06/07/1982 GRAND TERRACE PLANNING COMMISSION
MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING
JUNE 7 , 1982
The Grand Terrace Planning Commission regular meeting of June 7 , 1982
was called to order at 7 : 03 P .M . in the Terrace View Elementary School
Multi - Purpose Room , 22731 Grand Terrace Road , Grand Terrace , California
by Chairman Douglas E . Erway .
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE : Led by Commissioner Collins
ROLL CALL : Commissioners Present : Andress , Collins , Erway ,
McDowell and Smith
Commissioners Absent : Bartel , Cole and DeBenedet
Others Present : Ivan Hopkins , City Attorney
Virginia Farmer , Director
Planning Department
Gloria J . Flood , Planning Secretary
MINUTES : The minutes of the regular meeting of May 3 , 1982 approved
with corrections to page 3 of 5 as follows :
" PCM 82-28 MOTION by Commissioner DeBenedet , seconded by
Commissioner Bartel and passed by an 8-0 VOTE TO REQUIRE
ROOFS TO BE ALL CONCRETE TILE . " Should read , " PCM 82-28
MOTION by Commissioner DeBenedet , seconded by Commissioner
Bartel and passed by a 7- 1 VOTE TO REQUIRE ROOFS TO BE
ALL CONCRETE TILE . Commissioner Smith voting no . "
PCM 82-33 MOTION by Commissioner Andress , seconded by Commissioner
McDowell and passed by a 5-0 VOTE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES
OF MAY 3 , 1982 WITH CORRECTIONS .
NEW BUSINESS :
ITEM #1 REQUEST FOR EXTENSION - TPM 6856
11950 La Crosse Road , Grand
Terrace , California
Virginia Farmer , Planning Director , presented the staff report . The
Engineer for this project requested an 18 month extension to allow
more time to prepare final map .
Speaking :
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Bill Darwin , Grand Terrace , stated he owns property adjacent to
this project and asked about off street parking .
COMMISSION DISCUSSION :
Commissioner Collins stated project is a Parcel Map and no parking
is designated at this time . Mrs . Farmer stated that parking re-
quirements are imposed at time of development .
PCM 82-34 MOTION by Commissioner Andress , seconded by Commissioner
Smith and passed by a 5-0 VOTE TO APPROVE EXTENSION OF
EXPIRATION DATE ON TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 6856 TO DECEMBER
8 , 1983 .
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ITEM #2 SITE PLAN AND ARCHITECTURAL PUBLIC HEARING
REVIEW NO . SA 82- 7
R . N . & RUBY AMOS
Southeast corner of DeBerry
Street and Michigan Avenue .
Virginia Farmer , Planning Director , presented the staff report . This
project is a Site Plan and Architectural Review for a single family
dwelling unit . The unit will be 1300 square feet , roof is composition
shingle and proposed colors are earth tone .
Notice having been given as required by law , the public hearing was
opened .
The public hearing was closed as no one wished to speak either in
favor or in opposition to this application .
COMMISSION DISCUSSION :
PCM 82-35 MOTION by Commissioner Smith , seconded by Commissioner
Collins and passed by a 5-0 VOTE TO ADOPT THE NEGATIVE
DECLARATION AND BASED ON THE MATERIAL IN THE STAFF
PRESENTATION AND REPORT , MOVED TO APPROVE SITE AND
ARCHITECTURAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN SA 82-7 , INCLUDING THE
FINDINGS AS WRITTEN IN THE STAFF REPORT AND SUBJECT TO
THE SPECIAL CONDITIONS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF .
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ITEM #3 GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT 82- 1-A PUBLIC HEARING
Northwest corner of Michigan
at Van Buren .
Virginia Farmer , Planning Director , presented the staff report . The
City ' s Planning Department application is to bring zone map and general
plan map into consistency . The zone map shows commercial and the
general plan map shows residential for this area . The General Plan
Amendment request is for General Commercial .
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COMMISSION DISCUSSION :
PCM 82-36 MOTION by Commissioner McDowell , seconded by Commissioner
Andress , and passed by a 4-1 VOTE TO ADOPT THE NEGATIVE
DECLARATION AND BASED ON THE MATERIAL IN THE STAFF REPORT
AND PRESENTATION , MOVED TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO . PC 82-01
AMENDING THE LAND USE MAP TO REFLECT CONSISTENCY WITH
THE CURRENT ZONING AND USE OF SUBJECT LAND . Commissioner
Collins voted in opposition to the motion .
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ITEM #5 CONSIDERATION OF A CARD CLUB , INFORMAL PUBLIC
DINING FACILITY IN C-2 ZONE . HEARING
Chairman Erway stated the purpose of the presentation and the Planning
Commission ' s responsibility is to make a recommendation to the City
Council on whether or not to allow a card club and whether the uses
proposed are compatible with the existing land uses in this community .
Chairman Erway invited the applicant to speak .
Frank Woolsey , Huntington Beach , applicant , stated he wished the
Commission ' s consideration of a card club in Grand Terrace . Mr .
Woolsey introduced his attorney, Clint Hubbard with Rhoades , Kenlin ,
Harrington in Newport Beach and his associate partner , Mr . Sam
Ohanian .
The type of operation that was suggested is one that Mr . Woolsey
maintained would enhance the community and not degrade it . He
suggested a combined poker club , restaurant facility , and cocktail
lounge , in addition to a large room that could be monitored by the
City for the use of any type of City authorized service club .
The games to be offered are draw poker and panguingue . The idea
of the club is that patrons can come in and rent a space and play
a game of poker against each other . It is considered a game of
skill . No alcohol will be allowed on the floor while people are
gambling .
Also proposed is a coffee shop and delicatessan on the premises to
serve the public .
The developers would be open to any suggestions on architectural
design from the Planning Commission .
Commissioner Collins asked if there is a specific place in Grand
Terrace that is being considered . Mr . Woolsey stated they have checked
with the City and C- 2 is the zone being requested . They would like a
6- 10 acre parcel , near the freeway .
Chairman Erway asked the identity of financial backing for this
operation . Mr . Woolsey stated he is backing the project .
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Chairman Erway asked who will operate the club . Mr . Woolsey stated
that several different people employed with major clubs are
interested in operating the card club .
Chairman Erway asked what asset would the community realize . Mr .
Woolsey stated depending on the study , he would estimate the area
could stand a 40-60 table operation . The primary benefit to the
community would be employment .
Chairman Erway asked about the financial impact and asset to the
City . Mr . Woolsey stated based on current operations in other
cities the City could realize 3-5 hundred thousand dollars a year
from the club in fees and licenses .
Commissioner Andress stated that a very lovely picture of waterfalls
and nice architect and good clean fun was painted and then in another
breath it was stated a security force would be needed . Why? Mr .
Woolsey stated that card clubs don ' t need more security forces than
a local shopping mall . The security is specifically designed to
protect people ' s automobiles .
The following members of the audience address the Planning Commission :
Ian Smith , 11914 Mt . Vernon , stated as a property owner he is opposed
to this type of activity in Grand Terrace .
Ethel Reithler , 12600 Mt . Vernon , stated as a resident of Grand Terrace
she is opposed to gambling activities in this area .
Jerry Folsom , 22593 Eton Drive , Pastor of the 1st Baptist Church ,
stated he believes this community is family oriented and does not
feel the benefits brought to this community outweigh the negative
aspects a card club would bring .
Robert Wunner , Grand Terrace Road , stated this activity is not for
the community and is opposed to it . Revenue gained is not worth the
problems gambling would creat .
Pauline Wunner , Grand Terrace Road , stated she is opposed to this type
of activity in Grand Terrace .
Ernie Zampese , 22799 Barton Road , stated he believes this would cause
a security problem and is opposed to the card club .
Rollin Moore , 23033 Merle Court , stated he believes Grand Terrace is a
bedroom community and a card club will bring in traffic and traffic
of the sort to use a card club would change the community .
As no one else wished to speak either in favor or in opposition to
the card club , the informal hearing was closed .
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Mr . Woolsey stated he does not suggest changing the community . The
card club would be near the freeway . The traffic and people would
not be driving through the community . He stated he is asking the
Planning Commission to consider the benefits and not to judge card
clubs strictly on a moral issue or religious one .
COMMISSION DISCUSSION :
PCM 82- 37 MOTION by Commissioner Collins , seconded by Commissioner
Smith , and passed by a 4- 1 VOTE TO ADVISE THE CITY COUNCIL
THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION DOES NOT RECOMMEND CHANGING
THE ZONE ORDINANCE TO ALLOW CARD CLUBS . HOWEVER , IF THE
CITY COUNCIL WISHES TO ALLOW THIS ACTIVITY , THE PLANNING
COMMISSION RECOMMENDS THE USE IN THE C-2 ZONE .
Commissioner Andress voted in opposition , for the reason
that he opposed the following portion of the motion :
"However , if the City Council wishes to allow this activity ,
the Planning Commission recommends the use in the C-2
Zone . "
There being no further business , the meeting was adjourned at 8 : 22
P .M . to an Adjourned Regular Meeting on Monday , June 21 , 1982 at
7 : 00 P .M . at Terrace View Elementary School , 22731 Grand Terrace
Road , Grand Terrace , California .
Respectfully submitted by ,
Virgi iH a Farmer
Planning Director
APPROVED :
DOUGLAS E AY , CHAIRMAN
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