04/21/2005 Community and Economic Development
(ALIFORNIA Department
22795 Barton Road
Grand Terrace
California 92313-5295 GRAND TERRACE PLANNING COMMISSION
(909) 824-6621 MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING
April 21, 2005
The reaular meeting of the Grand Terrace Planninq Commission was called to order
at the Grand Terrace Civic Center, 22795 Barton Road, Grand Terrace. California, on
April 21. 2005. at 7:00 p.m., by Chairperson Douq Wilson.
PRESENT: Matthew Addington, Vice Chairperson
Brian Whitley, Commissioner
Robert Bidney, Commissioner
Tom Comstock, Commissioner
Gary Koontz, Community Development Director
John Lampe, Associate Planner
Michelle Boustedt, Planning Secretary
ABSENT: Doug Wilson, Chairperson
7:05 P.M. CONVENE SITE AND ARCHITECTURE REVIEW BOARD/
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
• Pledge of Allegiance led by Commissioner Bidney
• Roll Call
PUBLIC PARTICIPATION: NONE
ITEMS:
1. Planning Commission Meeting Minutes of March 17, 2005
MOTION PC-14-2005: Commissioner Comstock made a motion to approve the minutes
of March 17, 2005
Commissioner Bidney Seconded the motion
MOTION VOTE
PC-1 4-2005: Approved 3-0-1-1
Vice Chair Addington Abstained
Chair Wilson Absent
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2. SA-04-21, CUP-04-10
E-04-12: Continuation of the project that will consist,of a completely new
auto service station with convenience market, car wash, and
delicatessen. The convenience market will have a deli, a walk-
in cooler, beer and wine sales and convenience goods. Also
proposed will be freeway signage identifying new service station
and other businesses on the site. The existing service station
building, existing signs and landscaping will be removed and
replaced with a new service station building, new signs,
including new freeway sign, and a new car wash. The existing
fuel canopy will be retained and extended. The new station may
be operated as a Valero Station.
APPLICANT: RAMCAM Corp., on behalf of business owner, Mr. Fahim
Tanios
LOCATION: 22045 Barton Road (Approximately .66 acre parcel located on
the south side of Barton Road just east of the 1-215 Freeway off-
ramp. This site was operated as a Texaco and Shell fueling
station in the past.)
RECOMMENDATION: Open the Public Hearing, receive the staff report and public
testimony, and Continue the project to the next regular meeting
of the Planning Commission to allow for further revisions. Or -
Deny the proposal, which will require the matter to be continued
so that Staff can prepare the proper findings to support the
denial.
Associate Planner Lampe greeted the Commission and presented his staff report. The
item had been continued from the March 17, 2005, meeting in order for the Applicant to
provide additional information and revised drawings and exhibits for the new Valero Gas
station at the southerly side of Barton Road immediately east of the 1-215 Freeway.
Staff met with the Applicant on March 24th to discuss the additional items that were
required to make a positive recommendation on the part of the Staff for this project. An
issue was raised with regard to the exit of the drive thru of the car wash being too close to
the right-of-way of the property line of the most westerly driveway off of Barton Road that
could create a traffic situation. The City Traffic Engineer proposed some solutions to the
problem. One was to reverse the direction of the drive thru, or to increase the throat
distance which is the distance from curb face down to the entrance of the drive thru to a
minimum of 40 feet. The Applicant chose the latter of the two alternatives.
In order to accommodate the relocation of the exit of the drive thru, the propane tank had to
be relocated to the south east corner of the property. The overall landscaping of the site
did not change.
The Applicant provided additional information with regard to the elevations. The Applicant
included additional information with regard to colors of the building and additional
architectural features showing masonry caps, roof eaves and other details with regard to
windows.
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The east elevation shows individual window panes to make the window design compatible
with overall architectural approach of the building. The building will utilize the dark green
standing seam type of metal roof. The use of dark brown sashes will be used around
windows, accentuating the various reds and browns of the architectural features.
The stone veneer around the base has been extended into the west elevation of the
building. The south elevation will not be seen, but the stone veneer has also been added
to the southerly part of the building.
Samples of the roof material, copper awning, rock veneer and the stucco have been
provided for the Commission to review.
One of the issues that the Staff had with this project was with regard to the corporate colors
of the Valero Station. Eight Valero Stations were visited in which they all had the same
"Valero Blue" and "Valero Gold". The Corporate Office was contacted to find out if this
particular project would be required as a part of the project. The Staff was then contacted
by a company that is responsible for the Valero Station Imaging in Southern California in
which the Applicant was sent a letter with various drawings of the canopy. Based on the
drawings, the canopy is required to be treated with the Valero Blue and Valero Gold.
The earlier design that was presented contained a mansard type of roof made up of metal
panels to match the architecture of the building. One of Valero's stipulations is that the
fascia of the canopy be a vertical fascia. The canopy will be changed in color and design.
The west elevation shows the canopy of the gas station as well as the extension that will be
added to the canopy at the southerly end.
- The Applicant provided a revised rendering that would be realistic in terms of the proposed
landscape that was submitted at the previous meeting. The Applicant has indicated that he
has additional drawings to show the Commission.
In terms of the proposed freeway sign and its compliance with the stipulations of the sign
code; Staff believes that the sign could be improved. The individual signs that will be
placed on the sign board itself will not exceed 100 square feet.
At this time, Staff feels that they cannot make a recommendation for this project. The
major issue is that the color and design of the fuel canopy as stipulated by the Valero
Corporation does not match the architectural design and color of the building itself. The
dark blue color of the fuel canopy clashes with the dark green color of the standing seam
roof of the building. The last submitted rendering does not show the details of the browns
and reds that have been utilized for the building. The proposed browns and reds do not
match with the blue and gold.corporate colors.
Therefore, it is Staffs opinion that the Commission may consider four options on how to
proceed with the project. The first option would be to continue the Public Hearing to the
next Planning Commission Meeting of May 19, 2005, in which it would allow the Applicant
time to prepare a new color scheme with the building which would be compatible with the
required color scheme of the canopy. The second option would be to approve the project
_ subject to the Resolution of Approval, but with instructions to Staff to work with the
Applicant to revise the color schemes of the building to be compatible with the canopy.
Option three would be to approve the project with no particular instructions to the Staff. The
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final option is to deny the project and continue it to the next meeting to prepare the proper
findings for denial.
Associate Planner Lampe concluded his presentation and welcomed any questions from
the Commission.
Commissioner Bidney asked with regard to the color scheme, could the building be
redesigned to have the same corporate blue for the roof of the building?
Associate Planner Lampe replied that the Applicant may have some variations of color
schemes that he may wish to elaborate on during his presentation.
Commissioner Comstock asked if there were any roof colors as presented for the roof
portion of the building.
Associate Planner Lampe presented the sample provided for the roof of the building.
Vice Chair Addington opened up the Public Hearing
Alex Irshaid - Ramcam Corp
670 E. Parkridge Ave #101 - Corona
Mr. Irshaid greeted the Commission and reported that he is the architect for the project.
Mr. Irshaid presented his color renderings for the project to the Commission.
Mr. Irshaid reported that the first color rendering is what the Staff had presented to the
Commission. A rendering of the canopy illustrates that the canopy is proposed to be white
in color so as not to clash with the roof color of the building. When the Valero color was
proposed to match the color of the canopy, Mr. Irshaid felt that the building was not an
attractive,looking building with the corporate colors used. The third illustration has been the
closest color compared to the corporate colors and would like to use the third rendering as
the final color rendering and would like for the Commission to approve the colors as
presented in the third rendering.
Should a green teal be used for the canopy, then it is the opinion of the Applicant that the
color will blend better with the proposed building roof color. Another one of the renderings
illustrates the green color of the canopy to match the roof color of the building in which the
Corporate Office rejected. The last pictures submitted to the Commission by Mr. Irshaid
illustrates that everything blends together.
Mr. Irshaid pointed out the sign dimensions in which he has measured the square footage
of each sign face to be 47.28 square feet for each section which will total about 94.56
square feet; which is considered to be under 100 square feet of total sign footage.
Mr. Irshaid felt that the first option to continue would put a burden on the Applicant due to
finances and approvals for Shell Corporation to purchase the land and close escrow. The
second option seems to be the most acceptable and the Applicant is willing to work with the
Staff to resolve any color issues.
_. Commissioner Whitley asked Mr. Irshaid if the Applicant was still in discussion with the
Valero Corporation about alternatives.
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Mr. Irshaid explained that the canopy must be presented in the Valero Corporate colors, but
the building does not have to be the same colors.
Fahim Tanios -Applicant
11525 Pecan Street Alta Loma
Mr. Tanios thanked the Commission and is in the hopes for approval of the project as
presented. At this time, he is experiencing financial hardship because the station has been
closed for such a long period of time.
Mr. Tanios feels that the issue of color should not hold up the project. He would like to
submit his plans as soon as possible.
Vice Chair Addington asked Mr. Irshaid what had happened to the handicap path from
Barton Road that was presented at the previous meeting.
Mr. Irshaid found from the Building Official that it was not necessary. When it was moved,
it was forced to be removed because of the 40ft throat for the exit to the car wash.
Vice Chair Addington asked why the Tudor architectural style was used'for the project.
Mr. Irshaid replied that the style was chosen because of the area. The whole community
showed that it was a mountainous area, in which they felt it matched with the community.
Vice Chair Addington felt that the project did not match with the Barton Road Specific Plan.
Mr. Irshaid felt that the Specific Plan was not followed because they felt that the property
was further out and away to where it was not needed to be followed.
Commissioner Comstock felt that the proposed illustrations did not show the window style
consistency that was asked to be followed at the previous meeting.
Mr. Irshaid replied that the previous elevations showed one solid sheet of glass. The new
proposed elevations show individual pane windows would look more like store front, in
which the Applicant did not want or like.
Commissioner Comstock asked if there were still 14 parking spaces.
Mr. Irshaid answered that there are still 14 parking spaces proposed.
Commissioner Comstock felt that the proposed building should meet the Barton Road
Specific Plan or as a California Craftsman design as required by the nearby Outdoor
Adventures Center Specific Plan.
Vice Chair Addington closed the Public Hearing.
Vice Chair Addington asked Staff with regard to the sign ordinance square footage
requirements seems to be different than what is proposed.
Associate Planner Lampe replied that the sign code defines the area of the sign is the area
that you can draw a rectangle that can be drawn around the sign message itself. The
applicant has shown that each individual sign on the overall sign structure would be the
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limit of no more than 100 square feet used. A Condition can be proposed with regard to
any sign within the sign structure would have to comply with the definition.
Vice Chair Addington asked would it be easier to review the sign code to resolve the sign
issue.
Associate Planner Lampe replied that he has the sign code and will find it to present to the
Commission.
Vice Chair Addington asked if the architecture is approved which does not match the
Barton Road Specific Plan or the overlay of the Outdoor Adventures Center Specific Plan,
will this project set a precedence for other projects in the future or could there be some sort
of liability back on the City.
Planning Director Koontz replied that it could set a precedence where a proposed applicant
may come and say that this project is approved, so why can't they do the same. Should the
project be approved with the current design of architecture, the Commission will basically
be saying that they are comfortable with approving similar architecturally styled projects
such as this one in the future.
Associate Planner Lampe replied that this particular project is in a transitional area, and it
was felt the overall guidelines of the architectural style do meet the outlines of the desirable
architectural elements of the Barton Road Specific Plan. It is the Staffs interpretation that
no specific style is called out in the Barton Road Specific Plan that illustrates rustic type of
architecture.
Commissioner Comstock asked what about the architectural guidelines for the Outdoor
Adventures Center.
Planning Director Koontz replied that the Outdoor .Adventures Center is California
Craftsman and is laid out in that fashion to portray a rural design to fit its theme. At current,
this project does meet the standards of the Barton Road Specific Plan.
Vice Chair Addington asked if the Fire Department had any issues with the relocation of the
propane tank.
Associate Planner Lampe replied that the relocation of the propane tank was never given'to
the Fire. Department because it would be difficult to get a response back in time for the
meeting. There is a Condition that states that prior to any building permits being issued to
the property; all requirements have to meet with the Fire Department.
Vice Chair Addington commented about the proposed copper awnings, and their initial
appearance, however, in time the awnings will anodize to a greenish color.
Associate Planner Lampe replied that the Applicant is aware that the awnings will become
anodized in time, and feel that it will further approve the appearance of the site.
Commissioner Bidney likes the design of the project and feels that the color scheme will
need to be worked out. Mr. Bidney is also in favor of the building and that the project would
make an aesthetically pleasing welcome into the City.
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Planning Director Koontz replied that should the Commission wish to make the motion, the
Staff will abide by such a motion. However, if there is any opportunity to bring the item
back before the Commission for one final review, it will be done.
Commissioner Bidney agreed with Planning Director Koontz and felt that would be a good
and fair alternative to all parties involved.
Associate Planner Lampe read the definition of the Municipal Sign Code for the City of
Grand Terrace.
Vice Chair Addington feels that the sign as proposed exceeds the sign ordinance as read
by Associate Planner Lampe. Should the project be approved, does the sign also get
approved as larger than what the ordinance allows or does the sign go back and meet an
administrative sign review process.
Planning Director Koontz replied that the definition of the sign area at this point would have
to be left up to the City Attorney.
MOTION PC-15-2006: Vice Chair Addington made a motion to proceed with the Staffs
recommendation Number One to Continue the Item to the next
Planning Commission Meeting to allow for a new color scheme
of the building which is compatible with the canopy and a
revised freeway sign that complies with the sign code and
redesign the building to reflect the California Craftsman style o
the Outdoor Adventures Center.
Commissioner Comstock seconded the motion.
MOTION VOTE
PC-15-2006: Approved 3-1-1-0
Commissioner Bidney voting No
Chair Wilson Absent
3. SP-04-01-Al
E-05-10: Request to the City Community Development Department to
remove approximately 7.8 acres of property from Specific Plan
04-01 (the Outdoor Adventures Center Specific Plan) and return
it to its former M-2 Zoning status. The site is currently
designated as a portion of the Planning Area 6 of Specific Plan
04-01.
APPLICANT: The AES Corporation (dba Riverside Canal Power Company)
LOCATION: Northeast corner of Pico Street and Taylor Street
Assessor's Parcel Number 1167-151-63.
RECOMMENDATION: Recommend approval of Amendment #1 to Specific Plan 04-01
to the City Council.
Planning Director Koontz presented his staff report. An application for Specific Plan
Amendment 04-01 for the Outdoor Adventures Center Specific Plan. The subject site is
located at the northwest corner of Pico and Taylor Street. The area encompasses about
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7.8 acres at the very southwest corner of the Outdoor Adventures Center. South parcels of
the site are designated as Industrial under the General Plan and Zoned M2. The old power
plant site is designated which as Industrial M2 Zoning. To the east of the property is MR
Zoning and to the North is Zoned C2.
Per the Outdoor Adventures Center Specific Plan Land Use Map, it encompasses about
half of Planning Area 6. This area is not visible from the freeway and has access from
Taylor Streets and Commerce Way, once Commerce Way becomes extended.
The site was originally the tank farm for the diesel fuel tanks that supplied energy to the
plant before it was converted to natural gas. In February of this year, the Planning
Commission was asked to make a determination of consistency for power generating
facilities in the M2 Zone. At that time, AES was looking at converting the old plant into a
new peeker plant. It was the consensus of the Commission that power generation and
transmission facilities are deemed appropriate uses within the M2 Zone.
Since the meeting in February, the AES Corporation has approached the Staff to consider
possibly constructing a new power plant on the subject site. This will allow them the
opportunity to present two alternatives sites to build a new plant. Meetings have been held
with the City Manager with regard to this application, in which he has agreed to evaluate
this site and submit an application to the CEC.
The City of Grand Terrace currently owns the property until CEC makes a decision on
whether they feel that this site would be deemed appropriate for a power plant and issue
permits. In the event that a permit is issued for this request, there will be a swap for a
portion of the land for the old power plant site.
At this time, the Application is exempt from CEQA. Once the project is submitted to the
CEC, they will perform a complete CEQA evaluation.
Planning Director Koontz concluded his Staff report.
Vice Chair Addington opened up the Public Hearing.
Julie Way - AES Corporation
690 N. Studebaker Long Beach
Ms. Way introduced herself to the Commission. Approval of the application does not in any
way grant the company approval to build a power plant, since that jurisdiction resides solely
with the energy commission. By approving this amendment, it will allow the CEC to assess
the environmental impacts of a power plant on either of the two sites to determine which
one has fewer. Ms. Way welcomed questions of the Commission.
MOTION PC-16-2005: Commissioner Whitley made a motion to approve SP-04-01 A-1
and E-05-10.
Commissioner Comstock Seconded the motion.
MOTION
VOTE PC-16-2005: Approved 4-0-1-0
Chair Wilson Absent
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ADJOURN SITE AND ARCHITECTURE REVIEW BOARD/PLANNING COMMISSION
MEETING 8:08 om
CONVENE PUBLIC WORKSHOP SESSION
• Information to Commissioners
None
• Information from Commissioners
Vice Chair Addington asked what the status was with regard to Sav-On.
Planning Director Koontz replied that construction bids have been received and they
should be breaking ground in three to four weeks.
Commissioner Bidney asked what the status was for the Outdoor Adventures
Center.
Planning Director Koontz replied that the master developer is moving through the
due diligence process. A draft development agreement should be sent to the City
Council by September of this year.
Commissioner Comstock asked what the status was for Miguel's Restaurant.
Planning Director Koontz replied that a new application will be submitted within the
next two to three weeks.
ADJOURN PUBLIC WORKSHOP SESSION 8:10 PM
NEXT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TO BE HELD ON MAY 19, 2005
Respectfully Submitted, Approved By,
Gary Koontz, Planhrfig Director Doug Wils& , Chairman
Planning Commission
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