11/21/1996GRAND TERRACE PLANNING COMMISSION
NIINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING
NOVEMBER 21, 1996
The regular meeting of the Grand Terrace Planning Commission was called to order at the Grand
Terrace Civic Center, 22795 Barton Road, Grand Terrace, California on November 21, 1996 at
7:00 p.m. by Chairman, Jimmy W. Sims.
6:20 P.M. CONVENED PART I OF PUBLIC WORKSHOP SESSION - IN CITY
MANAGER'S CONFERENCE ROOM UPSTAIRS
* 6:20 - 6:55 p.m.
PRESENT: Jimmy W. Sims, Chairperson
Fran Van Gelder, Vice -Chairperson
Matthew Addington, Commissioner
Moire Huss, Commissioner
Mary Trainor, Commissioner
Patrizia Materassi, Community Development Director
Pat Peterson, Community Development Department Secretary
ABSENT: Gerry Ellis, Commissioner
Doug Wilson, Commissioner
• Progress Report on Economic Development Research by Director Materassi
Pursuant to previous request by the Planning Commission Director Materassi said
she has been gathering information regarding possible alternative actions on the
subject of local economic development and revitalization. At the current time the
cost vs. benefits of actions are being evaluated:
- City becoming a member of CALED (California Association for Local
Economic Development)
Retain a consultant recommended by CALED to perform an economic base
analysis
- Development of surveys to determine values and needs of the community in
relation to retail. Downtown needs to reflect the community if it is to
prosper.
- Develop an economic development strategy to be incorporated into the
General Plan Economic Development Element and reflected in the City
Redevelopment Plan.
- Design an economic development program involving the following seven
actions:
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* support of Chamber of Commerce Business Development Committee;
* organize the larger local businesses in an effort to reinvest in Grand
Terrace;
* establish close rapport with CALED PAS which helps communities
meet economic development challenges;
* organize/encourage the organization of special events/activities in
"downtown" to increase business and encourage businesses to stay in
town;
* development of a City brochure to market the City. Mayor Matteson
recently suggested a business directory.
* develop a partnership between the business community, city
government and community.
* retain an artist to develop a rendering of the future "downtown"
vision
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• All Planning Commissioners present except Commission Ellis
* Call to Order
* Pledge of Allegiance led by Commissioner Trainor.
* Roll Call
* Public address to Commission shall be limited to three minutes unless extended by the
Chairman. Should you desire to make a longer presentation, please make written
request to be agendized to the Community Development Director.
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ITEM#1
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES - NOVEMBER 7, 1996
MOTION
PCM-96-65
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES - NOVEMBER 7, 1996
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Motion by Vice -Chairperson Van Gelder to approve Planning Commission Meeting minutes
of November 7, 1996.
Seconded by Commissioner Trainor
MOTION
VOTE
PCM-96-65
Motion carried. 5-0-1-1. Commissioner Addington abstained and Commissioner Ellis
absent.
Associate Planner, Larry Mainez joined the meeting.
ITEM #4
SA-96-05/E-96-12
APPLICATION FOR SITE AND ARCHITECTURAL AND ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEWS
TO ADD A 11,200 SQUARE FOOT CHILD MINISTRY COMPLEX TO EXISTING
CHURCH PROPERTY.
AZURE HILLS SEVENTH -DAY ADVENTIST CHURCH
22633 BARTON ROAD, GRAND TERRACE, CA
Commissioner Addington announced he will abstain from all proceedings related to this project
because of a conflict of interest.
Staff report was presented by Larry Mainez, Associate Planner. He explained the zoning of the
surrounding properties. R3 to the east, R1-7.2 to the south, and R-7.2 to the north of the new
project. The two current portable classrooms will be removed upon approval of this project. There
is no specific master plan for this site at present.
The project for review at this meeting includes 8 classrooms totaling 7,304 square feet, 600 square
feet for restrooms, 856 square feet of storage, and 2,477 square feet of hallway space, totaling
11,237 square feet. The architecture proposed is similar to that of the existing fellowship hall
structure. The textures and colors, roof style and pitch will be similar to existing. Skylights are
�. proposed for classrooms. Current landscape coverage is sufficient to satisfy Barton Road Specific
Plan requirements.
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A retaining wall will be constructed between the proposed structure and the new 20' wide parking
and fire access road next to the east property line.
The parking analysis submitted by applicant was reviewed by staff and it was found to be adequate.
Cumulative parking impacts were part of the environmental review conducted by staff. To address
the overflow parking on Saturdays onto Palm Avenue staff conditioned the project to include a
parking mitigation agreement.
Applicant recently asked staff to amend the proposed condition #13 to allow the portable classrooms
to remain on the premises for 30 days after issuance of the certificate of occupancy for the proposed
child ministry structure.
The Community Development Department staff recommended approval of this project subject to
proposed conditions of approval and the associated negative declaration.
Community Development Director Materassi stated that the parking mitigation agreement will be
implemented should there be at least three complaints within six months after completion of
construction. The Church agreed to this plan.
Commissioner Van Gelder inquired how the applicant plans to mitigate noise impacts associated with
the proposed project. Staff responded that this facility will be used for indoor classrooms so there
is little noise anticipated outside. Staff has proposed placing the standard "noise" condition of
approval on this project.
Commissioner Trainor asked if the new structure will consolidate all current church education
occurring elsewhere on the property into one facility or does it allow for an expanded church
program thus bringing more children onto the property (on Saturday)? If it allows for expanded
service, how many more people are anticipated to be added to the current Saturday gathering?
Staff answered that it will allow for consolidation, alleviate overcrowding and allow for expansion,
although he did not have any numbers regarding additional people on Saturdays.
7:30 P.M. OPENED PUBLIC HEARING
Matthew Addington, Civil Engineer
CM Engineering
225 E. Airport Drive
San Bernardino, CA
He stated he is the Civil Engineer for the applicant. The two temporary classrooms currently
at the church property are operating on an expired permit. The new structure will replace
the temporary classrooms which are leased by the Church. He requested a motion by the
Planning Commission to re -word Condition #13 to read, "Within 30 days after issuance of
Certificate of Occupancy for the new child ministry complex the two temporary portable
classrooms approved on September 9, 1992, shall be removed."
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Regarding Commissioner Van Gelder's noise concerns, he stated the Church does not
anticipate any higher noise levels than are currently being experienced.
He requested the Planning Commission delete Condition #2, Attachment A, Page 2 of the
Building and Safety requirements, Item 6, regarding installation of a standard ornamental
street light. There are currently 5 street lights in front of the church on Palm/Barton Road.
In addition, Dr. Choo was not required to install an ornamental street light when he
completed the remodel of the dental office across the street at the intersection of Palm/Barton
Road.
Chairperson Sims asked what provision will be made behind the planned retaining wall for water
collection. Mr. Addington said there are two low points where water will be collected and brought
down through the wall. At this initial stage of preliminary design no flooding problems are
anticipated.
Ann Jones
22658 LaPaix
Grand Terrace, CA
She stated her property is adjacent to the children's playground of the church. At times the
noise and trash generated by the children on the playground six days per week is unbearable.
The noise during construction two years ago was objectionable. She said she objects to any
expansion of the church. Any future increased enrollment and decrease of playground size
is objectionable.
Bridgette Espinoza
22668 LaPaix
Grand Terrace, CA
Said she also objects to expansion. She has had many problems with students and has
complained many times to the school. Students have been brought to her home to apologize
for throwing rocks into her back yard. Children have cussed at her family in their own back
yard. Expansion means more children and more problems. She said she would not have
bought her home had she known this expansion was planned. Her property line is separated
by oleanders, chain link fence and bamboo fencing.
Jim Singley
22709 F Palm
Grand Terrace, CA
He said this property was purchased by him for his father-in-law, an elderly man, three years
ago. One of the reasons he bought it was because it is next to the playground and his father-
in-law spent many hours watching the children playing on the playground. The church as
been an excellent neighbor and he is in favor of the new structure.
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Betty Jones
22648 LaPaix
Grand Terrace, CA
She said her property is directly behind the playground. She said there have been many
complaints about the children as well as people using the area after-hours. An arrow was
shot into her back yard. The basketball court is sometimes used after midnight.
Linda Penick
1650 Ramsgate Ct.
Riverside, CA
She said she is the principal of the Azure Hills School. She has been there five years, and
has served the last two as principal. She wished to address those neighbors who said there
have been complaints about the children. She has had only 1 or 2 complaints from
neighbors, none adjacent to the playground. She said if letters of apology from the school
addressing neighbors' complaints they were not written from her office. After school hours
the public has access to church property and staff consistently asks those unauthorized to
leave the premises. There is supervision on the playground during and after school hours.
The future playground will be located west of the school.
Chairperson Sims asked Ms. Penick about the school hours. She replied 8:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m.
After school care children are outside from 3:30 p.m. to 4:30 p.m. After 4:30 p.m. they are inside
until picked up by 6:00 p.m. After 6:00 p.m. staff and children are all gone.
Elmer Symonett
25813 Laughton
Loma Linda, CA
Said his family attends Azure Hills Church and school. They have been involved in Saturday
evening activities, however the activities never last until midnight. They do play volleyball
and/or basketball until 11 p.m. sometimes. These activities are supervised by adults. At
the conclusion the lights are turned off and everyone leaves the premises. He said the new
proposed structure is necessary to replace the temporary structures as well as consolidate
other activities on church grounds into one structure. The intention is not to bring new
people into the church from the community.
Jack Booker
11785 Mt. Vernon
Grand Terrace, CA
He said the school has an open campus. There is parking lot access from City Center Ct.,
Barton Rd. and Palm Avenue. Children from the community, not from the school, come
onto school/church property on a daily basis to ride bikes, roller skate and skateboard in the
parking lot areas. They are asked to leave. The Citizen Patrol and Sheriff's Department
have also been asked to patrol the school/church property and ask them to leave. Vandalism
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has been done to school/church property. He emphasized the purpose of the proposed new
structure is not to expand or increase membership. It is needed for existing children in the
school/church. He said evening activities on the tennis and basketball courts generally end
before 10-11 p.m. but do on a rare occasion run past that time. Unauthorized people do use
the lighted tennis courts at time. The intention of the church is to be good neighbors.
Commissioner Van Gelder asked Dr. Booker if the lights on the tennis courts are locked. Dr.
Booker responded that unauthorized persons sometimes vandalize the locked access to the lights.
Tom Mayer, Associate Pastor
308 E. Cypress
Anaheim, CA
He said the unauthorized use of the tennis courts have been addressed within the past two
months. Padlocks have been placed on the tennis court gates and the electrical panel which
controls the lights. The locks have been repeatedly cut off.
Commissioner Van Gelder suggested the possibility of controlling the lights from inside an office
building. She asked Mr. Mayer when the playground lights are turned off. Mr. Mayer responded
that there are no playground lights.
Deborah Stottlemeyer
22568 Cardinal St.
Grand Terrace, CA
She said her property abuts the playground of the junior high school in Grand Terrace. She
said she faces many of the same issues as those brought up by neighbors of the proposed
project. She said the benefits of having a quality school in our community outweigh the
problems posed by these issues. She said almost 25 % of the Azure Hills School enrollment
are children of the community. She said it is important that the children of the school have
a playground in which to play. She is appreciative that the green area has been preserved
in the proposed plan for playground. She urged the Planning Commission to approve this
project.
Troy Daul
22757 Palm
Grand Terrace, CA
He said he is president of the Azure Hills Homeowner's Association. The Board of
Directors fully supports the proposed project. There have been no noise complaints to the
Board during the three years he has been on the Board of Directors.
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Andy Snider
23240 Twin Canyon
Grand Terrace, CA
He said he is a former head deacon at the church. He personally put up vandal -proof signs
prohibiting skating and skateboarding. Those signs have been vandalized. He has asked
unauthorized persons to leave church/school property on many occasions. At some time in
the future the playground will be moved to the west side of the church/school.
Louise Deapen
11763 Arliss Dell
Grand Terrace, CA
She said the majority of her adult life has been spent working with children. She said there
is a need for expansion of the church/school for the children.
Robert Skoretz
1250 S. Barton Road
Colton, CA
He has been the youth pastor at the church six weeks. The youth ministry has a commitment
to be good neighbors with regards to youth activities. Careful measures will be taken to
educate the teens to respect surrounding neighbors pertaining to noise level and interaction
with neighbors. Encounters with neighborhood children will be addressed as firmly as
possible but with love and care, hoping they will learn more responsibility for the
community, church and neighbors.
Chairperson Sims asked if there are any other opponents to the project who wish to speak. There
were no responses.
Matthew Addington
CM Engineering
225 E. Airport Dr.
San Bernardino, CA
Added a clarification regarding the movement of the playground area. He stated that move
is not a part of this project. Item #5 of the parking agreement drafted by staff, requires
application for use of vacant property. There was a church meeting on November 16, to
discuss future acquisition of two parcels west of the school for the future playground.
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Associate Planner Mainez said staff feels there is actually no way to condition the playground
activity after hours, noise and loitering associated unauthorized persons on church/school property.
Director Materassi said activities of the church can be conditioned. It is the community use of the
facilities which cannot be conditioned.
Chairperson Sims and Director Materassi had a discussion regarding the use of the proposed
facilities for Sabbath classes vs. church activities vs. expansion of the educational building.
Commissioner Wilson asked what the original administrative application SA-92-13 was for. Director
Materassi stated that was the original application for the two temporary classroom units for Sabbath
classes which were to be removed in two years. A two-year continuance was allowed after the initial
two year period. Chairperson Sims invited Jack Booker to tell the Planning Commission the size
of the portable classrooms. Dr. Booker stated the modular units are 20' x 40' each. He also said
the new structure will be used for school classes (grades 1 and 2) in addition to Sabbath classes. The
school classes will take place 4-1/2 days per week.
Director Materassi said there is an additional evaluation of the playground area which remains to be
done since the applicant has just told staff the proposed project will also be used for general
educational classes (K-6). This evaluation will take into consideration the comparison of
playground/green space in public schools vs. private educational institutions.
Chairperson Sims suggested Condition #12 may need to be re -worded.
Commissioner Trainor said the term remedial generally means a compensatory program for children
who are not performing to grade level. She said the Azure Hills program as she understands it is
a private elementary school, not remedial. Director Materassi said staff has been using the term
remedial in lieu of academic.
Commissioner Trainor asked for clarification regarding the increased weekday child activity in the
playground area (behind LaPaix) of the church/school. She asked if extension of the current block
wall past the property owners opposing the project would be a possibility. Director Materassi said
that was not a consideration as heretofore staff was unaware of any complaints.
MOTION
PCM-66
Motion by Commissioner Trainor to add Condition #17 to require applicant to extend the
current block wall on the south property line to the east property line to add a measure of
noise protection for the LaPaix property owners as well as visual privacy.
Seconded by Commissioner Van Gelder.
Commissioner Huss said she is very much against the Planning Commission imposing such a block
wall condition without discussion with the applicant and the surrounding property owners, and she
will not vote in favor of such a condition.
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Commissioner Wilson said there has been no demonstration and finding that there is a significant
impact and that a sound attenuation wall to be built between the existing residents and school would
mitigate that impact. He agreed with Commissioner Huss that this is an inappropriate action for the
Commission to take at this time.
Commissioner Van Gelder withdrew her second of the motion. She said she was trying to help those
living on LaPaix with their noise problem. If the residents desire not to have the block wall then
so be it.
Motion dies for lack of a second.
Commissioner Wilson again asked about the size of the temporary modular units. He said he does
not understand how there cannot be significant parking/traffic impacts when the two 800 square foot
buildings are being replaced with a structure over 11,000 square feet. Director Materassi said the
students to be housed in this building are currently on campus already and the activities already take
place somewhere on the campus. Code requirements for parking are being exceeded by the current
number of parking spaces provided. Staff determined there is an indirect potential for cumulative
impact on the parking. There is a probability that more people will attend the church classes because
of the new structure. However, the church presented information in their application which says
they are merely relocating currently existing classes into the new structure. Director said they will
need to come back for re-evaluation if the church decides to increase the number of academic or
Sabbath classes. If there are more than three complaints regarding parking within a six month period
the church will be required by the parking agreement to secure private off-street parking.
MOTION
PCM-96-67
Motion by Chairperson Sims to amend Condition #13 to incorporate a 30-day waiting period
as has been requested by the applicant. "Within 30 days after issuance of a Certificate of
Occupancy for the new child ministry building, the two temporary classroom buildings
approved on September 9, 1992 shall be removed from the site."
Seconded by Commissioner Van Gelder.
MOTION
VOTE
PCM-96-67
Carried. 5-0-1-1. Commissioner Addington abstained and Commissioner Ellis absent.
Commissioner Van Gelder asked why applicant is requested to install an ornamental street light.
Director Materassi suggested applicant's engineer tell the Commission how the Building and
Safety/Public Works Director responded when they requested deletion of the light requirement.
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MOTION
PCM-96-68
Motion by Commissioner Huss to delete Condition #12 in total.
Seconded by Commissioner Van Gelder.
MOTION
VOTE
PCM-96-68
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Carried. 4-1-1-1. Commissioner Wilson voted "no", Commissioner Addington abstained,
and Commissioner Ellis absent.
MOTION
PCM-96-69
Motion by Chairperson Sims to amend Condition #2 to "review the need for installation of
an ornamental street light, to review the need for a standard ornamental street light in
conjunction with the project engineer." If the findings show a street light is necessary it
shall be installed.
Seconded by Commissioner Huss.
MOTION
VOTE
PCM-96-69
Carried. 5-0-1-1. Commission Addington abstained and Commissioner Ellis absent.
MOTION
PCM-96-70
Motion by Chairperson Sims to approve SA-96-05 and E-96-12 pursuant to the conditions
proposed by staff and amended by the Planning Commission.
Seconded by Commissioner Van Gelder.
MOTION
VOTE
PCM-96-70
Carried. 5-0-1-1. Commissioner Addington abstained and Commissioner Ellis absent.
8:55 P.M. 5-MINUTE RECESS ANNOUNCED BY THE CHAIRPERSON.
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9 10 P.M. MEETING RECONVENED AFTER RECESS BY CHAIRPERSON SIMS
ITEM #2
SA-95-14/E-96-06
APPLICATION FOR SITE AND ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW AND ENVIRONMENTAL
EVALUATION FOR AN EXISTING DEVELOPED FACILITY TO EXPAND THE
COMMERCIAL STRUCTURE BY 676 SQUARE FEET
ALI YASIN, OWNER AND OPERATOR
22087 BARTON ROAD, GRAND TERRACE, CA
Staff report was presented by Director Materassi. This project was before the Planning Commission
on May 2, 1996. On that evening it was continued with directions for revisions from the
Commission as follows:
1. Provide estimated costs for street improvements and utility relocation with a letter
stating the applicant's intent to pay for the street improvements.
2. Look into purchase or method of obtaining legal use of the strip of land at the
southern side of 22087 Barton Road, in order to comply with code regarding parking
requirements.
3. Removal of all illegal signs, especially those in the public right-of-way.
4. Alternate solutions for the addition: Relocate structure or build new structure at the
rear of the property. Also provide cost scenarios.
Subsequent to the May 2, meeting applicant requested a meeting with the City Manager and Mayor
to explore the possibility of subsidies from the City. Direction to the applicant from this meeting
was to pursue acquisition of the southerly property to meet parking requirements and pursue
Planning Commission approval. Upon completion of those two items the issue of subsidies will be
addressed by City administration. Applicant has thus far not been in touch with the owner of the
southerly property, however applicant feels he has prescriptive rights to the land. Since five months
have now elapsed since the initial review by the Commission, the City Attorney feels there should
be some resolution by the Planning Commission.
Applicant is now requesting at this meeting a conditional approval to get his permit. Although this
project is not complete pursuant to the directions of Planning Commission on May 2, 1996, applicant
has requested a conditional approval.
Subsidies issue - Staff recommended the Planning Commission separate this issue from the
proposed approval of the project. Subsidies will be addressed by City
management and City Council at a later date if appropriate. Staff
recommended a street improvement deferral for 2 years based upon posting
of a bond.
Obtain land - Project will be conditioned to obtain legal use of the land to the south, and
to meet parking requirements.
Remove signs - Banners and temporary signs have been removed but some have been
replaced in other locations. Permits need to be obtained for the legal display
of signs and banners. The monument sign must be moved out of the right-of-
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way and lowered by June 1, 1997. Plans to reflect the correct location of
the monument sign.
Alternatives - No new plans for alternative solutions were submitted but cost estimates were
submitted. $111,000 to relocate the building vs. $33,800 to build the
proposed addition. Street improvements are estimated at $50,000.
Changes proposed by staff to conditions of approval are as follows:
•
Applicant to post bond for complete cost of street improvements at the intersection of Barton
Road and Michigan Street. 2-year deferral for the purpose of making street improvements.
Estimates to be reviewed and approved by the City Engineer.
•
Applicant to purchase or obtain legal use of the strip of land at the south side of the property
in or to allow enough space to bring the property up to code regarding parking requirements
with one handicapped space, prior to issuance of building permits.
•
New landscaping shall include 930 square feet of landscaping area or more as needed to
include area adjacent to the building on the east side. Landscaping of the public right-of-way
along with the strip on the west perimeter side of the property. This new landscaping does
not include existing landscaping.
•
Existing monument sign to be brought up to code according to the previous Planning
Commission approval. Building plans shall include the correct location of the monument
sign to reflect changes to be implemented by June 1, 1997.
•
Landscape maintenance bond of $2,000 to be posted for a period of five years.
•
Delivery of gasoline shall be performed during night hours.
•
Facade colors and materials shall be consistent with the approved plan.
•
Landscaping irrigation plan showing the existing and proposed landscaping for the site
including the parkway area the and public right-of-way. All landscaping improvement plans
must be in conformance with the Barton Road Beautification Program. Plan shall be
submitted with the Building & Safety Dept. plan check package. Applicant is to install all
the landscaping in the parkway area as applicable.
•
Compliance with the County Fire Dept. and Building & Safety.
•
Applicable fees shall be paid to the Colton Joint Unified School District.
•
All aspects of this project including maintenance shall be kept in a clean and functional
manner to the satisfaction of the Community Development Director.
•
Add Condition #15 "Building permit plans shall show an increased intersection turning
radius to 35' and relocate propane tank in a manner to meet code."
Chairperson Sims expressed concern that the new landscaping should be extended on the east side
of the building to Michigan St. Director agreed the landscaping should be extended to prevent
people from parking in that area.
Commissioner Addington said there are many ambiguities in the staff report. He asked what the
status is of the four motions he made at the May 2, 1996 meeting. Director Materassi said those
motions were incorporated into the follow-up letters to the applicant after the meeting and have been
incorporated into the staff -proposed conditions of approval.
Commissioner Wilson said he feels it is unrealistic to ask the applicant to post a bond for 100 % of
the street improvements at that intersection. He said he believes the cost should be proportionate
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to the amount of the improvement involved and that it would be best worded "pro rata amount"
instead of 100 % . Chairperson Sims said he agrees the applicant should not be responsible for 100 %
of the street improvement costs as he would not be responsible for improvement to the east side of
Michigan Street.
Commissioner Addington said he had concerns dealing with this incomplete submittal package. He
said he has no problem granting a continuance to the applicant so he can complete the directives.
He asked why the City Attorney is pushing this project to conclusion. Director Materassi said the
Planning Commission is required to approve, deny or approve with conditions. Any continuance
should be only until the next meeting. An extended continuance is not really an acceptable option.
9:50 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING OPENED
Hossein Zand
5175 Chapala
Riverside, CA
He said he is the civil engineer for this project. Nothing has changed from the pervious
submittal on this project. Applicant, Mr. Yasin, hopes to achieve an agreement with the
neighbor to the south to purchase the subject strip of land. The site plan as submitted is
complete in his opinion. The floor plan, elevations and materials board have been submitted.
The building plans and street improvement plans are not yet prepared. He said he did not
understand why this submittal was considered incomplete.
Commissioner Addington said he felt it is an incomplete package because the Public Works Director
previously requested a 23' property line radius at the comer of Michigan and Barton Road, and the
plan shows a 20' radius. At the last Planning Commission Meeting on May 2, 1996, a 35' curb
return radius was requested and the plan now shows a 25' curb return radius. Director Materassi
read for the benefit of Mr. Zand a portion of the follow-up letter staff sent to Mr. Yasin after the
May 2, 1996, meeting detailing directions by the Planning Commission. She said applicant has
expressed an intent to comply with all conditions and directives however they have not been
incorporated into the plan so it is still considered an incomplete plan.
Director said she understands applicant agrees with all conditions and directives with the exception
of the 100 % of the street improvements because he still intends to seek subsidies.
Chairperson Sims asked what the applicant intends to do about relocating the propane tank. Where
will the tank be placed and still comply with the parking requirements? Mr. Zand said it may be
placed in the southwest comer of the property, near the trash bins. Chairperson Sims reiterated that
this is a detail which will need to be resolved with staff.
9:59 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
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Chairperson Sims asked Director when the dedication of public right-of-way will occur. Director
said it would happen in two years unless the Commission decided otherwise.
MOTION
PCM-96-71
Motion by Chairperson Sims to amend Condition #1 "Applicant to post bond for complete
cost of '/2 street improvements at the intersection of Barton Road/Michigan Street adjacent
to subject property". Balance of Condition #1 would remain as is.
Seconded by Commissioner Van Gelder.
MOTION
VOTE
PCM-96-71
Carried. 5-1-0-1. Commissioner Addington voted "no" and Commissioner Ellis absent.
MOTION
PCM-96-72
C, Motion by Chairperson Sims to add Condition #16 that dedication of the right-of-way by
applicant be done prior to issuance of building permits.
Seconded by Commissioner Huss.
MOTION
VOTE
PCM-96-72
Carried. 6-0-0-1. Commissioner Ellis absent.
MOTION
PCM-96-73
Motion by Commissioner Addington that the proposed street improvements along Michigan
Street be built at the recommendations of the City Engineer and that the proposed curb return
at that same intersection be 35' radius.
Director Materassi said that was included in Condition #15.
Motion withdrawn by Commissioner Addington.
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MOTION
PCM-96-74
Motion by Chairperson Sims to reinstate Condition #11, Applicant to comply with
conditions of the San Bernardino County Health & Safety Department
Seconded by Commissioner Wilson.
MOTION
VOTE
PCM-96-74
Carried. 6-0-0-1. Commissioner Ellis absent.
MOTION
PCM-96-75
Motion by Commissioner Wilson to approve SA-95-14 and E-96-06 as amended.
Seconded by Commissioner Huss.
MOTION
VOTE
PCM-96-75
Carried. 6-0-0-1. Commissioner Ellis absent.
Director Materassi asked Chairperson to determine if there is consensus among Commissioners to
recommend a street improvement subsidy.
Chairperson Sims said the recommendation should consist of a subsidy as well as analyze whether
the wording should be "full cost" or "pro rata cost" of street improvements. There was consensus
by the Planning Commissioners.
ITEM #3
BRSP-96-01/E-96-13
AN APPLICATION TO AMEND THE BARTON ROAD SPECIFIC PLAN AS FOLLOWS:
1) TO CREATE AN INTERIM OVERLAY DISTRICT TO SUSPEND THE NON-
CONFORMING STATUS OF EXISTING RESIDENTIAL UNITS FOR A PERIOD OF 10
YEARS, IN THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE OFFICE PROFESSIONAL DISTRICT;
2) TO ALLOW ESTABLISHMENT AND OPERATION OF TECHNICAL AND TRADE
SCHOOLS WITHIN THE BRSP; and
3) TO ALLOW DRIVE-THRU ESTABLISHMENTS WITHIN THE VILLAGE CORE AREA
CITY OF GRAND TERRACE LOCATION AS DESIGNATED WITHIN THE BARTON
_ ROAD SPECIFIC PLAN AREA
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Staff report was presented by Larry Mainez, Associate Planner. The purpose of this amendment is
to protect residential neighborhoods, to facilitate establishment of new businesses in the Barton Road
Specific Plan. The Environmental Review determined a negative declaration was recommended by
staff. This amendment is staff -initiated because of interest expressed by the public in these three
areas. These amendments are consistent with the General Plan. Overhead projections were shown
to demonstrate the affected areas of the Barton Road Specific Plan.
Amendment #1 - The parcels selected for this proposed overlay district were selected because
the surrounding properties are single-family and multi -family dwelling units
as well as an area approved for condominium units. These parcels are in
close proximity to well -maintained neighborhoods with no office development
nearby. This proposed amendment has a proposed life of 10 years. This
amendment would still allow office uses to develop in this area if market
demand arises, but in the meantime it will allow for additions and
improvements to the current residential uses. Without this amendment no
additions or improvements are allowed.
10:25 P.M. OPENED PUBLIC HEARING AS TO AMENDMENT #1 (OVERLAY
DISTRICT)
Tony Petta
11875 Eton Dr.
Grand Terrace, CA
Said he would like clarification of the proposed amendment. Director Materassi said if this
amendment is approved, then within the next 10 years expansion of existing dwellings and
new dwellings may be built. The interim overlay district will allow property owners to
improve the currently non -conforming structures. After the 10 year period the property will
again be considered non -conforming and improvements will not be allowed. Also within the
10 year period the existing residences may be demolished and professional office space built.
10:28 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
MOTION
PCM-96-76
Motion by Vice -Chairperson Van Gelder to approve the 10-year interim overlay district.
Seconded by Commissioner Trainor.
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MOTION
VOTE
PCM-96-76
Carried. 6-0-0-1. Commissioner Ellis absent.
Amendment #2 - Associate Planner Mainez said there has been considerable interest expressed
in recent years by potential tenants of shopping centers for the use of
technical and trade schools; most recently a driving school and a business
management vocational training school. At present the Barton Road Specific
Plan does not specifically allow commercial/private schools. Currently only
public schools and the Azure Hills school are allowed.
10:36 P.M. OPENED FOR PUBLIC HEARING AS TO AMENDMENT #2 (SCHOOLS IN
THE BRSP�
10:36 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
Director Materassi told the Planning Commission that Councilmember LeeAnn Garcia suggested
the possibility of finding a university extension program as a tenant should this amendment be
approved. There was discussion among the Commissioners regarding similarity of a university
extension program to technical and trade schools. It was determined they are dissimilar and Director
Materassi told the Planning Commission she felt this portion of the amendment should be noticed
as a public hearing and come back at a later date.
MOTION
PCM-96-77
Motion by Commissioner Addington to table amendment 2 of BRSP-96-01 & E-96-13.
Seconded by Commissioner Trainor.
MOTION
VOTE
PCM-96-77
Motion carried. 6-0-0-1. Commissioner Ellis absent.
Mr. Mainez continued his staff report on Amendment 3 regarding allowing drive-thrus in the
Village Core Area of the BRSP. The BRSP currently allows drive-thrus in the General Commercial
District. Staffs proposal would allow drive-thrus in the Village Commercial District and the node
at the intersection of Barton Road and Mt. Vernon.
Vice -Chairperson Van Gelder said one of the goals of the General Plan is to promote foot traffic in
the City, and drive-thrus do not promote foot traffic. Drive-thrus would not promote business for
other businesses. She encouraged staff and Council not to jump at the first offer of a business at the
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GTI Market site, but rather find something to promote and encourage upscale clientele. She felt a
drive-thru at that location would diminish the quality of life in the Grand Terrace bedroom
community. She urged the Planning Commission to recommend to City Council passage of an
ordinance to disallow drive-thrus in the BRSP Core area. She said she would like to see a traffic
flow pattern before any development of the GTI Market property.
10:55 P.M. OPENED FOR PUBLIC HEARING AS TO AMENDMENT #3 (DRIVE-
THRUS IN THE VILLAGE CORE AREA
Bob Henry
22614 Miriam Way
Grand Terrace, CA
He said he could remember when the GTI Market was open and the trash which was
generated. With a drive-thru at that location he said the trash problem would be worse. He
does not want to see any drive-thru in Grand Terrace. He suggested demolishing the market
to build a park.
Raymond Hughes
12077 Arliss Dr.
Grand Terrace, CA
He said the old GTI Market is right in front of his house. He was concerned about truck
deliveries, trash and people loitering. fie encouraged a quality restaurant instead of a drive-
thru for that location. He was also concerned about degrading property values.
Don Mangus
12070 Arliss Dr.
Grand Terrace, CA
His house is next door to the market to the North. He is opposed to a fast food drive-thru at
that location. He has lived in that location 17 years and is unhappy with the GTI Market but
would not endorse a fast food establishment.
Michelle Cisneros
19845 Mt. Vernon
Grand Terrace, CA
Asked staff to reconsider the consequences of approving a fast food restaurant in Grand
Terrace. She has been a resident of Grand Terrace for 6 months and chose Grand Terrace
for its character and being a family -oriented community. She said the noise level on Mt.
Vernon now is so great that she must close her doors and windows to watch TV and urged
staff to consider the traffic impact, noise level and safety issued associated with a drive-thru
at the GTI Market location.
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Tony Petta
11875 Eton Drive
Grand Terrace, CA
He said that corner (GTI Market site) has always been a problem. He said the problem is
because commercial and residential zoning are next to each other. lie suggested making that
block all residential or all commercial. He said most fast food restaurants need more space
than that available at that site.
11:08 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
Chairman Sims said he is not in favor of this amendment to the Barton Road Specific Plan.
Commissioner Trainor complimented staff for initiation of the drive thru amendment proposal. She
said it demonstrates an appreciation for the needs of the community and the needs for business
development in the community. It shows flexibility of thinking. She said she agrees with others that
it may be premature given there are studies that may be done to give better feasibility answers of a
drive-thru in the Village Core Area, and specifically at the GTI site. The Chamber of Commerce
has developed a business development committee. The GTI site is one of the locations they are
looking at. She said perhaps in six months the drive-thru issue can be revisited with a better
understanding of what an economic study may provide and the efforts of the City/Chamber
Partnership Committee may develop for long-term solutions.
MOTION
PCM-96-78
Motion by Commissioner Wilson to deny BRSP-96-01 and E-96-13.
Seconded by Vice -chairperson Van Gelder.
Chairman Sims said Commissioner Wilson's motion would deny the two parts of the proposed
amendment which the Commission has already acted on. The only issue to be acted upon now is
the portion to allow drive-thrus in the Village Core Area.
Vice -Chairperson Van Gelder withdrew her second of the motion.
Motion failed for lack of a second.
MOTION
PCM-96-79
Motion by Chairman Sims to deny Amendment 3 to allow drive-thru establishments within
the Village Core Area.
Seconded by Commissioner Addington.
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MOTION
VOTE
PCM-96-79
Carried. 6-0-0-1. Commissioner Ellis absent.
Vice -Chairperson Van Gelder asked if the last item denied would be presented to City Council for
their consideration. Director Materassi said it would not. Her intention is to table Amendment #3
for 6 months per Commissioner Trainor's recommendation.
11:15 P.M. ADJOURNED SITE AND ARCHITECTURE REVIEW BOARD/PLANNIN
COMMISSION MEETING
NEXT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TO BE HELD ON DECEMBER 5, 1996
Respectfully submitted,
Patrizia Materassi
Community Development Director
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