06/06/1988GRAND TERRACE PLANNING COMMISSION
MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING
JUNE 6, 1988
The regular meeting of the Grand Terrace Planning Commission was
called to order at the Grand Terrace Civic Center, 22795 Barton
Road, Grand Terrace, California on June 6, 1988, at 7:00 p.m. by
Chairman Norman Caouette.
PRESENT: Norman Caouette, Chairman
Fran Van Gelder, Vice -Chairwoman
Stanley Hargrave, Commissioner
Jerry Hawkinson, Commissioner
Ray Munson, Commissioner
Jim Sims, Commissioner
ABSENT:
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE:
Ivan Hopkins, City Attorney
David Sawyer, Planning Director
Jeri Ram, Associate Planner
Maria Muett, Planning Secretary
Gerald Cole, Commissioner
Joe Kicak, City Engineer
PLANNING COMMISSION WORKSHOP CONVENED AT 6:30 P.M.
Comments from staff
Comments from Planning Commissioners
PLANNING COMMISSION WORKSHOP ADJOURNED AT 7:00 P.M.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING CONVENED AT 7:00 P.M.
ITEMS•
1. Planning Commission Minutes - December 21, 1987/January
18, 1988/February 16, 1988/March 21, 1988/April 4,
1988/April 18, 1988/May 2, 1988/May 18, 1988.
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MOTION
PCM-88-41
Chairman Caouette made the motion to approve the minutes
as submitted with the exception of December 21, 1987, and
February 16, 1988 and spelling correction noted of Boyle
Engineering on the May 2, 1988 minutes. Commissioner
Jerry Hawkinson second.
MOTION VOTE
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MOTION
PCM-88-42
Motion carried, all ayes. 6-0-0-1. Commissioner Cole
absent.
Chairman Caouette made the motion to approve the minutes
of December 21, 1987. Commissioner Munson second.
MOTION VOTE
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MOTION
PCM-88-43
Motion carried, all ayes. 6-0-1-1. Commissioner
Hargrave abstained and Commissioner Cole absent.
Chairman Caouette made the motion to approve the minutes
of February 16, 1988. Commissioner Van Gelder second.
MOTION VOTE
PCM-88-43
Motion carried, all ayes. 4-0-2-1. Commissioners Munson
and Hawkinson abstained and Commissioner Cole absent.
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ITEM #2
DU-88-1 (M-2 ZONE)
GOLDEN ALUMINUM RECYCLE (REPLACEMENT OF RECYCLING EQUIPMENT)
21516 MAIN STREET
G.T.
The Planning Director presented the staff report with the
recommendations and conditions of approval submitted by
the reviewing agencies and staff.
Chairman Caouette pointed out that this was not a public
hearing item but recognized the presence of the applicant
for discussion purposes.
The Planning Director explained the function of the
Planning Commission in regards to the Determination of
Use in the M-2 zone. Further he explained that a
Conditional Use Permit would be required to apply the
determined revisions specifically on this site.
Commissioner Sims asked if this was a normal process or
was a precedence being set and asked if there was an
exemption of an EIR on this type of facility.
The City Attorney explained that as long as it was
existing there was no requirement. However, on the CUP
there would be a requirement such as a CEQA analysis.
Commissioner Van Gelder asked how the current recycling
process differed from the new proposed system.
Chairman Caouette asked the applicant to address the
Planning Commission.
TERRY RIFFLE
OPERATIONS MANAGER
GOLDEN ALUMINUM
2600 S. XANADU WAY
AURORA, COLORADO
JIM CLACK
PROJECT ENGINEER
SAME ADDRESS
Mr. Riffle presented a brief overview of what they
intended to do with their project. He outlined their
recycling process and explained that it will be a total
enclosed system. They are an integral part of
California's AB2020; Container Redemption Act, effective
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MOTION
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1987. They are certified by the State of California as
an aluminum processing plant.
Commissioner Munson asked the applicant what the
truckload traffic flow would be in the City.
Mr. Riffle answered that there would be 8-10 truckloads
incoming a day, and outgoing about 2 a day. He explained
that most of the traffic would use the Center/Highgrove
exit to get to their facility. He stated that they did
not anticipate an increase of traffic flow with their new
system.
Commissioner Hargrave asked about the dust level caused
by the recycling system.
Mr. Riffle stated that the dust is maintained in the
confines of the processing center.
Commissioner Hargrave asked if there would be any
additional sales tax from their business.
The City Attorney stated that there would not be any.
Mr. Riffle outlined their utilities usage with the old
system in comparison with the new system.
Chairman Caouette asked if there would be an expansion
or improvements on the existing buildings.
Mr. Riffle stated that they would dispose of the existing
shredding operation and buildings. The new system would
have a roof to shelter the workers and equipment.
The Planning Director explained that the site plan and
elevations would be addressed in the Conditional Use
Permit process.
Commissioner Munson made the motion to make the
determination that the aluminum recycling operation is
a use permitted with a Conditional Use Permit in a M-2
Zone. Vice -Chairwoman Van Gelder second the motion.
MOTION VOTE
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Motion carried, all ayes.
absent.
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6-0-0-1. Commissioner Cole
PUBLIC HEARING CONVENED AT 7:25 P.M.
Chairman Caouette opened the public hearing.
ITEM #3
CUP-88-8 (AP ZONE)
JOAN JOHNSON (THE CHOCOLATE FACTORY)
22400 BARTON ROAD, SUITE 7
G.T.
The Planning Director presented the staff report with
conditions and recommendations of approval from staff,
the reviewing agencies and the City Engineer.
Chairman Caouette asked if the Site and Architectural
could be done at the same time as the Conditional Use
Permit.
The Planning Director stated that it could be done
together but recommended two separate motions.
Vice -Chairwoman Van Gelder referred to Condition #2,
parking reserved for the applicant's business, and if
those spaces would be painted.
The Planning Director mentioned that some type of
identification or marking would be needed.
Vice -Chairwoman Van Gelder asked why it would be done for
this facility and not for other shops.
The Planning Director explained that since it was a
restaurant that it required more parking and he felt it
was important to identify those spaces.
Discussion continued on the reasoning for marking the
restaurant's parking spaces and restricting the other
allocated spaces for the other tenants.
The City Attorney clarified that it was not unusual to
have specially marked spaces in shopping centers. He
explained that the enforcement would be the
responsibility of the shopping center.
Discussion on the landscaping in the atrium area of the
project.
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Vice -Chairwoman Van Gelder asked if Chez Ole could
possibly bring up the feasibility of having specialized
parking spaces.
The Planning Director explained that would be between
Chez Ole and the landlord.
Vice -Chairwoman Van Gelder asked how much space there
would be between the atrium and the next building.
It was determined that there would be 17 feet.
Commissioner Hargrave asked if the trash facility already
existed.
The Planning Director explained that it was already in
existence and was surrounded by a wall. He stated that
the Commission could add a condition to have a cover on
the top of the trash facility.
PUBLIC HEARING CONVENED AT 7:42 P.M.
JOAN JOHNSON
31306 CIRCLEVIEW DRIVE
RUNNING SPRINGS
Ms. Johnson explained to the Commission that her hours
of business were flexible, 10:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m. She
referred to the trash facility and explained that the
trash containers did have tops to them.
Commissioner Hargrave asked if the Planning Director
would be comfortable with the trash bins not technically
meeting all of the municipal codes, in regards to
covering over the actual enclosure area. He further
stated that he would be comfortable with the trash
containers having tops as presented by the applicant.
In regards to the parking issue, Ms. Johnson suggested
dividing some of the parking to the front and rear of the
business. She stated that the landlord was in favor of
her suggestion, if it needs to be painted.
Ms. Johnson explained that all of the food items would
be pre -packaged and there would not be any cooking on the
facility. The business would have a beer and wine
license.
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Commissioner Hargrave asked how many employees she would
have.
Ms. Johnson stated there would probably be three.
Commissioner Munson asked if there would be a rear
entrance for the public parked behind the facility.
Ms. Johnson stated that there is a door from the atrium
area to the garage area of the townhouses.
Commissioner Hargrave referred to the plans showing a
door out of the storage area.
Ms. Johnson stated there was an existing door already in
the storage area. However on the new plans it showed a
rear exit from the atrium area.
Discussion on the feasibility of entrance and parking in
the rear of the building.
The Planning Director explained that the plans indicated
that the major entrance will be from the front parking
lot and the back entrance will be an emergency exit. If
the Commission feels it needs to be changed then they
should do so now.
Commissioner Hargrave asked what the Fire Marshall
required in regards to the rear exit.
The Planning Director stated that the Fire Warden's
Office did not make any specific comments on that in
their review.
Ms. Johnson explained that she had already checked with
their office and they stated only an emergency exit was
necessary.
Discussion on having an additional rear door for public
use.
Chairman Caouette asked if the change would require a
larger door.
The Planning Director explained that he did not know what
would be required.
Ms. Johnson explained that she believed the rear
emergency door could be left in a open position with a
locking device.
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Explanation of the purpose of existing blockwall and
addition of plexiglass structure.
Commissioner Munson asked about the parking area to the
rear and the usage by the Terrace Pines occupants.
Ms. Johnson explained that there was a public access area
to the rear and it would all be repaved with the final
construction of the Terrace Pines project.
Commissioner Hargrave explained that the access would be
from the rear parking behind her suite to the private
road but the residents of the Terrace Pines project could
not enter from the north or else it would cause tire
damage.
Discussion on Terrace Pines project and shared parking
conditions at the Towne and Country Center discussed in
earlier sessions.
The Planning Director stated that in preparation for this
application, staff did not go back and read the minutes
of the Terrace Pines project. He did feel there was
enough parking, in various areas of the parking lot, for
the uses of this project.
Chairman Caouette clarified that the question was not
where the parking spaces would be but that they would be
called out specifically for that.
The Planning Director agreed and that the specific
location of the parking spaces was to be decided upon on
staff level.
PUBLIC HEARING ADJOURNED AT 8:00 P.M.
Discussion continued on designated parking spaces in this
project and future projects.
Commissioner Sims asked if there were any specifics in
the Code as to how many spaces each restaurant type would
utilize.
The Planning Director explained that the Code gives the
Planning Director some flexibility in the requirements
but he would not be able to take something out of the
Conditional Use Permit and reduce the number once it was
approved.
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MOTION
PCM-88-45
Commissioner Hargrave made the motion to approve CUP-88-
8 without Condition #2 (designating specific parking
spaces) but approving the remaining conditions.
Commissioner Hawkinson second.
MOTION VOTE
PCM-88-45
Motion carried, all ayes. 6-0-0-1. Commissioner Gerald
Cole was absent.
SITE AND ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD CONVENED AT 8:00 P.M.
MOTION
PCM-88-46
Commissioner Hargrave made the motion to approve SA-88-
7 per staff s recommendations. Commissioner Sims second.
MOTION VOTE
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Motion carried, all ayes. 6-0-0-1. Commissioner Gerald
Cole was absent.
Chairman Caouette explained that items #4 and #5 had
requested continuance.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING ADJOURNED.
SITE AND ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD RECONVENED.
ITEM #7
SA-88-6
PATRICIA HEACOCK
22081 GRAND TERRACE RD.
880 SQ. FT. GARAGE (R-2 ZONE)
Presentation of staff report by Assistant Planner, Jeri
Ram.
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Chairman Caouette opened the hearing for discussion.
Discussion on specific definition of storage shed and the
intended use by the applicant.
Discussion on the maintenance and type of paint used on
the storage shed, due to the materials being on the
ground for sometime.
The Planning Director explained that the color of paint
would be a lighter canary yellow intended to match the
paint that was already on an existing building.
PUBLIC HEARING CONVENED
PATRICIA HEACOCK
22081 GRAND TERRACE RD.
G.T.
MOTION
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The applicant explained that the reason the building was
blue because that was the color it came in but would be
willing to change the color. She explained that the
building would be properly treated and painted to cover
the rust. The storage shed would be placed on a concrete
slab. The only utility hookup would be for electricity.
Continued discussion on proper definition of a storage
shed instead of garage.
Discussion on the feasible use later of the storage shed
as a garage would the applicant be required to put in a
driveway and would the applicant have to come back under
a Site and Architectural Review.
The City Attorney explained that it would not be easy to
enforce and did not have to come back for a Site and
Architectural Review.
Chairman Caouette pointed out that due to the 800 sq. ft.
it would not be practical as a garage.
Mrs. Heacock clarif ied that it would not be used as a
garage.
Commissioner Hargrave moved for approval of SA-88-7 with
the stipulations as specified by the Planning Director
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and the City Engineer. Vice -Chairwoman Van Gelder
second.
MOTION VOTE
PCM-88-47
Motion carried, all ayes. 6-0-0-1. Commissioner Cole
was absent.
Chairman Caouette stated that the last item on the
agenda, SA-88-4/Feeney and Clark, was continued.
Special proclamation of appreciation by Commissioner
Jerry Hawkinson for Chairman Caouette and Commissioner
Cole's years of public service in serving on the Planning
Commission.
Chairman Caouette expressed his positive feelings and
respect to the staff and Planning Commission members.
SITE AND ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD ADJOURNED AT 8:20 P.M.
Approved By:
Respectfully Submitted,
David R. awyer,
Community Development Director
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tanley H rgrave, hairman
Planning Commissi n
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