07/08/1985CITY OF GRAND TERRACE
COUNCIL MINUTES
ADJOURNED JOINT REGULAR MEETING - JULY 8, 1985
An adjourned joint regular meeting of the City Council and the Planning Commission
of the City of Grand Terrace was called to order in the Council Chambers, Grand
Terrace Civic Center, 22795 Barton Road, Grand Terrace, California, on July 8,
1985, at 5:36 p.m.
PRESENT: Hugh J. Grant, Mayor
Byron Matteson, Mayor Pro Tempore
Tony Petta, Councilman
Barbara Pfennighausen, Councilwoman
Dennis L. Evans, Councilman
Norman Caouette, Chairman
Jerry Hawkinson, Vice Chairman
Sanford Collins, Commissioner
Ray Munson, Commissioner
John McDowell, Commissioner
Gerald Cole, Commissioner (Arrived at 5:40 p.m.)
Seth Armstead, City Manager
Ivan Hopkins, City Attorney
Joe Kicak, Planning Director
Myrna Erway, City Clerk
ABSENT: Vern Andress, Commissioner
William DeBenedet, Commissioner
The meeting was opened with the Pledge of Allegiance, led by Mayor Pro Tem
Matteson.
Mayor Grant stated this meeting was requested by the Planning
Commission. Chairman Caouette advised the purpose for requesting the
meeting was to discuss development of the R-3 area, the ability of
local infrastructure to handle higher levels of development, the
levels that will be necessary for the development proposed, and
funding for this type of development. The Commission needs to know
the limitations and potentials to make better decisions and establish
better coordination between the two agencies.
Commissioner Collins stated the Planning Commission needs guidelines
on Council expectations relative to development of the R-3 area; noted
Council has disapproved projects the Commission has approved and has
approved projects the Commission has disapproved. The Commission
feels some type of overlay is needed to fund the necessary
improvements in the R-3 area between Mt. Vernon, Canal and Barton
Road. The Commission is questioning the placement and number of Gage
Canal Crossings that will be available, how the area will be improved
and how the improvements will be made.
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Commissioner McDowell recommended establishing the number of units per
acre for multiple developments. Mayor Grant, with Councilman Petta
concurring, felt the Commission should be given latitude in decisions,
with minimum guidelines. Councilman Petta felt differences of opinion
are good; noted an appeal process is provided and fees are paid by
each builder. Commissioner Hawkinson stated his primary concern is
ensuring the development of this area will not be a financial burden
to the City, since unusual costs are involved, such as title fees,
Gage Canal access, rights -of -way and a section of Canal Street;
recommended an assessment district for this purpose.
Councilwoman Pfennighausen felt it is impossible to expect the
developers to pay development costs and provide quality construction
if limited to 12 units per acre. Councilman Evans stated he views the
development of Areas 10, 11 and 12 as a key development which will
impact the entire community and will compliment commercial
development. Envisions a well -planned commercial development on
Barton Road that will compliment development of that area and the
City. Recommended estabishing specific direction to ensure
coordination between the agencies on development. Recommended that Al
Trevino present the master plan he has prepared so input can be
provided by both agencies.
Mayor Grant stated the area south of Barton Road and west of Michigan
is also being considered for commercial development; the opinion on
commercially developing Barton Road is not unanimous.
MASTER PLAN - AREAS 10, 11, 12
Al Trevino displayed several master plan concepts for Areas 10, 11 and
12, incorporating recreation areas, a bridle path, a bicycle path,
open space areas and swimming and tennis clubs which would be shared
by the entire community. Supported a master -planned project versus
small individual projects. Felt the proposed master plan would lend
character to the area, would link the housing community to the
commercial area, would provide recreational facilities for the
community and would be competitive with surrounding cities.
Mr. Trevino outlined possible alternatives to fund public improvements
for the project such as the Community Redevelopment Agency or an
assessment district, which is not preferable. Meetings have been
held with some of the property owners to consider development
possibilities such -as one developer acquiring all the land or changing
the boundaries to accommodate the overall project. Some property may
have to be purchased to implement the project. Requested that the City
determine whether it wants to undertake the overall planning, use the
redevelopment authority, and allow the fees to be used for development
of that area. If the City makes that commitment, the next step is up
to the landowners.
Relative to Gage Canal access, City Attorney Hopkins advised Staff was
directed to acquire five crossings, with the exact number and
placement to be determined. Staff is also working on proceedings to
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acquire a
rights -of
portion of Canal Street which is privately owned, additional
-way to widen Canal Street, and the use of the Gage Canal
property
for bicycle and jogging paths and landscaping.
The cost
cannot be
determined at this time, but should be in the
thousands, not
millions.
Finalization of acquiring possession of the
property could
take five
more months.
LEASE OF
PARK PROPERTY FROM SCE
Sue Noreen, SCE Area Manager, advised SCE will lease 10 acres on
Pico to the City for five years, renewable at the expiration of five
years, at $100 per acre per year. SCE would have the option of
terminating the lease with 30-day notice if needed for development;
felt the property would never be needed by SCE. A letter has been
mailed to the City Manager outlining conditions necessitated by SCE
transmission right-of-way through the property. SCE is requesting a
development plan for the 10 acres which will be presented to the SCE
Real Properties Department for final approval.
Marygold Farms, the present tenant, is willing to relinquish its
lease, but the City will be required to pay for crop loss since the
present crop will not mature until January 1987. Under those
circumstances, the City may want to consider five acres initially.
Sue Noreen stated SCE received two requests relative to the 40 acres
r fronting on Pico. One request was consideration of selling the land
and the other was regarding the possibility of developing parks. SCE
then initiated a study of development plans for that property, and
determined the property will probably never be for sale.
Responding to Councilman Evans, stated SCE acreage on Van Buren was
not considered; access is not as good as Pico, but could possibly
be negotiated. Councilman Evans recommended considering a potential
school site and relocation of Grand Terrace Elementary to the
southwestern area of the City.
Mayor Pro Tem Matteson stated he has investigated and found the cost
to move the school site prohibitive. Recommended allowing time for
individual inspection of potential SCE sites prior to further
consideration. Responding to Councilman Evans, Planning Director
Kicak advised the southwestern area is the only area of the City in
which Specific Plans have not been filed. Councilwoman Pfennighausen
felt the present school site is unsuitable; the southwestern area is
more populated and is a safer location. Felt placing a school site
adjacent to a park -site would be beneficial, providing joint -use of
the facilities, and that a large corporation would be willing to pay
the relocation costs of a school if it was commercially viable.
Recessed at 7:00 P.M. and reconvened at 7:15 P.M. with all present.
SCHOOL IMPACTION
Mr. Danny Carrasco, Colton Joint Unified School District, distributed
a validation report on the school district's school impaction report
prepared by consultant D.J. King for the City of Colton. Advised
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School district representatives met with City Manager Armstead today
regarding the district's impaction report which requests mitigation by
the cities within the school district by establishing builder's fees
on future developments. Outlined the basis used and action taken by
the Colton City Council, as indicated in the report. The school
district estimates an increase in student population from 10,720 to
15,000 in the next five years.
In response to Council questions, Mr. Carrasco advised the 6th graders
from the Cooley Ranch Area, and 150 students from Wilson are bussed to
Terrace Hills Jr. High; the remaining students are from Grand
Terrace. Next year the 6th graders will remain at Wilson, but will
attend Terrace Hills Jr. High as 7th graders. Sixteen portables have
been located in Grand Terrace. The school district estimated a .59
student generation factor for every development within the City.
Development fees imposed for impaction would be utilitized in the
Grand Terrace schools and at Colton High only.
Councilwoman Pfennighausen stated Mr. Jacobsen responded to the City's
request for information relative to impaction and whether the district
had established a potential site in the City for future expansion by
indicating in a letter that enrollment is somewhat small and there is
potentially no need for expansion. Recommended consideration at a
future Council Meeting due to conflicting information between that
letter and the impaction report.
Councilman Petta disagreed with charging builders fees, feeling the
cost of education should be spread equally. Recommended delaying a
decision to see the amount of funding that will be generated by the 0
lottery since it was to benefit the schools. Mayor Pro Tem Matteson
supported builder's fees if necessary; noted lottery funds cannot be
used for capital improvements.
Commissioner Collins left the meeting at 7:45 P.M.
Barney Karger, 11668 Bernardo Way, stated Colton Joint Unified School
District has a very low national scholastic rating. Recommended the
City accumulate the funding rather than giving it to Colton Joint
Unified School district and forming a committee to consider the City
establishing its own school district.
MASTER PLAN - AREAS 10, 11, 12
Mr. Trevino requested joint agreement on the following items:
(1) It is beneficial to master -plan the entire area.
(2) The schematic plan proposed is acceptable for implementation.
(3) Establish a funding method through the CRA or an assessment
district to improve all public facilities surrounding the
project, such as street improvements, signalization and park.
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(4) Allowing a greater percentage of the capital improvement
development fund fees that would be generated from the project to
be credited to the project for developing open space areas,
landscaping, jogging and bicycle trails, etc.
(5) Strengthening marketing of the project by including information
on the project relative to housing opportunities in City
brochures.
(6) Conceptually agree that a master plan is preferred over separate
development projects, and that the City will contribute to make
the plan work. The contributions the developers will make will
be to engineer the plan, work out land assembly, and hopefully
immediately start development of the first phase.
(7) Consider fresh, innovative approaches to planning criteria and
conditions if adjustments are needed, such as setbacks.
Mr. Trevino requested a decision on whether or not to proceed with the
overall master plan within the next two weeks, since time is of
critical concern.
City Attorney Hopkins advised the project cannot be legally approved
in two weeks. If both agencies indicate conceptual approval and a
willingness to proceed, the legal process would begin through the
Planning Commission and Council and would take longer than two weeks.
{ Councilman Evans recommended that both agencies determine if this is a
viable project, that Mr. Trevino meet with Staff regarding the
percentage of development fees needed for public improvements and to
be retained by the City and provide a report to Council in two weeks
for further consideration.
Planning Director Kicak advised alternatives can be evaluated and
information provided if agreed density is known to enable establishing
the number of units which will determine the amount of revenue to be
generated for capital iprovement fund fees. Noted only a small
percentage of the sewer fund fees remain in the city, due to certain
obligations; some capital improvement funds are legally restricted.
Mr. Trevino stated he is trying to keep the density at 15.75 on a
gross acreage basis as approved. Requested a letter of intent. Mayor
Pro Tem Matteson stated 12.75 units plus a bonus of 3 per acre for
senior citizens should be reflected for the entire project.
Mr. Kahlon, USA Properties, requested a land use plan establishing
density. City Attorney Hopkins advised conceptual approval can be
given on the items requested by Mr. Trevino, but not on a land use
plan establishing density, as requested by Mr. Kahlon.
CC-85-219 Motion by Mayor Pro Tem Matteson, Second by Councilman Petta, to
support the plan proposed by Mr. Trevino, with the exception of
allowing the use of a percentage of the capital improvement
development fees.
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Chairman Caouette felt conceptual approval of the project is premature
since there are unresolved problems on right-of-way, Gage Canal, and
the traffic studies which indicate that development is predicated on
providing four lanes on Mt. Vernon and the hill, getting two traffic
signals, etc. The Planning Commission has been unable to settle basic
density issues due to these unresolved problems. Indicated concern
about Mr. Trevino's request for new approaches to setbacks.
Mayor Pro Tem Matteson advised the proposed action is only approving
the concept; the project would still be required to follow normal
processing through the Planning Commission and Council.
Commissioner Cole voiced total agreement conceptually with the
proposed approach. Felt master planning the entire area will provide
the opportunity to study and resolve problems on one specific plan to
develop the total area vs separate projects.
Barney Karger, 11668 Bernardo Way, concurred with the proposed plan.
Estimated that area is currently costing the developers approximately
$30,000 a month, which will be charged to the project and could result
in lower -priced building. Noted the tennis courts and swim club are
special items which can be provided if cooperation is provided by the
City; funds to construct the park, jogging trail and baseball diamond
could be taken from park development fees; the drainage canal could
come from storm drain fees; the funds would be used for facilities
available to the entire community, and would not be used for
construction within the project.
PCM-85-68 Motion by Commissioner Cole, Second by Chairman Caouette to accept 0
conceptually the plan as presented by Mr. Trevino with the exception
of allowing the use of a percentage of the capital improvement
development fees.
Chairman Caouette suggested that the Planning Commission only address
the setback condition as outlined by Mr. Trevino since the other items
would be addressed by Council. Commissioner Cole stated he has no
problem with setbacks other than those around the perimeter of the
entire project.
Motion No. PCM-85-68 carried 4-1, with Commissioners Caouette, Cole,
Hawkinson and McDowell voting AYE, and Commissioner Munson voting NOE.
Mr. Trevino requested consideration of limiting the density of 12.75
plus a bonus of 3 units per acre for senior citizens to two years,
from an investment standpoint; during that period the matter could be
considered further and a recommendation proposed. Felt this is
acceptable at this time. Referencing Commissioner Munson's NOE vote,
voiced a desire for unanimous support and to provide further
clarification to eliminate dissension. Commissioner Munson stated he
had the impression the recreational facilities would be closed to the
public. Mr. Trevino stated the tennis and swimming clubs would be
private clubs by membership, with access to club members and also to
project residents, possibly at a reduced rate. The jogging trail,
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park and baseball diamond will be outside the development and will be
available to the general public. Commissioner Munson questioned if
the City would be expected to contribute funds to build the
recreational facilities. Mr. Trevino stated he is requesting reduced
fees for the project.
Motion No. CC-85-219 carried, ALL AYES.
Commissioner Munson voiced concern for improvement of Mt. Vernon and
the hill down to Washington. Mayor Grant stated Caltrans has made it
clear it will become involved if traffic warrants action to be taken;
did not feel Colton would consider the hill of primary concern due to
its location.
Mayor Pro Tem Matteson stated the Planning Commission requested this
meeting to get direction from Council; felt the Commission should have
its own opinions and make its own decisions based on its knowledge;
noted the appeal process is available to resolve differences of
opinion.
Councilman Evans stated discussion was held with the City Attorney
regarding conducting an all day mandatory seminar on a weekend for the
Planning Commission and Council for in-service training on planning,
development, and the City's developmental laws. Requested concurrence
from the Planning Commission to establish a date. Commissioner
McDowell voiced concurrence. Mayor Pro Tem Matteson recommended
placing the matter on the next Planning Commission Agenda for
r consideration.
ADJOURN
CC-85-220 Motion by Mayor Pro Tem Matteson, Second by Councilman Evans, ALL
AYES, to adjourn the Joint Adjourned Regular Meeting at 9:07 P.M.
PCM-85-69 Motion by Commissioner McDowell, Second by Chairman Caouette, ALL AYES
by all present to adjourn the Joint Adjourned Regular Meeting at 9:07
P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
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