12/05/1988GRAND TERRACE PLANNING COMMISSION
MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING
DECEMBER 51 1988
The regular meeting of the Grand Terrace Planning Commission was
called to order at the Grand Terrace Civic Center, 22795 Barton
Road, Grand Terrace, California, on December 5, 1988 at 7:00 p.m.
by Chairman Stanley Hargrave.
PRESENT: Stanley Hargrave, Chairman
Jerry Hawkinson, Vice -Chairman
Dan Buchanan, Commissioner
Ray Munson, Commissioner
Jim Sims, Commissioner
Fran Van Gelder, Commissioner
David Sawyer, Community Development Director
Jeri Ram, Associate Planner
Maria Muett, Planning Secretary
ABSENT:: Herman Hilkey, Commissioner
John Harper, City Attorney
Joe Kicak, City Attorney
Pledge of Allegiance: Chairman Stanley Hargrave
WORKSHOP CONVENED AT 6:30 P.M.
Information/presented by staff to Commissioners
Information/Discussion by Commissioners
WORKSHOP ADJOURNED AT 7:00 P.M.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING CONVENED AT 7:00 P.M.
Chairman Hargrave opened the Planning Commission
Meeting with the first item.
Item #1
CUP-88-15
Fernanda Douglas/Second Family Unit
11821 Kingston Street
Grand Terrace, CA. 92324
The Associate Planner presented the staff report
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with the recommendations and conditions of approval
by staff, reviewing agencies and the City Engineer.
The Community Development Director added one
condition #3 approved by staff. Condition #3 -
"shall include that an agreement between the
property owner and the City stating that CUP-88-15
is approved subject to the condition that the
subject second family unit shall not be used for
rental property anytime in the future."
Discussion on whether the condition remains the same
if the property is sold.
The Community Development Director referred to the
application as a second family unit. He mentioned
the existing 1980 State Legislature Act, which
states that a City must have an ordinance which
provides for a single family owner to provide a
second family unit, "granny flat", on their property
in an R-1 area. The City of Grand Terrace does have
that ordinance and there are certain findings which
have to be made per that ordinance in order to make
that acceptable. The City can put a condition that
it only be used by family members and not be used
for rental purposes. The issue is to prevent any
usage of it for rental and that is why it would have
to be recorded at the County Recorder's Office so
that when the property is sold that agreement goes
with it.
Discussion on where the one parking place would be
located.
The Community Development Director pointed to the
plans and the proposed parking space next to the
garage area.
Discussion on the existing room and the contents of
the addition of the second family unit.
The Community Development Director pointed out that
the entryway into the second family unit would be
from the north. Any entryway into the existing room
as it stands now would be removed and it would be
replaced by a closet.
Discussion on the minor variance for the sideyard
setback reducing it from the required 10' to 81.
Commissioner Buchanan asked if it was considered in
knowing it was going to be the access route and the
entry faces the narrow area. He asked if staff was
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satisfied knowing it was going to be the entryway
into the second unit.
The Community Development Director explained that
it met with staff's approval.
Discussion on any potential interferrence of view
or visibility of the second family unit to the
surrounding neighbors.
The Community Development Director explained that
the unit would not be visible from the street. The
City code does not require additions to second
family units currently to come before Site and
Architectural Review Board.
Commissioner Buchanan asked, since this is the last
time the Planning Commission would be addressing
this project, should they be looking at additional
conditions such as roofing materials matching.
The Community Development Director explained that
one of the requirements of the second family unit
is that the architecture matches the existing.
Additional conditions are not required but it could
be maintained on a staff level.
PLANNING COMMISSION DISCUSSION ADJOURNED AT 7:25 P.M.
PUBLIC HEARING CONVENED AT 7:25 P.M.
1. Andy Brummer
11785 Kingston
G.T.
Mr. Brummer expressed his opposition to the second
family unit in the R-1 zone. He presented a
petition signed by residents in the area who were
also opposed to the project. He expressed his fear
that it would be used as a rental similar to one
existing on the block already.
2. Mrs. Fernanda Douglas
11821 Kingston Avenue
G.T.
Mrs. Douglas referred to the entryways for the
second family units. She explained that on the
south side there was a double sliding door which
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opens into the room. She understood and accepted
the additional condition #3. The purpose of her
second family unit is for her 92 year old mother.
She understood that the second family unit must
match the existing structure.
3. Ray Munson
11809 Kingston
G.T.
Mr. Munson expressed his approval of the additional
condition #3. He asked what would occur if Mrs.
Douglas moved into the addition and rented her
house, would the same condition apply.
The Community Development Director explained that
the intent would be that the second family unit
would be used for a family member of those that are
residing in the main residence. The concern that
needs to be put into the agreement is that she does
not move into the back house and rent out the front
house to a non -family member and that could be
included in the agreement.
Discussion on the standard size for a parking space
in the City of Grand Terrace. Her proposed parking
space of 8' wide would be an acceptable deviation
from the parking code requirement.
The Community Development Director explained that
a variance would not be required on the parking
space because he has the ability to have the
flexibility in the parking code.
Mr. Munson asked what the minimum lot according to
code.
The Community Development Director explained that
it was 100' in depth and the minimum rear yard
setback in that area is 151.
Mr. Munson questioned this stating he understood the
code to read 1501.
The Community Development Director stated staff
would check on this but he did not feel it would
make a difference on this application. He explained
that the only time a lot depth requirement came into
play was when a lot was being created. This project
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has a legal lot now and meets the setback
requirements.
Mr. Munson referred to Section 18.54.060 of the City
of Grand Terrace Municipal Code.
Discussion on the Municipal Code and its effect on
this current project. The Community Development
Director stated that it now becomes an issue for the
City Attorney whether or not legally that comes into
play with an existing unit on a existing lot or not.
Mr. Munson expressed his concern that this project
does not follow the rigid specifications of the city
ordinance and does cause hardships to the
surrounding neighborhood.
Commissioner Buchanan proposed that this item be
continued until the City Attorney could give his
advice on the issues. He asked the Community
Development Director if the state law gives the City
authority to restrict occupancy to blood relatives.
The Community Development Director explained that
it did not specifically. He stated that there must
be proof that it is a detriment to the entire
neighborhood according to the Code. He suggested
at this point this item should be continued in order
to allow the City Attorney to deal with the issue
of the 150' lot size.
4. Nancy Lynn
11798 Kingston Street
G.T.
Mrs. Lynn expressed her opposition to the project.
She stated that the petition represented the
neighborhood from Kingston Street between Eton and
Arliss. She provided to the Planning Commission a
status of those that signed the petition and those
that were not available or did not sign. She
reiterated the statements of Mr. Brummer and Mr.
Munson.
PUBLIC HEARING ADJOURNED AT 7:50 P.M.
PLANNING COMMISSION DISCUSSION CONVENED AT 7:50 P.M.
Chairman Hargrave asked Mrs. Douglas how many
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bedrooms she had in her current residence and number
of people in the home.
Mrs. Douglas stated that her daughter, her husband
and two grandchildren live there. One daughter is
away at college and does not reside in the home full
time.
Discussion on the issue of renting the second family
unit whether it was an issue of monies being
exchanged or living of blood relatives there.
The Community Development Director referred to the
state law that states, "...if the unit is for the
sole occupancy of one adult or two adult persons who
are 60 years of age or over and the area of the
dwelling space does not exceed 640 sq. feet."
Commissioner Van Gelder made the motion to continue
this item until the City Attorney address the
issues. Commissioner Buchanan second.
5-0-1-1. Motion carried. Commissioner Munson
abstained and Commissioner Hilkey absent.
PLANNING COMMISSION DISCUSSION ADJOURNED AT 7:55 P.M.
SITE AND ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD CONVENED AT 7:55 P.M.
Item #7
SA-88-18
Muhtaseb/Single Family Residence
22780 Vista Grande
G.T.
The Associate Planner presented the staff report
with the recommendations and conditions of approval
presented by staff, reviewing agencies and the City
Engineer.
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Commissioner Buchanan questioned if this item or any
other item on the agenda was in the Kangaroo Rat
Zone.
The Community Development Director explained that
there were not.
Commissioner Van Gelder asked when the Planning
Commission could expect a soils composition report
for this project.
The Community Development Director pointed out that
was one condition the City Engineer had on the
project. It would be required before building
permits could be issued and met staff's approval.
Discussion on the abstaining policy for Planning
Commissioners.
Discussion on drainage for this project dependent
on the upcoming soils report. The Planning
Commission expressed their concern with drainage
from south to north direction then that would cause
erosion on the slopes. The Planning Commission felt
the erosion and potential excavation for such a
large project would cause a safety problem.
Chairman Hargrave stated that he did not feel
fencing on the east side was necessary due to a
natural barrier already existing.
The Community Development Director explained that
the fencing should go around the perimeter of the
property.
PLANNING COMMISSION DISCUSSION ADJOURNED AT 8:05 P.M.
PUBLIC HEARING CONVENED AT 8:05 P.M.
No comments from the public.
PUBLIC HEARING ADJOURNED AT 8:05 P.M.
PLANNING COMMISSION DISCUSSION CONVENED AT 8:07 P.M.
Chairman Hargrave opened the discussion.
Commissioner Van Gelder asked how much space there
would be on the side and rear yards before the
fencing started.
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The Community Development Director pointed out the
perimeter lines including the lower areas for
fencing.
Commissioner Van Gelder made the motion to approve
SA-88-18 subject to the conditions listed.
Commissioners Ray Munson and Jerry Hawkinson second.
Commissioner Sims expressed his concern that the
soils report should be seen before voting.
The Community Development Director explained that
the City Engineer requests the soils report after
the project is presented to the Planning Commission.
He pointed out that the Planning Commission can
request that the soils report be submitted before
the approval of the project.
Commissioner Van Gelder asked what relationship
there was between this project and the proposed
hillside overlay zone.
The Community Development Director explained that
this project would be in the area of concern but
would not be effected by it. As far as the
development potential it would stay the same. He
pointed out that the area has already been graded.
5-1-1-0. Motion carried. Commissioner Sims voting
nay and Commissioner Hilkey absent.
Item #8
SA-88-20
Shimel/Single Family Dwelling
22226 Van Buren Avenue
G.T.
The Associate Planner presented the staff report
with the recommendations and conditions of approval
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from staff, reviewing agencies and the City
Engineer.
Chairman Hargrave opened discussion for the Planning
Commission.
Discussion on the material board and concrete
roofing materials.
Discussion on the fencing recommendation from staff
of stakewood fencing similar to the surrounding
areas.
PLANNING COMMISSION DISCUSSION ADJOURNED AT 8:20 P.M.
PUBLIC HEARING CONVENED AT 8:20 P.M.
1. Gary Robinson
Stonewood Construction
22145 De Berry Avenue
G.T.
Mr. Robinson presented their project. He asked the
procedures on submitting the landscaping and
irrigation plans.
The Community Development Director explained the
condition regarding planting and submittal of the
irrigation plans. It would allow staff to work with
the applicant on the materials, sizing of the
materials, the spacing of the materials.
Discussion on the automatic sprinkling systems per
the City standard.
Mr. Robinson mentioned if there would be any problem
with changing to the gray slate look with red tile.
The Community Development Director referred to the
condition that staff would have to approve the color
selection if it differs from what is being presented
this evening.
Discussion on the Fire Warden's recommendation of
building a 1500 gallon GPMs. Currently there is one
under construction in the lot next door. The
applicant asked if the recommendation had been
fulfilled by either the water district or someone
else.
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The Community Development Director directed the
applicant to contact the Riverside Highland Water
Company to obtain a will serve letter.
PUBLIC HEARING ADJOURNED AT 8:30 P.M.
PLANNING COMMISSION DISCUSSION CONVENED AT 8:30 P.M.
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Chairman Hargrave opened the discussion for a
motion.
Vice -Chairman Hawkinson made the motion to approve
SA-88-20 with the inclusion of the five conditions
as recommended by the Planning Department.
Commissioner Van Gelder second.
6-0-1-0. Motion carried. Commissioner .Hilkey
absent.
BREAK AT 8:30 P.M.
SITE AND ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD RECONVENED 8:40 P.M.
Chairman Hargrave opened the discussion with item
# 6.
Item #6
SA-88-15
SA/Industrial Center
Robert Wessels (Owner)
21516 Main Street
G.T.
Item #3
CUP-88-13
Central City Recycling Center
21516 Main Street
G.T.
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Item #4
CUP-88-14
Domtar Gypsum Products
21516 Main Street
G.T.
Item #5
CUP-88-17
American Modular Structures, Inc.
21516 Main Street
G.T.
The Community Development Director presented the
staff report with the recommendations and conditions
of approval by staff, reviewing agencies and the
City Engineer. He explained the history on the
property and future plans by the applicant.
He explained that they should first look at the Site
and Architectural Review on the site itself and then
three individual Conditional Use Permits for the
Site and Architectural features. The conditions and
recommendations are similar for all three CUPS.
He also explained that earlier a Negative
Declaration report was to have been prepared.
However after further study determined that a
categorical exemption was acceptable under the Class
I Subsection E CEQA.
Chairman Hargrave opened the discussion on the Site
and Architectural Review.
Discussion on the Fire Warden's recommendation for
signs to be installed that would be seen from the
street. The process would be to meet the
requirements of the sign ordinance and approved by
staff.
Commissioner Sims asked what type of independent
landscaped treatment would be applicable for Domtar
Gypsum.
The Community Development Director explained the
entry treatment needed similar to Golden Aluminum's
project (SA-88-10). The only difference being a
public right of way with residential property across
the way.
Discussion on the property owner (Domtar Gypsum) who
has an easement capability with the railroad to
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allow access from this property.
Commissioner Sims asked if the Community Development
Director was proposing a landscaped area on the
railroad side of the Domtar Gypsum side.
The Community Development Director stated that was
not necessary however work needs to be done with the
fencing.
Discussion on entry treatment along with oleander
style integrated with fencing to help the visibility
issues.
The Community Development Director mentioned that
the wall along with some of the requirements from
the City Engineer have been things that the City in
the past has worked out in deferrment agreements.
Discussion on the uses of the three applicants and
traffic circulation from company trucks and private
vehicles.
The Community Development Director cautioned the
Planning Commission to look closely at the
applicant/Central City Recycling to insure plenty
of visual blockage between their operation and the
public street. He referred to their San Bernardino
Operation.
Commissioner Buchanan asked the Community
Development Director to clarify if he saw problems
with the circulation pattern and entrance at the
eastend of Central City Recycling.
The Community Development Director stated that he
would prefer to see all of the entrances on the west
end of the property away from the easements. He
stated that if the owner of the property could show
that they have a legal easement which has been
recorded, per the request of the City Attorney, then
the Planning Commission could grant access across
this.
Discussion on the alignment of the fencing which
needs to be changed and concerns over the parking
area. These issues could be addressed on a staff
level.
Discussion on traffic circulation and access to the
three different sites.
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The Community Development Director explained that
the Central City Recycling does not need access to
the spur only Domtar Gypsum. Domtar Gypsum
indicated that they have access by the railroad.
The City Attorney mentioned that he needs to see a
legal document that has been recorded and indicates
that it is an actual easement. This would be
necessary before the permits are issued.
Discussion on business hours and proposed condition
to address evening hours of operation for pickups
by Central City Recycling.
Commissioner Sims asked how the entrance area for
the general public would be policed to prevent
delivery trucks from access.
The Community Development Director explained that
the entrance would be gated off after normal
business hours and the truck traffic would be
redirected.
Chairman Hargrave inquired if there was verification
from the title holder that the 30 foot private road
on the westside of the property was a valid
easement.
The Community Development Director explained that
was not an easement but private property.
Discussion on the Fire Warden's Letter initial
letter dated November 23, 1988 with the fire hydrant
requirement. Commissioner Buchanan referred to the
subsequent letter dated November 30, 1988 indicated
a revision, "... 50 ft. unobstructed opening gated
access to fire hydrant delete original #1, " and
asked for clarification.
The Community Development Director explained that
there were existing fences which had been put in for
the purpose of subdividing. The orginal intent was
to have gates which would have fire access. The
fire department originally rejected that and did not
want obstructions. Since that time the applicant
met with the Fire Warden's Office and as a
compromise the Fire Warden's Office indicated that
the fences could remain however that singular fire
hydrant must have 50' gates and access in all
directions for all property lines.
Commissioner Buchanan asked if the larger access
would not require most of the proposed parking.
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The Community Development Director explained that
it would not.
Discussion on the grading and drainage on the
property. The City Engineer indicated that if there
is any grading he would need to see the grading
plans and one of his areas of concerns is to make
sure the drainage pattern would not be disrupted.
Discussion on the blacktop areas of the project.
One of the proposed conditions is that the area be
resurfaced and that the striping be brought up to
standard.
Discussion regarding the standard sidewalk condition
as proposed. In response to Chairman Hargrave's
question it would be similar to the one on Main
Avenue.
Discussion on the discrepancies on the plans
regarding the fence lines and gate entryways. The
Community Development Director directed the Planning
Commission to refer to SA-88-15 for accuracy in the
dimensions.
Chairman Hargrave asked the Community Development
Director for direction in proceeding further either
into the public hearing or addressing each CUP's
conditions for the benefit of the Site and
Architectural Review.
CUP-88-13
Central City Recycling
CUP-88-14
Domtar Gypsum Products
CUP-88-17
American Modular Structures
The Community Development Director presented the CUP
conditions, including the additional request to
prove legal railroad access by Domtar Gypsum.
Commissioner Sims referred to the modular structure
for SA-88-15 and if it would be the same structure
as indicated in the renderings.
The Community Development Director suggested asking
the applicant since they had not indicated the
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elevations of that structure.
Discussion on the existing buildings on the property
and need for improvements.
PLANNING COMMISSION DISCUSSION ADJOURNED AT 9:30 P.M.
PUBLIC HEARING CONVENED AT 9:30 P.M.
1. Adam Ornelas
16 Highland Avenue
Riverside, CA.
Mr. Ornelas is a property owner across the street
on Main Avenue. He expressed his concern with the
Central City Recycling Center and the maintenance
problem. He referred to problems with the Santa
Ana winds blowing the papers around and the need to
secure the materials. He stated that years earlier
the Riverside County had taken an official noise
level registration and confirmed that the previous
recycling center had surpassed the legal noise
level. He also pointed out another problem from
earlier projects, that of parking on the southside
on Main Avenue. He stated that he is not opposed
to the project but would like more environmental and
health control on the recycling center.
The Community Development Director explained that
was the reason for the condition. The public
business would be required to cease at 6:00 p.m. and
the applicant could have their pickups or deliveries
until 10:00 p.m no later similar to the noise
ordinance.
2. Frank Garza
44 Highland Avenue
Riverside, CA.
Mr. Garza stated that he was a neighbor, two doors
down, by Mr. Ornelas. He agreed with Mr. Ornelas
but did want to add a concern about the height
requirement of the wall to prevent debris and
newspapers from littering his property and causing
a fire hazard. He suggested that all of the
materials should be under enclosures or roofs. He
referred to the applicant's proposal to use slag in
the area that did not have asphalt. He cautioned
the Commission to be aware that slag, after much
is
use, causes a health hazard. He had worked with the
material for 19 years at the Kaiser Steel Plant in
Fontana.
Chairman Hargrave explained that the proposed wall
would be 6' feet.
Discussion on the easements and the canal that run
through the property.
The Community Development Director explained that
staff did not receive any comments from the Gage
Canal and the Health Services Department on the
proposed project. However, staff will make contact
the Health Services Department regarding the newly
addressed issues.
3. Robert Wessels
3890 Swenson Avenue
Las Vegas, NV.89119
Mr. Wessels has been the property owner since 1974.
He stated that the original modular business was his
and all of the buildings that were put up, with the
exception of two, were permitted under the County
of San Bernardino. He mentioned that the curb and
gutter were permitted under the County of San
Bernardino. He stated that there were three
driveways to the property; one of which he gave to
Golden Aluminum Recycling. One is close to the
office that does have a gate for ingress and egress.
The third site cuts back on the curb and is adjacent
to his property going to the railroad property.
Mr. Wessels expressed his concern with the
conditions and the costs of the proposed. He
referred to building permits pulled from one of his
tenants back in 1986. At that time the City
required him to place a special fire hydrant and
required the oleanders and the rearrangement of the
fencing. In regards to the Fire Warden's Office
requirement of the 50' gate he felt it needs to be
addressed. He asked for a waiver on the requirement
of a 6' block wall along the front of the property
due to the high costs. He described the existing
intermittent fence with barb wire that reaches 7'
in height. He questioned the need for putting the
interior landscaping within the property itself at
the entrance. He asked for a waiver on the
resurfacing requirement due to the reduction of
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employees by the new tenants thus less parking
needed. In reference to the easement along the
railroad track, there exists a team spur which will
be used by Domtar Gypsum. There is property outside
the fence which belongs to them and could be used
for an egress.
Mr. Wessels mentioned that the structures 'on the
property are coated with a 20 year baked enamel.
He stated that the office buildings were repainted
approximately two years ago. He presented a
description of the site and architectural features
of the existing structures.
Discussion on the eastend of the property and the
legal right of access across the railroad property.
Mr. Wessels stated that originally when he built the
property he deeded to the railroad a reciprocal use
situation. It was never recorded.
Chairman Hargrave requested the three CUPs to
address the Commission.
4. Central City Recycling
Ron Glass (Manager)
James Fagelson (District Manager)
Bob Rios (Local Manager)
(Owners -Garden State Paper)
21516 Main Street
G.T.
Mr. Glass presented Garden State Paper's recycling
procedures in areas of operation across the United
States. He stated he wanted to describe their
background to ease some of the earlier concerns
expressed by the residents surrounding the project.
Discussion on the number of pickups and deliveries
of recycling materials. Mr. Fagelson explained that
their own trucks that come from the mill would
average about 4-5. They will be parked inside the
facility.
Discussion of the recycling procedures for the
newspapers, aluminum cans and the shipping out of
the processed materials.
Commissioner Van Gelder asked what would happen to
the leftover materials at the end of the work day.
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Mr. Fagelson explained that newspapers would be
stored inside the warehouse in large containers
ready for shipping.
Discussion of what types of recyclable materials
(high grades of glass, plastic containers) they will
be handling at their plant.
Discussion on their business opening at 7:30 a.m.
for their company trucks and public use at 8:00 a.m.
Commissioner Sims reiterated Commissioner Van
Gelder's concern with any loose materials at the
site.
Mr. Fagelson explained that there would be loose
paper leftover everyday but they do have a cleanup
policy to take care of debris.
Discussion on the noise level at the site. Mr.
Fagelson explained that the loudest piece of
equipment would be the can flatteners which is run
only during the day.
Discussion on the number of employees which averages
at 8.
Discussion on the public traffic which will average
10% of the recyclables.
Commissioner Munson referred to the fence along Main
Street which had been modified to allow for parking.
Mr. Glass mentioned that there would be a truck
turnaround from the northside. Also, they would
store their containers away from visible view from
the street.
Chairman Hargrave asked if the legal access issue
through the railroad property on the eastside cannot
be determined did the applicant see a problem with
public traffic entering on the westside entrance.
Mr. Fagelson mentioned that they would prefer to see
it on the eastside because they wish to place their
scale on the office side. They wanted to keep the
northwest area free of customer traffic because that
would be their area of operation. Another reason
is that the westend is much narrower and difficult
to negotiate the turns.
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Discussion on similar recycling plants in other
areas and other cities enclosure requirements, i.e.,
chain link, block walls.
Discussion by the Planning Commission stating they
would prefer to see a block wall treatment for
aesthetics and debris control.
Discussion on the hours
public 8:00 a.m. to 6:00
sometimes need to operate
company trucks to unload.
of operations, for the
p.m. The facility would
until 10:00 p.m. for the
Chairman Hargrave pointed out that the City does
have a noise ordinance until 10:00 p.m. and if their
facility was in operation after that time they would
be in violation.
6. Frank Garza
44 Highland Avenue
Riverside, CA.
Mr. Garza expressed his concern with the time
factor. His property is next to a commercial area,
Riverside County, and the businesses operate past
a 10:00 p.m. deadline. He felt an earlier time
restriction should be placed on this project.
Item #5
1. Bruce Bushore (President)
American Modular Structures
21516 Main Street
G.T.
BREAK AT 10:40 P.M.
SITE AND ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD RECONVENED AT 10:50 P.M.
Mr. Bushore presented his project and described the
manufacturing process for the sheet rock at American
Modular Structures. He mentioned that the nosiest
piece of equipment would be an air compressor.
Their employee parking will be inside near their
facility.
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Vice -Chairman Hawkinson asked if the existing
fencing inside the site were to come down so that
they could share the parking, would that present a
problem.
Mr. Bushore explained that it would present a
problem for the employees at all three sites.
Discussion on the Fire Warden's recommendation for
the fencing and gates.
Discussion on the proposed modular building to match
existing structure on the site.
Discussion on the manufacturing and shipping process
of the product. They do not maintain a large
inventory. They will use the northern entrance to
bring the framework onto the manufacturing site.
There will be a small amount of sales tax.
Item #4
Alan Ziegler
Domtar Gypsum Products
21516 Main Avenue
G.T.
Mr. Ziegler expressed his confusion with the
conditional use process and requested the Planning
Commission to ask the questions.
Discussion on the facility to be used for storage
of materials from their mill by rail. They will
move approximately 10 40' trucks a day and will
operate with three employees. Their hours of
operation will be 6:00 a.m. - 2:00 p.m.
Chairman Hargrave asked when the noise ordinance
went into effect in the morning.
The Community Development Director stated it starts
at 7:00 a.m. in the morning.
Mr. Ziegler stated they can adjust their hours to
start at 7 : 00 a.m. in accordance with the ordinance.
Discussion on the lease for access across the
railroad easement. Mr. Ziegler was informed that
the City Attorney requested a legal document.
The Community Development Director suggested
modifying the condition to state that the City
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Attorney is satisfied with the legality of the
railroad easement access. This would not answer the
problem however for the Central City Recycling
Center.
Mr. Ziegler referred to a letter on file giving the
Central City Recycling access off their lease.
The Community Development Director stated that would
be submitted to the City Attorney and if it meets
his approval then the CDD would be satisfied.
Discussion on the traffic circulation and customer
traffic. The customer traffic would be corporate.
Since this is a distribution site this will not
generate sales tax.
PLANNING COMMISSION DISCUSSION ADJOURNED AT 11:00 P.M.
Commissioner Buchanan mentioned that the is
supportive of a condition requiring the 6' block
wall. In regards to the condition requiring the
striping and resurfacing he would be inclined to
modify that condition #9, that it be surfaced and
striped in accordance with approved parking
locations and access ways to satisfaction of the
Community Development Director.
The Community Development Director mentioned that
they would have to go back to the Environmental
Health Services in regards to the slag issue.
Therefore he suggested a revision of condition #9.
Discussion on the resurfacing and quality of the
existing and proposed materials to be used.
Chairman Hargrave made the suggestion that they add
the wording in condition #9 that the striping and
surfacing be maintained.
The Community Development Director explained that
condition #4 already referred to landscaping and
improvements being maintained.
Commissioner Buchanan asked about amending condition
#11 to establish legal access of the railroad
property.
The Community Development Director suggested that
a condition #11 could be added to read..."the
documents providing evidence of legal access across
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MOTION
PCM-88-94
MOTION
VOTE
PCM-88-94
the railroad property shall be approved by the City
Attorney."
Commissioner Sims made the motion to approve SA-88-
15, including conditions as revised. Condition #9
changed to read that the surface material at the
site shall be submitted to the Environmental Health
Services Department for comments and the entire site
shall be surfaced and striped in accordance with the
approved parking locations, fireways and accessways
deemed necessary by the Planning Department. A
condition #11 shall be added to read, "...the
documents providing evidence of legal access across
the railroad property shall be submitted to approved
by the City Attorney". Vice -Chairman Hawkinson
second.
Motion carried. 6-0-1-0. Commissioner Hilkey
absent.
Chairman Hargrave asked Mr. Wessels if he had any
questions regarding the Site and Architectural
Review.
Mr. Wessels asked for clarification of condition #6.
The Community Development Director explained that
the applicant would have the same comments regarding
the engineer's requirement of dedication of 44' half
street and installation of standard sidewalks and
ornamental street lights are all tied together with
the wall improvement. He stated that the Planning
Commission could make a motion that would allow
staff to take those items to Council in an deferral
agreement.
Discussion on the feasibility of the Planning
Commission wanting to defer those items.
The Community Development Director mentioned that
if the deferral is not taken to the City Council
then the applicant can appeal within a ten day
period.
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Chairman Hargrave informed the applicant of the
appealing process.
SITE AND ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD ADJOURNED AT 11:10 P.M.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING RECONVENED AT 11:10 P.M.
MOTION
PCM-88-95
MOTION
VOTE
PCM-88-95
MOTION
PCM-88-96
AMEND
MOTION
PCM-88-96
Chairman Hargrave made the motion, CUP-88-13, to
modify condition #4 to change the activity within
the facility from 10:00 p.m. to 9:30 p.m.
Commissioner Van Gelder second.
Motion carried. 6-0-1-0. Commissioner Hilkey absent.
Commissioner Buchanan made the motion to approve
CUP-88-13 based on the findings and conditions as
set forth in the planning department's report and
modified.
The Community Development Director suggested adding
two conditions. Condition #5 to read the storage
of paper products shall be within the warehouse
structure and condition #6 that all parking shall
be restricted on site.
Commissioner Buchanan amended his motion to adopt
two additional conditions. Condition #5 to read the
storage of paper products shall be within the
warehouse structure or in a fully closed container
and condition #6 that all parking shall be
restricted on site. Commissioner Sims second.
Discussion on the enforcement of employee and public
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MOTION
VOTE
PCM-88-96
MOTION
PCM-88-97
MOTION
PCM-88-97
VOTE
MOTION
PCM-88-98
MOTION
PCM-88-98
VOTE
parking on site.
Commissioner Buchanan suggested that condition #5
should also be amended to read "or a fully closed
container". The second concurrred. Refer to
motion.
Motion carried. 6-0-1-0. Commissioner Hilkey
absent.
Discussion on the business hours of operation. The
Planning Commission concurrred that defined hours
of operation needed to be amended.
Commissioner Sims made the motion to amend the
condition that the hours of business operation from
7:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. Monday through Saturday.
Motion carried. 6-0-1-0. Commissioner Hilkey
absent.
Vice -Chairman Hawkinson made to the motion to accept
CUP-88-14 subject to the inclusion of the
recommendations by the Planning Department. Also
that the hours of business operation from 7:00 a.m.
to 6:00 p.m. Monday through Saturday. Chairman
Hargrave second.
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MOTION
PCM-88-99
MOTION
PCM-88-99
VOTE
Motion carried. 6-0-1-0. Commissioner Hilkey
absent.
Commissioner Buchanan made the motion that they
adopt the findings of the planning staff with
respect to CUP-88-17 and approve CUP-88-17 with
conditions of approval as set forth by the staff and
additional 4th condition of the business hours of
operation Monday through Saturday 7:00 a.m. to 6:00
p.m. Vice -Chairman Hawkinson second.
Motion carried. 6-0-1-0. Commissioner Hilkey
absent.
Discussion on the Special Workshop dealing with the
Hillside Overlay Zone tentative scheduled for
December 12, 1988 at 6:00 p.m. The Planning
Commissioners requested backup material prior to the
meeting.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING ADJOURNED AT 11:28 P.M.
Respectfully Submitted,
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David R. Sawyer,
Community Development Director
P.C. MTG. 12/5/88
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Approved by,
V&1'� 4.v4z,4'1�
St n ey Harg ave,
Chairman
Planning Co ission