matteson stated he has received calls about trucks parked in front of residents' homes; trucks can park in commercial areas; feels all citizens must be given consideration. CC-85-67 Motion by Councilwoman Pfennighausen, Second by Mayor Pro Tem Matteson, ALL AYES to approve first reading of the Ordinance amending Section 10.16.020 of the Grand Terrace Municipal Code by title only. RESOURCE RECOVERY FACILITY Brian Esgate, IWA Engineering, introduced Jerry Wood who showed a video cassette and made a presentation regarding a proposal to locate a resource recovery facility in the City to accept trash from the surrounding areas to be turned into energy. A similar facility is to be located in Irwindale. Requested indication of Council support prior to pursuing this project, since a feasibility study is costly and community acceptance is necessary. 0 Page 8 - 3/28/85 Council questioned how much land would be needed and where the facility would be located; impact, such as noise and traffic, on surrounding area; any potential hazard of chemical mixtures with pressurized containers being thrown in trash; the hours of plant operation; potential revenue to City; potential trash litter problems in the City with so many refuse trucks coming into the City; whether this proposal has been presented to other cities; whether any funding would be required of the City, and how such a facility would affect the City'a image. In response to Council questions, stated the facility would be a source of revenue for the City; estimated 1.6 million the first year, and possibility of $3,000,000 by end of year 2,000; Irwindale will participate in revenue sharing after a few years; is also getting a new freeway offramp so refuse trucks will be able to go directly to the facility, which is being paid for by the developer; could propose the same for Grand Terrace. The refuse would not be presorted, all activities would be conducted in an enclosed area, and there would be no hazardous waste or air pollution. There are no similar facilities in the area; Irwindale representatives went to Ft. Lauderdale, Florida to view a facility. The facility would require approximately 20 acres near the SCE facility. Motion by Mayor Pro Tem Matteson, Second by Councilman Petta, to give no further consideration to the proposal to locate a resource recovery facility in the City failed 2-3, with Mayor Pro Tem Matteson and Councilman Petta voting AYE. Mayor Grant clarified the purpose of his NOE vote is to ascertain more information prior to making a final determination and does not indicate approval of the project. Councilwoman Pfennighausen recommended that similar presentations be made to organizations within the community. Recessed at 9:38 p.m. and reconvened at 9:51 p.m. with all present. CITY ATTORNEY REPORT (continued) Arbitration - Further consideration of this matter has been continued to May . CITY MANAGER REPORT He and the Finance Director attended an American Money Management Market Forum March 22; attended TAC Committee Meeting; will provide a decision on overtime and compensatory time to the City Attorney for a written opinion. COUNCIL REPORTS Councilman Petta: (1) Questioned and was advised work on the left -turn signal or t. ernon is in progress and that the bots dots on Barton Road will be included in the Barton Road Project; (2) Referenced a letter from Phil Wagner relative to his controvery with Wilden Pump about trees; questioned if this has been resolved. City Engineer Page 9 - 3/28/85 Kicak stated the minutes of the previous Council meeting on this matter were forwarded to Wilden Pump requesting that the work be initiated; has communicated with both parties in writing; has no authority to force resolution of the problem. Mayor Pro Tem Matteson and Councilwoman Pfennighausen stated Mr. Tuck advised them Wilden Pump previously gave Mr. Wagner $600 to stucco or paint his wall; Mr. Wagner kept the money but did not rennovate the wall. Councilman Evans: (1) Questioned and was advised alternatives for zoning of property in the area of Vista Grande Way and Grand Terrace Road will be on the next agenda; (2) Referenced the 2-14-85 Minutes and questioned whether information has been obtained relative to the use of 1984 private activity bonds for a storm drain project; was advised staff is awaiting a determination of uses for these funds. (3) Referenced a New Jersey news article stating an appeals court ruled an employer can be held liable if an employee gets drunk at an office party; the article further advised cities not only should be concerned about employee functions but public functions held in city -owned facilities; requested the City Attorney's opinion on this relative to the City allowing alcohol in the Community Room. City Attorney Hopkins concurred the City could be liable if employees were allowed to have office parties involving alcohol; would need to review the referenced opinion prior to stating an opinion as to the applicability of the simple use of city -owned facilities by third -party groups. (4) Attended a seminar in Irvine involving disciplinary actions primarily for fire and law enforcement personnel, but also applicable to public employees; questioned the City's current policy on grievance procedures relative to protecting the City against future liability and its adherence to case rules relative to discipline and who has the ultimate responsibility for decisions on these matters. City Attorney Hopkins stated he doesn't know if there is ever a way to write a policy to eliminate the possibility of future liability; stated the City's current policy was taken from the San Bernardino County personnel rules and does comply. (5) Councilman Evans stated the next item concerns the City Engineer and City Attorney positions, and that what he is proposing does not reflect on the type of services presently being provided. Has been reviewing the procedures for hiring and the costs for these two positions. Thought, with the continual review of budget and the opportunity of saving money, possibly this would be a good time to make sure the City is getting all it is paying for; there might be other city attorneys or city engineers in that field that could provide the same service a little cheaper; questioned whether RFP's should be circulated and exploring the possibility of a contract specifying a definite time period, such as three years, rather than an open-end agreement. Mayor Grant stated Council has always made an effort to consider public agencies and private firms for contractual services, including Page 10 - 3/28/85 law enforcement; thinks everybody would support looking for the best service at the least cost. Council has always considered the relative value of the two incumbent contractors; has looked at the quality of service and percent of increases in cost each year; doesn't think they have been out of line with other increases; noted the increases each year in the law enforcement services; the City is receiving good service. Thinks the procedures followed have been equitable and free from favoritism. Councilman Petta stated proposals have been received over the years for city engineer, none of which made Council want to consider a change. The City Engineer has requested and received one raise since incorporation. Thinks the City has the best engineering service for the lowest possible cost. Is not aware of receiving proposals for city attorneys; present individual provided satisfactory legal service since prior to incorporation and cost seems to be satisfactory. City Attorney Hopkins advised his rates have increased $5.00 per hour since incorporation. Councilman Evans thought everyone should be given the opportunity to submit bids for review to ensure the lowest cost for services. Noted RFP's were originally circulated for the city engineer but not for the city attorney or planning services. Mayor Pro Tem Matteson disagreed with circulating RFP's unless there is a specific problem; stated less isn't always the best; there is a loss of value in continuity having contractual staff that have been working on the same job, are aware of the history, know a lot of previous problems and can handle new ones based on experience. Councilman Petta concurred, stating the City Engineer, through involvement with the sewer project, thoroughly knows all aspects of the City. The City Attorney also knows the City thoroughly, and due to expert advise has kept the City out of lawsuits; does not want to change something that has a proven record. Mayor Grant stated he concurs with Mayor Pro Tem Matteson and Councilman Petta relative to satisfaction with quality of service being provided and that sometimes the most responsive is not the lowest cost or the best. Concurs with Councilman Evans that the City must always consider proper procedure in terms of getting the best for the dollar. Councilwoman Pfennighausen stated since the dollar is becoming tighter the City must keep avenues open; does not question the present quality of service; questions contracting for planning services vs performing this function in-house. Requested that comparative figures of contracting for planning vs planning costs when they were performed in-house be provided prior to budget sessions so Council can evaluate whether this function should be contracted or performed in-house. Councilman Evans questioned if the Mayor would be opposed to sending out RFP's for those services prior to budget sessions. Mayor Grant stated he would not be opposed; the City needs to know what it can afford prior to circulating RFP's so it should be part of the budget process; until proven otherwise, is satisfied with present services; this would be part of the Finance Director's responsibility under Page 11 - 3/28/85 supervision of the City Manager to provide Council with needed information to formulate the FY 1985-86 Budget. Councilwoman Pfennighausen stated she recently learned that each prospective occupant of a commercial manufacturing park presently being developed in an M-R Zone on Barton Road is required to get a conditional use permit prior to occupancy. After discussion with the City Attorney he wrote a letter dated March 14, 1985 outlining the procedures to change the requirements. Requested that the Planning Department provide information on compatible uses within a consolidated area and prepare the information required to be presented to the Planning Commission for consideration of amending the M-R Zoning restrictions. Alcoholic Beverages - City Attorney Hopkins stated it is difficult to try to apply a New Jersey decision to California law. It is conceivable there could be some liability attached to some of the joint and several liability under California law in the event the City was found to be negligent in not providing proper supervision. CC-85-68 Motion by Councilman Evans, Second by Councilwoman Pfennighausen, to rescind previous Council action permitting the use of alcoholic beverages in any City facility. Councilman Petta questioned prohibiting light alcoholic beverages such as wine or champagne to be served for weddings, since a guard is required to be present and it requires Council approval. Councilman Evans stated you are liable if you allow alcohol on the premises. City Attorney Hopkins advised to say we would be liable because somebody used our facility doesn't attach liability; negligence would have to be shown on the part of the City. Mayor Pro Tem Matteson disagreed with prohibiting alcoholic beverages based on a New Jersey decision, particularly since negligence must be proven. Mayor Grant stated he has always opposed the use of alcoholic beverages in public facilities. Motion No. CC-85-68 carried 3-2, with Mayor Pro Tem Matteson and Councilman Petta voting NOE. Ma or Grant reported: (1) He and Councilwoman Pfennighausen attended the dedication ceremony of the Praise Fellowship Foursquare Church; (2) Referenced previous discussion regarding obtaining the best service at the lowest possible cost; requested that Staff investigate not only planning, engineering and legal services, but also law enforcement, animal control, weed abatement, printing and other services required by the City to provide the necessary data to Council for consideration during the budget process. Noted there are some instances in which sole source can be legally justified. SCAG BUDGET Finance Director Schwab advised the SCAG Executive Committee has recommended a $225,000 budget for next fiscal year. The City's share, based on population, for continued membership is to increase by $40.06 to $222. Recommended approval since many services are provided by this organization. Page 12 - 3/28/85 CC-85-69 Motion by Mayor Pro Tem Matteson, Second by Councilman Petta, ALL AYES to approve continuing membership in SCAG for $222.00. i- PUBLIC USE POLICY - COUNCIL CHAMBERS/CONFERENCE ROOM City Manager Armstead reviewed the Staff Report on this subject; recommended that the Council Chambers and Conference Room be used only for Council and Planning Commission meetings, unless directed by Council for specific functions, due to costs in manpower, utilities, risk insurance and maintenance/repair costs of specialized equipment. Councilwoman Pfennighausen stated the public has been promised that over 50% of the building is for public use; felt the Council Chambers could be used for seminars and for Saturday morning movie programs for young people; a town hall meeting was held there. Would have voted against construction of the building if there had been indication the facility would only be used 3-4 times a month. Other meeting facilities are already heavily used. Concurs the equipment is expensive and requires supervision. Thinks groups other than non-profit groups should be required to pay for the use of the facilities. The facility was designed for public use and should be used as such. Councilman Petta concurred and supported staff recommendation. Stated the recommendation does not say no one else can use the facility; it says we must have control over the Council Chambers. If the equipment is not properly supervised it will cost thousands of dollars to ' repair. The meeting room was built for public use. If Council feels it is appropriate for certain groups to use the facility, it is within the control of Council. Councilman Evans concurred with Councilwoman Pfennighausen's statements. CC-85-70A Motion by Councilman Evans, Second by Councilwoman Pfennighausen to reject Staff's recommendations pertaining to the use of the Council Chambers for meetings. Mayor Grant stated the main issue is to what extent can the City afford to have staff supervise the Council Chambers. Wants it to grow old with grace, but not overnight, since the construction costs were extensive. Concurs the facility was intended for public use to the maximum extent possible. Wanted a staff report prepared which would allow Council to decide what to do; would have preferred a modification of the staff recommendation. CC-85-70B Motion by Mayor Grant, Second by Councilman Petta to amend Motion No. CC-85-70A to have staff prepare a report for Council showing the feasibility or probability of providing staff services to the Council Chambers during its use. Mayor Grant clarified the intent of his Motion is that he wants the matter resolved, but doesn't think sufficient choices were provided. Informal discussions with staff Page 13 - 3/28/85 indicated it would be physically impossible to have staff available due to the cost in terms of overtime. Wants the building for public use but thinks supervision of the delicate equipment is needed. Councilman Petta stated the heating and air conditioning should not be turned on to accommodate a small group of people. A smaller room should be used for those purposes. The Motion to amend, Motion No. CC-85-70B, carried 4-1, with Councilman Evans voting NOE. Motion No. CC-85-70A, as amended, carried 4-1, with Councilman Evans voting NOE. Judy Rinderhagen, 12738 Wilmac, stated she would liked to have spoken prior to Council voting on this matter. Resents not being trusted as a citizen within the building. Has been told this is a public facility for the citizens of Grand Terrace. Concurs some control is needed. Resents the public not being asked questions before voting. Mayor Grant stated he saw no indication that she desired to speak. CLOSED SESSION Council recessed to Closed Session at 11:40 p.m. to discuss personnel matters, with City Manager Armstead and City Attorney Hopkins in attendance. RECONVENE - The regular meeting reconvened at 12:15 a.m. with all members present. Mayor Grant announced Council met in closed session to discuss personnel matters and administrative procedures, with no decisions made. 0 ADJOURN - The regular meeting adjourned at 12:16 a.m. The next reg— u� meeting will be held April 11, 1985 at 5:30 p.m. Respectfully submitted, APPROVED: Mayor Page 14 - 3/28/85