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05/09/1985CITY OF GRAND TERRACE COUNCIL MINUTES REGULAR MEETING - MAY 9, 1985 A regular meeting of the City Council of the City of Grand Terrace was called to order in the Council Chambers, Grand Terrace Civic Center, 22795 Barton Road, Grand Terrace, California, on May 9, 1985, at 5:52 p.m. PRESENT: Hugh J. Grant, Mayor Byron Matteson, Mayor Pro Tempore Tony Petta, Councilman Barbara Pfennighausen, Councilwoman Dennis L. Evans, Councilman Seth Armstead, City Manager Ivan Hopkins, City Attorney Joe Kicak, City Engineer Myrna Erway, City Clerk ABSENT: None The meeting was opened with invocation by Pastor Dave Jacobs, Grand Terrace Christian Fellowship Church, followed by the Pledge of Allegiance, led by Councilwoman Pfennighausen. ITEM DELETED FROM THE AGENDA: Item 7B - Ordinance amending the Municipal Code providing foF the election of City Council members by districts and an elective Mayor. PROCLAMATIONS Mayor Grant presented the following Proclamations: (1) "Firefighter Appreciation Day" - May 31, 1985 (to be presented to the County at the Third Annual Firefighter Appreciation Banquet on May 31); (2) "Soil Stewardship Week" - May 12-19, 1985 (to be sent to the Riverside -Corona Resource Conservation District); (3) "Arts Awareness Month" - May 1985 (presented to Tom Williams, Executive Director, San Bernardino County Arts League). (4) "Senior Citizens' Month" - May 1985 (to be presented to the Grand Terrace Senior Citizens at their May 10 meeting). CERTIFICATE OF COMMENDATION - ED O'NEAL Mayor Grant read and presented a Certificate of Commendation to Ed O'Neal for outstanding service to the City. Page 1 - 5/9/85 CONSENT CALENDAR Item 3A, Check Register No. 050985, and Item 3D, April 25, 1985 Minutes, were removed from the Consent Calendar for discussion. CC-85-93 Motion by Councilman Evans, Second by Councilwoman Pfennighausen, ALL AYES, to approve the following Consent Calendar items: B. Ratify 5/9/85 CRA actions; C. Approve Minutes of April 11, 1985; E. Confirm dates and times set by CRA for Council FY 1985-86 Budget Study Sessions; F. Waive $150 Security Deposit for Friends of the Library to conduct meetings in the Civic Center Meeting Room; G. Waive $150 Security Deposit for Grand Terrace Community Soccer Club to conduct meetings in the Civic Center Meeting Room. CHECK REGISTER NO. 050985 & MINUTES OF 4/25/85 Following clarification of Warrant Nos. 13156 and 13143 and CC-85-94 recommended amendment to the April 25, 1985 Minutes, Motion by Councilman Evans, Second by Councilman Petta, ALL AYES, to approve Check Register No. 050985 as presented and the Minutes of April 25, 1985, with Item 3 of Councilman Evans' report on page 6 to read " "...that Staff be directed to request Caltrans to widen the Barton Road Bridge over the I-215 Freeway in the City of Grand Terrace." PUBLIC PARTICIPATION Dick Rollins, 22700 DeBerry, objected to noise from construction operations prior to 7:00 a.m. on Tract 9773 and recommended an ordinance prohibiting such operations. Tony Ramirez, 12708 Sanburg, representing the Grand Terrace Soccer Club, questioned whether Council was aware of the $5.00 per hour fee charged organizations to use the Community Meeting Room over and above the Security Deposit. Was advised the fee covers the cost of a staff member when the room is used after regular business hours. Mr. Ramirez recommended issuing keys to eliminate the need for a Staff member. Staff was directed to investigate this matter and provide a recommendation. Mayor Grant requested input from the Soccer Club's Board of Directors on this matter. Signs/Banners - Betty Bengle, Kiddie Carousal, 12030 Vivienda, Requested reconsideration of the requirement to remove her banner. Tom Schnieder, J & R Family Bicycle Center, opposed the sign and banner regulations and the $50.00 variance fee; felt enforcement is discriminatory against permanent businesses, since developer/real estate hand-held directional signs are displayed on weekends and are Page 2 - 5/9/85 not cited since no City personnel are on duty; felt businesses should be allowed to display banners on a temporary basis. Mayor Pro Tem Matteson noted the amendments to the sign ordinance were recommended and approved by the Chamber of Commerce. Councilman Evans felt the intent of the ordinance regarded permanent display of banners; recommended re-examining the ordinance to consider allowing temporary display of banners. Councilman Petta withdrew from discussion and action in this matter due to a potential conflict of interest. Councilwoman Pfennighausen voiced concern for what length of time is considered temporary; felt consideration should be given to special sale events; requested developers be notified hand-held signs are prohibited. Mayor Grant requested that Staff adjust its working schedule to enable weekend sign enforcement. Staff was directed to return this matter for further consideration as soon as possible. Barney Karger, 11668 Bernardo Way, felt hand-held signs are legal; felt Council should make some allowances if it expects to have a progressive City. Jim Rigley, 22605 De Soto Street, concurred with Council's action relative to the sign ordinance enforcement; recommended continued review of the ordinance for further improvement. Ken Rinderhagen, 12738 Wilmac, stated CCS is authorized and has removed many prohibited signs from utility poles and City property; concurred with enforcement of weekend illegal signs and unauthorized signs. Recess was called at 7:15 p.m. and reconvened at 7:35 p.m. with all members present. PARKS & RECREATION COMMITTEE The Minutes of April 1, 1985 were provided. HISTORICAL & CULTURAL ACTIVITIES COMMITTEE Mayor Grant advised formation of a separate Historical Committee was recommended at the previous meeting. Proposed responsibilities of that separate committee were provided. Councilwoman Pfennighausen stated she recommended separating the historical and cultural functions since the Committee has indicated a need to concentrate on historical functions this year and the cultural - activities have been a source of problems for the Committee. Recommended deleting the five -member limitation and allowing unlimited membership. Concurred with the responsibilities and purpose of the Page 3 - 5/9/85 proposed Historical Committee as presented. Councilman Evans concurred with unlimited membership and recommended deleting the requirement of each Councilmember appointing a member. Barbara Mathews, Chairperson, noting Councilman Evans questioned why the Committee waited so long to voice concern about the fair and parade, read a statement she had read at a Council meeting immediately after the Country Fair. Questioned Councilwoman Pfennighausen's interest in the committee at this time, the criticism and charges, and what evidence exists indicating the committee has had problems the past three years. Read the definition of "cultural;" doesn't feel the carnival fits that definition. Read the Committee's updated 1985 goals and questioned if other committees have printed updated goals. Stated considerable time has been spent clouding the issue and that the original problem still has not been addressed. Roy Nix, 12173 Country Club Lane, disagreed with dividing the committee. Felt the real issue involved is a small group of people that will use any means to gain control desired. Agreed the dissention within the Committee surfaced with the last Country Fair Parade; a minority representation requested Council advice and appealed support of a particular plan, which was denied in principal, but some ground rules were established. The ground rules were ignored and the group continued to do what they wanted. That same element is still supported by members or a member of Council that choose to plant seeds of disharmony and point a finger in some other direction. Cautioned Council to recognize this as a bigger issue which is a cancerous condition proceeding not just in this committee but in every area of representation of the City. Felt the present limitation of membership on all committees should be continued to discourage committees from becoming social gatherings. Councilwoman Pfennighausen recommended dividing the committee to resolve the problem of it being divided. Noted Mayor Pro Tem Matteson indicated he was aware of the parade rules but chose to ignore them. Denied having a sudden interest in the committee. Felt one committee should not control all historical and cultural pursuits within the City. Supported unlimited membership. Recommended subcommittees. Mayor Grant disagreed with individual Councilmembers appointing committee members. Supported not limiting membership to five members. Felt historical and cultural functions are compatible; opposed establishing a separate committee and dividing the committee just to resolve problems. Read a letter from Committee Member Ann Petta received this date, addressing her concerns relative to the committee, the fair and the newsletter, which is on file in the City Clerk's Office. Councilman Petta felt the fair and parade are not pertinent to the issue and not sure they are cultural in nature. Disagreed with dividing the committee, feeling dismantling the committee functions would be too restrictive, would make it insignificant, and would undermine the integrity of all committees. Supported continuing the Page 4 - 5/9/85 committee as presently established. Council initially established a five -member Committee and could consider increasing the membership. Council should provide guidelines, duties and responsibilities. Committees need assurance of stability, functions and cooperation and are owed a debt of gratitude. CC-85-95 Motion by Councilman Petta, Second by Mayor Grant, that Council not dismantle the dual functions of the Historical & Cultural Activities Committee. Councilwoman Pfennighausen noted the committee originally had seven members. Councilman Evans and Mayor Pro Tem Matteson indicated they would only support the Motion if there is no additional motion to remove Barbara Bayus from the Committee. Motion No. 85-95 carried, ALL AYES. BLUE MOUNTAIN WILDERNESS PARK COMMITTEE REPORT Chairperson Susan Crawford advised the Committee, Councilman Petta and Denis Kidd toured a 40-acre site which Mr. Kidd is considering donating to the City on April 27. Mr. Kidd's major concern is vandalism and policing the area. Captain Bradford, Councilman Petta, Mr. Kidd and she viewed the area on May 7 from a Sheriff's Department helicopter and discussed various ways to maintain the integrity of the mountain. Captain Bradford advised the Sheriff's Department, in addition to the helicopter, also has an equestrian division. A future meeting is scheduled with Mr. Kidd to resolve fees and other problems that may exist. Recommended naming the proposed park "Kidd Park" and the preserve "Blue Mountain Wildlife Preserve." CRIME PREVENTION COMMITTEE REPORT Chairperson Susan Crawford reported the following: (1) A vacancy exists on the Committee; (2) A third Town Meeting is scheduled for May 21. EMERGENCY OPERATIONS COMMITTEE REPORT Councilwoman Pfennighausen reported the Committee has been presented with notebooks on planning and are in the process of formulating first aid packages and emergency supplies. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE REPORT Jim Rigley, Interim Chairman, reported the Committee met May 17, with all members present and Terry Moore, San Bernardino County Economic Development, who plans to attend all meetings. The Committee is pursuing a hardware store and family restaurant in the City. Barney Karger advised the Committee of two facilities he proposes on Barton Road east of the new medical facility. The Committee is researching information derived from brochures regarding the economic development of various cities in order to plan a design. Jim Rigley was elected Chairman and Doug Erway Vice Chairman. Page 5 - 5/9/85 FIRE CHIEF REPORT City Manager Armstead advised the Fire Station personnel assisted in checking out the Civic Center equipment and facilities. CITY ENGINEER REPORT City Engineer Kicak: (1) Advised 27 inquiry letters were sent to residents in the area of Vista Grande and Grand Terrace Road who qualify for A-1 zoning to see if they wished their property rezoned from R-1 to A-1. The results will be reported at the next meeting. BRENTWOOD REALIGNMENT AT MT. VERNON (2) Advised the information requested by Council regarding realignment to extend Brentwood at the Canal/Mt. Vernon intersection will require more time to analyze, due to the complexity of the problem. Requested and received Council concurrence to take the project to the Planning Commission at its May 20 meeting for recommendations. Verda M. Hixson, 555 Country Club Road, San Bernardino, speaking on behalf of Col. Alexander, stated he questioned why he was not contacted regarding the proposed realignment since it would affect his property; questioned whether the City has considered a slight curve in Brentwood and purchase of the Alexander property, which would remove all complications. Al Trevino, 1015 Madison Place, Laguna Beach, felt signalization at the existing intersection of Canal Street and Mt. Vernon represents one of the better solutions, meeting all the criteria for site distance for clearance; felt all necessary information is available and did not see justification for delay. Barney Karger, 11668 Bernardo Way, felt realignment and signalization at Brentwood would irritate homeowners on Brentwood due to increased traffic. Recommended widening existing streets to handle increased traffic without traffic signals or realigning Brentwood. Jerry Hawkinson, Planning Commissioner, advised the Planning Commission's concern is the ultimate development of the entire area, not for one particular project. The Brentwood realignment was suggested to eliminate traffic stopping at the top of the hill. Recommended considering Mr. Karger's suggestion. Councilman Evans recommended the Planning Commission review the recent traffic engineering report, which identified the intersection of Mt. Vernon, Grand Terrace Road and Canal for corrective action to upgrade to eliminate traffic problems for the entire area as it develops. PARKING VIOLATION - GEORGE FISHER Finance Director Schwab advised that Mr. Fisher protested receipt of a commercial vehicle parking violation in a residential zone at the last Page 6 - 5/9/85 Council meeting. Staff research of the matter, as directed, revealed the deputy who cited Mr. Fisher was unaware the recently -adopted ordinance prohibiting commercial vehicle parking on residential streets was not in effect. That ticket has been voided. Mr. Fisher parks only the tractor portion of his rig in front of his home, which does not appear to cause problems; noted there is a question as to whether that exceeds the one -ton load capacity specified in the ordinance. Stated Council could consider amending the ordinance. Noted the City Manager has authority to grant parking waivers. George Fisher, 22808 Miriam Way, advised the tractor, although it is diesel and is licensed as a commercial vehicle, is not capable of hauling a load other than a trailer; no one has ever complained and it does not cause a hazard. Stated he doesn't want to move in order to park and protect his source of livelihood in front of his house. Mayor Pro Tem Matteson advised Council adopted the Ordinance as a result of complaints. Noted rules must be made to benefit the majority. Councilman Evans felt the intent of the Ordinance was to prevent the parking of combined tractor/trailer rigs. Motion by Councilman Evans, Second by Councilwoman Pfennighausen, to initiate an amendment to the Parking Ordinance to exclude the trailer portion and allow just the parking of a tractor. Councilman Petta felt the amendment could create confusion and result in a discriminatory ordinance; recommended further investigation by staff. Councilman Evans disagreed with delaying, noting Council could consider Staff recommendations and adopt or reject the amendment. Councilwoman Pfennighausen recommended clarifiying the intent of the ordinance relative to vehicle weight and/or load capacity. The Motion failed, 3-2, with Councilman Evans and Councilwoman Pfennighausen voting AYE. CITY ATTORNEY REPORT City Attorney Hopkins advised the proposed ordinance providing for election of Councilmembers by districts and an elective Mayor was deleted from this agenda since modifications are necessary. The four districts must be defined with legal descriptions and will require a population census to divide the districts equally. Certain political decisions are needed before completing the ordinance. This ordinance could preclude some Councilmembers from running for re-election in 1986. Noted the ordinance proponents indicated they would pursue the initiative process should Council fail to adopt the ordinance. Noted Council may prefer to make the decisions rather than the proponents. Following discussion, the City Attorney was requested to prepare a detailed memo regaring this matter for Council consideration at the next meeting. CC-85-96 Motion by Mayor Pro Tem Matteson, Second by Councilwoman Pfennighausen to take no further action on this matter. Councilwoman Pfennighausen Page 7 - 5/9/85 felt the City is too small for council districts and would be a costly process. Noted apportionment problems which occur at the State level. 0 Mayor Grant stated he could not support the Motion until he had reviewed the City Attorney's memo. Disagreed the City's size would affect the validity of a ward system. Felt it could resolve some problems which he feels exist. John Mathews, 11733 Eton Drive, stated the ordinance has been proposed to eliminate the bullet vote whereby some voters do not vote for all council offices on the ballot, which dilutes the value of the votes of those who do. It is not directed at any particular Councilmembers. Questioned and was advised the City cannot elect one councilmember a year since there is no legal provision for this in a general law city. Jim Rigley, 22605 DeSoto, supported the present system, felt the cost would be excessive, and the City is too small. Ken Rinderhagen, 12738 Wilmac, opposed expending City funds on the proposed ordinance. Roy Nix, 12173 Country Club Lane, disagreed the cost would be excessive to process the ordinance. Felt making decisions on controversial issues for the City would be difficult if they pertain to an area in the immediate area of three councilmembers' residences. There is more potential for this type of situation to exist in a smaller city. Has heard councilmembers voice concern for their homes relative to development of the freeway area. Recommended the ward system to allow equal representation from each area as a precaution against emotionalism entering into decisions relating to controversial developments. Felt the one-man, one -vote system is more fair. Councilman Evans, with Mayor Pro Tem Matteson concurring, disagreed with the implication that three councilmembers cannot govern the community fairly because they reside in one area. Noted past representation in the northeast quadrant during the last six years didn't seem to create a problem. Mr. Nix apologized for any implication that he was targeting the current Council. Felt it would be very difficult for two or more councilmembers residing in an affected area to be objective when there is pressure from residents in that area ; representation from different areas could ensure a more objective evaluation of controversial issues. Motion No. CC-85-96 carried 3-2, with Mayor Grant and Councilman Petta voting NOE. Recessed at 10:05 p.m. and reconvened at 10:18 p.m. with all present. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF GRAND TERRACE, CALIFORNIA, AMENDING CHAPTER 2.16 OF THE GRAND TERRACE MUNICIPAL CODE DEALING WITH THE CITY OF GRAND TERRACE PLANNING COMMISSION (First Reading) 0 Page 8 - 5/9/85 City Attorney Hopkins advised the proposed ordinance will reduce the Planning Commission to five members, with each Commissioner to be nominated by and serve concurrent terms with each individual Councilmember, as directed by Council. Vern Andress, Planning Commissioner, felt the present process creates a worthwhile balance of opposing opinions; the proposed ordinance would eliminate that balance by linking each Commissioner to a Councilmember and a totally new Commission could be harmful to the City. Recommended two separate entities that can independently convey their ideas in a manner that will benefit the community. Jerry Hawkinson, Planning Commissioner, concurred with Commissioner Andress. Did not object to reducing the number of Commissioners, but recommended reducing by attrition. Noted Planning Director Kicak has indicated he has had no problem working with nine Commissioners. Did not feel a quorum has been a problem. Larry Halstead, Grand Terrace Area Chamber of Commerce Vice President, advised the Chamber's Board of Directors unanimously supported the proposed Ordinance. Mayor Grant advised he received a letter from Chamber President Doug Erway indicating the Chamber recommends reduction of the Planning Commission to five members and the benefits, but did not address the method of appointing the Commissioners. Concurred with Commissioners Andress and Hawkinson and recommended not supporting the method of Council appointments. Felt the Commission should remain in its present status. Councilman Evans stated his motion was to prepare an ordinance whereby each Councilmember would appoint, not nominate, a member of the Commission. The appointments should not be subject to approval as written in the proposed Ordinance. Each Commissioner may be removed at the discretion of the Councilmember anytime with or without cause, and will not serve at the pleasure of Council. Felt the Planning Commission is a political body, not just advisory, and has handled many issues nonprofessionally. Stated the Planning Director has advised him he felt five Commissioners is ideal and would reduce problems he has had. Recommended pursuing a master plan for the City that would bring control to prevent potential problems. Felt independent thinking is good, but causes problems. Recommended training of all Planning Commissioners. Felt the only alternative to this Ordinance would be an elected, paid commission. Mayor Pro Tem Matteson recommended seven commissioners, noting the City of Rialto is the only surrounding city with five commissioners. Councilwoman Pfennighausen felt the number of commissioners in surrounding cities coincides with the number of councilmembers, which was the basis for five commissioners. Felt the Chairman has represented the Planning Commission unprofessionally, that the Commission is not taking Council direction, and is jeopardizing the Page 9 - 5/9/85 City legally. Was advised by the City Attorney of certain cities having Commissioners appointed and terms running concurrently with the councilmember. For the record, "I do not consider the members of this Planning Commission gutless SOB's; that's what you were called the other night when you didn't vote the way an individual wanted you to vote, and I apologize for that person; you had a difficult decision to make; I didn't agree with it - but I don't consider you gutless those things." City Attorney Hopkins read the title of the Ordinance. Councilman Petta felt the Planning Commission has worked well, should reflect independent thinking, and is not wrong if its opinion is different. CC-85-97A Motion by Councilman Petta, Second by Mayor Grant, that the present Planning Commission be continued with nine members. CC-85-97B Motion by Mayor Pro Tem Matteson, Second by Councilman Petta, to amend Motion No. CC-85-97A to establish a seven -member Commission through attrition. CC-85-97C Motion by Mayor Pro Tem Matteson, Second by Mayor Grant, to amend amended Motion No. CC-85-97B that Council review the present Commissioners and reduce the number to seven immediately, carried 4-1, with Councilman Petta voting NOE. Motion No. CC-85-97B, as amended to reduce the number to seven immediately, carried 3-2, with Councilman Evans and Councilwoman Pfennighausen voting NOE. CC-85-98 Motion by Mayor Pro Tem Matteson, second by Councilwoman Pfennighausen, ALL AYES, to waive full reading of the ordinance. City Attorney Hopkins advised the ordinance as amended will now reflect seven members, with three terms expiring 6-14-86 and four terms expiring 6-14-88. In discussion it was clarified that the current method of selecting Commissioners and serving at the pleasure of Council will continue. Motion carried 3-2, with Councilwoman Pfennighausen and Councilman Evans voting NOE. (A review of the proceedings revealed no motion was made to approve first reading of the ordinance as amended. Refer to 5-13-85 Minutes. CITY MANAGER REPORT ,]I City Manager Armstead advised he would be meeting with Group W Cable the next day regarding the franchise. CITY COUNCIL REPORTS Councilman Evans: Questioned the City Engineer's justification in selecting the south side of Grand Terrace Road, east of Mt. Vernon, Page 10 - 5/9/85 r� for a proposed sidewalk using SB 821, Article 3, (TDA funds) of $12,000, with the City's match to be $4,000. Felt primary concentration is needed on Barton Road for widening and improvements including sidewalks. Also feels sidewalks are needed on the east side of Michigan between Barton Road and DeBerry. City Engineer Kicak stated Staff attempts to select projects that meet the criteria of SANBAG guidelines. To improve Barton Road between Canal and Vivienda would cost approximately $200,000, which would include construction of curbs, gutters, paving, sidewalks, but would not include right -of way acquisition. Responding to Councilman Matteson, advised if the City does the project, it has a franchise agreement which requires the utility company to relocate utilities within the right-of-way unless the utility company has prior rights. If a private developer were required to relocate the utilities as a condition of approval of a project, the developer would pay the cost. The project on Michigan has not been considered because the installation of improvements under SB 821 Article 3 requires those improvements to be installed at the master -planned Circulation Element ultimate location. Right-of-way is presently insufficient. Following adoption of the Circulation Element, Council questioned whether or not the ultimate width of Michigan should be constructed in accordance with that master planned width. Sidewalk construction on Michigan was proposed to Council sometime ago. One of the major problems at that time was right-of-way and sidewalk location. There was citizen opposition to dedicating the necessary right-of-way. Mayor Grant and Councilwoman Pfennighausen felt there was more need for sidewalks on Michigan because of more pedestrian traffic to that elementary school. Councilman Petta felt both were important. Felt it would be expensive to acquire the necessary right -of way on Michigan and noted right-of-way is not needed on Grand Terrace Road. Recommended keeping the present project and trying to get other funds to also do the project on Michigan. CC-85-99 Motion by Councilman Evans, Second by Councilwoman Pfennighausen, to direct Staff to investigate utilization of FY 1985-86 SB 821 Article 3 funding for Michigan as well as Barton Road. The intent was clarified as both sides of the streets. Mayor Pro Tem Matteson declared a potential conflict of interest and withdrew from action on this matter. The Motion carried, 3-1-1, with Councilman Petta voting NOE and Mayor Pro Tem Matteson abstaining. Councilwoman Pfenni hausen: (1) The broken pipeline at Mt. Vernon and DeBerry causing residents to be without water should encourage awareness of the need to prepare for disasters; (2) Responding to implication that Council receives a large salary, advised Councilmembers receive $150 a month; (3) Requested a copy of Mrs. Petta's letter to Mayor Grant or a verbatim transcript. Page 11 - 5/9/85 Mayor Pro Tem Matteson: (1) Requested Council support proposed Deep Pocket legislation; ) Has received numerous complaints about Riverside Highland Water Company; questioned what could be done. Councilman Petta advised the Water Company Board of Directors is aware and concerned about the problem; tried to expedite correction; will soon be receiving funds and a study is being prepared to upgrade the waterlines; (3) Encouraged Council attendance at Colton and Grand Terrace Chamber Joint Mixer on May 15 and the Chamber Auction Extravaganza on May 10. Mayor Grant: (1) Commended Staff efforts to reduce use of electric energy; 2 Attended Omnitrans and SANBAG meetings on May 8; (3) Read a letter from Dean Reynolds regarding a depressed manhole cover in the area of Barton Road and Palm; City Engineer Kicak advised the matter is being taken care of; (4) Questioned the status of the matter on the Service Station at the Michigan/Barton Road intersection. Was advised it will be on the next meeting agenda.(5) Encouraged citizen participation at meetings, but will not allow testimony to continue which appears to hurt others. Closed Session - The meeting recessed to a Closed Session at 11:50 p.m., with the City Manager, the City Attorney and City Engineer in attendance. Reconvene - The regular meeting reconvened at 12:30 a.m. with all members present. Mayor Grant advised the Planning Director's position was discussed; no formal decisions were made; the majority consensus was toward maintaining a full-time, in-house Planning Department, rather than contracting. Adjourn - The regular meeting adjourned at 12:32 a.m. to an adjourned reguar meeting to be held May 13, 1985 at 5:30 p.m., in the Council Chambers to conduct FY 1985-86 Budget Sessions. Respectfully submitted, i APPROVED: Mayo Page 12 - 5/9/85