11/29/1984CITY OF GRAND TERRACE
COUNCIL MINUTES
REGULAR MEETING - NOVEMBER 29, 1984
A regular meeting of the City Council of the City of Grand Terrace was called to
order at the Terrace View Elementary School, 22731 Grand Terrace Road, Grand
Terrace, California, on November 29, 1984, at 7:35 p.m.
PRESENT: Hugh J. Grant, Mayor
Byron Matteson, Mayor Pro Tempore
Tony Petta, Councilman
Barbara Pfennighausen, Councilwoman
Dennis L. Evans, Councilman
Seth Armstead, City Manager
John Harper, City Attorney
Joe Kicak, City Engineer
Myrna Erway, City Clerk
ABSENT: None
The meeting was opened with invocation by Pastor Ray Williams, Grand View Baptist
Church, followed by the Pledge of Allegiance, led by Seth Armstead.
PRESENTATION TO JIM RIGLEY
Mayor Grant presented a plaque to Jim Rigley for outstanding service
to the City, serving as a Council Member since April, 1980. Mr.
Rigley stated he had enjoyed and would miss serving on the City
Council and getting involved with the community.
CERTIFICATE OF COMMENDATION - TOASTMASTERS
Mayor Grant read and presented a Certificate of Commendation to Daniel
Purinton, President, Grand Terrace Toastmasters Club, in recognition
of being selected as the outstanding club in the Founders District of
Toastmasters International.
Recess was called at 7:42 p.m. and reconvened at 8:32 p.m. with all
meml—ers present.
HISTORICAL & CULTURAL ACTIVITIES COMMITTEE
CC-84-298 Motion by Councilwoman Pfennighausen, Second by Mayor Grant, ALL AYES
to appoint Viola Gratson to fill the unexpired term of Art Thiede, to
expire June 30, 1986.
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ITEM ADDED TO AGENDA
9B - Authorize City Clerk to testify at FPPC Hearing in Sacramento.
RESOLUTION NO. 84-38 - A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF
GRAND-TERRACE,A, UPPORTING THE "COMMUNITY ANTI -DRUG BATTLE LINKED
TO EDUCATION" PROJECT.
CC-84-299 Motion by Councilwoman Pfennighausen, Second by Mayor Pro Tem
Matteson, ALL AYES to adopt Resolution No. 84-38.
ZONING REHEARING REQUEST - USA PROPERTIES/MCMILLIN DEVELOPMENT
Planning Director Kicak advised a letter requesting a rehearing on
this matter was received from the legal firm of Cox, Castle &
Nicholson, representing USA Properties and McMillin Development;
requested Staff direction. Attorney Harper advised the inconsistency
between the General Plan and the existing zoning must be resolved; the
matter being addressed is zoning, not any particular project; any
specific project and density is a separate issue.
Mayor Pro Tem Matteson voiced opposition to a rehearing; felt Council
should resolve without another public hearing. Barney Karger, 11668
Bernardo Way, recommended approval of R-3 zoning to avoid legal
problems; noted any project approval would be the responsibility of
the Planning Commission.
CC-84-300 Motion by Councilman Petta, Second by Councilman Evans, to approve a
rehearing of certain zoning action on properties owned by USA
Properties and McMillin Development carried 4-1, with Mayor Pro Tem
Matteson voting NOE.
TRANSITION ZONE BETWEEN R-1 and A-1 - AREA 26
Planning Director Kicak advised Council directed Staff to provide a
transition zone between R-1 and A-1 in Area 26; requested
clarification as to whether Council intended the transition in Areas
26A and 26B-1, or only in Area 26B-1, since Area 26A has a 60-foot
wide Edison easement which could provide a buffer zone.
Barney Karger, 11668 Bernardo Way, stated the Edison easement is on
his property; wants his and all properties in that area to be allowed
to keep horses and rural atmosphere; recommended having this area
reviewed by the Planning Commission to design that area accordingly;
noted there has been discussion about Blue Mountain being
undevelopable; feels there will be houses on top in ten years. Mr.
Kicak stated the present zoning ordinance allows animals in A-1 zoning
where minimum lot size is one acre; under the proposal for 20,000 sq.
foot lots, in the present zoning ordinance animals would not be
permitted. Denis Kidd, 22874 Pico, felt there was a
misunderstanding, and that the overlay did not apply to his area.
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Susan Crawford, 22721 Minona Drive, stated she owns property on Blue
Mountain Court in an area of one to two acre lots which permits
horses; requested and understood the overlay was going to provide for
a minimum of half -acre lots adjacent to that area, with a gradual
increase in lot sizes starting to the west, going east, starting on
the north and going south, to maintain the integrity of the area.
Mr. Kicak stated whatever action Council takes will not affect the
property to the west and south of the Blue Mountain Court properties.
CC-84-301 Motion by Councilman Petta, Second by Mayor Pro Tem Matteson, ALL AYES
to eliminate the northerly portion of the buffer zone. Mr. Kicak
stated, for purposes of clarification, that a 200-foot overlay strip
was approved; the question was what portion of the area should be
considered; the area and alternatives to be considered is as outlined
in the Planning Commission packets for the December 3 meeting.
SIDEWALK POLICY
Planning Director Kicak stated Council has, on an individual basis,
modified the 11 1/2 foot sidewalk standards for improvements within a
public right of way, as previously adopted; Barton Road has sidewalks
of varying widths, with an 8-foot meandering sidewalk in front of
Greg's Market and the Civic Center; Council has approved a meandering
sidewalk on Barton Road between Grand Terrace Road and Arliss; based
on previous Council action, requested a meandering sidewalk for a
recently -approved medical facility to be constructed on the northerly
side of Barton Road, easterly of Vivienda; the developers are
requesting permission to install a 6-foot sidewalk adjacent to the
curb; requested clarification of Council policy relative to the width,
location and alignment of the sidewalks within the commercial areas of
Barton Road.
Ron Davis, 25455 Barton Road, Loma Linda, representing the LLU Medical
Group, owner/developer of subject property, requested approval to
install a 7-foot sidewalk adjacent to the curb to eliminate the need
to redesign and add a wall at extensive cost.
Councilwoman Pfennighausen preferred meandering sidewalks for
aesthetics; Mayor Pro Tem Matteson preferred larger sidewalks adjacent
to the curbs for cleanliness and ease of maintenance.
CC-84-302 Motion by Councilman Petta, Second by Councilwoman Pfennighausen, to
approve a 6-foot sidewalk adjacent to the curb for the medical
facility project. Responding to Councilwoman Pfennighausen's
question, Mr. Kicak stated a meandering sidewalk is planned on Barton
Road between Grand Terrace Road and Arliss, in order to accommodate
the existing palm trees. Motion No. CC-84-302 carried, ALL AYES.
CIVIC CENTER CONSTRUCTION
Architect's Field Report No. 41 was provided. City Manager Armstead
I reported the following: (1) Provided a recap of change orders to
�J Council; (2) preliminary walk-thru is scheduled for December 14, with
move -in anticipated between December 21 and January 1.
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MINUTES (11-8-84) (11-20-84)
CC-84-303 Motion by Councilwoman Pfennighausen, Second by Councilman Petta, to
approve the Minutes of November 8, 1984 as presented carried 3-2, with
Mayor Pro Tem Matteson and Councilman Evans abstaining.
CC-84-304 Motion by Councilwoman Pfennighausen, Second by Councilman Evans, ALL
AYES to approve the Minutes of November 20, 1984 as presented.
CONSENT CALENDAR
CC-84-305 Motion by Councilwoman Pfennighausen, Second by Councilman Evans, ALL
AYES to approve the following Consent Calendar Items:
A. Approval of Check Register No. 112984;
B. Ratify CRA Actions of 11-29-84;
C. Authorize execution by Mayor & Recordation by City Clerk -Notice of
Completion -Community Center Parking Lot Project -Fisher's Grading &
Excavation (GTC84-10);
D. Approve & authorize Mayor to execute amended Traffice Engineering
Services Contract with San Bernardino County (GTC84-25);
E. Authorize release of Street Maintenance Bond No. OC-300514 for
$3,200-Tract 9741-Pacesetter Homes, Inc.;
F. Accept $500 Street Cut Bond No. U-50 85 09 & authorize release of
$500 cash deposit to El -Co Contractors, Inc.; and
G. Authorize bid request for Civic Center Complex Janitorial Services
(GTB 84-23).
PUBLIC PARTICIPATION
Ernie Zampese, 11963 Honey Hill Drive, described the slant and flow of
irrigation water on his orange grove adjacent to the park; stated the
City had anticipated a drainage problem, so installed an 8-inch pipe
when the park was built, which is insufficient to carry the water;
recommended raising the berm two feet to confine the water; indicated
the other temporary solution would be to divert the water to Cardinal
if Council approves; feels it is not his problem.
City Engineer Kicak clarified that Mr. Zampese is stating that as long
as he irrigates, there will be deposits at the northwest corner of his
orange grove, which is the major problem area; no matter what the City
does to improve the drainage ditch, the grades between the northwest
corner of the orange grove and the inlet structure in the park are so
flat that the velocity of that water is insufficient to carry the silt
and there will be deposits somewhere between the orange grove and the
inlet structure. The other alternative referenced by Mr. Zampese is
to put the water into the public right of way on Cardinal rather than
through the park. Noted there was a similar situation on DeBerry
Street prior to development of the tracts by Griffin Homes; the City
built a debris basin to pick up the runoff and to let the mud, silt
and debris settle out, which then allowed the clean water to flow out
into the public right of way on DeBerry.
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Mayor Pro Tem Matteson disagreed with diverting the water to Cardinal;
stated the culvert at the end of DeBerry would take the water;
questioned if the problem couldn't be solved by diverting the water
into the school yard asphalt drainage ditch if that ditch were
continued on over to DeBerry.
Councilwoman Pfennighausen stated legally the grove owner is
responsible for agricultural water; disagreed with building up the
berm; a solution was to install a large pipe for $9,000; has no
objection to the pipe, but not at City expense.
Attorney Harper advised no property owner has the right to flood
neighboring properties with unnatural water. Councilman Petta stated
the park property formerly was an orange grove; all orange groves were
irrigated at the same time and were designed so the water would flow
from one grove to another, leading to DeBerry; when the City built the
park, was aware of the drainage problem, so installed an 8-inch pipe
to carry the water to DeBerry, which didn't work; the property owner
is now being advised to put the water elsewhere; requested Attorney
Harper to address this problem. Attorney Harper stated this is a
question of what is equitable by the City and what is legal; legally
it is Mr. Zampese's problem. Advised in theory all Mr. Zampese is
required to do is take care of the water any way that is reasonable;
if diverting the water to Cardinal is reasonable, Council permission
is not legally required.
Barney Karger, 11668 Bernardo Way, stated he accepts water from the
properties above him onto his grove; feels it will be his
responsibility to accept and divert the water from the orange grove
above down to the street when the land use changes to houses, because
the property owner above has acquired the right through use.
Motion by Councilman Petta to authorize Mr. Zampese to divert the
water onto Cardinal died for lack of a second.
Councilman Petta stated he walked the park property two weeks ago when
there was no irrigation water and no rain; the grass was soggy due to
water accumulating from the park sprinklers on a daily basis; feels
there will always be a problem in that area even when the adjacent
grove is developed from the park sprinklers that continually pour
water onto that low spot, and that a permanent solution is required.
CC-84-306 Motion by Councilman Petta, Second by Mayor Pro Tem Matteson, that the
City improve the low spot of the park by undertaking a project to
install a wide, not deep, 'Y' type gutter sufficient to carry the
water to DeBerry which will be safe to prevent injuries to children,
carried 3-2, with Councilwoman Pfennighausen and Councilman Evans
voting NOE.
Recess was called at 10:25 p.m. and reconvened at 10:38 p.m. with all
mem ers present.
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PLANNING COMMISSION
Planning Director Kicak
December 3 will include
A-1 on the properties at
advised the Planning Commission Agenda
the overlay and the zone change from R-1 to
Blue Mountain Court.
PARKS & RECREATION COMMITTEE
Ken Rinderhagen, Committee Member, stated 30% of the fence on the
southerly boundary of the park is down and is a continuing problem;
advised the Committee recommended removal. Council concurred the
fence should be retrieved and stored.
EMERGENCY OPERATIONS COMMITTEE
The Minutes of October 22 were provided.
CITY COUNCIL REPORTS
Councilman Petta advised the City Engineer provided a map of Blue
Mountain indicating the property owners as requested by Council; the
Blue Mountain Wilderness Park Committee, chaired by Sue Crawford, met
today to discuss the map; the Committee has requested that the City
Engineer superimpose on the map the contour of the area which will
outline an area above which the property is not developable and the
number of acres that represents. Mr. Kicak felt there is a contour
line established by the water company above which the company doesn't
serve water.
Councilman Petta, in response to a citizen's request, recommended,
with ounce concurring, that the City Engineer study the feasibility
of installing a left -turn signal at the intersection of Mt. Vernon and
Barton Road.
ORGANIZATIONAL APPOINTMENTS
CC-84-307 Motion by Councilwoman Pfennighausen, Second by Mayor Pro Tem
Matteson, ALL AYES, to appoint representatives and alternates to
the following organizations:
(1) SANBAG/Omnitrans
Represent ative - Mayor Grant; Alternate - Councilman Petta
(2) SANBAG/T-TAC
Represent e - City Manager; Alternate - City Engineer
(3) SCAG
Tepresentative - Councilwoman Pfennighausen; Alternate -
Councilman Petta
(4) League of California Cities
Representative - Mayor rant; Alternate - Councilman Evans
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(5) Community Redevelopment Administrators
Representative - Mayor Pro hem Matteson; Alternate - City Manager
(6) So. Calif. Joint Powers Insurance Authority
Representative - Councilman etta; Alternates - Finance Director
and City Manager
(7) Clean Community S stems
Represent - Councilwoman Pfennighausen
TRAVEL AUTHORIZATION
City Clerk Erway requested authorization to go to Sacramento December
4 to testify before the Fair Political Practices Commission relative
to problems created by liberal legislation on absentee ballots and to
recommend legislative changes.
CC-84-308 Motion by Councilwoman Pfennighausen, Second by Mayor Grant, ALL AYES
to authorize the City Clerk to go to Sacramento December 4, 1984 to
testify before the Fair Political Practices Commission.
ADJOURN - The regular meeting adjourned at 11:08 p.m. The next
reg�r meeting will be held December 20, 1984 at 5:30 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
City Clyrk
APPROVED:
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