11/19/2009 Community and Economic Development Department
(ALHORNIA
GRAND TERRACE PLANNING COMMISSION
MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING
NOVEMBER 19, 2009
The regular meeting of the Grand Terrace Planning Commission was called to order at the
Grand Terrace Civic Center,22795 Barton Road, Grand Terrace, California, on
November 19,2009, at 6:30 p.m., by Chairman Doug Wilson.
PRESENT: Doug Wilson, Chairman
Matthew Addington, Vice Chairman
Darcy McNaboe, Commissioner
Tom Comstock, Commissioner
Robert Bailes, Commissioner
Joyce Powers, Community and Economic Development Director
Katie Chamberlain, Management Analyst
Mari Montes, Secretary
6:30 P.M.: CONVENE SITE AND ARCHITECTURE REVIEW BOARD/
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
Chairman Wilson convened the Site and Architectural Review Board/Planning Commission
meeting.
• Call to Order
• Pledge of Allegiance
• Roll Call
• Public address to Commission shall be limited to three minutes unless extended
by the Chairman. Should you desire to make a longer presentation, please make
written request to be agendized to the Director of Community and Economic
Development
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22795 Barton Road • Grand Terrace, California 92313-5295 • 909/ 824-6621
- GENERAL PUBLIC PARTICIPATION:
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None
ITEMS:
1.1 SUBJECT: Planning Commission Meeting Minutes of
August 6, 2009
RECOMMENDATION: Approval
MOTION PC 34 -2009 Commissioner Comstock made a motion to approve the
Minutes of August 6, 2009
Second by Vice Chairman Addington.
Motion carries 4-1, Commissioner Bailes abstains.
1.2 SUBJECT: Planning Commission Meeting Minutes of
September 3, 2009
RECOMMENDATION: Approval
MOTION PC 35 -2009 Commissioner Bailes made a motion to approve the
Minutes of September 3, 2009
Second by Vice Chairman Addington.
Motion carries 5-0
1.3 Planning Commission Procedures Manual
RECOMMENDATION: Approve and forward to City
Council for adoption.
Director Powers-Chair Wilson we have placed that on the consent calendar, we have made the
modifications that you had requested the last time we spoke about this and we show them in a
redline format so you could check to make sure all your comments were addressed. If you are
happy with how it's written now, what we would do is final it and refer it to the City Council
with your recommendation.
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Chairman Wilson — Any comments from the Planning Commissioners on this particular item,
1.3?
MOTION PC 36-2009 Vice Chairman Addington made a motion to Approve
and forward to City Council for adoption.
Second by Commissioner Bailes.
Motion carries 5-0
2.1 ADMINISTRATIVE SITE AND ARCHITECTURAL
REVIEW 09-03
APPLICANT: Andrew Glavinic, Owner
LOCATION: Potomac West Commercial Center,
22310 and 22320 Barton Road
RECOMMENDATION: Adopt a Resolution Approving Administrative Site and
Architectural Review 09-03 and Finding the Project Exempt
from the California Environmental Quality Act.
Analyst Chamberlain—The project before you is Administrative Site and Architectural Review
for fagade remodel in the Potomac West Commercial Center, 22310 and 22320 Barton Road.
The proposed project includes the removal of the existing exterior of.the buildings and the
installation of stucco along with the construction of columns, rock veneer, cornice and a wrought
iron trellis. The existing asphalt shingles will remain unchanged and the existing awnings will be
removed during construction and remounted when work is complete. The applicant is
participating in the commercial improvement program sponsored by the Community
Redevelopment Agency which is meant to aide in Grand Terrace's revitalization effort. The
project is located within the Barton Road Specific Plan General Commercial Zone and adheres to
the design guidelines of the Specific Plan and the design policy that was approved May 2009.
The main architectural changes are proposed for the most visible elevations of the buildings, the
south and east elevations. However, staff has recommended the trim of the north and west
elevations be painted the "Iron River" accent color. The proposed color pallet consists of one
major color with three accent colors. The predominant color is a light tan called "Floating
Feather", the darker tan called "S'mores" is the main accent color, while "Red Ink" and "Iron
River" contribute additional accents to the overall project. Staff explored multiple color pallets
with the applicant; however, the applicant felt using four similar earth tones made the conceptual
exterior look monotonous. The design guidelines of the Barton Road Specific Plan encourage the
use of the contrasting accent colors. Environmentally, the project qualifies for an exemption
from the provision of the California Environmental Quality Act pursuant to section 15301A
which exempts interior and exterior alterations to existing facilities. Staff recommends the
adoption of the resolution approving the project and finding the project exempt from CEQA.
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Chairman Wilson—Any discussion with the staff from the Planning Commissioners.
Commissioner McNaboe—The color Iron River, is that in the black
Analyst Chamberlain — It is more a green. We tried to get the best rendering possible but it's
difficult with the printers.
Commissioner McNaboe—So it has a green (inaudible) very dark green.
Analyst Chamberlain—It does have a green quality to it.
Commissioner McNaboe—How long is the duration of this project?
Analyst Chamberlain — The project will start in the next 12 months and should be completed
within a year once it starts.
Director Powers —Commissioner McNaboe, to complete the construction drawings, get through
building,bid the project and complete the construction we are estimating about one year total.
Commissioner McNaboe — Specifically, I am asking about once they start do we have an idea
how long the thing would be torn apart?
Director Powers — How long will the thing be torn apart? Is that your comment? Well it'll be
done in sections so everybody won't be inconvenienced at the same time. Part of the contract
will be to keep the businesses accessible. I would expect it would be under construction for a
period of four-to six months.
Commissioner Bailes —Building B the elevation that's the east side of Pasta Italia, the wrought
iron that is going to be placed there, is that going to be free standing or attached to the building.
Analyst Chamberlain — Staff s recommendation and one of the conditions of approval is that it
be mounted flush to the wall. Essentially it will be a decorative trellis it will not be a functional
trellis and that is just to try to prevent an area that could be blocked by vines and greenery.
Commissioner Bailes — That was my concern if it was free standing and we put vines on it
would block out the view.
Vice Chairman Addington — I do have one question of staff, the project we approved a month
or so ago down the street, I thought the direction was stuff like this would be made at the staff
level not at the Planning Commission level. Is there a reason why this was brought up to us for
review?
Director Powers — This project is a little more intensive. It involves actual construction and
modification of the whole look of the center. The other one was paint and landscaping.
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Director Powers — This project is a little more intensive. It involves actual construction and
modification of the whole look of the center. The other one was paint and landscaping.
Chairman Wilson — Staff do we have an actual specification on the rock veneer? I see it's
specified as rock veneer but there are a myriad of these types of stacked river rock, verses
flagstone, verses whatever. I see all our colors called out but I am concern about the call out for
the rock veneer.
Director Powers—Is that shown on the photograph that you have there? It's the stacked stone in
the earth tone colors,the beige and tan is what they intend to use.
Chairman Wilson—O.K. as long as it looks like this we are O.K. I am just concerned about the
fact that there is no specification.
Director Powers—We do have it Chair Wilson.
Chairman Wilson —Any further discussions, conversations with staff about this item from the
Planning Commissioners? If not then let's open this up to public, I note that the applicant is not
here.
Analyst Chamberlain—Yes, that is correct, he is not here.
Chairman Wilson — Do we have any public input on this particular item? Not seeing any and
not having any request to speak form then we will close the public portion of this and bring back
to Commission for their pleasure.
MOTION PC 37-2009 Vice Chairman Addington made motion for approval of
SA09-03.
Second by Commissioner Comstock
Motion carries 5-0
3. INFORMATION TO COMMISSIONERS
Director Powers — Just one item. I would like to update the PC on the Compass Blueprint
Application. We selected a consultant firm to start the update of the Barton Road Specific Plan.
We are finalizing that contract and we expect them to start work with a community meeting and
such in December.
Vice Chairman Addington—Who did we select?
Director Powers—Hogle Ireland.
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Commissioner Comstock — Curious about the Stater Bros. and Jacobsen. I have heard some
rumors going around town and seen a few things here and there I was just curious if you had any
information to give to us regarding that.
Director Powers —Yes Commissioner Comstock, and on the Walgreen's/Fresh & Easy, as well.
We have had meetings with all the parties over the last week and the first part of this week. Both
parties want to move ahead and start construction. The Stater Bros., if you recall, our biggest
problem getting that one started was the financial feasibility given just the one user would have
to fund all the on-site parking lots and driveways. We did discuss this week and we tried to really
pin it down and we're extremely close. I think you will see an article in the paper tomorrow
written by Steven Wall that includes a stated comment from Jack Brown as soon as you guys
approve his plans.
Commissioner Comstock — Am I correct in understand that Stater Bros. then was able to
purchase a portion of the property from Jacobsen Holdings?
Director Powers—That is my understanding.
Commissioner Comstock — Any information to what was formally known as the Outdoor
Adventure Center?
Director Powers—No, that is still pending an EIR for the actual selection of the alternative.
Chairman Wilson — Did you say you had something to say about the Dr. Ha site or is there
anything new?
Director Powers — Yes, the last time I updated you I believe I informed you they have flipped
the building so they expect us to look at the loading zone from Barton Road and of course I knew
the Commission wouldn't be wild about that, so we did send them back. They have come back a
couple of times, still trying to push that design and telling us if we don't let them do this then
Fresh & Easy might not come to Grand Terrace either. Where we are now is they are taking it
back to their executive management at Walgreen's to agree to put the loading zone around back.
What we are looking at, to make that work for them, is to have them orient the store on Barton
Road the way we would like to see it, and change the site to allow a row of pull up parking
perpendicular to Barton Road and we would screen it with landscaping. The other items that
really helped a lot is we have had long discussions whether or not Britton Way would be closed
and they were able to get a commitment from the Fire Department that they would allow it to be
closed to through traffic. So we are looking at the engineering on that and making sure it doesn't
put the fire trucks too far away from the homes on the other side of the wall. So we are almost
there to get started, as well. But you may see a revised site plan for that one.
Chairman Wilson — I know this is an enforcement issue but there is at house on 11983 Canary
and I suspect that house is being used as a commercial type of venture because there is masonry
piled probably 8 feet high in the drive way. It hasn't changed much; they are doing some
masonry work on the house but it has nothing to do with the materials that are stacked there. So
my guess is there are several work trucks and so on and so I think this is being used as a little
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r' different as residential. That is not conducive to the neighborhood. The other thing is I was
curious about if there had been any investigation in relation to my pet peeve on the house way up
at the top that is to the south of the water tank that has the glaring, I think there are seven lights if
I remember right, that glare down into our area and has the large green tarp on the brown hill on
the Blue Mountain. I wondered if we discovered what the motivation was for the sudden lighting
situation.
Director Powers—We haven't discovered the motivation but we did discover the home that you
were referring and did check it out in the evening, our Code Enforcement officer. There are no,
which I am sure you know, there are no light standards that they must be attached to the home
itself. So that is what I know at this point.
Chairman Wilson—So then my process is to make a formal complaint.
Director.Powers—I actually submitted that on your behalf.
Chairman Wilson —Do we have any follow up on the Swertfegger situation I know we have a
recent review of their circumstance and I believe there was a sixty day lead time on them in
compliance with the balance of their CUP conditions.
Director Powers = What I can tell you this evening is that they, within the past week have had
their NPDES annual inspection. We have a lot of photographs available and the check list the
inspector goes through and they were in compliance with all the regulation of the inspection.
Chairman Wilson - So they have thirty days to be compliant?
Director Powers—That is correct.
CHAIR WILSON ADJOURNED THE SITE AND ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW
BOARD/PLANNING COMMISSION MEEING TO THE NEXT MEETING TO BE HELD
ON DECEMBER 3,2009.
Respectfully Submitted, Approved By,
idyce°Powers Doug Wilson, Chairman
Community and Economic Planning Commission
Development Director
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