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12/07/1995O GRAND TERRACE PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING DECEMBER 7,1995 The regular meeting of the Grand Terrace Planning Commission was called to order at the Grand Terrace Civic Center, 22795 Barton Road, Grand Terrace, California on December 7, 1995 at 7:00 p.m. by Chairperson, Jimmy W. Sims. PRESENT: Jimmy W. Sims, Chairperson Matthew Addington, Commissioner LeeAnn Garcia, Commissioner Moire Huss, Commissioner Ray Munson, Commissioner Fran Van Gelder, Commissioner Doug Wilson, Commissioner Patrizia Materassi, Community Development Director Maria Muett, Senior Planner Larry Mainez, Planning Technician Pat Peterson, Community Development Department Secretary 6:30 P.M. CONVENED PUBLIC WORKSHOP SESSION Information/comments from commissioners Commissioner Garcia announced that she is now First Vice -President for Community Development Department for the League of California Cities. She will be working on the next Planner's Institute which is scheduled for March 20 through 22, 1996 in Long Beach. Information/comments from staff • Community Development Director announced that SANBAG has approved a $370,000 grant from Article 3 funds for street improvements, bicycle lanes and staging areas on Barton Rd., south on Mt. Vernon and east on Main Street. She said a grant for ISTEA funds for landscaping is still being pursued. The City has received the compressed natural gas (CNG) van through the CalTrans alternative fuels program. The City will be developing vanpool routes for City staff. The van can also be used by the child care center as well as group excursions. c Community Development Director said the City Manager will present information to Commissioners regarding the City Rehab Housing Project at the January 4, 1996 workshop. She said the workshop will need to begin at 6:15 p.m. on that day. The code enforcement workshop which began November 16, 1995 will appear again as an agenda item on February 1, 1996. SA-92-11R Staff Request for Planning Commission support of compromise reached with applicant related to project block wall at 22696-22698 McClarren. Director and Senior Planner presented overhead transparencies and photos of the physical fence/wall layout for Commissioners. Commissioner Addington and Chairman Sims said they could not support staffs recommended compromise with the applicant regarding the type of building material. Since no resolution during workshop there will be further discussion when agenda item #5 is heard. Senior Planner, Maria Muett, announced she has tendered her resignation which will be effective January 31, 1996. 7:10 P.M. ADJOURNED PUBLIC WORKSHOP SESSION 7:10 P.M. CONVENED SITE AND ARCHITECTURE REVIEW BOARD/PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING * Call to Order * Pledge of Allegiance by Commissioner Matthew Addington * Roll Call * Public address to Commission shall be limited to three minutes unless extended by the Chairperson. Should you desire to make a longer presentation, please make written request to be agendized to the Community Development Director. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION: None. 0 ITEM#1 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES - NOVEMBER 16,1995 MOTION PCM-95-53 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES - NOVEMBER 16,1995 Motion by Commissioner Van Gelder to approve Planning Commission meeting minutes of November 16, 1995. Motion seconded by Commissioner Munson. MOTION VOTE PCM-95-53 Motion carried. 7-0-0-0. ITEM #2 SA-95-09 J. BARNEY KARGER AN APPLICATION FOR SITE AND ARCHITECTURE REVIEW TO EXPAND TWO OVERHEAD DECKS AS PART OF A CARPORT/GARAGE CONVERSION FOR APARTMENTS. 22441/22451 DeSOTO STREET, GRAND TERRACE, CA Staff report presented by Maria Muett, Senior Planner. She explained the Community Development Director has the authority to approve carport conversions through the administrative process. The Director has approved the carport conversions with conditions. However this project requires Planning Commission approval because these conversions are actually extensions of overhead decks over garages. An extension of 160 square feet at each end of the building is proposed by applicant. Chairperson Sims asked about the requirement from Building and Safety to pave the "asphalt portion of the alley". Director explained all the new portion will need to meet code requirements, both zoning and building. She explained the Planning Commission can add additional conditions if they desire. Chairperson Sims asked if Director felt the inside dimensions of the garage of 9.5 feet in width will be sufficient. Director explained the dimensions will have to meet the code requirements. Further, he asked if Director had concerns about the garages being used for storage instead of the intended vehicle parking. Director said that is a concern. Hence, the condition requiring the garages be used to park only transportation vehicles only. Commissioner Van Gelder asked if there will be additional accesses created to the balcony areas. Director said there will be no additional balcony accesses. Commissioner Van Gelder asked Director how she plans to enforce the condition which requires minimisation of impact of noise, dust and traffic congestion. Director said applicant will submit a program plan and staff will monitor it. Immediate code enforcement will take place should there be any complaints. Vice Chairman Wilson asked Director what code she was referring to regarding garage widths. Director verified and said our city zoning code calls for inside dimensions of 20' x 20' for two vehicles and 10' x 20' for a single vehicle. She is not sure about the Uniform Building Code garage requirements; however the building official will ensure compliance. Vice Chairman Wilson stated that he thinks the Uniform Building Code does not have specific requirements and dimensions of 8.5' are too narrow. Director explained that these dimensions corresponded only to the entry garage door. Inside space will need to conform to our codes. Commissioner Huss endorsed the idea of garages vs. carports because of increased property value and decreased probability of auto theft and vandalism. 7:30 P.M. OPENED FOR PUBLIC HEARING BARNEY KARGER 11668 BERNARDO WAY GRAND TERRACE, CA 92313 He said the additional of garages in this apartment complex will decrease crime. He pointed out garages are required for new apartment construction. Also, with regard to the number of tenants and the number of vehicles each has, four families have one car each, one woman has no vehicle and three families may have two vehicles each. Chairperson Sims asked what the intended use of the decks above the garages. Applicant Karger said they are used as patios, sunbathing in the summer, barbecues and storage of bicycles. Each deck is accessed via a door in the upstairs unit by tenants living in that unit only. Chairperson Sims asked about the construction of the decks. Mr. Karger said there is currently 3/8" plywood which will be reinforced with another layer of 3/8" plywood. The new decks will be constructed of two layers of 3/8" plywood. Chairperson Sims asked Mr. Karger about the garage doors. He responded the doors will be sectional roll -up doors. Commissioner Van Gelder asked if the 7:00 a.m. construction start time will be observed. C 4 Applicant said yes. 7:40 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED MOTION PCM-95-54 SA-95-09 Motion made by Commissioner Munson to approve project. Motion seconded by Commissioner Huss. MOTION VOTE PCM-95-54 Motion carried. 7-0-0-0. ITEM #3 CUP-95-05/SA-95-11/E-95-13 CHRIST THE REDEEMER CATHOLIC CHURCH - THE ROMAN CATHOLIC BISHOP OF SAN BERNARDINO AN APPLICANT FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, SITE AND ARCHITECTURE REVIEW AND ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW OF A CHURCH OFFICE AND CLASSROOM/MEETING ROOM BUILDING. 12745 ORIOLE AVENUE, GRAND TERRACE, CA Staff report by Larry Mainez, Planning Technician. Upon staff review it was determined a negative declaration is required. 120 parking spaces will be provided (8 more than required by code). Commissioner Van Gelder asked for further explanation of condition #5. Larry said this condition refers to the set of conditions in the original CUP to approve the church in 1982. Those conditions are still in effect and enforceable. She also asked if one of the 120 new parking spaced could be designated as handicapped, thus providing two handicapped spaces. Larry said that is the intent. Another concern of Commissioner Van Gelder was the distance from classrooms to the restroom facilities. Her question was referred by Larry to the architect, Larry Vesely when he addressed the Commission later in the evening. Commissioner Huss asked about condition #4 referring to Riverside Highland Water Company's requirements. Chairperson Sims said the applicant would be responsible for improvements to install the required water main. Commissioner Huss asked Director if applicant is in agreement with the conditions to improve Oriole and Pico. Director said they will need to comply with all 5 conditions. Applicant is aware of the conditions and has not advised staff they disagree with any of the conditions. Vice Chairman Wilson said he is concerned about having a plot plan with no dimensions. Chairperson Sims said there are grading issues, set -back issues and draining issues which need to be addressed. The Planning Technician then presented another scaled plot plan with set -backs. Setbacks were red marked preliminarily, but were not incorporated onto Commissioners' plans. Chairperson Sims noted lack of definition in the drawing regarding perimeter walls. He said he was very uncomfortable with the drawing because he could not get dimensional presence from the drawing. He asked if there are any wall treatments to be dealt with at this meeting. Larry said there are currently no plans for walls. Director said we visited the site. The slope is mild, will continue to be landscaped, and was planned with no retention walls. She also said the street improvements currently required are those on Oriole only. When the church is expanded in a later development then the Pico improvements will be required. Director stated there is no code requirement for block walls among similar uses in this instance. Chairperson Sims asked if there are any security issues about that southeast comer of the property once the place is improved. Larry said he does not foresee security problems. There are currently no fences from the easterly property. Director suggested the possibility of having applicant submit a lighting plan. Commissioner Van Gelder suggested lighting around the building to deter vandalism. She said she also would like to see a condition to require bike racks. Vice Chairman Wilson asked what the slope ratio is as it does not appear on the plan. He asked Larry Vesely t address this concern later when he speaks. 8:00 P.M. OPENED FOR PUBLIC HEARING LARRY VESELY 22365 BARTON ROAD, SUITE 304 GRAND TERRACE, CA He introduced himself as the architect of the project. The slope ratio is 2:1 maximum. There is a three foot vertical elevation difference in the southeast corner of the project. He said no fences are currently proposed. The church is in agreement with all conditions but requested deferment of requirement 1, of Attachment A, the comments from Building and Safety. Request was made to defer these improvements, at the intersection of Oriole. Chairperson Sims asked the architect if the addition of more hard surfaces in this project will create a run-off problem. Mr. Vesely said the run-off will go toward the south and is being taken care of. Grading will need to be readdressed when church expands in the future. Commissioner Huss said she would like to see the improvements to provide curb and gutter on 6 Oriole at this time, instead of deferment. She said it is a dark, dangerous corner. It was a consensus of the Commission not to defer street improvements at Oriole. GLENN NICHOLS 12730 ORIOLE GRAND TERRACE, CA He said he has no objection to the project, but asked about the current parking vs. 120 proposed spaces. He said parking is a problem on Sunday mornings. He said he attended the Planning Commission meetings in 1982 and questioned the adequacy of proposed parking at that time. Since then it has proved to be a problem. Mr. Vesely said there were approximately 85 spaces originally so this is a substantial increase. Mr. Nichols said he is opposed to deferment of the Oriole street improvements. GARY ROBINSON 22145 DeBERRY GRAND TERRACE, CA Said he has spoken with Gene McMeans and the water main must be installed. He said he was there recently and people were parked in front of the church, but he was able to find a space in the parking lot. FATHER DONALD S. WEBBER 12770 ORIOLE GRAND TERRACE, CA Commissioner Van Gelder asked what age children will be using the classrooms. Father Webber said the ages will be pre-school through high school. She asked if the rooms will be used only Sunday morning. He said yes, but also during the week in the evening. She expressed concern about children arriving without parents at night. He said generally the children are brought by parents and do not arrive alone. When asked if he would object to a requirement of bike racks, he said he would not object. CORRINE ROBINSON 22145 DeBERRY GRAND TERRACE, CA She said she is youth minister leader. Regarding concern of the proximity of restrooms to the classrooms she said they were strategically placed near the proposed office for the purpose of supervision. She said she sees none of the junior and senior high aged children ride bicycles to the church. 7 Chairperson Sims asked Ms. Robinson if there are evening events at the church. She said there are meetings in the evening but children are brought by parents. The existing building has motion detector lights and there are parking lot lights also. There is currently a security system which is monitored by the sheriff's department. 8:20 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED MOTION PCM-95-55 Motion by Commission Van Gelder to include an additional condition of approval to provide four bike racks near the classroom/meeting room building. Motion seconded by Commissioner Huss. MOTION VOTE PCM-95-55 Motion carried. 6-1-0-0. Vice Chairman Wilson voted no. MOTION PCM-95-56 Motion by Commissioner Van Gelder to require motion detector lights on the new building. Seconded by Chairperson Sims for further discussion. He said he feels the main concern of the Commission is that the lights are actually installed for safety and security purposes. Director suggested the commission could require a lighting plan be submitted. Chairperson Sims suggested the motion be amended to require a lighting plan around the building to be reviewed by the Community Development Director. So moved by Commissioner Van Gelder and seconded by Chairperson Sims. MOTION VOTE PCM-95-56 Motion carried. 7-0-0-0. MOTION PCM-95-57 8 Motion by Commissioner Addington to approve project with additional conditions as amended by the Planning Commission. Motion seconded by Commissioner Van Gelder. MOTION VOTE PCM-95-57 Motion carried. 7-0-0-0. ITEM #4 SA-95-10 DR. CHRISTOPHER CHOO AN APPLICANT FOR SITE AND ARCHITECTURE REVIEW TO REMODEL AND EXPAND OFFICE BUILDING IN THE BARTON ROAD SPECIFIC PLAN AREA - SITE PLAN LAYOUT REVISIONS. 22675 BARTON ROAD, GRAND TERRACE, CA Staff report by Community Development Director. The site plan changes requested by the Planning Commission at the November 2, 1995 meeting were made. Parking spaces were re -located, the RV parking stall was eliminated, the bike and motorcycle parking area was moved and the traffic flow within the lot has been changed. She recommended when the final landscape plans are submitted by applicant, sometime within the next three years, the plans should reflect an official record of survey measurements. She recommended also the Planning Commission defer installation of the extra landscaping at the point of the property for three years. Chairperson Sims asked if Director is recommending the landscaping around the sign at the westerly corner of the property is to be deferred. Director said she is recommending deferment only of landscaping beyond what the code requires immediately located around the sign. Commissioner Addington suggested that condition #16 should be amended to read "shall" in place of "should". Director agreed. Commissioner Huss asked when the dental office will open. Director said it is currently in plan check at this time as per Planning Commission previous approval, however, there is no date set. Commissioner Van Gelder asked what part of the landscaping will now be done. Senior Planner, Maria Muett, said the bender boards to delineate grass from planter in the north area of the building and a planter area will be placed around the monument sign. In summary, reorganization of the current landscaping and in the current planters will be done now. The landscaping will be consistent with that of the median. The landscaping cost of extra landscaping requested by the Planning Commission is estimated at $3,000 to $8,000, which includes placement of a new drain and replumbing of the westerly point of the property. �— Commissioner Garcia said there is no wording on the conditions of approval to make the monument 2 sign and landscaping consistent with the median. 8:40 P.M. OPENED FOR PUBLIC HEARING DR. CHRISTOPHER CHOO 22675 BARTON ROAD GRAND TERRACE, CA He said he is very excited to get the project under way. He said he wants to make this very visible corner and aesthetically beautiful. He would like to defer the westerly point landscaping so that he can do the best job possible. He said he agrees with all of the recommendations. Chairperson Sims asked Dr. Choo what he is proposing to do around the monument sign. Dr. Choo said he does not know the details at this time. He wants planters around the building now but wants to defer the major landscaping suggested by the Planning Commission to a later time. Commissioner Van Gelder asked applicant if he could complete the landscaping in two years rather than three. Dr. Choo said he wants to do it as soon as possible, but in two years it will not be easy. Chairperson Sims asked if he would be willing to remove, at this time, the asphalt paving currently at the south side of the building and at the westerly point, and replace it with turf. Dr. Choo said his desire is to make this property as beautiful as possible at a reasonable expense. DOUG SCHULTZ 570 E. LACADENA DR. RIVERSIDE, CA Mr. Schultz is the project architect. He said one of the major problems with this site is that most of the water currently drains to that one drain site at the westerly property point. They actually need to tear up the existing landscaping at the site to see what can be done to relocate the new drainage system. This would have to be done in order to get an accurate cost estimate of the landscaping to be done at the point. The Dr. felt it is more important at this time to apply the used brick to the building face. The cost of this procedure is very expensive. Commissioner Garcia asked if the Commission were to agree to defer part of the landscaping as Dr. Choo is requesting exactly what will be done for landscaping. Mr. Schultz said the only thing to be postponed is modifying the drainage and building up a landscaping planter at the tip of the corner. The planter around the building will be landscaped. 9:00 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED MOTION PCM-95-57 10 Motion by Commissioner Addington to amend condition #16. In place of the word "should" substitute the word "shall". Motion seconded by Commissioner Van Gelder. Chairperson Sims suggested amending this condition to reflect deferment of landscaping only at the westerly point of the parcel. He felt site is too bare and needs more green. Suggested amendment accepted by Commissioner Addington and seconded by Commissioner Van Gelder. MOTION VOTE PCM-95-57 Motion carried. 7-0-0-0. MOTION PCM-95-58 Motion by Commissioner Addington to have asphalt removed at this time in the areas of all future landscaping (without deferment). Low maintenance turf and gravel to facilitate drainage may be installed. Second by Chairperson Sims for further discussion. He said the only designated landscaping area is at the nose/or point of the property. MOTION VOTE PCM-95-58 Motion carried. 6-1-0-0. Commissioner Huss voted no. MOTION PCM-95-59 Motion by Chairperson Sims regarding the area designated as "fenced future patio area" be modified to remove the asphalt and planted with low maintenance turf. Motion seconded by Commissioner Van Gelder. MOTION VOTE PCM-95-59 11 Motion carried. 5-1-1-0. Commissioner Huss voted no. Vice Chairman Wilson absent. MOTION PCM-95-60 Motion by Commissioner Garcia to amend the following to condition #3, "to use some of the common elements of existing planter and landscaping in the Palm Avenue median." Seconded by Chairperson Sims. MOTION VOTE PCM-95-60 Motion carried. 6-0-1-0. Vice Chairman Wilson absent. MOTION PCM-95-61 Motion by Commissioner Addington to approve SA-95-10 as amended. Seconded by Commissioner Munson. MOTION VOTE PCM-95-61 Motion carried. 6-0-1-0. Commissioner Wilson absent. 9:15 P.M. ADJOURNED FOR FIVE MINUTE BREAK 9:20 P.M. RECONVENED ITEM #5 SA-92-11R FRANK DRECHSLER AN APPLICATION TO AMEND CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL #18 AND #19 RELATED TO DUPLEX PROJECT BLOCK WALL 22696-22698 McCLARREN, GRAND TERRACE, CA Community Development Director explained this hearing is at the request of the applicant. The Planning Commission has the option of accepting or denying applicant's proposed amendments, amend conditions differently, or leave as is. Applicant has the right of appeal to the City Council. Condition #18 is proposed to be amended to substitute smooth block wall for the original loffelstein wall. Condition #19 can be amended to reflect a minimum of I F from back of the duplex to the wall. 12 There was a discussion among Director and commissioners regarding the layout and size of patios. The original approval back in 1993, and possible requirement of a planter between the patio and wall. Commission was not satisfied with applicant's amended proposal. 9:45 P.M. OPENED PUBLIC HEARING FRANK DRECHSLER 9140 EL AZUL CIRCLE FOUNTAIN VALLEY, CA He introduced himself as the owner of four duplexes on McClarren St. He plans to build four more duplexes which are the subject of this hearing . He said his property is well maintained. The proposed patios are 8' x 14', with 6' wooden fences between each unit. Commissioner Munson asked where there is green area in the proposed units. Mr. Drechsler said there will be green area in the front, on the sides and 3' on the sides in the back yard patio area. Chairperson Sims asked about the cost as a factor in this project. Mr. Drechsler said the loffelstein wall would cost him approximately $4 per foot more than the smooth block wall. Another factor is liability concern. He is concerned about people climbing on the wall and falling. Commissioner Huss agreed children always climb on walls. She would not want the loffelstein wall on her property or common area. She asked Mr. Drechsler if he would be willing to provide a 3' dirt space between the patio and wall. He responded yes, that would be possible. He said there will be grass in the back yards also on either side of the patio. 10:10 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED MOTION PCM-95-62 Motion by Chairperson Sims to amend condition #18, to add "Each unit's concrete patio will extend a maximum of 8' from the edge of the building and be 14' in length." Second by Commissioner Van Gelder. MOTION VOTE PCM-95-62 Motion carried. 5-1-1-0. Commissioner Addington voted no. Vice Chairman Wilson absent. 13 MOTION PCM-95-63 Motion by Commissioner Van Gelder to amend condition #19 by changing "8"'to 66 1111 9 . Second by Commissioner Huss. MOTION VOTE PCM-95-63 Motion carried. 5-1-1-0. Commissioner Addington voted no. Vice Chairman Wilson absent. MOTION PCM-95-64 Motion by Commissioner Huss to add a condition stating there will be wooden fences 6' high between each unit running from the building to the block wall. Seconded by Commissioner Van Gelder. MOTION VOTE PCM-95-64 Motion carried. 5-1-1-0. Commissioner Addington voted no. Vice Chairman Wilson absent. MOTION PCM-95-65 Motion by Commissioner Garcia to add a condition saying the common area will be planted with plant material of a climbing nature. Seconded by Commissioner Huss. MOTION VOTE PCM-95-65 Motion carried. 5-1-1-0. Commissioner Addington voted no. Vice Chairman Wilson absent. C 10:25 P.M. ADJOURNED SITE AND ARCHITECTURE REVIEW BOARD/PLANNING 14 COMMISSION MEETING NEXT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TO BE HELD ON JANUARY 4,1996. Respectfully submitted, Patrizia Materassi Community Development Director 12-16-95:pp\hc Approved by, I Jimmy W. ems Chairpersin, Planning Commission C:\OFFICE\WPWIMWPDOCS\PLANNING\MINUTES\12-07-95.min 15