07/15/2004 Community and Economic Development Department
CALIFORNIA
GRAND TERRACE PLANNING COMMISSION
MINTUES OF REGULAR MEETING
July 15, 2004
The regular meeting of the Grand Terrace Planniinq Commission was called to
order at the Grand Terrace Civic Center, 22795 Barton Road, Grand Terrace,
California, on July 15. 2004. at 7:00 p.m., by Vice Chairperson Matt Addington
PRESENT: Doug Wilson, Chairperson
Matthew Addington, Vice Chairperson
Brian Whitley, Commissioner
Robert Bidney, Commissioner
Tom Comstock, Commissioner
Gary Koontz, Community Deve!opment Director
John Lampe, Associate Planner
- Jeff Gollihar, Planning Technician
ABSENT: None
7:00 P.M. CONVENE SITE AND ARCHITECTURE REVIEW BOARD/
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
Pledge of Allegiance led by Vice Chairman Addington
Roil Call
PUBLIC PARTICIPATION:
Debbie Burrows
22954.Victoria Street
Mrs. Burrows wanted to express her concern vrith the lot at the corner of Freston
and Victoria Street. In April of 2002, she had presented a petition before the
Commission to oppose splitting the lot into fivo parcels. Mrs. Burrows says that she
has noticed that the property has been divided into two lots.
Mrs. Burrows claims that she and her husband, along with a couple of neighbors
have contacted the City and the City has given information that the first house will be
built, and the second house will be built some time later on.
22795 Barton Road • Grand Terrace, Cdlifornia 92313-5295 • 909/ 824-6621
Planning Director Koontz replied that the low-mod housing program was working on
the project through the City Manager's office and the Planning Department has no
involvement in it. To the best of Mr. Koontz's knowledge, there is only one home
proposing to be built on the lot.
ITEMS:
1. MINUTES Planning Commission Meeting Minutes of
May 20, 2004
RECOMMENDATION: Approval
MOTION PC-1372004: Vice Chair Addington made a motion to approve the
minutes.
Chair Wilson seconded the motion
MOTION VOTE
PC-13-2004: Approved 5-0-0-0
2. MINUTES Planning Commission Meeting Minutes of
June 3, 2004
RECOMMENDATION: _ Approval
MOTION PC-14-2004: Vice Chair Addington made a motion to approve the
minutes.
Commissioner Bidney seconded the motion.
MOTION VOTE
PC-14-2004: Approved 5=0=0-0
3. MINUTES Planning Commission Meeting Minutes of
June 17, 2004
RECOMMENDATION: Approval
MOTION PC-15-2004: Vice Chair Addington made a motion to approve the
minutes.
Commissioner Comstock seconded the motion
MOTION VOTE
PC-1 5-2004: Approved 5-0-0-0
4. SA-04-09, SA-04-10
TTM-04-02, E-04-04: Construction of a 55-unit condominium project on 4.8
acres.
APPLICANT: NBD Development, Incorporated
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LOCATION: Approximately 4.8 acre, more or less vacant parcel
located generally on the north side of De Berry Street
between Reed Avenue and the Gage Canal right-of-way.
RECOMMENDATION: Open the Public Hearing, receive the staff report and
testimony, close the public hearing and approve the
Resolution calling for the approval of SA-04-09, SA-04-10
and E-04-04 and recommend to the City Council the
approval of the Resolution calling for the approval of
TTM-04-02 supported by the required findings and
subject to the recommended conditions of approval.
Associate Planner Lampe presented his staff report. The Applicant is requesting approval
to construct a 55 unit single family home development to be sold to individual home buyers
as a condominium subdivision. Per State Law, the City's subdivision ordinance does
require the filing of tentative map since this is a condominium type of project. The subject
site is approximately 4.8 acres located on the north side of De Berry Street. The site is
mainly vacant except for two houses located on. the southerly corners of the site. Those
homes will be demolished to make way for the project if it is approved.
In the past, the site was a developed multi-family courtyard type of project. That
development was torn down in the late 1980's. The surrounding area is developed single
family residential to the west, and single story residential to the south. A retirement hotel is
located to the north of the subject site facing Barton Road. To the east of the subject site is
another condominium type of project called the "Cape Terrace Condominiums".
De Berry Street is a 66 foot wide local collector road on the City's Circulation Element.
Currently, it is developed only with an asphalt type of curb in one-location. The rest of the
area does not have curbs, gutters or sidewalks. Reed Avenue does have curbs, gutters
and sidewalks. Additional right of way will be needed at the southerly portion as a part of
this project as well as the needed street improvements.
The master plan shows a 51 inch storm drain running along DeBerry Street carrying storm
water downhill in a westerly direction. The site is zoned R-3 or Medium Density
Residential. It does permit for a multi family type of project. ' The zoning was changed in
1984.
The single family homes located to the west and south of the subject site are zoned R1.
The properties to the east of the subject site are also zoned R3 as is The Crest Apartments
located to the south of the subject site..
The maximum density in the R3 Zone is 12 units to the acre. The requested 55 units are
11.5 units per acres, which are consistent with the R3 Zone.
The site Plan shows the proposed development consisting of 23 residential buildings
throughout the site. 14 of the buildings will consist of a two unit configuration. There will be
6 residential structures at the center of the property which will contain 4 units in each
structure. Three different locations will have a single unit configuration.
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Interior access will be provided by a 24 foot wide interior streets. An entrance driveway will
be located at DeBerry Street. No direct access will be provided onto Reed Street with the
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exception of emergency access that is required by the Fire Department, in which an
emergency driveway approach will be provided for adequate emergency access for their
vehicles.
The buildings will conform to the R3 setbacks in that the residential structures will setback
25 feet from DeBerry Street, 15 feet from Reed Avenue, and 10 feet from the Gage Canal.
The applicant has asked for a minor deviation on the north side to modify the rear yard,
which would normally be 20 feet to 16 feet which is allowable under the zoning code. This
will make for sufficient room for a turning radius of the interior driveways and parking aisles.
The Staff does feel that this is allowable and will still allow for 80-90 feet of separation
between the residential structures of the northerly part of the property of the residential
hotel, located just north of the subject site.
Total parking on the site will consist of a two car garage with 110 covered parking spaces.
In front of each garage there will be two open parking spaces which would consist of 110
parking spaces. There will be 15 open guest spaces scattered about the project. The
amount of parking that will be provided is almost a factor'of two more than what is required
by the zoning code.
There will be an open type of landscape with a pathway leading to a tot.lot, gazebo and
bar-b-que facility. The south portion of the site will consist of a basketball court along with
additional.bar-b-que and gazebo facilities.
The-proposed floor plan will consist of two stories in height. The first floor of Plan Number
One will contain a "great room" or family room, kitchen and half bath. On the second floor
will be two bedrooms with a loft or office area and two baths.
Subsequent to writing the staff report, a written opinion was received from the City Attorney
with regard to the provision in the zoning code that says that a multi-family unit can consist
of no more `than two bedrooms, and that the third room can be made-into. an additional
bedroom.
Plan Two will be a two story unit with a living room, dining room and half bathroom on the
first floor; two bedrooms a den and a loft area will consist of the second floor.
The elevations of Plan One and Two will consist of an architectural style to reflect California
Craftsman with composite roofs and stucco finish and trim; as well as exposed wood
rafters, decorative columns. The architect is present to answer any questions with regard
to the design and layout. The applicant's architect provided a color board in which muted
type of colors will be used to fit in to the existing neighborhood.
The project has a condition that the landscaping on the exterior south and west sides be
treated with the maximum amount of landscaping to provide transition and softening of the
residential areas to the west and south of the project. The landscape architect did provide
some landscaping amenities that will be provided around the gazebo and recreation areas
of the project.
The recommended conditions of approval on the tentative map require that a homeowner's
association be formed. The association would have the responsibility of managing and
maintaining the development.
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The applicant's engineer did provide the staff with a conceptual grading plan to show how
the site will be graded in which the property will drain to the west and southerly parts
towards Reed Avenue and De Berry Streets. In addition, as part of the plan check process
if this project is approved, the grading plan submitted for plan check will have to comply
with the NPDES Requirements. The Applicant has provided an NPDES Compliance Study
for the Commission's review, and has also provided a hydrology study showing how the
draining coming on and off the site would be managed. The applicant's engineer is here to
answer any questions that the Commission may have with regard to the studies provided.
Based upon the Environmental Analysis Initial Study this project does qualify for a Negative
Declaration under the provisions of CEQA in that the project will .not have an adverse
impact on the environment.
The proposed architectural treatment with the California Craftsman style will be compatible
with the-residential neighborhood. The site at present has been used for illegal dumping
and other unsavory activities.
The Staff is recommending that the Commission approve the 55 Unit Condominium
development under the requested site and architectural reviews as called by the Resolution
of Approval and the staff report with the appropriate findings of the conditions of approval.
The Staff is also recommending that the Planning Commission in turn recommend to the
City,Council the approval of the Tentative Tract Map that is called for by the Resolution of
Approval that is attached to the staff report.
Vice Chair Addington asked when the previous application was proposed on the site for an
apartment project, how many units was the previous applicant applying for?
Associate Planner Lampe replied that there were 69 apartment units proposed with 12
being townhouse configuration and 57 typical flat type orientation configuration.
Chair Wilson opened the Public Hearing by inviting the applicant to speak about his
proposed project.
Chris Gerold- NBD Development
1726 Manhattan Beach Blvd., Manhattan Beach
Mr. Gerold greeted the Commission and introduced his engineer and architect. Mr. Gerold
stated that he would like to propose 55 units for sale condominium units. Mr. Gerold
expressed that he would like for the proposed buyers to use the Fannie Mae for financing in
which their terms would require that 80% of the project be owner occupied. Mr. Gerold
stated that he has worked with many attorneys over the years to keep condominiums as
owner/occupied, and the Fannie Mae Guidelines have come close to what they are trying to
achieve.
Mr. Gerold provided some background with regard to preparing for the application brought
before the Planning Commission. An invitation was mailed to all of the property owners
within the 300 foot radius to come to a town meeting which was held July 1st in the
- Community Room. 13 attendees were at the meeting and signed a guest list. Five of the
residents actually wanted to be put on a waiting list to purchase condos.
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Vice Chair Addington asked why there are two floor plans rather than 3 plans being offered.
Why are there only two plans being laid out rather than three plans?
Mr. Gerold replied that that there is a requirement of the City with regard to 20 feet between
buildings and it limits the density issues. A lot of research has been done and it was found
that the two plans would allow the ability to build economically and to keep the prices at a
level that exists in the area today. Should the project be online at this time, it is thought
that the condominiums would be sold in the $200,000-300,000 range.
Chair Wilson opened up the public participation portion of the public hearing.
Lewis James
12286 Reed Avenue
Mr. James .lives on the corner of Reed and De Berry and is opposed to the project.
Because it is a residential area, Mr. James feels that this project is not compatible with the
rest of the area.
Mr. James expressed his concern with additional traffic, noise and pollution on De Berry
Street that will be generated from the residents in the project along with the impact of the
city schools. He is also concerned with the water supply and how it would impact the future
of the water supply for the City.
Chair Wilson asked the staff with regard to the Traffic on DeBerry Street, was there any
other comments that have been added by the traffic engineer.
Planning:Director Koontz replied that the traffic engineer had the same comments as his
last comments that he had with regard to the proposed apartment complex that he did not
see any concerns with regard to the street impacts. There is also a letter from Riverside
Highland Water that had no concerns with the water supply.
Patricia Farley
12513 Michigan
Ms. Farley stated that she was concerned with the poor planning all over Grand Terrace
and feels that there have been irresponsible efforts with out taking the care to protect
everyone's rights. Initially, there were people who were not interested in having apartments
placed on the area.
Ms. Farley feels that this project is a way of slipping in apartments and calling them
condominiums so that they can move forward with the project. She also feels that Mr.
Koontz and Mr. Lampe make a lot of efforts to make certain project go through and others
not go through.
Barney Karger
11668 Bernardo Way
Mr. Karger wanted to know if Mr. Koontz had telephoned McKeever Engineering, and
asked if the existing sewers in which Mr. McKeever had stated that the sewers were
designed for the ultimate flow of sewage.
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Chair Wilson wanted to clarify Mr. Karger's question by asking Mr. Karger's concern was if
the City was equipped to handle sanitary sewer service for the zoning that is approved on
those parcels all along the proposed area including the undeveloped areas of De Berry
Street.
Planning Director Koontz replied that the discussion for the proposed 55 units was with
regard to the storm drains and not sanitary sewage drains.
Mr. Karger asked if there was any request with regard to the sanitary sewage flow
requirement from the applicant to the planning department.
Planning Director Koontz replied that there was no such request and it was a requirement
that would be required from the Public Works Department during final plan check.
Mr. Karger replied that he was required to have a count of the sewage flow for his own
property. The other question for the staff was with regard to the traffic flow. What would be
the maximum allowed for traffic flow on DeBerry'Street.
Chair Wilson recalled that at the meeting when the proposed apartment complex was
brought before the Commission he did recall asking specific questions in relation to the
traffic circulation.
Associate Planner Lampe replied that the correspondence from the City Traffic Engineer
reads: "the proposed project will not have a significant traffic impact on the City's circulation
system; a traffic study is not required."
Planning Director Koontz added that when the original General Plan was completed, there
was an Environmental Impact Report attached to it, and the build out of the entire City was
reviewed as well as the maximum density with the traffic impacts. Since we were not
around when that had taken place, when the traffic study was done, they sized the streets
on the Circulation Element to address those particular issues.
Debbie Burrows
22954 Victoria Street
Mrs. Burrows had a question with regard to how much will the condominiums cost, how
long have the developers owned the piece of property and what does the City get out of the
project, and what are the projections the City will earn as far as taxes and school taxes.
Chair Wilson replied that as far as the project being a residential project, so in so far as
taxes are concerned, each individual homeowner will have to pay basic property taxes.
The majority of the taxes will end up with the State. The City will get a very nice project in
return. The minimal fees that the city will receive will be with regard to plan check fees and
application fees.
Planning Director Koontz replied that standard impact fees will be incurred to the City for
the project.
Commissioner Comstock added that the school district charges $650.00 per unit for school
impact fees.
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Chair Wilson concurred and said that the fee was a standard school fee. It is a state
mandated school fee. Any residential project is set up as mandated school fee.
Mrs. Burrows wanted to know if the Staff took into account the traffic that will impact Grand
Terrace because of the Spring Mountain Ranch homes.
Chair Wilson agreed with Mrs. Burrows with regard to the traffic impact with the Riverside
County Project. It was suggested that the only way that the City can actually deal with'the
project on a regional basis was to legally set up a war fund that we could oppose portions
of the traffic traveling into certain areas. As far as the traffic impact that we are specifically
dealing with here is minimal compared to what is being built regionally.
Chair Wilson invited the applicant to answer questions for the Commission, and asked Mr.
Gerold how long he has owned the property.
Chris Gerold-NBD Development
1726 Manhattan Beach Blvd- Manhattan Beach
Mr. Gerold reported that at current the development company does not own it, but rather
Mr. Heyming, who was the previous applicant for the apartment complex owns it and NBD
Development is currently in escrow to purchase the property from Mr. Heyming.
Vice Chair Addington recalled and asked the civil engineer that the previous applicant was
asked to bring further information with regard to drainage for the property, and did he
provide information about the drainage capacity of De Berry Street.
Dennis Stafford
Mc Keever Engineering
647 N. Main Street-Riverside
Mr. Stafford replied that the drainage study that was performed shows the majority of site
draining westerly to Reed Street then south and west along DeBerry Street. Street
capacity calculations were performed on both streets and the street capacity is adequate to
carry the flows that currently exist and the flows that will be added about 600 feet west of
the site into a master planned storm drain. The study was performed by Bill McKeever.
Chair Wilson asked with regard to the parking count, how would it be effected in relation to
converting the proposed den space into a bedroom, how would it affect the parking count to
the project.
Associate Planner Lampe replied that there would have to be some comparison'done with
other jurisdictions to see if they may have a higher parking requirement for three bedroom
units or more.
Mr. Stafford reported that the proposed parking requirement is actually twice over the City's
requirement as presented. With additional guest parking scattered throughout the project.
Chair Wilson asked the applicant's why the fire department does not allow turf block.
Mr. Stafford replied that some agencies choose to allow or not to allow it. The San
Bernardino County Fire Department prefers to have a full driveway access rather than turf
block.
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Mr. Gerold wanted to let Commissioner Comstock know that the current school fee for
commercial is at $3.05 per square foot which amounts to $5100 per unit. The fees that are
paid to the City as part of the application are in relation to sewer impact, plan check and
permits. We will also have to pay for sewer capacity and water capacity fees and will
amount to $300,000.
Vice Chair Addington asked what the City Engineer's opinion was on DeBerry carrying
additional 20 plus CFS coming out of the project.
Planning Director Koontz replied that the building official had no concern with the project.
Debbie Burrows
22954 Victoria Street
Mrs. Burrows feels that Mr. Koontz replying with each agency that has "No concerns" does
not make her feel very comfortable.
Chair Wilson explained to Mrs. Burrows the Reviewing Agency process in which the
agency does not respond, then it is assumed that the agency has no comment, hence no
concerns with the project. Should the agency write back with concerns, they will specify
what an applicant will be required of. These letters are included in the meeting packet and
are available for public review at the City Hall counters.
Chair Wilson closed the public participation and brought the item back to the Commission
for review and comment.
Commissioner Bidney asked if the letter of concern that was received from the Gage Canal
Company has been addressed with regard to curb and gutter for water flow.
Associate Planner Lampe replied that there is a condition that was applied to the project
that it is the applicant's responsibility to meet with the Gage Canal Company to resolve any
issues that have been addressed in their letter.
Vice Chair Addington commented that he likes the project and appreciates the fact that the
density of units has been decreased compared to the previous apartment project that was
denied.
MOTION PC-16-2004: Vice Chair Addington made a motion to approve SA-04-
09, SA-04-10, TTM-04-02 and E-04-04.
Commissioner Comstock seconded the motion.
MOTION VOTE
PC-16-2004: Approved 5-0-0-0
5. CUP-04-08: Request for time to operate an existing K&M Raceway for
model racing cars be extended and that the days and
hours to operate the Raceway be expanded.
APPLICANT: Extreme RPM/K&M Raceway c/o Bobby Haney
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LOCATION: 22474 Barton Road, Suite A
RECOMMENDATION: Open the public hearing, receive the Staff report and
testimony, close the hearing and approve the Resolution
calling for the approval of CUP-04-08 subject to the
recommended conditions of approval.
Associate Planner Lampe presented his staff report to the Commission. The
applicant wishes to continue on with their operation, and also to expand the current
number of days that they are allowed to operate along with the expansion of
operating hours. A letter of intent has been included in the staff report to expand the
hours of operation.
In June of 2003, the Commission approved an additional year to operate the facility
along with additional hours. At current, the applicant is not allowed to operate on
Mondays, Tuesday, and Thursdays.
Mr. Haney would like to be able to operate from 4PM to 8PM, on Mondays,
Tuesdays, and Thursdays. These hours would be used for practice sessions only.
Practice sessions would not include a public address system or racing.
On the weekend days when he will be allowed to be open, including Fridays, he is
asking that the weekend hours to be 10AM to 10:30PM. The applicant is requesting
this because many of his customers are requesting that the track be opened for an
extended period of time.
The raceway consists of about one third of an acre and is located south of Britton
Way,-north of Barton Road and just west of Mt. Vernon Avenue. The site is located.
in the Barton Road Specific Plan area with commercial uses to the east and south
and a proposed commercial site to the north which has not been developed as yet.
And farther to the north is the convalescent hospital.
The most sensitive land use is the single family residences on the east side of Mt.
Vernon. Access is provided to the site a driveway off of Barton Road through the
two commercial buildings to the south. And a driveway off of Britton Way serves for
the raceway as well.
Our original presentation was approved by the City Council in 1990. The Planning
Commission has approved the Conditional Use Permit thereafter about every two
years. In June of 2003, a very detailed presentation was provided to the
Commission to outline that the staff had gone out to the site several times with a
noise meter to make sure that the applicant complied with the conditions of noise not
exceeded over 55 decibels in the front yards of the houses on the east side of Mt.
Vernon. Based on the conclusions from the noise meter that was borrowed from the
health department, the applicant did comply with the requirement in terms of the
level of noise.
There were some conditions-that still hadn't been met where their use permit would
be granted for no more than a year to continue the operation. That application
expired in May of this year and staff is proposing to extend the conditional use of the
raceway.
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Many of the conditions that were imposed by the Commission over the years, dealt
with the appearance of the race track in which the buildings were painted and the
parking lot paved and landscaping and irrigation. Based on the inspections of the
site over the year, the applicant has complied with the requirements. There have
been additional conditions with regard to the lighting of the track. Although there
were no complaints received regarding the lighting, there is a provision in the zoning
code that all commercial lighting must be shielded from the residential areas. At this
time the applicant has provided some shielding of the lighting.
The site was inspected in January of 2004, in which a letter was filed that there were
still some requirements that the applicant hadn't met. The applicant has been
cooperative and has completed the items outlined in the letter. The staff had not
received any complaints with regard to noise within the past year.
It is staffs opinion that the applicant has been operating in compliance with the
conditions related to the closing times and noise levels otherwise there would have
been complaints issued to the City. There was one gentleman that spoke the year
previous with regard to the noise levels. Staff tried to contact this gentleman without
success.
The staff is making a recommendation to approve another year of operation of the
remote control racing facility. The recommendation to extend the hours has also
included a condition that any session before 3:30PM should only be used as a
practice session, and not as a race sessions.
Associate Planner Lampe concluded his report.
Vice Chair Addington asked that in January of this year, there were some conditions:
that were not met. Have the conditions been met since January.
Associate Planner replied that condition Number One was to obtain an electrical
permit for electrical repairs. The applicant did obtain an electrical permit and that
condition was met. Condition Two was to irrigate the provided landscaping in which
is has been met. The overflow parking has not been utilized because business
demands has not required that the overflow parking be used. Lastly, the shielding
on the lighting was completed.
Commissioner Comstock asked if one of the residents across the street from the
race track did have a complaint, what the process would entail.
Associate Planner Lampe replied that in the past, the applicant would be contacted
via letter, and should the applicant not be able to comply with the conditions, then
the item would come back before the Commission to where the permit would then be
revoked.
Commissioner Whitley wanted clarification with regard to the gas powered cars and
that they must cease operation one hour before closing time.
Associate Planner Lampe confirmed that is what the conditions read.
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Vice Chair Addington asked if there were any other conditions that have been
changed other than the requested time schedule.
Associate Planner Lampe replied that the conditions show the expansion of hours,
and there is a provision about the NPDES Requirements. Other than what has
presented, there have been no other additions or changes.
Chair Wilson opened up the public participation portion of the meeting.
Bobby Haney-Applicant
28111 Eucalyptus Highland
Mr. Haney stated that he has owned the business for three years, and was told that
it would be a very difficult battle to keep the business running and prosperous. He
enjoys working with the young adults and feels that he spends more time at the
raceway and feels that he has become a mentor to the young adults that come and
race at the facility.
Mr. Haney would like to extend his hours because his customers especially parents
were requesting that he extend the hours to 4PM that way kids will. be able to go
home .and do their homework and chores before they come to the racetrack. Mr.
Haney wants to keep his weekend hours beginning at 10AM on those days, he
would. really like the hours extended for Friday nights, so that the participants will
have more time to set up before racing. Mr. Haney does not want morning hours
during the week for fear of kids wanting to possibly ditch school to go to the
racetrack.
Mr. Haney expressed that he plans on staying strict on the kids that come and race
cars. He does not want his business to become a hang out where some kids would
want to smoke and loiter.
Commissioner Comstock asked the Applicant if it would make a difference if he
would start at 10AM on Sundays rather than 9AM.
Mr. Haney agreed. He is not very concerned with the morning hours. He does not
mind starting at 10AM rather than 9AM.
Don Smith
Mt. Vernon Avenue
Over the last year, Mr. Smith feels that he has not had to speak to Mr. Haney about
the noise level. Mr. Smith feels that the noise has decreased because Mr. Haney
knew that his,permit to run the track-was up for renewal.
Mr. Smith reported that he did invite Mr. Lampe to come into his residence and listen
to the race from inside of the home and in the back yard. Mr. Smith wanted to ask
Commissioner Bidney since he was real estate broker if the value of his home would
decrease because of the noise coming from the race track.
Commissioner Bidney advised him that he would have to make a full disclosure of
the race track.
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Mr. Smith had a concern with the race track closing at 10:00 seemed feasible r
because that is about the time he goes to bed and likes to leave the windows open.
Because of the racing noise, he cannot do this.
Chair Addington asked staff about Mr. Smith's concerns, and his visit to Mr. Smith's
home.
Associate Planner Lampe replied that over one year ago, he visited the property and
agreed that the racing could be heard, however, the noise meter did not read over
55 decibels in the residence.
Vice Chair Addington asked staff when the Noise Element of the General Plan was
completed, a chart was provided showing how the decibels related to what can he
heard and what would be considered loud and what was considered normal as well
as the background noise for the area.
Associate Planner Lampe replied that the background noise is the traffic from Mt.
Vernon Avenue. While taking readings for the racetrack, there were instances
where certain types of vehicles that had modified exhaust systems would drown out
the noise from the raceway. The traffic noise far exceeded the noise coming from
the raceway.
Chair Wilson asked if the railroad noise at any given time measured above 55
decibels near the raceway.
Associate Planner Lampe replied that the traffic on Mt. Vernon measured above 65
decibels, but no measurement was taken with regard to the railroad. No complaints
` were ever made over the course of the year with regard to the raceway.
Debbie Burrows
22954 Victoria Street
Mrs. Burrows claims that she began racing at the racetrack in 1992. She had
witnessed many owners and agreed that it is difficult to keep the racetrack profitable.
Although the vehicles cause noise, there are a number of business in the area that
stay open later than the racetrack, thereby causing traffic noise. When the proposed
Sav On is built, won't the drive thru window cause noise as well?
Chair Wilson answered Mrs. Burrows, by explaining that the Ordinance is required to
be followed with regard to not exceed 55 decibels.
Chair Wilson brought the item back to the Commission for discussion and action.
MOTION PC-17-2004: Commissioner Comstock made a motion to approve
CUP-04-08.
Commissioner Whitley seconded the motion with the
change in the resolution to start at 10AM.
Commissioner Comstock concurred.
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MOTION VOTE
PC-17-2004: Approved 51-0-0
Vice Chair Addington voting No
!' ADJOURN SITE AND ARCHITECTURE REVIEW BOARD/PLANNING
_. COMMISSION MEETING 8:50 PM
CONVENE PUBLIC WORKSHOP SESSION
• Information to Commissioners
Planning Director Koontz reported that the next Planning Commission meeting will
include the re-election of the Chairman and Vice Chairman.
The Outdoor Adventures Center Hearing for the City Council has not been decided as
yet, the next City Council meeting will include a discussion item as to when it would be
possible to have a full quorum for the Outdoor Adventures Center Public Hearing.
• Information from Commissioners
Commissioner Whitley wanted to know the status of the proposed Sav On.
Planning Director Koontz reported that the Planning Department received
construction plans.
Chair Wilson wanted to compliment the staff with the improvements that were
done on Mt. Vernon Avenue, but he was concerned with the striping.
Planning Director Koontz replied that it was going to be changed.
Chair Wilson wanted to make .the staff aware of the left hand turn into
Brentwood Avenue needs a turn lane. He has witnessed many vehicles
almost getting rear ended at that intersection.
ADJOURN PUBLIC WORKSHOP SESSION 8:50 PM
NEXT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TO BE HELD ON AUGUST 19, 2004
Respectfully Submitted, proved E
Gary Koontz, Planing Director Doug Wilson, Chairman
Planning Commission
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