11/05/1992GRAND TERRACE PLANNING COMMISSION
MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING
NOVEMBER 5, 1992
The regular meeting of the Grand Terrace Planning Commission was called to order at the
Grand Terrace Civic Center, 22795 Barton Road, Grand Terrace, California, on November
5, 1992 at 7:00 P.M. by Chairman Dan Buchanan.
PRESENT: Dan Buchanan, Chairman
Stanley Hargrave, Chairman
Ray Munson, Commissioner
Jim Sims, Vice Chairman
Fran Van Gelder, Commissioner
Doug Wilson, Commissioner
Moire Huss, Commissioner
STAFF: Patrizia Materassi, Planning Director
Maria Muett, Associate Planner
Barbara Stewart, Temporary Planning Secretary
ABSENT: None
PLEDGE: Chairman Buchanan
PLANNING COMMISSION WORKSHOP CONVENED AT 6:30 P.M.
The Planning Director asked if for the next several months, the minutes for the
Planning Commission meetings could be done in a summary action form, rather than
word-for-word. She also would like to provide dividers, numbered 1-5, for ease in
finding issues, rather than making separate dividers for each meeting. There was a
consensus of the Commissioners that would be acceptable.
Commissioner Wilson noted that there is a parking problem on Saturdays by the
Seventh Day Adventist Church.
Vice Chairman Sims mentioned the windows at Village Foods are getting worse.
Although Commissioner Van Gelder noted the landscaping is nice.
Commissioner Munson commented that they really enjoyed the Volunteer's picnic.
Several other Commissioners agreed.
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Although this topic is not a Planning Commission issue, Chairman Buchanan said he
was appalled and disappointed that there was absolutely nothing on the public
broadcast channel on election night. The best way to get any election results was to
watch Channel 4 and the coverage for our local elections was very little.
The Planning Director told the Commission that the window problem at Chief Auto
Parts has been resolved, using a black film.
Vice Chairman Sims noted that the blue paint on the building on Palm is terrible.
The Planning Director assured him that this is being remedied.
The Planning Director noted that the landscaping problem at the Advocate School
is also being resolved.
PLANNING COMMISSION WORKSHOP ADJOURNED AT 7:00 P.M.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING CONVENED AT 7:00 P.M.
PUBLIC PARTICIPATION: None
ITEM #1
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES - JULY 16, 1992
MOTION
PCM-92-59
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES - JULY 16, 1992
Commissioner Wilson made a motion to approve the July 16, 1992 minutes.
Commissioner Van Gelder seconded.
MOTION
PCM-92-59
VOTE
Motion carried. 7-0-0-0
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES - AUGUST 20, 1992
MOTION
PCM-92-60
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES - AUGUST 20, 1992
Commissioner Wilson made a motion to approve the August 20, 1992 minutes. Vice
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Chairman Sims seconded.
MOTION
PCM-92-60
VOTE
Motion carried. 7-0-0-0
MOTION
PCM-92-61
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES - SEPTEMBER 17, 1992 AND
OCTOBER 1, 1992
Chairman Buchanan made a motion to continue the September 17,1992 and October
1, 1992 minutes until the November 19, 1992 Planning Commission Meeting.
Commissioner Wilson seconded.
MOTION
PCM-92-61
VOTE
Motion carried. 7-0-0-0
ITEM #2
SP-92-01/E-92-09
EDWARD KRUSE
KRUSE MICROWAVE ENTERPRISES
BLUE MOUNTAIN ROAD
GT
APPLICATION FOR A MICROWAVE ANTENNA FACILITY ATOP OF BLUE
MOUNTAIN
The Associate Planner presented the project report. Chairman Buchanan questioned
if the Specific Plan consisted of just the blueprint. He also questioned if the 75-foot
tower is consistent with other towers up there. The Associate Planner said yes, the
Specific Plan consists of the blueprint, with attachments. The applicant would have
to address the tower issue.
Chairman Buchanan asked if applicant decides to put up a dish also, would that be
a separate proposal. The Planning Director responded that this proposal includes
both the tower and dishes. She also said that the applicant had submitted a letter
entitled "Specific Plan" which had inadvertently been left out of the staff report, but
if the Commission would feel more comfortable, she would include that letter, plus
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the plans, and the resolution would make up the booklet called "Specific Plan."
Chairman Buchanan asked if there was a potential risk of release of malfunctioning
causing unusual or excessive amounts of radiation. The Planning Director said no.
Commissioner Hargrave asked for an explanation of Phase I and Phase H. The
Associate Planner answered that Phase I is the 12 X 40 building and tower and then
Phase H would be a second building. Also, he wanted to know if there was any
provision that if a new tenant took over the building, the Specific Plan would have
to be amended or the new use would not be allowed. The Planning Director said
that was correct.
Commissioner Wilson was concerned about the use of the property and was informed
that due to the zoning for hilltops, the only use can be what is in the Specific Plan.
Any other type of use, the Specific Plan would have to be amended.
Commissioner Wilson was also concerned about fire protection.
PUBLIC HEARING OPENED
ED KRUSE
6870 GALA
HIGHLAND
Mr. Kruse said his concern was not fire within getting out, but fire out getting in. All
of the radio equipment that is in these buildings are in steel enclosures and if there
is an electrical fire in the enclosures, the flames do not get out of the steel box, all
that would be emitted would be smoke. Also the roof is steel so if there was a brush
fire or forest fire, the embers wouldn't catch the roof on fire and the interior and
exterior walls are block, construction is poured solid grout, so the structure is vandal
proof and fire proof.
The tower he will be erecting will be behind existing towers and hardly visible to
Grand Terrace. The type of antenna on the tower will vary from single poles with
a maximum of 2" to dishes of six to eight feet in diameter. The dishes will be
mounted very low on the tower.
Chairman Buchanan asked if existing electrical service will be sufficient. The
applicant said yes both electrical and phone services are ample.
Commissioner Van Gelder wanted to know what the maximum number of dishes on
a tower would be and applicant estimated four or five. She also asked how wide they
would be and was told six to eight feet, and placed at a maximum of 30 feet high on
the 75-foot tower.
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Commissioner Hargrave questioned placement of dishes at the top of the tower and
the safety factor. The applicant assured him that the tower will be designed to
handle a lot more than the UBC requirement, which is 70 mph wind load.
Commissioner Hargrave also asked about the color of the dishes. Mr. Kruse
answered that the color would be a flat galvanized color, so that it will not reflect the
sun.
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
MOTION
PCM-92-62
SP-92-01/E-92-09
Vice Chairman Sims made a motion to approve SA-92-01 and E-92-09 as
recommended by staff. Commissioner Hargrave seconded.
MOTION
PCM-92-62
VOTE
Motion carried. 6-1-0-0 Commissioner Wilson voted no.
ITEM #3
V-92-02
JOE KOHORST
MR. T.V. VIDEO
22505 BARTON ROAD
GT
APPLICATION FOR A VARIANCE FROM SIGN CODE TO ALLOW A TIME AND
TEMPERATURE CLOCK TO INCORPORATE A VIDEO STORE BUSINESS
IDENTIFICATION SIGN
The Planning Director informed the Commission that the community is pressuring
the applicant to keep the sign and maintain it. The City Council and the Historical
Committee have considered the sign a historical landmark for the City. Staff felt that
having the landmark sign created a hardship on the applicant so this proposal to
install his own sign into that structure could be approved through a variance
application. The sign would be just like what is on the building, opaque red
background and white letters.
The Planning Director then read the Conditions of Approval. Vice Chairman Sims
asked to clarify condition #5 that said if the clock is not maintained, the applicant
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shall remove the sign and structure. The residents miss seeing the time and
temperature when they go by that area, that is the landmark, so if that is not
working, then the landmark classification is also gone, and the structure is non-
conforming and would need to be removed. The variance is being given to him
because we are establishing a hardship on him to keep that structure, so he needs to
spend a lot of money to keep the structure in the front of his building which
decreases the visibility to his property.
Commissioner Hargrave suggested changing the wording in condition #5 from "in
case the clock operating ceases, the non -conforming structure must be removed,"
should be changed to may be removed, therefore, not necessarily forcing him to
remove that structure in case operation of the clock stops.
The Planning Director said that if the clock stops operating, it would void the
variance. In terms of changing the findings of the variance, she was not prepared to
do that right now, unless the Commission wanted to develop the findings then and
she could write them down, because she has researched this several times in several
ways and cannot find a way to make findings from the Specific Plan to approve this
project. It has several variance counts that do not meet any directions, any intent;
so if the Planning Commission feels it is not meeting the Specific Plan guidelines and
this is not a landmark, she has no way to make approval findings.
r Chairman Buchanan asked if the applicant was not trying to put a sign on that
structure, because the structure pre-existed the Specific Plan adoption, would the City
have to require the removal of that structure. The Planning Director said yes,
because it would be considered an abandoned sign structure and would need to be
removed.
Commissioner Hargrave suggested language "In case the clock operating ceases, the
non -conforming structure must be brought into compliance with the Barton Road
Specific Plan Sign Regulations," which the Plan could change in the future.
PUBLIC HEARING OPENED
JOE KOHORST
11841 HONEY HILL DRIVE
GT
Applicant stated that he is willing to pay the maintenance for the clock ($387.00 per
month). The structure is basically a sign. The clock was part of the sign to be a
community service, but the original reason for it was the sign. It was always lit.
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
MOTION
PCM-92-63
VARI4,NCE-92-02
Commissioner Hargrave made the motion to change the wording in condition #5 to
"In case the clock operating ceases, the non -conforming structure must come into
conformance with the Barton Road Specific Plan Sign Regulations instead of shall
be removed. Chairman Buchanan revised the wording to: "The time and
temperature portion of the structure shall operate accurately consistently and
regularly, otherwise this variance will be null and void. This variance is
recommended for approval for the sole purpose to keep a historical landmark which
offers a service to the community. In case the clock operating ceases, the sign
structure must be brought in conformance with the Barton Road Specific Plan Sign
Regulations." Commissioner Hargrave concurred. Commissioner Wilson seconded.
MOTION
PCM-92-63
VOTE
Motion carried. 6-0-0-0
MOTION
PCM-92-64
E-92-02
Commissioner Hargrave moved for approval of E-92-02 as amended. Commissioner
Munson seconded.
MOTION
PCM-92-64
VOTE
Motion carried. 6-0-0-0
ITEM #4
CUP-92-03/E-92-11
TOM MULLINS
INLAND TIMBER COMPANY
21850 MAIN AVENUE
GT
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APPLICATION FOR ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
FOR THE INSTALLATION OF A RESAW FOR A WHOLESALE LUMBER COMPANY
IN THE MR ZONE
Chairman Buchanan said they would combine discussion on both the Environmental
Review and Site and Architectural Review.
The Planning Director gave the project report. Notices were remailed as before and
no comments have been received so far other than one today from Mr. Easter. The
staff recommended expansion of the CUP to address expansion of the use and also
for the applicant to pay for a noise test conducted by a city -selected expert and the
have city monitor the process. The applicant has submitted everything the staff and
City have suggested and required. The Planning Director also presented an
amendment to the noise conditions which took into consideration the noise study.
She went on to read the revised Conditions to the CUP.
Chairman Buchanan asked if Condition # 1 should not read "closure of proposed
resaw required prior to final inspection as per noise consultant recommendation."
The Planning Director agreed.
The Planning Director's recommendation is approval of the Negative Declaration
and approval of the Resolution with the findings and conditions just presented and
as amended.
Applicant has done everything to comply with the noise consultant's suggestions.
They would be willing to do anything to keep and/or bring the noise level down.
PUBLIC HEARING OPENED
DON STOBAUGH
INLAND TIMBER COMPANY
21850 MAIN STREET
GT
Mr. Stobaugh had two concerns: (1) the company owns 9.2 acres of the property and
leases approximately 7 acres (where the trees would be planted as a barrier). They
are willing to put the trees in at the proper time but the owner of the property is not
favorable to the idea. The point being that he cannot speak for them, but applicant
is willing to do anything necessary. (2) Regarding the hours of operation, they have
cut back from 10:00 P.M. to 9:00 P.M. and they do not want to stop the third resaw
at 7:00 P.M., but if that is what is necessary, they will do it.
CHESTER EASTER
21963 TANAGER
GT
Mr. Easter informed the Commission that no one on Tanager and Royal Streets
received any notice of the meeting. The Planning Director made note of the fact
that staff sent notices not only to residents within 300 feet of the property (as
required by law), but to residents within 1,500 feet of the property. Mr. Easter said
there were about 15 people he knew of who had not received notices either.
Mr. Easter asked if in the future, the applicant did expand their operations, would
the same criteria apply as it does now. The Planning Director informed him that it
is staffs intention that every new proposal cannot go above the 64.8 dbs, which is the
current noise level, and should actually decrease it a little bit.
He went on to say that he agrees with Mr. Stobaugh in saying that the land he is
leasing from Mr. Thompson would be difficult to plant trees. He would prefer no
trees be planted.
Mr. Easter thanked Inland Timber and the Planning Department staff for all their
hard work and cooperation in resolving a problem that has existed for years. He
and his neighbors are very appreciative and thankful for this accomplishment.
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
MOTION
PCM-92-65
CUP-92-03/E-92-11
Chairman Hargrave made a motion to eliminate Condition #6 relating to planting
eucalyptus on the Conditions of Approval. Chairman Buchanan seconded the
motion.
MOTION
PCM-92-65
VOTE
Motion carried. 6-0-0-0 Commissioner Wilson absent.
MOTION
PCM-92-66
CUP-92-03/E-92-11
Chairman Buchanan made the motion to amend other conditions as proposed by
staff. Commissioner Hargrave seconded the motion.
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MOTION
PCM-92-66
VOTE
Motion carried. 6-0-0-0 Commissioner Wilson absent.
ITEM 5
SA-92-12
TOM MULLINS
INLAND LUMBER COMPANY
21850 MAIN AVENUE
GT
APPLICATION FOR SITE AND ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW FOR THE INSTALLATION
OF A RESAW FOR A WHOLESALE LUMBER COMPANY IN THE MR ZONE
MOTION
PCM-92-67
SA-92-12
Commissioner Sims made a motion for approval of SA-92-12. Commissioner Van
Gelder seconded the motion.
MOTION
PCM-92-67
VOTE
Motion carried. 6-0-0-0 Commissioner Wilson absent.
SITE AND ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD CONVENED.
The only item on the agenda was SA-92-12 and the Commission had already
discussed that.
PUBLIC HEARING OPENED
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
MOTION
PCM-92-68
SA-82-12
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Commissioner Sims made the motion for approval of SA-92-12. Commissioner
Munson seconded the motion.
MOTION
PCM-92-68
VOTE
Motion carried. 6-0-0-0 Commissioner Wilson absent.
SITE AND ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD ADJOURNED.
NEXT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TO BE HELD ON NOVEMBER 19, 1992.
Respectfully submitted,
Patrizia Materassi
Planning Director
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Approved by,
Dan Buchanan
Chairman, Planning Commission