06/15/1995GRAND TERRACE PLANNING COMMISSION
+` MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING
JUNE 15, 1995
The regular meeting of the Grand Terrace Planning Commission was called to order at the
Grand Terrace Civic Center, 22795 Barton Road, Grand Terrace, California on June 15, 1995
at 7:00 p.m. by Chairman Jimmy Sims.
PRESENT: Jimmy Sims, Chairman
Matthew Addington, Commissioner
LeeAnn Garcia, Commissioner
Moire Huss, Commissioner
Fran Van Gelder, Commissioner
Maria C. Muett, Associate Planner
Pat Peterson, Community Development Secretary
ABSENT: Doug Wilson, Vice -Chairman
Ray Munson, Commissioner
PLEDGE: Matthew Addington, Commissioner
6:45 P.M. CONVENED PUBLIC WORKSHOP SESSION
Associate Planner addressed Commission regarding status of the budget for next
fiscal year. Although preliminarily approved there is still another City Council
meeting on June 22 for final review.
General Plan Task Force will make progress report to Planning Commission on
July 6, seeking their comments.
Community Development Director will appear in court on June 16, for
arraignment on the Larry Halstead code enforcement case. Counsel for Mr.
Halstead has requested a continuance to June 30.
General discussion regarding microphone volume and transcription difficulties.
7:00 p.m. ADJOURNED PUBLIC WORKSHOP SESSION
7:00 p.m. CONVENED PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING/SITE AND
ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD
PUBLIC PARTICIPATION: None.
ITEM #1
PLANNING COMIVIISSION MEETING MINUTES - JUNE 1, 1995
Chairman Sims pointed out that on page 3 of minutes, there is an entry that applicant,
Ali Yasin addressed the Commission, however the minutes do not reflect what he stated.
Associate Planner agreed this will be done.
Associate Planner advised Commission there have been some recent changes made to
page 7.
1. Paragraph 6; Addition to Commissioner Garcia's remarks that this was
accepted as re -wording of condition #1.
2. Paragraph 7; Added to Commissioner Addington's comments that this was
accepted by the Commission and Director.
3. Paragraph 8; Director suggested an additional sentence that this was
accepted provided the HOP permit procedure is only required once to test
performance of the HOP permittee.
Commissioner Huss commented that on page 2, Commissioner Van Gelder made the
motion instead of her. And on page 7, at the top, she felt it was a comment by
Commissioner Garcia, as Commissioner Huss did not agree with the wording of the
definition of "employee".
Chairman Sims expressed concern that there are portions lacking in the minutes.
Associate Planner and Chairman Sims agreed minutes of June 1, should be tabled until
the Planning Commission meeting July 6, with review of June 15 minutes.
Commissioner Garcia suggested Staff request a summary statement of agreements for
clarification purposes to be sure there is consensus among all members.
Chairman Sims asked if there is anything omitted from the minutes which will affect
what Commissioners will be looking at tonight. (no response from Commission
members)
MOTION
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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES - JUNE 1, 1995
Motion by Chairman Sims to table the minutes of June 1, 1995 to the next regularly
scheduled meeting.
Seconded by Commissioner Addington.
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Commissioner Van Gelder asked if the motions are summarized for the minutes.
Associate Planner said we do not do verbatim nor action minutes. We do summary
minutes. Some discussion items may be omitted, however the actual consensus on major
issues is reflected.
MOTION
VOTE
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Motion carried. 5-0-2-0. Vice -Chairman Wilson and Commissioner Munson absent.
ITEM #2
Z-95-03/E-95-07
CITY OF GRAND TERRACE
AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO MUNICIPAL CODE CHAPTER 5.06
HOME OCCUPATION PERMIT PROCEDURES AND CRITERIA.
Associate Planner summarized the report of meeting of June 1st Planning Commission
workshop, on this proposal to study the feasibility of the Home Occupation Permit
Procedures. The Planning Commission's discussion items and consensus agreed upon
topics have been incorporated in the now -proposed amendments and ordinance. An
amended page 5 supersedes the previous page 5 in their packets. It has been re -worded
to correctly reflect June 1 discussions. The Negative Declaration and formal proposal
of the amended code incorporating Commission's consensus statement is also before the
Commission. This concludes staff report.
Commissioner Garcia asked who suggested the wording for the definition of "employee".
Associate Planner said it is based on comments from Commission, with direction by the
City Attorney, John Harper. Commissioners Garcia and Addington are not satisfied with
the definition of "employee" as suggested in the proposed amendment.
7:15 P.M. OPENED PUBLIC HEARING - NO PARTICIPATION.
7:15 P.M. CLOSED PUBLIC HEARING
Commissioner Addington commented that on page 4, item A is defined under 5.06.010a,
"office uses such as contracting and consulting with the residence is used for the sole
purpose of receiving mail, telephone and bookkeeping". He said this wording is
confusing. Chairman Sims asked staff the intent of using the phrase "the sole".
Associate Planner stated she reviewed ordinances from other cities and that specific
wording appeared in those ordinances. Commissioner Garcia asked if part of the intent
is to preclude meetings held at the home. Staff answered in the affirmative.
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MOTION
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Motion by Commissioner Addington that item A of 5.06.010a be amended to read as
follows: "office uses, such as contracting and consulting, when the residence is used for
purposes of receiving mail, telephone calls and bookkeeping", eliminating the words "the
sole".
Seconded by Chairman Sims.
MOTION
VOTE
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Motion carried. 5-0-2-0. Vice -Chairman Wilson and Commissioner Munson absent.
Commissioner Addington pointed out that a long discussion took place about page 5, the
terms "sub -contractor" or "sub -consultant". On item A, 5.06.040 the second and third
paragraphs were of concern. In his opinion the third paragraph should be stricken and
the second paragraph should read "in the case of sub -consultants and sub -contractors who
are not members of the household, may not perform any duties or services on the
premises." He felt the letter of agreement is too complicated and harsh, and that it
should be written in a simplified form. He suggested simply stating "they can't work
there if they do not live at the residence. "
Staff pointed out the 6-month self -monitoring has been deleted from the current proposal.
Chairman Sims re -stated the intent of the second paragraph: It would require the HOP
applicant to provide a letter to the City guaranteeing outside employees, sub -contractors
or sub -consultants will not be accessing the home site. The third paragraph means if
they do have sub -contractors or sub -contractors there would be an additional approval
required in connection with the business license (pro -rated). He asked what the
procedure would be if they violate the letter of commitment. Staff explained this would
be a tool for code enforcement. Staff explained that sub -contractors and sub -consultants
have never been allowed to provide services for an HOP permittee so this would allow
the City to maintain some degree of control while still offering this new flexibility. The
annual check on that new HOP would occur if HOP letters are sent out to neighbors and
wait two weeks to see if we receive any negative impact responses.
Chairman Sims said that this process seems redundant, or is there something missing in
the current code enforcement in relationship to this HOP permit. Associate Planner
explained that it could be similar to a CUP that is signed acknowledging an
understanding of the conditions of the project, benefit to the City and applicant.
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Commissioner Garcia related her personal experience in applying for an HOP and
explained she did receive and sign a list of guidelines. Associate Planner explained this
condition would be aimed specifically at those HOP's with sub -contractors and sub -
consultants.
Commissioner Garcia said it is inconsistent to say "the ONLY people who can work for
an HOP are members of the household who reside in the residence. " A sub -contractor
does work for the business. Commissioner Addington agreed.
Commissioner Van Gelder was concerned with monitoring of the letter of agreement
which is one more thing someone will have to monitor and deal with when the
complaints do come in. She agreed with Commissioner Addington that it would be
simpler to state who can work for the HOP.
Commissioner Huss said she prefers the letter of intent signed, acknowledging an
understanding by the applicant that sub -contractors and sub -consultants will not be
allowed to come to the home. She felt if the applicant were required to handwrite it in
their own words it would have more impact on them. She urged aggressive preventive
measures in lieu of code enforcement actions after the neighbors are already upset.
Associate Planner explained this would make the HOP applicant responsible for the sub-
contractors and sub -consultants.
Commissioner Van Gelder asked if the "commitment letter" would be prepared by staff
or would the applicants write it themselves? Staff indicated there has been no decision
as yet.
Commissioner Addington noted that in response to Commissioner Huss' comment
regarding code enforcement being complaint -driven, he felt at least half of the City
ordinances are complaint -driven. In speaking with attorneys he has found that is a
common procedure. With regard to the letter of agreement, he asked staff if developers
on projects are required to sign conditions of approval. He feels requiring a letter of
intent is too strict.
Staff reiterated that we want to give additional flexibility in allowing subs but that we
may need to address this group. There are many categories (like landscaping) who will
never go to the home because they only go to job locations.
Chairman Sims said he felt the desire is to make it more flexible under certain conditions
to allow activities to happen from outside the home. We don't want to create the
situation where there is an influx of people who don't live in the home to disturb the
neighbors. The message we want to put out is that we will allow you to have other
people who don't live in your house to come in and facilitate and propagate your business
so that you can be successful, but you have to agree in writing to us that you are not
going to allow them to come in and disrupt the neighborhood. Possibly the term
"agreement" is too formal. A commitment letter is not as formal as an agreement.
Since we are trying to build relationships with people -we're not trying to push down the
small guy as compared to the big developer. The intent is to help people in these tough
economic times to run the business out of the home. He suggested changing the wording
instead of eliminating paragraphs to preserve the intent.
Commissioner Addington suggested striking the 3 paragraphs and replace with: "The
only people that can work on the premises for a HOP are the members who reside on the
premises and in the case of sub -contractors or sub -consultants who are not members of
the household, they may not perform any duties or services on the premises. "
MOTION
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Motion by Commissioner Addington to amend page 5, of the amendment proposal,
Section 5.06.040a, by striking the proposed first three underlined bolded paragraphs and
replace them with one paragraph which states, "The only people that can work on the
premises for a HOP are the members of the household who reside on the premises, and
in the case of sub -contractors and sub -consultants who are not members of that
household, they may not perform any duties or services on the premises of the HOP. "
Seconded by Commissioner Van Gelder.
Chairman Sims clarified that Commissioner Addington's proposal would eliminate the
first three underlined proposed paragraphs under section A, and replace it with the above
wording.
MOTION
VOTE
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Motion carried. 4-1-2-0. Chairman Sims voted no. Vice -Chairman Wilson and
Commissioner Munson absent.
Commissioner Huss asked for clarification regarding the HOP renewal/review process.
Chairman Sims said that proposed review language had been eliminated by the last
motion which carried. He suggested she could make a motion to add that language.
Commissioner Huss said she feels it is a good idea to do the one -time -only re -notice and
review process with the neighbors at the end of the initial 12 months.
Commissioner Addington asked if HOP's are required to have a business license. He
suggested that if there is an enforcement problem we can elect not to renew the business
license. Staff explained that all HOP's are required to have a business license and
through previous research we have determined that we may not necessarily choose not
to renew the business license because it is under a different law altogether.
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Chairman Sims asked staff if all HOP's are required to have a business license, are all
business licenses renewed every year, and are the businesses evaluated to determine of
the City has received complaints? Staff explained that HOP's are required to have
business licenses. Business licenses are renewed every year. There is no complaint
review process in place where the surrounding neighbors are mailed a letter prior to
renewal of business licenses. Staff pointed out that the HOP approval process is
currently at one-time process and not connected with the annual business permit renewal
process. Staff told the Commission the paragraph just eliminated in connection with the
business license was put there in an attempt to evaluate if there had been any problems
with the HOP (sub -contractors and/or sub -consultants). It is the only means of getting
communication back on that conditional approval if there had been some impact on the
neighborhood. This review process would tie into the business permit renewal process
only one time and only in the case where sub -contractors and sub -consultants are working
with the HOP. Chairman Sims said if we want to tie the HOP into the business license,
the staff -proposed paragraph doesn't do it. Different wording will be needed. We want
to be able to address if there are violations or if people are unhappy that it's there. Code
enforcement does not necessarily do that unless there is a complaint.
Commissioner Garcia shared her experience in setting up a business license program for
a newly incorporated community. They had a purely revenue -generating business license
program, as are 80-90% of all business license programs. The fact a business license
is issued does not mean the business is to code. There is no regulatory element to the
business license process. If there is to be any regulatory "teeth" in the HOP beyond the
one time initial review it needs to create it in this ordinance otherwise it will not exist.
Chairman Sims felt the need to attach the review process to the business license is
irrelevant because there is no code enforcement attached to it.
Commissioner Addington brought up the idea of attaching a two-year expiration date to
the HOP at date of issuance. Staff said that may not apply to HOP's but we can do some
research. The HOP currently never gets reevaluated as long as there are no changes in
the type of business, owner and address. Any of these changes would trigger a
reevaluation.
Commissioner Huss brought up the fact that neighbors may be directing their complaints
to the wrong agency (i.e. they may be calling the Sheriff's Dept.) instead of contacting
the City to initiate code enforcement action, so we may not be aware there are problems.
She recently read an article in the local paper by a resident who felt complaint -driven
code enforcement is horrible way to run the City. She agreed with the citizen, and
suggested we start to review at least the new HOP's.
Associate Planner clarified letters would be sent out to the contiguous property owners
as part of the one-year review as our outreach. The intent is not to add something more
cumbersome but because this is a new segment to allow some flexibility we need to make
some evaluations.
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Chairman Sims inquired of staff if it is the intent, in the case of sub -contractors and sub -
consultants attached to the HOP, to place a conditional approval on a yearly basis so that
an evaluation could be conducted sending out letters to the surrounding community to
determine if they have experienced problems during the past year and attempt to create
a situation where they would be denied their permit?
Staff responded the intent is to evaluate the situation by reaching the contiguous property
owners notifying them of the type of business and that the applicant is applying for a
temporary HOP and in one year they would be reevaluated to see if there has been any
negative impact.
Commissioner Van Gelder asked if this evaluation would take place only at the end of
the first year. Staff responded yes.
MOTION
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Motion by Commissioner Huss to amend the HOP procedure to perform the re -notice
procedure at the first renewal of the business license to reevaluate the HOP in the case
where sub -contractors and sub -consultants who are not members of the household. This
would be attached as paragraph to 5.06.040a.
Motion died for lack of second.
Commissioner Garcia asked staff what is the anticipated problem with sub -contractors.
Staff responded in the past we have seen problems with contractors and real estate
persons. The in and out vehicle activity has been problematic in the past.
Commissioner Garcia asked if HOP's will be required to list sub -contractors to ensure
that those sub -contractors will be required to pay for business licenses. This can
generate a significant amount of additional revenue. Staff responded that we currently
require licenses for sub -contractors through our permit procedures.
Chairman Sims asked about the insertion definition of "employee" in section 5.06.010a.
Commissioner Addington asked where the word "employee" is found in the HOP text.
A review of the amended text did not reveal the word "employee", since it was already
removed by Commissioner Addington's motion.
Commissioner Addington suggested in the definition of "employee" that after the word
"location" add "and includes sub -consultants". This will accommodate those who work
off site. Chairman Sims said since the word "people" has replaced "employees" in
section 5.06.040, a motion must be made to delete the "employee" definition also.
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MOTION
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Motion by Commissioner Addington to delete the "employee" definition as an insertion
of section 5.06.010a.
Seconded by Chairman Sims.
MOTION VOTE
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Motion carried. 5-0-2-0. Vice Chairman Wilson and Commissioner Munson absent.
Commissioner Addington commended staff for doing a good job writing Section 5.06.080, and
it gives anyone ample opportunity for appeal.
Chairman Sims brought the Commission's attention to the vehicle policy criteria in Attachment
B. He asked staff if extensive changes are anticipated from the City Attorney. Associate
Planner explained this is intended to be merely a policy such as the overhead deck policy. He
City Attorney just has not yet finished his review and made final comments.
MOTION
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Z-95-03/E-95-07
Motion by Commissioner Garcia to approve Z-95-03 and E-95-07 as amended.
Seconded by Commissioner Addington.
MOTION
VOTE
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Motion carried. 5-0-2-0. Vice -Chairman Wilson and Commissioner Munson absent.
Commissioner Garcia advised staff and Commission she will be unable to attend the August 17,
1995 meeting. She will be attending the Economic Development conference in Long Beach.
Staff advised Commission there was a good turn out at the Grand Terrace Days Parade. Various
civic groups were represented on the community shuttle, including Vice -Chairman Doug Wilson
and Task Force member JoAnn Johnson.
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Commissioner Van Gelder explained she regretted that she could not participate in the parade
on behalf of the Commission however, she had a previously scheduled personal engagement
involving her granddaughter's musical production.
8:40 P.M. ADJOURNED PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
NEXT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TO BE HELD ON JULY 69 1995.
Respectfully submitted, Approved by,
Maria Muett Jimmy W
Associate Planner Planning 1
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