05/15/1997GRAND TERRACE PLANNING COMMISSION
MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING
MAY 15, 1997
The regular meeting of the Grand Terrace Planning Commission was called to order at the Grand
Terrace Civic Center, 22795 Barton Road, Grand Terrace, California on May 15, 1997 at 7:00
p.m. by Vice -Chairperson, Fran Van Gelder.
PRESENT: Fran Van Gelder, Vice -Chairperson
Doug Wilson, Commissioner
Moire Huss, Commissioner
Matthew Addington, Commissioner
Mary Trainor, Commissioner
Patrizia Materassi, Community Development Director
Hally Cappiello, Associate Planner
Pat Peterson, Community Development Department Secretary
Raul Colunga, Planning Intern
ABSENT: Jimmy Sims, Chairperson
Gerry Ellis, Commissioner
* Call to Order
* Pledge of Allegiance led by Commissioner Huss
* Roll Call
* Public address to Commission shall be limited to three minutes unless extended by the
Chairman. Should you desire to make a longer presentation, please make written
request to be agendized to the Community Development Director.
PUBLIC PARTICIPATION: None
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ITEM#1
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES - MAY 19 1997
MOTION
PCM-97-30
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES - MAY 1, 1997
Commissioner Wilson made a motion to approve the Planning Commission Meeting Minutes
from the May 1, 1997 meeting.
Seconded by Commissioner Addington.
MOTION
VOTE
PCM-97-30
Motion carried. 5-0-2-0. Chairman Sims and Commissioner Ellis absent.
ITEM#2
CUP-97-01/SA-97-01/DU-97-01 and E-97-01
AN APPLICATION FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, SITE AND ARCHITECTURAL
REVIEW, DETERMINATION OF USE AND THE ASSOCIATED ENVIRONMENTAL
REVIEW TO ESTABLISH A CONTRACTOR'S STORAGE YARD WITH ANCILLARY
OFFICE USE AND METAL STORAGE BUILDING IN THE MR (RESTRICTED
MANUFACTURING) AREA ON PICO STREET.
TOM TORRES/TNT CONSTRUCTORS
PARCEL NUMBER 277-111-09 PICO STREET, GRAND TERRACE, CA
Staff report was presented by Associate Planner, Hally Cappiello. Zoning of the subject property
is Restrict Manufacturing (MR), as are the properties to the South and West of the subject
property. Properties to the East are zoned R-1 7.2. She announced that Tom Torres, the
applicant and sole proprietor of TNT Constructors was present at the meeting.
Ms. Cappiello said applicant proposes to erect a 3600 square foot steel building on subject
property to store light duty vehicles associated with his business. There is an Edison easement
along the eastern property line and a public utility easement belonging to the City of Riverside.
Photos and a brochure were presented to the Planning Commission to illustrate examples of the
type of building and materials proposed by applicant. She said if the Planning Commission
approved this project it would set a precedent. The metal building industry has made significant
advances in the architectural aesthetics in recent years. Staff felt metal structures with the
proposed architectural details are compatible with the MR area. Ms. Cappiello explained if the
Planning Commission does not agree that the proposed building is compatible a zoning amendment
will be required. If they do agree that it is compatible, additional conditions may be imposed at
their discretion.
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The proposed use as a contractor's storage yard is conditionally permitted in the MR District.
Staff determined applicant can meet the required 6 parking spaces based upon the office space and
area for storage of goods. Applicant intends to use the building to store vehicles and equipment.
With regards to noise, the applicant stated to staff that he will not be using any vehicles or
equipment with diesel engines. A ten foot wide strip of landscape buffering will be used around
the perimeter of the property to mitigate noise. A noise study will be required of applicant should
there be two or more noise complaints.
The proposed color of the building is tan with a red tile mansard. The trash enclosure will match
the building.
There are no unresolved issues with the applicant.
Commissioner Trainor expressed concern about the City of Riverside easement running through
the property. Director Materassi assured her the plans were routed to the City of Riverside for
comment, and should there be a break in the water line due to construction or operation of
applicant's business the liability will lie with the developer. Ms. Cappiello said the final
construction and landscape plans will be reviewed again per the request of the City of Riverside
before their final approval.
Commissioner Addington brought to staff's attention that the driving aisle as proposed may not
meet City's parking code. Director agreed it does not meet code requirements.
7:30 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING OPENED
Tom Torres
He introduced himself as the applicant. He corrected staff by saying the roof of the
building is to be metal, not tile. Only the color is the same. He pointed out the City of
Riverside water line running under his property also runs under Pico St. and said he is
aware heavy equipment such as cranes and caterpillars could cause a problem with the
water line. He does not use heavy equipment. His heaviest equipment is a forklift and
a 2-ton truck. He is a public works contractor and erects many steel buildings for
governmental agencies. He said his contracts generally last for extended periods so he
feels his business will be an ideal buffer between the adjacent residences and other
manufacturing because his crews will probably not be in and out of the storage yard on a
daily basis. He said he will not be storing any large amount of lumber as it is generally
delivered directly to the building site by the lumber provider.
The storage building will be used to store such items as compressors, generators and other
small equipment to be protected from the elements.
Vice -chairperson Van Gelder asked Mr. Torres what time of day his crews will be arriving at the
yard to pick up equipment. Mr. Torres said 7:00 a.m.
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Wendell Halterman
12750 Royal Avenue
Grand Terrace, CA
He said he lives adjacent to the subject property. He asked where on the lot the metal
building will be placed and the height of the building. He was concerned about
obstruction of his view.
Director Materassi responded the building will be 15' 11 " in height. The building will be placed
approximately 110' from Mr. Halterman's property line.
Juleta Halterman
12750 Royal Avenue
Grand Terrace, CA
She said in the past they have had a dust problem caused by the forklifts at the lumber
company and noise from Inland Timber.
Mr. Torres stated the entire area will be paved.
7:45 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
MOTION
PCM-97-31
Commissioner Addington made a motion to amend condition #2 from "2 or more" to "3 or
more complaints."
Motion seconded by Commissioner Huss.
MOTION
VOTE
PCM-97-31
Motion carried. 5-0-2-0. Chairman Sims and Commissioner Ellis absent.
MOTION
PCM-97-32
Motion made by Commissioner Addington that the applicant be required to comply with the
City parking code, condition #13 of the revised conditions.
Motion seconded by Commissioner Trainor.
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MOTION
VOTE
PCM-97-32
Motion carried. 5-0-2-0. Chairman Sims and Commissioner Ellis absent.
MOTION
PCM-97-33
Commissioner Addington made a motion to approve CUP-97-01, SA-97-01 and E-97-01.
Motion seconded by Commissioner Huss.
MOTION
VOTE
PCM-97-33
Motion carried. 5-0-2-0. Chairman Sims and Commissioner Ellis absent.
Director Materassi said staff is comfortable with applicant's proposal to erect a metal building and
feels it is compatible with materials used in the area and recommends approval.
Commissioner Addington asked that the applicant be recalled to clarify the question of the color of
the roof.
Vice -Chairperson Van Gelder asked Mr. Torres to return to the microphone. Mr. Torres said this
type of pre -manufactured building comes in earth tones. He will use whatever the Planning
Commission desires. It will look neat and he will be certain there is a manufacturer's warranty on
the paint.
MOTION
PCM-97-34
Commissioner Addington made a motion to approve DU-97-01
Vice -Chairperson Van Gelder seconded the motion.
MOTION
PCM-97-34
Motion carried. 5-0-2-0. Chairman Sims and Commissioner Ellis absent.
Commissioner Addington announced he abstain on Item #3.
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ITEM #3
Z-97-01/E-97-02
AN APPLICATION TO RECONSIDER THE DECISION OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION ON APRIL 17, 1997, TO REQUIRE A FORMAL SITE AND
ARCHITECTURE REVIEW FOR THE PLAYGROUND RELOCATION AREA.
SOUTHEASTERN CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF SEVENTH -DAY
ADVENTISTS/AZURE HILLS S.D.A. CHURCH
PARCEL NUMBERS 277-161-32 AND 277-161-33 CITY CENTER COURT, GRAND
TERRACE
Director Materassi presented the staff report. She stated the applicant did not appeal the previous
Planning Commission decision of April 17, 1997 to the City Council. They chose to bring the
matter back to the Planning Commission to seek reconsideration because applicant felt the Planning
Commission decision to formally review the playground was made partially on a document which
was not officially approved by the school. City Attorney agreed the reconsideration process is
appropriate.
Director referred the Planning Commission to Attachment A, applicant's letter of intent, which
states the conceptual drawing considered by the Planning Commission on April 17, was unauthorized
by the school. It also states a landscape and irrigation plan will be submitted for approval at staff
level.
Director Materassi stated staff is comfortable with their ability to do an Administrative Site &
Architecture review at staff level based on the very specific details in the letters of intent, and the
addendums.
Vice -chairperson Van Gelder said it should be made perfectly clear that anything beyond the scope
of the letters of intent and addendums must be taken to the Planning Commission for approval.
8:01 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING OPENED,
Matthew Addington
CM Engineering
225 E. Airport Drive
San Bernardino, CA
He said he is the civil engineer on this project. He stated the applicant is requesting the
Planning Commission's decision to do a formal review of the new playground at Azure Hills
Elementary School to be reconsidered. He assured the Planning Commission there was
never an intention of the church to deceive the Planning Commission regarding any of the
details of the playground project. He explained what he termed a series of well-intentioned
errors. The conceptual drawing presented to the Planning Commissioners was not approved
through the official school and church channels. Applicant has budgetary concerns regarding
the playground area. He said they are close to going over budget and cannot afford elaborate
equipment and plans. The main concern is to get grass planted so they will have a play area
when school opens in the Fall, 1997. If the review is done at staff level the playground will
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be ready at least one month earlier than a Planning Commission review. He also wanted the
Planning Commission to delete the preliminary staff condition of approval requiring
playground and perimeter trees.
Director Materassi said the Planning Commission may not discuss changes in the conditions of
approval at this meeting.
Jack Booker
11785 Mt. Vernon Ave.
Grand Terrace, CA
He said he was at the meeting to speak in favor of applicant's request as stated in the letter
dated May 5, 1997. He said the school needs use of the playground as soon as possible.
The children need to have a play area, as right now there is none.
Arthur Blinci
12825 Vivienda Ave.
Grand Terrace, CA
He stated the land purchase alone is nearly $300,000. The church is investing in the City
to develop a Christian school for all members of the community. He asked the Planning
Commission support the recommendation of the Community Development Department so
the playground can be constructed in as timely a manner as possible.
Debbie Stottlemyer
22568 Cardinal
Grand Terrace, CA
She said she wished to add her support and express appreciation for the opportunity to have
the Planning Commission reconsider their decision of April 17, 1997. She said the project
needs to move forward quickly as the children are currently playing on cement. It is
primarily for the safety of the children that she wants the project to move forward in a timely
manner.
8:13 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED.
MOTION
PCM-97-35
Commissioner Trainor made a motion to set aside its previous determination of April 17,
1997 and allow the Azure Hills playground relocation to be reviewed through an
Administrative Site & Architecture review process.
Motion seconded by Commissioner Huss.
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MOTION
VOTE
PCM-97-35
Motion carried. 3-1-2-0. Commissioner Wilson voted "no". Chairman Sims and
Commissioner Ellis absent.
8:15 P.M. VICE -CHAIRPERSON VAN GELDER RECONVENED THE PLANNING
COMMISSION 1 1
ITEM#4
BRSP-96-01-A2/E-96-13
AN APPLICATION TO AMEND THE BARTON ROAD SPECIFIC PLAN TO ALLOW DRIVE-
THRU ESTABLISHMENTS WITHIN THE VILLAGE CORE AREA, AND AMEND APPROVED
NEGATIVE DECLARATION.
CITY OF GRAND TERRACE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT
Staff report was presented by Director Materassi. She said this amendment would also make the
drive-thrus which are currently permitted in the commercial area from the Village Core to the
freeway subject to CUP approval instead of only a Site & Architecture review. The Director said
there are actually two reviews involved in this report: a planning/zoning review and a
consideration of market forces or economic development. The staff recommendation has taken
into consideration both aspects. When Commissioner Ellis spoke with the Director before the
meeting he suggested he would like to see the Planning Commission consider the General Plan
Task Force recommendations of making the Village Core area more pedestrian oriented -more of
a Village Area. The Director observed that most successful villages have incorporated drive-thrus
using creative landscaping and block walls to de-emphasize the negative aspects of drive-thrus.
Within the Barton Road Specific Plan, Director Materassi said she believes the City has the power
to sufficiently condition development so that drive-thrus are not detrimental and inconsistent with
pedestrian traffic.
Commissioner Wilson asked Director if the City has received specific inquiries or applications,
and if any studies have been conducted to slow down traffic on Barton Road. Director said
several months ago there was an inquiry by McDonalds for the old GTI Market site, but there are
none pending currently. A landscape median was recommended to be installed on Barton Road
to slow down traffic. There was a concern that eliminating lanes would not only slow down
traffic but would also reduce the traffic counts, and generate traffic congestion, thus actually being
detrimental to business. Therefore, the General Plan Task Force is recommending only the
median.
Vice-chairman Van Gelder asked Commissioner Trainor for an update of activity of the Business
Development Committee. Commissioner Trainor said the committee has met many times since
formation in the fall of 1996. The committee is a collaborative effort of the Chamber of
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Commerce, the City and the community. She explained the focus of the committee is primarily
to assist with the occupancy of vacant storefronts in the City. A sub -committee has met with the
leasing agent for the GTI Market property. There have been several inquiries from potential
tenants such as Burger King and a market. She said there have been offers to purchase the
property however the owners have a very high expectation as to what they feel the property will
bring at sale. The same agent represents the owners of the Stater Brothers Center and there is
currently dialogue regarding those vacancies as well.
Vice -chairperson Van Gelder said she feels it is important to differentiate between the Village
Core Area and the Village Activity Node, which is the corner of Mt. Vernon and Barton Road.
8:40 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING OPENED
Bob Henry
22614 Miriam Way
Grand Terrace, CA
He said he attended the first hearing on this issue last fall. He reminded the Planning
Commission of the noise and trash problem he experienced when the GTI Market was at
the northeast corner of Mt. Vernon and Barton Rd. He said he did not understand how
the pedestrian thrust of the General Plan will be compatible with a drive-thru at that
location. He suggested the City should tear down the present building and put in a park.
He said the drive-thrus should be put down by the freeway. He said it is not a good idea
to put drive-thrus in the Village Core where they would get no freeway traffic, but would
depend strictly on community support to survive.
Don Mangus
12070 Arliss Dr.
Grand Terrace, CA
He said he lives directly behind the GTI Market site. He would like to continue looking
at his view of Blue Mountain instead of the eyesore of neon signs. He said he has a 12'
easement from the market property by which he enters his property to tow his boat and
trailer out. He urged the Planning Commission to consider not allowing a fast food
establishment at that location. He was unhappy the City had not notified him of the
hearing by mail. He learned of the hearing by the legal publication in the City News.
Director Materassi said the General Plan Task Force has recommended a future study of the two
properties adjacent to the market property to determine if re -zoning is feasible. The market
property alone may be too small for development, but combined with the two adjacent properties
development may be feasible. She said those 4 corners are the most important comers for the
economy of Grand Terrace. She urged the property owners to be active in the process with the
Community Development Department.
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Commissioner Addington asked if citizens would have the opportunity to voice concerns about
a specific project when one is proposed for the market site. Director Materassi said the Planning
Commission would to CUP and Site & Architecture reviews on any future project for the market
location. A Negative Declaration statement is noticed in the newspaper with a 21 day response
period for public comment. Commissioner Addington asked if it would be possible to give
residents within 1000' radius of the hearing for a proposed specific project for the market site.
Director answered in the affirmative.
Vice -chairperson Van Gelder stated "Some small towns in California are passing ordinances
whereby there will be no fast food drive-thrus because it takes away from the small town
atmosphere and causes major traffic congestion. It is clear on page 3 of the staff report that the
purpose of this exercise is to allow fast food drive-thrus at Mt. Vernon and Barton Rd. We know
they are already allowed in the General Commercial District. Drive-thrus of fast foods will not
promote more activity for other businesses. People will pick up their food and be on their way.
They would not pick up their food and then go to the barber shop or the flower shop or Staters.
It mentions in there that the drive-thrus would buy their supplies and materials from local
business. I don't believe that's true because in the case of McDonald's they contract with very
large corporations for their supplies and they are trucked to the individual facilities in each area.
I can't see that that's really a good plus. We have always, forever promoted pedestrian traffic.
Drive-thrus do not promote pedestrian traffic, but they do promote vehicular traffic. Much of the
? traffic on Barton Road is to and from Loma Linda. How many of this population would really
stop in Grand Terrace for a hamburger given their dietary preferences? In Attachment C, which
is Virgil Barham's report from the Building Department, he talks about a requirement of a traffic
study to determine the impact on public streets due to right and left turning movements into and
out of the drive-thrus. When we've talked about doing something with the GTI Market it always
boils down to ingress and egress and the issue of the requirement of driveways being at least 100'
from intersections. I don't see how you can talk about putting a drive-thru there without
answering some of those questions first. In fact, on page 5 of the staff report, you have
recommended more analysis and data be obtained for us. Drive-thrus in my opinion do not
encourage or promote upscale clientele. It would diminish the quality of life in this bedroom
community that Grand Terrace has come to enjoy. I don't know how many of the Commissioners
have mentioned to their friends about this possibility. I have mentioned it to my many friends and
they roll their eyes back and can't believe that we're serious about this. The General Plan goal
for community development and commercial use is `Maintenance and continued development of
the Grand Terrace established commercial areas and encouragement of new commercial
development.' This does not say encouragement of drive-thru fast foods. There are many other
types of businesses that could and should be pursued other than fast food drive-thrus in the Village
Activity Node - Master Plan Area 4. I know that everyone is very weary of looking at the former
GTI Building. It certainly is an eyesore, however, Mt. Vernon and Barton Rd. is the main
intersection in Grand Terrace and it is also the busiest. Hopefully it can be developed into an area
that is attractive and something that residents can be proud of. Grand Terrace is worthy of more
( than a fast food drive-thru at that location. If Grand Terrace must have a fast food drive-thru let
it not be at the comer of Mt. Vernon and Barton Road. I encourage the Commission to
recommend to the City Council that an ordinance be passed to disallow drive-thru fast food
restaurants in the Village Activity Node - Master Plan Area 4."
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Commissioner Huss asked if staff is considering re -zoning the GTI Market block area. Director
Materassi said that is part of the General Plan recommendations so eventually staff will bring such
a proposed zoning amendment to the Planning Commission with the research and findings.
Commissioner Trainor responded to comments from the audience. She said the "suggestion of
a park at Mt. Vernon and Barton Road had been investigated. The $600,000 needed to purchase
the property is the obstacle, and it would be a non -revenue -generating site. Even people who are
interested in the site for a revenue -generating business aren't willing to come up with $600,000.
She said she believes the proposed recommendation creates options for commercial development
in Grand Terrace which are critically important for the future of Grand Terrace as a community.
She said it preserves the rights and power that the City needs to control the conditions and assure
the needs and wishes of those people who live in the immediate area around the property. She
said the comer of Mt. Vernon and Barton Road has been undeveloped for at least 10 years and
it is commercially detrimental to the other commerce of the City because it sits on one of the four
critical comers of the City and as such it is a beacon of failure. It does not attract people to want
to come into other parts of the City. The subject proposal today is not focussed on the comer of
Mt. Vernon and Barton Road. That is a location which lends itself to being considered but it
creates the opportunity on a conditional use basis to consider a specific project. Very rigorous
requirements would be made of anyone who proposed to develop a drive-thru at that comer and
at any other location on Barton Road. " She concluded by saying she is very much in favor of a
recommendation of support to the City Council.
Commissioner Addington said he has lived in the community for 15 years. He has seen many
vacant properties including GTI Market and those between Mt. Vernon and the freeway on Barton
Road. He said he supports the recommendation of staff to help expedite the process of filling such
vacant storefronts. Whatever can be done to expedite the planning process will help attract more
business to the City, whether it be a drive-thru or some other type of establishment. He expressed
support of staff's recommendation to expedite the approval process.
Vice -chairperson Van Gelder agreed with the above comments of Commissioners Trainor and
Addington except she could not agree to location in the Village Activity Node - Master Plan 4.
MOTION
PCM-97-36
Motion made by Vice -chairperson Van Gelder that the Planning Commission recommend
to the City Council that an ordinance be passed to disallow drive-thru fast food restaurants
in the Village Activity Node - Master Plan Area 4, and that they be allowed in the balance
of the Village Core Area.
Motion failed for lack of a second.
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MOTION
PCM-97-37
Commissioner Addington made a motion to approve the 4th Barton Road Specific Plan
Amendment based upon the findings contained in the staff report.
Seconded by Commissioner Trainor.
MOTION
VOTE
PCM-97-37
Motion carried. 4-1-2-0. Vice -chairperson Van Gelder voted "no". Chairman Sims and
Commissioner Ellis absent.
9:05 P.M. ADJOURNED PLANNING COMMISSION/SITE AND ARCHITECTURE
REVIEW BOARD MEETING
9:05 P.M. CONVENED THE PLANNING COMMISSION WORKSHOP
• Information from Commissioners
- Commissioner Wilson asked Director Materassi when the Commission might see
the plans to reduce the speed of vehicular traffic and increase pedestrian traffic on
Barton Road consistent with the Task Force recommendations. Director stated it
would be 9 months at a minimum as the General Plan Task Force recommendations
must be approved by City Council and then the elements will be drafted.
- Commissioner Huss announced she will be unable to attend the June 5, 1997
Planning Commission Meeting.
• Information to Commissioners
- Director Materassi asked if any of the Planning Commissioners would be interested
in riding in the Grand Terrace Days Parade on June 7, 1997. Commissioners
Addington and Trainor answered "yes" .
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES
MAY 15,1997
9:10 P.M. ADJOURNED PLANNING COMMISSION WORKSHOP
Respectfully submitted, Approved by,
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Fran Van Gelder
Vice -Chairperson, Planning Commission